Will Ron Paul Run For President in 2012????

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Ron Paul is planning to run against Obama in 2012, this is a tip from an insider known as "The Collins," a hard core activist with connections to the Pauls.

The Collins is definitely trying to cause a ruckus, but this tip was confirmed over the weekend at the Florida Liberty Summit in Orlando.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=257221

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Ron Paul WILL BE running in 2012!

(barring any unforeseen circumstances)

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[sbsion]

nope.....being cancelled due to a lack of..........

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nope.....being cancelled due to a lack of..........

nice one

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It's only a Rumor ......... Update:

Saw this on Lew Rockwell:

Is Ron Paul Running for President?
I am getting lots of emails asking me, to which I always reply, “I do not know.” When I mentioned this to Ron, he wrote:

And the truth is, I don’t know either. I have said publicly several times that it has not been ruled out. Certainly the decision will not occur in 2010. Assessing the degree of support will be a very major factor in making the decision. And note: there was no announcement in Orlando.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/a ... 63845.html

Ron Paul on Alex Jones 8/18/10 Addresses Rumors of a 2012 Run

Alex welcomes back Congressman Ron Paul to the show to discuss the latest on Iran, legislation in the house, and more. Dr. Paul is a member of the U.S. House of Representatives. During the 1960s, he served as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force. Ron Paul also addresses rumors about a 2012 run for President.

[Col. Flagg]

I would say it is unlikely. The mainstream media, in cahoots with the establishment, made a pretty good mockery out of Ron when he ran the first time and successfully portrayed him as a kook with the politically illiterate (which is about 70-75% of the country). Considering Ron's age and the exhaustive efforts the first time around, I doubt he'd go for round 2, but stranger things have happened. I'd still vote for him, but to be honest, with the current power and money structure in control of Washington, there is no way in heck Ron would stand a chance of the presidency. Even if a miracle occurred and he was in the running and eventually elected, the money-masters would have him eliminated before he could do anything about the 'Fed' and extreme corruption rotting our nation's capital... sadly, that is reality.

At this point, I'm not sure simply voting out incumbents or voting for good, Constitutional candidates would restore this nation to its founding roots... Washington is controlled by a powerful clique of financiers, corporations and special interest groups who have no plans to relinquish their stranglehold over our nation and it mattereth not who is elected or thrown out of office, unfortunately. You could throw out every politician in DC and replace them with good men like Ron Paul, but the powers that be who run things in the shadows would ultimately win out (like the 'Fed', big banks, military-industrial complex, big pharma, big oil, etc.). This is the juncture we are at in 2010 with regard to our federal government and why it is probably going to take blood to restore our country to the way the Founding Fathers created it.

[2BFree]

If there still IS a country...

[Col. Flagg]

If there still IS a country...

Good point.

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When I heard the rumor he was going to run, I was a little surprised, but more excited then anything. He would have my vote if he chooses to run.

I understand where this country is spiritually and so I never actually thought he had or will ever have any kind of real chance at being elected as President. It really was never about having him be elected for me. To me it was an opportunity to use him as an example of what the idea constitutionally minded candidate should look like and teach my friends and family about constitutional government.

Any hardships the media and money masters put him through in my view will be another witness against them and this country. The Lord’s judgments will be just and his wrath will fall upon all of the wicked. The people are not rejecting Ron Paul but constitutional government when they choose a candidate that talks very little about the constitution and focuses on an agenda that is out side the its scope.

I have yet to see any candidate I have voted for be elected. Most people tell me I waste my vote, but I know better. I would feel responsible for this mess if I jump off the cliff with the rest of the lemmings.

I do not believe in political saviors. I believe in voting for good people like Ron Paul. As far as any real constitutional government actually being in place that is always worth a fight but achieving it will not happen until the Savior comes again. At least this is how I feel in my heart. These days are for testing and developing Christ like attributes and the evil that surrounds us now is perfect for this. So carried on in righteous living and teaching God’s love and laws to your neighbors and family and bring souls to Christ.

[Toto]

If there still IS a country...

It seems like just another piece of real estate in foreclosure now. Anybody here done a title search?

But have no fear… Due to an increase in the blind population, there is an abundance of brooms for sweeping up after the awful situation.

I wonder if the foreclosing agents can produce a contract. Probably not… Word on the street is it was used it for bum floss and flushed down the Al Qaeda on January 20th of 2009. A final judgment by the Supreme Court is still pending.

