Glenn Beck: 'America Will Not Be the Same in 10 Years'

[Jason]

No because that would get him carted off to the conspiracy garbage can of history. He'd have the same audience size as AJ. Unfortunately, when people hear CRF, Trilateral, and Bildeberg they think you're a nut. TPTB have done a great job at marginalizing anyone that exposes these groups. I know because that's what I used to think about them. They were conspiracy nuts. I still refrain from talking too much about them because it brands me as a nut. I stick with the Federal Reserve and big banking. Depends who I'm taking to, but I'm careful about how much I reveal because people automatically label you as a kook.

Is this the kind of label you were referring to???

[7cylon7]

it will not take 10 years. it will only have 3 years or less.... ending with WW3 and total control of us.

[pjbrownie]

No because that would get him carted off to the conspiracy garbage can of history. He'd have the same audience size as AJ. Unfortunately, when people hear CRF, Trilateral, and Bildeberg they think you're a nut. TPTB have done a great job at marginalizing anyone that exposes these groups. I know because that's what I used to think about them. They were conspiracy nuts. I still refrain from talking too much about them because it brands me as a nut. I stick with the Federal Reserve and big banking. Depends who I'm taking to, but I'm careful about how much I reveal because people automatically label you as a kook.

pj: I have to disagree with you on that. There is plenty of good evidence to present that shows how these groups are the power structures that are destroying America. And people usually respond positive to the evidence I give them. Besides it is getting so late for this country that we need to be awakening people to the "full" truth as quickly as possible. Especially now as things are getting bad that people are ready for the truth, and if some aren't....well that is their problem, but I am still responsible to enlighten them.

Well I just think we all have parts to play in all of this. Some people will understand Crime, Inc. but they won't understand Bildeberg. Glenn Beck has been teaching the Hegelian dialectic on his show--he's sneaky that way, that both parties are the same OZ behind the curtain. That's all some people need to know to fight TPTB, but I also feel that your mission maybe different. I wish you luck.

[leeuniverse]

My biggest request (are you reading this, Glenn ) would be if he would start aiming his laser at the GOP now and show how they have been progressives as well, and trying to destroy the country from the other side of the coin. I think it would really trip up his liberal-leftist bashers--which would be a good thing.

The problem with your comment is that it's simply not true.....

While it is true there are and have been some liberal and "slightly" liberal Republicans, the biggest threats has been the Dems/liberals. Dem's have primarily had control of either the Presidency or the House and Senate most of the time depending on the time period, thus it has been hard for the Republicans to get anything done. Of course, especially in the past many did get "comfortable" and weren't being as good of a watchmen as they could have been in relation to limited government and the constitution, just going with the flow thinking all is well, but most have still tried to stop the liberal machine for the last 100 years at least when it really started gaining strength.

It drives me nuts when I keep hearing Conservatives (even Beck) throwing out the line that both Dem's & Repub's have been doing the same and are the same. It is simply NOT TRUE! Take during the Bush years, both Bush and several other Republicans introduced bills trying to fix the Fanny/Freddie issues etc., yet the Dem's blocked it. There's even videos on it on Youtube of Barny Frank etc. saying there is nothing wrong with Fanny/Freddie, but almost none of the media reported it, save Fox some when the problems first started manifesting at the end of the Bush years.

Anyway, you all need to be supporting the Republicans, because 99% of them are still conservative, and especially these days are worked up. Of course, some new blood can be good too, but, we need conservatives in there bottom line.

[pjbrownie]

My biggest request (are you reading this, Glenn ) would be if he would start aiming his laser at the GOP now and show how they have been progressives as well, and trying to destroy the country from the other side of the coin. I think it would really trip up his liberal-leftist bashers--which would be a good thing.

The problem with your comment is that it's simply not true.....

While it is true there are and have been some liberal and "slightly" liberal Republicans, the biggest threats has been the Dems/liberals. Dem's have primarily had control of either the Presidency or the House and Senate most of the time depending on the time period, thus it has been hard for the Republicans to get anything done. Of course, especially in the past many did get "comfortable" and weren't being as good of a watchmen as they could have been in relation to limited government and the constitution, just going with the flow thinking all is well, but most have still tried to stop the liberal machine for the last 100 years at least when it really started gaining strength.

