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Hard to believe -- but OTOH, expected...


http://www.eutimes.net/2010/05/new-o...000-americans/

Posted by EU Times on May 31st, 2010 // 77 Comments

Foreign Ministry reports circulating in the Kremlin today are warning that an already explosive situation in the United States is about to get a whole lot worse as a new law put forth by President Obama is said capable of seeing up to 500,000 American citizens jailed for the crime of opposing their government.

Sparking the concern of Russian diplomats over the growing totalitarian bent of the Obama government is the planned reintroduction of what these reports call one of the most draconian laws ever introduced in a free society that is titled “The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act”.

First introduced in the US Congress in 2007 by Democratic Representative Jane Harmon, this new law passed the US House of Representatives by a secretive voice vote, but failed to pass the US Senate, after which it was believed dead until this past week when it was embraced by Obama who became the first American President to name his own citizens as a threat to his Nations security.

In what is called the National Security Strategy document, that is required of US Presidents by their Congress, that embraces the dictatorial ideals of the “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act”, Obama has ordered his Federal police and intelligence forces to begin targeting Americans opposed to him and his radical socialist polices.

Obama’s top counter-terrorism advisor, John Brennan, in speaking to reporters about this new “strategy” says it makes the problem of home-grown terrorists a top priority because an increasing number of individuals in the US have become “captivated by extremist ideology or causes.”

The Times of London is further reporting that Obama’s new National Security Strategy “officially” ends America’s “War on Terror” in what they call “a sweeping repudiation of the Bush doctrine of pre-emptive military strikes.”

And as Obama begins re-focusing his forces from fighting America’s foreign enemies, to those opposed to him in his own country, it is important to remember the warning about this new law given by the former CIA official, Philip Giraldi, who had previously warned of the Bush-Cheney plan to attack Iran with nuclear weapons, and who said:
“The mainstream media has made no effort to inform the public of the impending Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act. The Act, which was sponsored by Congresswoman Jane Harman of California, was passed in the House by an overwhelming 405 to 6 vote on October 24th and is now awaiting approval by the Senate Homeland Security Committee, which is headed by Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut.

Harman’s bill contends that the United States will soon have to deal with home grown terrorists and that something must be done to anticipate and neutralize the problem. The act deals with the issue through the creation of a congressional commission that will be empowered to hold hearings, conduct investigations, and designate various groups as “homegrown terrorists.”

The commission will be tasked to propose new legislation that will enable the government to take punitive action against both the groups and the individuals who are affiliated with them. Like Joe McCarthy and HUAC in the past, the commission will travel around the United States and hold hearings to find the terrorists and root them out.
Unlike inquiries in the past where the activity was carried out collectively, the act establishing the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Commission will empower all the members on the commission to arrange hearings, obtain testimony, and even to administer oaths to witnesses, meaning that multiple hearings could be running simultaneously in various parts of the country.

The ten commission members will be selected for their “expertise,” though most will be appointed by Congress itself and will reflect the usual political interests. They will be paid for their duties at the senior executive pay scale level and will have staffs and consultants to assist them.

Harman’s bill does not spell out terrorist behavior and leaves it up to the Commission itself to identify what is terrorism and what isn’t.
Language inserted in the act does partially define “homegrown terrorism” as “planning” or “threatening” to use force to promote a political objective, meaning that just thinking about doing something could be enough to merit the terrorist label.
The act also describes “violent radicalization” as the promotion of an “extremist belief system” without attempting to define “extremist.”


As an example of those American’s Obama will be targeting, Giraldi further writes that The Simon Wiesenthal Center, in testifying before the US Congress in support of this new law, swore that an organization called “Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth” was an example of a homegrown terrorist organization, leading one Russian diplomat in this report to state “If 1,200 of America’s top architectural and engineering professionals are deemed terrorists simply because they question their governments propaganda than truly no one is safe in the United States anymore”.

