Glenn Beck: 'America Will Not Be the Same in 10 Years'

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[Jason]

GB vid....

Too bad the dark side is part of the 100 year legacy he was talking about....interesting none the less! Thank you!

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You are welcome my friend!!

[Jason]

You are welcome my friend!!

I particularly enjoyed the comments in trying to create the vision of the future.....kept emphasizing smaller, tighter.....more community rather than country. It would be very interesting to sit down with him and ascertain the extent of his knowledge (does he hold back most of the time to keep his job and let a little light out......or is he truly moving forward with the basis portrayed)?????

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I judge Glenn’s positions case by case. I do think he is an honest seeker of the truth. He seems to live by BrianM’s sig line “All my opinions are tentative pending further data.”

I do not feel he intentionally tries to mislead anyone. People who are truth seekers are each on different levels of understanding. I understand there are some who think otherwise and that is fine. I think he is trying to live an honest life the best way he knows how. What more can you ask for.

[Original_Intent]

I like Glenn quite a bit too.

But rather than wait ten years I would say "America is not the same as it WAS ten years ago". We have definitely been on the path to our current dilemma for a long time - 100 years or more easily - but we are starting to have to deal with the bad consequences in spades only recently.

[Hyrcanus]

The only thing that irritates me about Beck is that he uses too much hyperbole to make his points sometimes. I realize he "needs" to do it to get ratings, since the emphasis and controversy is good for him, but it still bothers me intellectually since I know he is smart enough to realize what he is doing. He certainly isn't alone in that tendency among his peers, but part of me wishes he could find a way to flourish without it.

Overall, I think he has more points in the "good" column then he does in the "bad".

[Jason]

I judge Glenn’s positions case by case. I do think he is an honest seeker of the truth. He seems to live by BrianM’s sig line “All my opinions are tentative pending further data.”

I do not feel he intentionally tries to mislead anyone. People who are truth seekers are each on different levels of understanding. I understand there are some who think otherwise and that is fine. I think he is trying to live an honest life the best way he knows how. What more can you ask for.

I see the case for both sides.....and hope for the best yet stay prepared for the worst!

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I see the case for both sides.....and hope for the best yet stay prepared for the worst!

Me too.

[pjbrownie]

My biggest request (are you reading this, Glenn ) would be if he would start aiming his laser at the GOP now and show how they have been progressives as well, and trying to destroy the country from the other side of the coin. I think it would really trip up his liberal-leftist bashers--which would be a good thing.

[Glenn]

America is already not the same place it was two years ago.

Progressives are Globalists, and Globalists are Progressives. Both descriptions (Globalists/scope vs Progressives/philosophy) represent the same cancer. The two classifications have been used depending on the books and other source material one stumbled upon first. In the end they are the same.

The Progressives/Globalists now have a consensus in the corridors of government/power; critical mass has been reached. The days of viewing the country in terms of decades has passed. The speed of change will now be measured in months and years.

[durangout]

Yes; the US will be different: we will be in the throes of civil war.

Also, Beck knows / realizes more than he shares with his audience. Just like when I talk to different people about the same topic (i.e. temple, govt/politics, etc...) I speak to them on different levels. Not always discussing the same level of truth. That doens't mean I'm inaccurate or untruthful.

I do have my nits to pick about him however.

[fps.sledge]

I did like his "third" option he described. Which will essentially lead to that first option he described as being a third world country.

bigger gov't isn't really a bad idea in many ways. It's understandable for many to think this way. What they don't look at is the baggage that comes along with the bigger gov't. That's what most "libertarians" understand.

When you hire more people to work for the govt. You have more people serving public, and providing jobs? Maybe. Except that means less people in the private sector providing goods and services and more taxes to provide for those people in the govt. That's an example of the baggage.

The problem with characters like Glenn Beck, is that he needs to provide content for shows on a daily basis. He has to describe so many things in so many ways. Just like many political-commentators, they have to say something about politics otherwise they wouldn't have their job. He can't say the same thing over and over again even if its true. One thing also is that he gives "opinion" a little too much. I have recently enjoyed episodes of "Stossel" on FBN. It's much more informative. He very tactfully and carefully lays out information as to why we should be libertarian. He always gives the opposing view a chance to speak their mind. His shows are more informative where shows like O'Reilly or Beck are more opinion.