It drives me nuts when I keep hearing Conservatives (even Beck) throwing out the line that both Dem's & Repub's have been doing the same and are the same. It is simply NOT TRUE! Take during the Bush years, both Bush and several other Republicans introduced bills trying to fix the Fanny/Freddie issues etc., yet the Dem's blocked it. There's even videos on it on Youtube of Barny Frank etc. saying there is nothing wrong with Fanny/Freddie, but almost none of the media reported it, save Fox some when the problems first started manifesting at the end of the Bush years.

Anyway, you all need to be supporting the Republicans, because 99% of them are still conservative, and especially these days are worked up. Of course, some new blood can be good too, but, we need conservatives in there bottom line.

lee, Im sorry, but you're barking up the wrong tree if you expect people on this board to support the GOP. I'll support the GOP when they put up Constutional candidates--when they keep shilling for the "war on terror," but don't support the border fence, say they are for marriage, but don't stand up and fight for it, and pass bailouts like GWB did that support their friends on Wall Street, then there is a BIG problem with the GOP--they are the other side of the same coin. This was planned years ago and those of us who believe they are sincere when the give us their platform are dupes. The party aparatus always seems to fight the true conservative and install someone like McCain or Romney who supports the establishment way of thinking. Give me one prominent GOPer who feels like we should be getting out of these wars and securing the border at home instead, or should abolish or at least curtail the Federal Reserve, and is in favor of drastically downsizing the Federal Govt in favor of control by the States?

[Hyrcanus]

My biggest request (are you reading this, Glenn ) would be if he would start aiming his laser at the GOP now and show how they have been progressives as well, and trying to destroy the country from the other side of the coin. I think it would really trip up his liberal-leftist bashers--which would be a good thing.

The problem with your comment is that it's simply not true.....

While it is true there are and have been some liberal and "slightly" liberal Republicans, the biggest threats has been the Dems/liberals. Dem's have primarily had control of either the Presidency or the House and Senate most of the time depending on the time period, thus it has been hard for the Republicans to get anything done. Of course, especially in the past many did get "comfortable" and weren't being as good of a watchmen as they could have been in relation to limited government and the constitution, just going with the flow thinking all is well, but most have still tried to stop the liberal machine for the last 100 years at least when it really started gaining strength.

It drives me nuts when I keep hearing Conservatives (even Beck) throwing out the line that both Dem's & Repub's have been doing the same and are the same. It is simply NOT TRUE! Take during the Bush years, both Bush and several other Republicans introduced bills trying to fix the Fanny/Freddie issues etc., yet the Dem's blocked it. There's even videos on it on Youtube of Barny Frank etc. saying there is nothing wrong with Fanny/Freddie, but almost none of the media reported it, save Fox some when the problems first started manifesting at the end of the Bush years.

Anyway, you all need to be supporting the Republicans, because 99% of them are still conservative, and especially these days are worked up. Of course, some new blood can be good too, but, we need conservatives in there bottom line.

The Republicans really are just as bad as the Democrats. Bush was just as bad as Clinton was policy wise, he rushed the bailout through, failed to reform SS, failed to get anything done on the border, slipped the Patriot Act through, didn't even attempt to balance the budget, and continued to perpetuate this Mercantilist system we've got today.

99% of Republicans may call themselves conservatives, but how many of them voted for the bailout? We can break out the micrometer and see whether they're a tiny bit better then the democrats, but the real solution is to get the American public to wake up and stop voting for establishment candidates.

[durangout]

What would have happend had they not passed the bail out? Total system collapse or nothing different than we have now?

[Jason]

The problem with your comment is that it's simply not true.....

While it is true there are and have been some liberal and "slightly" liberal Republicans, the biggest threats has been the Dems/liberals. Dem's have primarily had control of either the Presidency or the House and Senate most of the time depending on the time period, thus it has been hard for the Republicans to get anything done. Of course, especially in the past many did get "comfortable" and weren't being as good of a watchmen as they could have been in relation to limited government and the constitution, just going with the flow thinking all is well, but most have still tried to stop the liberal machine for the last 100 years at least when it really started gaining strength.

It drives me nuts when I keep hearing Conservatives (even Beck) throwing out the line that both Dem's & Repub's have been doing the same and are the same. It is simply NOT TRUE! Take during the Bush years, both Bush and several other Republicans introduced bills trying to fix the Fanny/Freddie issues etc., yet the Dem's blocked it. There's even videos on it on Youtube of Barny Frank etc. saying there is nothing wrong with Fanny/Freddie, but almost none of the media reported it, save Fox some when the problems first started manifesting at the end of the Bush years.