As another example of how dictatorial the Obama regime has become, and as the Gulf of Mexico oil debacle has now become the worst ecological disaster our World has ever seen, the White House press secretary, Robert Gibbs, this past week slammed American reporters for “asking too many questions about BP”. Leading one to ask that if Obama’s regime can’t be asked about this disaster, what can they be asked about?

The answer is apparently none, as Obama himself, just this past week, in announcing his signing of a new law called the Press Freedom Act refused to answer any reporters questions and abruptly left them standing in stupefaction over the irony an ordeal that shows how far America has fallen.

Another irony apparently lost upon the American people is that their President Obama, who has been dubbed “The Great Communicator”, now holds the dubious distinction of having held less press conferences than any American President in modern history. And if yesterday’s press conference, his first in nearly a year, was any example one can see why as incredulous press corps was left astounded that Obama had no knowledge of the firing/resignation of one of his top officials.

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PS -- I am a member of AE911Truth... telling the truth is evidently a "revolutionary act"...

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Brings to mind this quote "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure." im afraid if they begin making these sorts of arrests this could spark off the national civil war that is talked about on here.

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Unreal. George W. Bush's administration ushered in Nazi Germany policies and legislation pretty quick during their reign of political, financial and economic terror and now Obama is putting the finishing touches on it all with lightning speed. :x The evil and deceit eminating from Washington is staggering.

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Obama is doing all of this at amazing speed, this is so dis-heartening, all I can do is realize God is in charge. America has failed, and that saddens me!

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They are idiots. The blowback on this is going to be huge. The legislation is likely to cause people to BECOME terrorists who never would have otherwise. Then, they will claim that this proves how necessary the legislation was!

Idiots or agents provocateur?

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That link does not work - Did Obama flip the kill switch on the internet?

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Try this link, seems to work:

http://www.eutimes.net/2010/05/new-obam ... americans/

"New Obama Law Warned Will Jail 500,000 Americans"

Someone called this article to my attention, now I notice the date is May 31st, 2010...
Can anyone find an update on this law?

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I am saddened and yet excited that we will be seeing this restoration of liberty in our society within our lifetimes. The minute they attempt to put this into force, they will regret it.

This article is one of the scariest things I've read in a long time. Thanks Doc.

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This concerns me quite a bit, but so do so many different things today.

I was watching Glenn Beck yesterday and he was ripping on B.O., as usual, and they showed a clip of B.O. saying, in '06 I believe, that "the sermon on the mount was radical" (something close to that). If he is not the anti-Christ, or an anti-Christ, then he is not far from it.

It's easy to see how in the current environment, it would not take much for the church and its members to start being persecuted.

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That article smacks of propaganda. Any article that quotes "Russian diplomat"s and ends with:

"In all of these events one fact, beyond all others, stands out….in what was once called “The Land of the Free, And the Home of the Brave”…..the United States today has become “The Land Of Slave, And the Home of the Coward”….and these Americans have only themselves to blame."

is suspect in my book.

In addition, they call it a "New Obama Law" and then say that it is a resurrection of the Harmon bill from 2007. I have seen quite a few articles this past year all over the internet quoting Russian sources declaring the end of the world for Americans, so to speak. I am very suspicious.

Just my 2 cents...

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Could the Mormon teaching that the Constitition would hang by a thread be considered extreme? How aobut any Millenial Christian belief in God's Kingdom replacing the kingdoms of the world? Now yer' talking aobut many more than 500,000.

After years of carefully molding the publics perceptions about religious zealots, the PTB could marginalize the believers, and I doubt believers would find many friends even in thier own congregations.

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I would not pay too much attention to this. It is not a European news site. It is based in the US and run by a bunch of Jew hating racists, and provocateurs.

Pointing people to this site destroys our own credibility, and any ability to awaken people in the future.

Show me some proof, and I am sure a non racist/provocateur website will cover the story in a responsible manner.

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Mahonri wrote:I would not pay too much attention to this. It is not a European news site. It is based in the US and run by a bunch of Jew hating racists, and provocateurs.

