Utah highway fallen officer crosses deemed unconstitutional

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Col. Flagg
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Utah highway fallen officer crosses deemed unconstitutional

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ution.html
Utah highway patrol crosses violate US Constitution
Fourteen crosses erected along roads in memory of fallen highway patrol officers in Utah have been declared in violation of the US Constitution.

The crosses were found to be in breach of the First Amendment, which enshrines the separation of church and state, and the ruling could have implications for roadside memorials all over the United States.

Fellow officers began erecting the 12-foot high, white crosses along state highways in Utah in 1998. They were paid for with privately raised money but most stand on publicly owned land.

Each one carries a picture of a deceased trooper along with their rank and badge number, and the insignia of the state highway patrol which is a beehive.

In a 38-page ruling, which followed a five-year legal wrangle, the US Court of Appeals said passing drivers would conclude the state was endorsing Christianity, and that Christians could expect preferential treatment from the Utah Highway Patrol.

The case was brought by American Atheists, a Texas-based group, and in response the state of Utah had argued that crosses were a non-religious, and universally understood, symbol of death.

It said 11 of the 14 deceased troopers were Mormons, and that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not use the cross as a religious symbol.

However, in its ruling the Court of Appeals said: “Unlike Christmas, which has been widely embraced as a secular holiday, there is no evidence in this case that the cross has been widely embraced by non-Christians as a secular symbol of death.” The state of Utah may appeal to the US Supreme Court.
Slowly but surely, the Lord is being removed from the country. :(

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Will someone please show me where in the constitution is states separation of church and state? Oh wait it dosen't........... :roll:

For so great had been the spreading of this wicked and secret society that it had corrupted the hearts of all the people

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Wow, am I the only one that thinks this is grasping at straws?

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JulesGP wrote:What about all of those crosses in graveyards across the country for the fallen soldiers? Will they be removing all of those next? It's so wrong.
Great point.....talk about some changes at the cemetery!

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Col. Flagg wrote:Slowly but surely, the Lord is being removed from the country. :(
Hey, you've said something reasonable for a change.

1. The Constitution does not indicate a "separation of Church and State" like the article indicates.

2. What the Constitution actually does state is that there is to be no state promotion or inhibition of religion.
The very act of trying to get Crosses removed, 10 Commandments removed etc. from the Public sphere is "itself" actually unconstitutional.

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Did Joseph Smith and Brigham Young teach that we are to respect authority and follow the law if the laws are immoral and unconstitutional? I think not!

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This is one where I would be willing to wrap myself around one and sit there like a hippie in a tree just to annoy the people trying to remove them. I think they should sell or lease little plots of the land around the memorials so that it's privately owned. The money could go to support the families of the fallen officers.

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You don't need a court to resolve this. Simply send the atheists a can of gas an a pack of matches. Invite them to invite you to show up camera in hand to document the removal of the crosses with fire. Then post the videos on youtube. I'm sure it will get their group lots of sympathy. :wink:

Then send these idiots to Arlington, I hear there are a lot of white crosses there, and all on government land. Heaven forbid.

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ithink wrote:You don't need a court to resolve this. Simply send the atheists a can of gas an a pack of matches. Invite them to invite you to show up camera in hand to document the removal of the crosses with fire. Then post the videos on youtube. I'm sure it will get their group lots of sympathy. :wink:

Then send these idiots to Arlington, I hear there are a lot of white crosses there, and all on government land. Heaven forbid.

Couple places just outside of Rolla, Missouri, where a couple groups of Vietnam vets have carved out a niche for themselves.....tend to shoot first and ask questions later when it comes to visitors....suggest we send them some visitors to remove any roadside crosses they have down there!

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