[jsk]

My biggest request (are you reading this, Glenn ) would be if he would start aiming his laser at the GOP now and show how they have been progressives as well, and trying to destroy the country from the other side of the coin. I think it would really trip up his liberal-leftist bashers--which would be a good thing.

PJ....

Check this out....Beck actually mentions Carroll Quigley and quotes from "Hope and Tragedy."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,598642,00.html

When I first watched Glenn a few years ago, I wrote him off as a Republican shill cut from the same cloth as Sean Hannity. But I really think Glenn is getting it now. I think he very well sees that the Democrats and Republicans are different sides of the same coin...

jsk

[Fiannan]

The new America if liberals have thier way:

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[moonwhim]

My biggest request (are you reading this, Glenn ) would be if he would start aiming his laser at the GOP now and show how they have been progressives as well, and trying to destroy the country from the other side of the coin. I think it would really trip up his liberal-leftist bashers--which would be a good thing.

PJ....

Check this out....Beck actually mentions Carroll Quigley and quotes from "Hope and Tragedy."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,598642,00.html

When I first watched Glenn a few years ago, I wrote him off as a Republican shill cut from the same cloth as Sean Hannity. But I really think Glenn is getting it now. I think he very well sees that the Democrats and Republicans are different sides of the same coin...

jsk

I can't be as hopeful about Beck. He has condemned too much truth in the past for me to trust him now. If he is allowing more truth on his show, i believe it is because his audience is becoming more educated and demanding it. His expose of the "progressives" is only about the lower level minions of the Gadiantons. Where is his expose of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Group, The Club of Rome? These organizations are the true visible controllers of the "progressives" and other minions. Look at the CFR Chart in the Download section of this forum: http://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopi ... =26&t=8967. Ask why he isn't showing this on his chalkboard. As long as the public aren't aware of these groups and the control they maintain, then the public will continue to be fooled.

[durangout]

My biggest request (are you reading this, Glenn ) would be if he would start aiming his laser at the GOP now and show how they have been progressives as well, and trying to destroy the country from the other side of the coin. I think it would really trip up his liberal-leftist bashers--which would be a good thing.

PJ....

Check this out....Beck actually mentions Carroll Quigley and quotes from "Hope and Tragedy."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,598642,00.html

When I first watched Glenn a few years ago, I wrote him off as a Republican shill cut from the same cloth as Sean Hannity. But I really think Glenn is getting it now. I think he very well sees that the Democrats and Republicans are different sides of the same coin...

jsk

I can't be as hopeful about Beck. He has condemned too much truth in the past for me to trust him now. If he is allowing more truth on his show, i believe it is because his audience is becoming more educated and demanding it. His expose of the "progressives" is only about the lower level minions of the Gadiantons. Where is his expose of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Group, The Club of Rome? These organizations are the true visible controllers of the "progressives" and other minions. Look at the CFR Chart in the Download section of this forum: http://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopi ... =26&t=8967. Ask why he isn't showing this on his chalkboard. As long as the public aren't aware of these groups and the control they maintain, then the public will continue to be fooled.

The sheeple can only handle so much truth at one time.

[jsk]

My biggest request (are you reading this, Glenn ) would be if he would start aiming his laser at the GOP now and show how they have been progressives as well, and trying to destroy the country from the other side of the coin. I think it would really trip up his liberal-leftist bashers--which would be a good thing.

PJ....

Check this out....Beck actually mentions Carroll Quigley and quotes from "Hope and Tragedy."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,598642,00.html

When I first watched Glenn a few years ago, I wrote him off as a Republican shill cut from the same cloth as Sean Hannity. But I really think Glenn is getting it now. I think he very well sees that the Democrats and Republicans are different sides of the same coin...

jsk

I can't be as hopeful about Beck. He has condemned too much truth in the past for me to trust him now. If he is allowing more truth on his show, i believe it is because his audience is becoming more educated and demanding it. His expose of the "progressives" is only about the lower level minions of the Gadiantons. Where is his expose of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderberg Group, The Club of Rome? These organizations are the true visible controllers of the "progressives" and other minions. Look at the CFR Chart in the Download section of this forum: http://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopi ... =26&t=8967. Ask why he isn't showing this on his chalkboard. As long as the public aren't aware of these groups and the control they maintain, then the public will continue to be fooled.