Pointing people to this site destroys our own credibility, and any ability to awaken people in the future.

Show me some proof, and I am sure a non racist/provocateur website will cover the story in a responsible manner.
I'm not familiar with the website. Why do you characterize it as being run by a bunch of Jew-hating racists and provocateurs? And how do you know they are from US? Just curious.

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all the info is on the website.

Just take a look

http://www.eutimes.net/category/crimes/holocaust/

http://www.eutimes.net/category/crimes/interracial/

a section called "european pride". Pride is evil and it procedeth the fall.

http://www.eutimes.net/category/culture ... m-culture/

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Where do I go to join Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth!

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nvr wrote:Where do I go to join Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth!
Go to AE911Truth.org -- thanks...

There are other sources talking about this bill; perhaps my friend chose a bad source. But the bill exists and I hope it does not pass. Further discussion, for example, here at DailyPaul (Ron Paul site)

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/138162

And another -- do these suit you better , Mahonri?

http://themancommon.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... n-act.html

The above is quite interesting, appears before the EUTimes article -- and states (excerpts):
In a startling affront to American freedoms of expression, privacy, and association, the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act (H.R. 1955) passed the House on October 23, 2007, by a vote of 404–6. The Senate is currently considering a companion bill, S. 1959. The act would establish a national commission and a university-based “Center for Excellence” to study and propose legislation to prevent the threat of “radicalization” of Americans.

Author of the bill Jane Harman (D-CA) explains, “We’re studying the phenomenon of people with radical beliefs who turn into people who would use violence.”

The act states, “While the United States must continue its vigilant efforts to combat international terrorism, it must also strengthen efforts to combat the threat posed by homegrown terrorists based and operating within the United States. Understanding the motivational factors that lead to violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence is a vital step toward eradicating these threats in the United States.”

The act’s purpose goes beyond academic inquiry, however. In a press release Harman stated, “The National Commission will propose to both Congress and [Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael] Chertoff initiatives to intercede before radicalized individuals turn violent.”

The act states, “Preventing the potential rise of self radicalized, unaffiliated terrorists domestically cannot be easily accomplished solely through traditional Federal intelligence or law enforcement efforts, and can benefit from the incorporation of State and local efforts.”

Harman, who chairs the House Subcommittee on Intelligence, Information Sharing, and Terrorism Risk Assessment, also has close ties to the RAND Corporation [1], a right-wing think tank, which appears to have influenced the bill. Two weeks prior to the introduction of H.R. 1955 on April 19, 2007, Brian Michael Jenkins of RAND delivered testimony on “Jihadist Radicalization and Recruitment” to Harman’s subcommittee.

In June, Jenkins was back before Harman’s subcommittee discussing the role of the National Commission. “Homegrown terrorism is the principal threat that we face as a country and it will likely be the principal threat that we face for decades. . . . Unless a way of intervening in the radicalization process can be found, we are condemned to stepping on cockroaches one at a time,” he stated. In a 2005 RAND report titled “Trends in Terrorism,” one chapter is devoted entirely to a non-Muslim “homegrown terrorist” threat—the threat of anti-globalists.

In an effort to prevent people from becoming “prone to” radicalization, this preemptive measure of policing thought specifically identifies the Internet as a tool of radicalization: “The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens,” says Harman.

The legislation authorizes a ten-member National Commission (the Senate bill calls for twelve members) appointed by the President, the Secretary of Homeland Security, congressional leaders, and the chairpersons of both the Senate and House committees on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. ... [there is more]
I'm quite sure "anti-globalists" includes those opposed to the NWO.

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The efforts of groups like AE911TRUTH are obviously making headway. Considering that 'the best way to expose an tyrant is to make him act like one' I think these proposals end up spreading the truth more effectively. It motivated me to put my name on the petition list. I consider it an honor to be one of these least-favorite-peoples lists.