[Toto]

He would have my vote if he chooses to run.

Question is, will there even be another presidential election in 2012? (or anyone left to vote in it?)

[John Locke]

I would say it is unlikely. The mainstream media, in cahoots with the establishment, made a pretty good mockery out of Ron when he ran the first time and successfully portrayed him as a kook with the politically illiterate (which is about 70-75% of the country). Considering Ron's age and the exhaustive efforts the first time around, I doubt he'd go for round 2, but stranger things have happened. I'd still vote for him, but to be honest, with the current power and money structure in control of Washington, there is no way in heck Ron would stand a chance of the presidency. Even if a miracle occurred and he was in the running and eventually elected, the money-masters would have him eliminated before he could do anything about the 'Fed' and extreme corruption rotting our nation's capital... sadly, that is reality.

At this point, I'm not sure simply voting out incumbents or voting for good, Constitutional candidates would restore this nation to its founding roots... Washington is controlled by a powerful clique of financiers, corporations and special interest groups who have no plans to relinquish their stranglehold over our nation and it mattereth not who is elected or thrown out of office, unfortunately. You could throw out every politician in DC and replace them with good men like Ron Paul, but the powers that be who run things in the shadows would ultimately win out (like the 'Fed', big banks, military-industrial complex, big pharma, big oil, etc.). This is the juncture we are at in 2010 with regard to our federal government and why it is probably going to take blood to restore our country to the way the Founding Fathers created it.

John Locke does not admit defeat, John Locke has faith that the silent majority has not yet began to fight!

[NoGreaterLove]

In answer to the original question. No.

Would I vote for him? Still undetermined.

[Toto]

John Locke does not admit defeat, John Locke has faith that the silent majority has not yet began to fight!

Toto agrees with John Locke. Otherwise Toto would not be participating in these discussions. Humanity IS waking from its slumber and the awakening IS accelerating. It is my understanding that what is planned by the adversary is not set in stone. We still posses the agency and the power to create what it is we would prefer to experience.

The mainstream media, in cahoots with the establishment, made a pretty good mockery out of Ron when he ran the first time and successfully portrayed him as a kook with the politically illiterate (which is about 70-75% of the country).

I see it from another perspective. I think the People made a good mockery out of the mainstream media and the establishment! Why throw in the towel while we have the momentum? If your figure of 70-75% is accurate, that means that 25-30 % of the people have caught on to their little horse and pony show. As I recall, Ezra Taft Benson said we only need 3%.

[Jason]

I would say it is unlikely. The mainstream media, in cahoots with the establishment, made a pretty good mockery out of Ron when he ran the first time and successfully portrayed him as a kook with the politically illiterate (which is about 70-75% of the country). Considering Ron's age and the exhaustive efforts the first time around, I doubt he'd go for round 2, but stranger things have happened. I'd still vote for him, but to be honest, with the current power and money structure in control of Washington, there is no way in heck Ron would stand a chance of the presidency. Even if a miracle occurred and he was in the running and eventually elected, the money-masters would have him eliminated before he could do anything about the 'Fed' and extreme corruption rotting our nation's capital... sadly, that is reality.

At this point, I'm not sure simply voting out incumbents or voting for good, Constitutional candidates would restore this nation to its founding roots... Washington is controlled by a powerful clique of financiers, corporations and special interest groups who have no plans to relinquish their stranglehold over our nation and it mattereth not who is elected or thrown out of office, unfortunately. You could throw out every politician in DC and replace them with good men like Ron Paul, but the powers that be who run things in the shadows would ultimately win out (like the 'Fed', big banks, military-industrial complex, big pharma, big oil, etc.). This is the juncture we are at in 2010 with regard to our federal government and why it is probably going to take blood to restore our country to the way the Founding Fathers created it.

John Locke does not admit defeat, John Locke has faith that the silent majority has not yet began to fight!

The great question is.....What will they be fighting for?

....liberty? food & water? power? money? religion? gangs? militias? property? servants and slaves?

the USA is dead to me! my allegiance is to my Father and the government His Son will establish!

[lundbaek]

I would welcome a Ron Paul presidential candidacy primarily because it could and should serve as a further awakening to LDSs of their divinely mandated responsibility to support a candidate who stand for constitutional principles in government.