I hear you, but I have a different view point...not everyone is at the same point or place...just because you believe/understand the role played by these groups doesn't mean everyone has that same understanding. Besides, these are shadowy groups, and I don't think anyone really understands what role they are playing...remember, there are "hidden things of darkness." Beck seems to be choosing to focus on those issues that aren't so much in the dark, and I commend him for that.

[moonwhim]

Until you know who the real Gadiantons are you will be used by them. If Beck is holding back the truth then he is doing no one a service except the Gadiantons.

[pjbrownie]

Until you know who the real Gadiantons are you will be used by them. If Beck is holding back the truth then he is doing no one a service except the Gadiantons.

Unless this is part of a strategy. Why would he recommend Tragedy and Hope, when if one were to read it, the very organizations, the CFR (which Glenn has railed against), and the Club of Rome are exposed?

[moonwhim]

Until you know who the real Gadiantons are you will be used by them. If Beck is holding back the truth then he is doing no one a service except the Gadiantons.

Unless this is part of a strategy. Why would he recommend Tragedy and Hope, when if one were to read it, the very organizations, the CFR (which Glenn has railed against), and the Club of Rome are exposed?

Good point, but recommending Tragedy and Hope, how many people would read it? Is he putting on his chalk board the control that these organizations (CFR, Trilaterals, Bildebergs) have over us? Is he identifing all the members of these groups and the power positions that they have, so that the American people know who they are?

[pjbrownie]

Until you know who the real Gadiantons are you will be used by them. If Beck is holding back the truth then he is doing no one a service except the Gadiantons.

Unless this is part of a strategy. Why would he recommend Tragedy and Hope, when if one were to read it, the very organizations, the CFR (which Glenn has railed against), and the Club of Rome are exposed?

Good point, but recommending Tragedy and Hope, how many people would read it? Is he putting on his chalk board the control that these organizations (CFR, Trilaterals, Bildebergs) have over us? Is he identifing all the members of these groups and the power positions that they have, so that the American people know who they are?

No because that would get him carted off to the conspiracy garbage can of history. He'd have the same audience size as AJ. Unfortunately, when people hear CRF, Trilateral, and Bildeberg they think you're a nut. TPTB have done a great job at marginalizing anyone that exposes these groups. I know because that's what I used to think about them. They were conspiracy nuts. I still refrain from talking too much about them because it brands me as a nut. I stick with the Federal Reserve and big banking. Depends who I'm taking to, but I'm careful about how much I reveal because people automatically label you as a kook.

[moonwhim]

No because that would get him carted off to the conspiracy garbage can of history. He'd have the same audience size as AJ. Unfortunately, when people hear CRF, Trilateral, and Bildeberg they think you're a nut. TPTB have done a great job at marginalizing anyone that exposes these groups. I know because that's what I used to think about them. They were conspiracy nuts. I still refrain from talking too much about them because it brands me as a nut. I stick with the Federal Reserve and big banking. Depends who I'm taking to, but I'm careful about how much I reveal because people automatically label you as a kook.

pj: I have to disagree with you on that. There is plenty of good evidence to present that shows how these groups are the power structures that are destroying America. And people usually respond positive to the evidence I give them. Besides it is getting so late for this country that we need to be awakening people to the "full" truth as quickly as possible. Especially now as things are getting bad that people are ready for the truth, and if some aren't....well that is their problem, but I am still responsible to enlighten them.

[Jason]

No because that would get him carted off to the conspiracy garbage can of history. He'd have the same audience size as AJ. Unfortunately, when people hear CRF, Trilateral, and Bildeberg they think you're a nut. TPTB have done a great job at marginalizing anyone that exposes these groups. I know because that's what I used to think about them. They were conspiracy nuts. I still refrain from talking too much about them because it brands me as a nut. I stick with the Federal Reserve and big banking. Depends who I'm taking to, but I'm careful about how much I reveal because people automatically label you as a kook.

Is it that bad to get labeled?

[moonwhim]

No because that would get him carted off to the conspiracy garbage can of history. He'd have the same audience size as AJ. Unfortunately, when people hear CRF, Trilateral, and Bildeberg they think you're a nut. TPTB have done a great job at marginalizing anyone that exposes these groups. I know because that's what I used to think about them. They were conspiracy nuts. I still refrain from talking too much about them because it brands me as a nut. I stick with the Federal Reserve and big banking. Depends who I'm taking to, but I'm careful about how much I reveal because people automatically label you as a kook.

Is it that bad to get labeled?

What people think of you can depend a lot on how and what you present as evidence.