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nvr wrote:The efforts of groups like AE911TRUTH are obviously making headway. Considering that 'the best way to expose an tyrant is to make him act like one' I think these proposals end up spreading the truth more effectively. It motivated me to put my name on the petition list. I consider it an honor to be one of these least-favorite-peoples lists.
Thank you for your courage, nvr.
The growth of AE911Truth.org is phenomenal, and world-wide. The latest:
1254 architectural and engineering professionals
and 9026 other supporters including A&E students
have signed the petition demanding of Congress
a truly independent investigation.

The petition is open to everyone.
And those willing to challenge the official story of 9/11 continues to grow. We can be mocked, as warned by Pres. Packer in the Aug 2010 Ensign -- but not ignored.

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DrJones wrote:
nvr wrote:Where do I go to join Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth!
Go to AE911Truth.org -- thanks...

There are other sources talking about this bill; perhaps my friend chose a bad source. But the bill exists and I hope it does not pass. Further discussion, for example, here at DailyPaul (Ron Paul site)

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/138162

And another -- do these suit you better , Mahonri?

http://themancommon.blogspot.com/2010/0 ... n-act.html

The above is quite interesting, appears before the EUTimes article -- and states (excerpts):
In a startling affront to American freedoms of expression, privacy, and association, the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act (H.R. 1955) passed the House on October 23, 2007, by a vote of 404–6. The Senate is currently considering a companion bill, S. 1959. The act would establish a national commission and a university-based “Center for Excellence” to study and propose legislation to prevent the threat of “radicalization” of Americans.

Author of the bill Jane Harman (D-CA) explains, “We’re studying the phenomenon of people with radical beliefs who turn into people who would use violence.”

The act states, “While the United States must continue its vigilant efforts to combat international terrorism, it must also strengthen efforts to combat the threat posed by homegrown terrorists based and operating within the United States. Understanding the motivational factors that lead to violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence is a vital step toward eradicating these threats in the United States.”

The act’s purpose goes beyond academic inquiry, however. In a press release Harman stated, “The National Commission will propose to both Congress and [Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael] Chertoff initiatives to intercede before radicalized individuals turn violent.”

The act states, “Preventing the potential rise of self radicalized, unaffiliated terrorists domestically cannot be easily accomplished solely through traditional Federal intelligence or law enforcement efforts, and can benefit from the incorporation of State and local efforts.”

Harman, who chairs the House Subcommittee on Intelligence, Information Sharing, and Terrorism Risk Assessment, also has close ties to the RAND Corporation [1], a right-wing think tank, which appears to have influenced the bill. Two weeks prior to the introduction of H.R. 1955 on April 19, 2007, Brian Michael Jenkins of RAND delivered testimony on “Jihadist Radicalization and Recruitment” to Harman’s subcommittee.

In June, Jenkins was back before Harman’s subcommittee discussing the role of the National Commission. “Homegrown terrorism is the principal threat that we face as a country and it will likely be the principal threat that we face for decades. . . . Unless a way of intervening in the radicalization process can be found, we are condemned to stepping on cockroaches one at a time,” he stated. In a 2005 RAND report titled “Trends in Terrorism,” one chapter is devoted entirely to a non-Muslim “homegrown terrorist” threat—the threat of anti-globalists.

In an effort to prevent people from becoming “prone to” radicalization, this preemptive measure of policing thought specifically identifies the Internet as a tool of radicalization: “The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens,” says Harman.

The legislation authorizes a ten-member National Commission (the Senate bill calls for twelve members) appointed by the President, the Secretary of Homeland Security, congressional leaders, and the chairpersons of both the Senate and House committees on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. ... [there is more]
I'm quite sure "anti-globalists" includes those opposed to the NWO.

Yep! It's for real! :shock:

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I gladly signed.

Thanks, doc

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[quote="DrJones"]Hard to believe -- but OTOH, expected...


http://www.eutimes.net/2010/05/new-o...000-americans/

Posted by EU Times on May 31st, 2010 // 77 Comments


Clicking on the above link from a certain Central American country gives one this message where article should be on that blog site:
Error 404 - Not Found

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