Having said that, I believe Ron Paul hasn’t a prayers chance in a barroom of being elected. In 2008 he got about 8% of the Republican primary vote, or about 1.5% of the American vote. Until this country is cleansed of the huge element of proponents and supporters of socialism and fascism (including the NWO lot), and until an substantial “remnant” is awakened and organized to work for constitutional principles in the tradition of the American Founding Fathers, the best we can hope to accomplish, IMO, is preparation of the “remnant”

[Jason]

I would welcome a Ron Paul presidential candidacy primarily because it could and should serve as a further awakening to LDSs of their divinely mandated responsibility to support a candidate who stand for constitutional principles in government.

Having said that, I believe Ron Paul hasn’t a prayers chance in a barroom of being elected. In 2008 he got about 8% of the Republican primary vote, or about 1.5% of the American vote. Until this country is cleansed of the huge element of proponents and supporters of socialism and fascism (including the NWO lot), and until an substantial “remnant” is awakened and organized to work for constitutional principles in the tradition of the American Founding Fathers, the best we can hope to accomplish, IMO, is preparation of the “remnant”

Isn't it actually a restoration? The only string left in 1976 was the franchise to vote.....whole lot of blackbox voting since then....although technically we still have "the right" to vote which is defined as franchise....despite whether the vote actually counts or not.

And as you point out.....also an obligation to vote for the best man (in principles that is aligned with our principles).

[leeuniverse]

I hope Ron Paul doesn't run again. I would rather have his son Rand than him.

However, as a first cause I can't support either one as a candidate but would rather have Romney and Allen West on the ticket. Reason being is because I simply cannot support someone who doesn't have the moral clarity to understand the evils of our time that wish to destroy all that America stands for, and willing to take the fight directly to them. This is not "pre-emptive", it's respond in kind but with a superior force. Our force being superior doesn't somehow mean it's not fair and right, and just because they aren't actually on your door step currently doesn't mean it's not right either. First, they have been several times, and several attempts, and second, in this modern age of technology, it doesn't take much for one of them to get through and do serious damage. Thus, better to try and stop their infrastructure over there, rather than just "waiting" for them to destroy lives over there, amass their power to then come here, especially when they already have been, as well as various attacks overseas.

Anyway, if such a person does end up being the Republican candidate, I will support them. Cause he's much much better than the liberal one. But, as a first choice, I find such to be against God's Moral Code.

[lundbaek]

What makes anyone think that Ron Paul doesn't have the moral clarity to understand the evils of our time that wish to destroy all that America stands for, and willing to take the fight directly to them? I know of no other prospective presidential candidate who has acknowledged his awareness of a conspiracy to create a one-world dictatorship.

Speaking in the House of Representatives 29 April 2003, Congressman Paul stated, as reported on his thelibertycommittee.org web page: “...Perhaps it’s time to stop trying to manipulate the UN, and start asserting our national sovereignty. If we do not, rest assured that the UN will continue to interfere not only in our nation’s foreign policy matters, but in our domestic policies as well. UN globalists are not satisfied by meddling only in international disputes. They increasingly want to influence our domestic environmental, trade, labor, tax, and gun laws. UN global planners fully intend to expand the organization into a true world government, complete with taxes, courts, and possibly a standing army. This is not an alarmist statement; these goals are readily promoted on the UN’s own website. UN planners do not care about national sovereignty; in fact they are openly opposed to it. They correctly view it as an obstacle to their plans. They simply aren’t interested in our Constitution and republican form of government.”

Speaking to an audience of like-minded libertarians at a Campaign for Liberty regional conference in Atlanta the weekend of January 16-17 2010, Congressman Paul said: “There's been a coup, have you heard? It's the CIA coup. The CIA runs everything, they run the military. They're the ones who are over there lobbing missiles and bombs on countries. ... And of course the CIA is every bit as secretive as the Federal Reserve. ... And yet think of the harm they have done since they were established [after] World War II. They are a government unto themselves. They're in businesses, in drug businesses, they take out dictators ... We need to take out the CIA.” ( http://rawstory.com/2010/01/ron-paul-cia/ )

Mitt Romney should be leading the charge for restoration of constitutional principles in government and to awareness of our "awful sithation" and its causes. But instead, he demonstrates to me and I'm sure others a lack of the moral clarity to understand the evils of our time that wish to destroy all that America stands for, and no interest in taking the fight directly to them.