Anyway, you all need to be supporting the Republicans, because 99% of them are still conservative, and especially these days are worked up. Of course, some new blood can be good too, but, we need conservatives in there bottom line.

The Republicans really are just as bad as the Democrats. Bush was just as bad as Clinton was policy wise, he rushed the bailout through, failed to reform SS, failed to get anything done on the border, slipped the Patriot Act through, didn't even attempt to balance the budget, and continued to perpetuate this Mercantilist system we've got today.

99% of Republicans may call themselves conservatives, but how many of them voted for the bailout? We can break out the micrometer and see whether they're a tiny bit better then the democrats, but the real solution is to get the American public to wake up and stop voting for establishment candidates.

Here's a little historical look behind the scenes that might be an eye opener for quite a few here -
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/timeline.html

[leeuniverse]

lee, Im sorry, but you're barking up the wrong tree if you expect people on this board to support the GOP. I'll support the GOP when they put up Constutional candidates--when they keep shilling for the "war on terror," but don't support the border fence, say they are for marriage, but don't stand up and fight for it, and pass bailouts like GWB did that support their friends on Wall Street, then there is a BIG problem with the GOP--they are the other side of the same coin. This was planned years ago and those of us who believe they are sincere when the give us their platform are dupes. The party aparatus always seems to fight the true conservative and install someone like McCain or Romney who supports the establishment way of thinking. Give me one prominent GOPer who feels like we should be getting out of these wars and securing the border at home instead, or should abolish or at least curtail the Federal Reserve, and is in favor of drastically downsizing the Federal Govt in favor of control by the States?

You don't know what you are talking about.... Yes, some Republicans have made mistakes, but everything you are talking about has been primarily done by the LIBERALS, and 99% of liberals are Democrats.

You are also wrong about the wars..... Fanatical Islam is taking over the earth, and it needs to be stopped, as a faithful mormon if you are one you should know this. Any person with real character and morality knows that it is a cancer that is now being confronted. Of course, because of liberals the best job isn't being done, just like they've messed up Vietnam and now Iraq just leaving them for example, but you just don't trash America for trying to give freedom to people who want it.

You are confusing the GOP with the Dems. You forget their is the presidency and then there is Congress. You attribute many things to the GOP when it's actually the Dem's that have been causing the problems. The GOP has been trying to fix things for years, from Taxes, to the border, to health care, to Fanny/Freddie, etc., but the Dem's STOPPED THEM.

So, you all stop blaming "both sides" as if they are the same THEY ARE NOT!!! Yes, sometimes we have a president that is "slightly" liberal such as Bush and McCain on a couple of issues, but they are 95% Conservative otherwise. Hey, that's what we have to deal with. Same with the GOP. 95% of the GOP is 95% Conservative or more. You all get a clue, stop "painting with a broad brush". Fine if you are doing so for the Dem's, because you would be accurate, but you ARE NOT being accurate (thus not being truthful) when you paint the GOP the same way.

Your views on Romney are also completely flawed. There is no going back to the "gold standard", get over it. The current standard is appropriate and works, economists know this, you clearly don't. Yes, some things need to be fixed, and managed properly, but you don't throw everything away. Romney is not against things like a flat/fair tax, Romney's not against basically all conservative and libertarian ideas. But, you falsely think he is because his enemy's misrepresent/LIE about him and some of his statements, taking them out of context. Do ANY of you deal with anti-mormonism and liberalism which lies all the time??? I deal with both, and you all are doing the same about the War, Bush, Romney, etc. STOP IT!

[leeuniverse]

The Republicans really are just as bad as the Democrats.

Not true.

Bush was just as bad as Clinton was policy wise,

Not true. Being 5% liberal like Clinton doesn't mean he was like Clinton.

he rushed the bailout through,

Yes, whether you want to believe it or not, the "initial" stimulous was helpful. It's the same thing as you see a starving purson on the street you give them food and water and then help them on their way. It is DEMS/Obama who has went overboard, thus actually harming the system. So, don't think Bush is the same. If you actually followed him and his Admin, you would know that they were well aware that they can't keep doing that, and must simply allow the market to work. Thus, you misrepresent him.

failed to reform SS,

Wrong again.... It was the Dem's who blocked all attempts on that issue, not him nor the GOP.

failed to get anything done on the border,

Not true, a lot was done on that, but he had bigger issues to deal with through his presidency, and again, Dem's kept blocking all attempts to change things, you simply don't hear about it.

slipped the Patriot Act through,

It is severaly limited in it's scope. Thus, you all complain about nothing but your fears.

didn't even attempt to balance the budget, and continued to perpetuate this Mercantilist system we've got today.