[sbsion]

thanks lundbeak

[Toto]

Ron Paul and the Constitutional principles upon which his presidential campaign were based were, by far, the best opportunity offered to the People of the United States at the time. He was reawakening the economic, political, social, and moral traditions that gave the LDS church the greatest opportunity to build His Church and spread the Gospel to the World. It was his message that was responsible for the rapid rise and strength of his campaign, and the message resonated with many people of different political and religious persuasions. Judging by his actions as a public servant, Ron Paul was an ideal messenger.

In the republican national debate however, Mitt Romney testified of his ignorance of the law those of the LDS Faith are admonished to befriend, which law he is required, contractually, to uphold and defend by oath or affirmation as a representative of the People as President, not the advice of the "scribes and Pharisees" of the day he indicated he would consult in a decision to take the country to war. If Romney understood what the Constitution actually said, the only proper response would put the issue before Congress where it properly belongs.

Leeuniverse, from the mostly unintelligible words you penned above, your reasoning almost seems to suggest that the only individual qualified to hold the office of President of the United States of America would be the President of the LDS Church himself, being the only individual qualified to receive direct revelation from God! That would, in my opinion, violate the principle of free agency which, as I understand, is all important to the plan of eternal salvation, and which the vast majority of LDS seem to be running away from as fast as the Constitution. I could never vote for Mitt Romney with a clear conscious. Of course, had I never read the Constitution, I wouldn’t have known the difference either. Unlike the vast majority, I am not looking for an external authority. I don’t want to be enslaved, to be told how and when to go about it all, or wait to be commanded in all things. That is not the will of God, nor is it mine.

But to answer the original question, will Ron Paul run in 2012, I think Ron has made it perfectly clear the will of the People will be the determining factor. With the support of the People, I believe Ron would make another run.

That being said, I would also add that I will not be voting for Ron Paul, nor will I be voting at all in any elections run by false elections officials in false elections using false money that benefits only those whose intent in the destruction of the agency of man and the plan of eternal salvation. Any vote in the political process of the day is a vote for eternal damnation in my humble opinion. But if the People were to awake to the awful situation and organize valid/lawful elections, according to that law which is constitutional, I would be obliged to participate, by casting my write in ballot of course. And in the current situation, in my humble opinion Ron Paul still offers the best opportunity for the People of the United States of America.

[Mosby]

I hope Ron Paul doesn't run again. I would rather have his son Rand than him.

However, as a first cause I can't support either one as a candidate but would rather have Romney and Allen West on the ticket. Reason being is because I simply cannot support someone who doesn't have the moral clarity to understand the evils of our time that wish to destroy all that America stands for, and willing to take the fight directly to them. This is not "pre-emptive", it's respond in kind but with a superior force. Our force being superior doesn't somehow mean it's not fair and right, and just because they aren't actually on your door step currently doesn't mean it's not right either. First, they have been several times, and several attempts, and second, in this modern age of technology, it doesn't take much for one of them to get through and do serious damage. Thus, better to try and stop their infrastructure over there, rather than just "waiting" for them to destroy lives over there, amass their power to then come here, especially when they already have been, as well as various attacks overseas

Come on you guys, admit it leeuniverse is right, I mean we need a leader with the "moral clarity" to attack third-world nations around the world and "bring the fight to them"- kill them before they kill us- I mean isn't that what Jesus taught?

Who does this Ron Paul think he is talking about peace and "non-interventionalism" bah- that's for sissys! I mean killing all those terrorists is working out so good for us - Paul doesn't know anything, doesn't he realize that we a CHRISTIAN nation and therefore it's our right and duty to kill our enemies?

[sbsion]

maybe his run for the president won't be in 2012, but in 2010 on an Independent ticket to replace Obaman?

[Toto]

Come on you guys, admit it leeuniverse is right, I mean we need a leader with the "moral clarity" to attack third-world nations around the world and "bring the fight to them"- kill them before they kill us- I mean isn't that what Jesus taught?

Who does this Ron Paul think he is talking about peace and "non-interventionalism" bah- that's for sissys! I mean killing all those terrorists is working out so good for us - Paul doesn't know anything, doesn't he realize that we a CHRISTIAN nation and therefore it's our right and duty to kill our enemies?

Thanks for clearing that up for me Mosby, I wasn’t clear what leeuniverse was saying. And here I thought we were supposed to pray for our enemies.

Silly me!

I will delete him from my prayer list promptly, along with Mitt Romney.