Actually, he increased revenues to the budget greatly. While yes, he didn't do everything to fix the world, he did a lot, and as much as he could do with a Dem Congress. You all think Presidents are dictators.... Well, they are when Dem's are in office too much of the time, but Conservatives don't act that way.

99% of Republicans may call themselves conservatives, but how many of them voted for the bailout? We can break out the micrometer and see whether they're a tiny bit better then the democrats, but the real solution is to get the American public to wake up and stop voting for establishment candidates.

Again, there was nothing wrong with the initial stimulation. They ARE conservatives, whether you want to realize it or not. They aren't just a "tiny bit better". They are a 100 times better. What you aren't realizing is the Dem effort to sabotage all GOP/Conservative efforts to fix things, but ignorantly you blame the GOP as if THEY are just as bad or the same, when if you actually knew what was going on, you would know that that is not even close to the truth.

Case in point, are you even aware that the GOP and Bush tried to prevent the current meltdown by fixing Fanny/Freddie etc., yet the Dem's such as Barney Frank blocked them? And do you know why the Dem's blocked them, because it was their cash cow to the poor, and they had powerful friends working and running those institutions, so they didn't want to upset the apple cart. The GOP was trying to do the right thing, the Dem's were all about their power first. So, stop blaming the GOP. We wouldn't be in the mess we are in had it not been for the Dem's. It has all been orchestrated.

[Jason]

The Republicans really are just as bad as the Democrats.

Not true.

Bush was just as bad as Clinton was policy wise,

Not true. Being 5% liberal like Clinton doesn't mean he was like Clinton.

he rushed the bailout through,

Yes, whether you want to believe it or not, the "initial" stimulous was helpful. It's the same thing as you see a starving purson on the street you give them food and water and then help them on their way. It is DEMS/Obama who has went overboard, thus actually harming the system. So, don't think Bush is the same. If you actually followed him and his Admin, you would know that they were well aware that they can't keep doing that, and must simply allow the market to work. Thus, you misrepresent him.

failed to reform SS,

Wrong again.... It was the Dem's who blocked all attempts on that issue, not him nor the GOP.

failed to get anything done on the border,

Not true, a lot was done on that, but he had bigger issues to deal with through his presidency, and again, Dem's kept blocking all attempts to change things, you simply don't hear about it.

slipped the Patriot Act through,

It is severaly limited in it's scope. Thus, you all complain about nothing but your fears.

didn't even attempt to balance the budget, and continued to perpetuate this Mercantilist system we've got today.

Actually, he increased revenues to the budget greatly. While yes, he didn't do everything to fix the world, he did a lot, and as much as he could do with a Dem Congress. You all think Presidents are dictators.... Well, they are when Dem's are in office too much of the time, but Conservatives don't act that way.

99% of Republicans may call themselves conservatives, but how many of them voted for the bailout? We can break out the micrometer and see whether they're a tiny bit better then the democrats, but the real solution is to get the American public to wake up and stop voting for establishment candidates.

Again, there was nothing wrong with the initial stimulation. They ARE conservatives, whether you want to realize it or not. They aren't just a "tiny bit better". They are a 100 times better. What you aren't realizing is the Dem effort to sabotage all GOP/Conservative efforts to fix things, but ignorantly you blame the GOP as if THEY are just as bad or the same, when if you actually knew what was going on, you would know that that is not even close to the truth.

Case in point, are you even aware that the GOP and Bush tried to prevent the current meltdown by fixing Fanny/Freddie etc., yet the Dem's such as Barney Frank blocked them? And do you know why the Dem's blocked them, because it was their cash cow to the poor, and they had powerful friends working and running those institutions, so they didn't want to upset the apple cart. The GOP was trying to do the right thing, the Dem's were all about their power first. So, stop blaming the GOP. We wouldn't be in the mess we are in had it not been for the Dem's. It has all been orchestrated.

leeuniverse.....you truly are ignorant of the realities of the world.



I suggest starting with research on CIA involvement in drug smuggling in Mena, Arkansas....fyi - Clinton was the money launderer for the operation. George Bush Sr is the drug kingpin behind the CIA. Those boys go way back!!!

Again (posted this earlier) here's a little more history on the Bush family (my relatives) though some things are left out like the family friends (John Hinckley assassination attempt on Reagan) -
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/timeline.html