'Circles of Quiet'

[ChildWise]

Hi folks, haven't visited you for a while. Trust all is well with Friends.

For those who have ears to hear, a true evangelist/prophet/apostle speaks today: ( Day later update: 'The Holy Spirit' rebuked me for writing 'true', not that true is erroneous, but that my attitude was tainted with needless combative undertones....forgive me please fellow Freedom Forumers. and ChelC is a winner.)

http://www.clairvauxmanifesto.com

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[Hyrcanus]

Hi folks, haven't visited you for a while. Trust all is well with Friends.

For those who have ears to hear, a true evangelist/prophet/apostle speaks today:

http://www.clairvauxmanifesto.com

Still reading through his stuff. He isn't an apostle/prophet though, the Lord has a designated way of appointing them.

[M249Gunner]

He likes to use the phrase "change agent." That is a phrase the commies/gadiantons seem to like as well.

[ChildWise]

Hi folks, haven't visited you for a while. Trust all is well with Friends.

For those who have ears to hear, a true evangelist/prophet/apostle speaks today:

http://www.clairvauxmanifesto.com

Still reading through his stuff. He isn't an apostle/prophet though, the Lord has a designated way of appointing them.

Yes, thru the Holy Spirit confirmed by anointed other wise men under The Blood of The Lamb, if you will. Certain terms are used ('change agent' )for cetain reasons and perhaps to reach certain stratospheric circles of global society in need of Redemption.... LDS does not have ultimate authority on true......

If one thinks/believes such then such is dangerous Pride waters to wade around in started by a certain one of angels/cherubs of three being Gabriel, Michael and in particular the Lightish appearing one named Lucifer/Satan with neither of the 3 being of the same blood type as Jesus.

[Hyrcanus]

Hi folks, haven't visited you for a while. Trust all is well with Friends.

For those who have ears to hear, a true evangelist/prophet/apostle speaks today:

http://www.clairvauxmanifesto.com

Still reading through his stuff. He isn't an apostle/prophet though, the Lord has a designated way of appointing them.

Yes, thru the Holy Spirit confirmed by anointed other wise men under The Blood of The Lamb, if you will. Certain terms are used ('change agent' )for cetain reasons and perhaps to reach certain stratospheric circles of global society in need of Redemption.... LDS does not have ultimate authority on true......

Christ is the ultimate authority on the truth, fortunately for us though he has designated an order by which he appoints Prophets and Apostles. This man isn't one of them.

[ChildWise]

I see you like Stones and Circles: Go here: [/color]
http://www.biblewheel.com/wheel/intro.asp


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Christ is the ultimate authority on the truth,[/b]

Yes this is accurate......depends on what/who the definition of Christ is: Messiah, Jesus Christ, the 'Lion and the Lamb', the crimson stained One who dealt/deals with twisted 'Pride' by 'Humility's' bended knee blood stained on the Tree for you and me, while love of $= 'Power and Control' bows to 'Submission', as 'Sanctification' corner of the triangle properly aligns 'Pleasures' that drinks in sweet poison fueled by the other two P's gone amiss.

Has some authority attempted to redefine Truth using the 'buzz' Words of Truth (Christ)?

Has some authority gone Pride/Power/Pleasures off course like a top eyed upright triangle with 'gold pills' and 'super machine shop goggles'?

fortunately for us though he has designated an order by which he appoints Prophets and Apostles.

Fortunately for us has not an inverted triangle (Humility, Submission and Sanctify) redeemed the The P's gone askew in the lives of those under the blood covenant of Lion and Lamb?

A few sour P's and A's said such pre-Joseph latter descendant: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=NIV

This man isn't one of them.


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1 John 2 (New International Version)

1 John 2

1My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for[a] the sins of the whole world.

3We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. 4The man who says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5But if anyone obeys his word, God's love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: 6Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.

7Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command but an old one, which you have had since the beginning. This old command is the message you have heard. 8Yet I am writing you a new command; its truth is seen in him and you, because the darkness is passing and the true light is already shining.

9Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness. 10Whoever loves his brother lives in the light, and there is nothing in him[c] to make him stumble. 11But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness; he does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded him.

12I write to you, dear children,
because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name.

13I write to you, fathers,
because you have known him who is from the beginning.
I write to you, young men,
because you have overcome the evil one.
I write to you, dear children,
because you have known the Father.

14I write to you, fathers,
because you have known him who is from the beginning.
I write to you, young men,
because you are strong,
and the word of God lives in you,
and you have overcome the evil one.

Do Not Love the World

15Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For everything in the world—the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does—comes not from the Father but from the world. 17The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever.

Warning Against Antichrists

18Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.

20But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.[d] 21I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist—he denies the Father and the Son. 23No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

24See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25And this is what he promised us—even eternal life.

26I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.
Children of God

28And now, dear children, continue in him, so that when he appears we may be confident and unashamed before him at his coming.

29If you know that he is righteous, you know that everyone who does what is right has been born of him.

[pritchet1]

ChildWise;

What a crock!

I've got my bogus meter on full, the Spirit of Discernment on full stun.

We know who the Savior is. This guy you propose, ain't.

[ChildWise]

ChildWise;

"pritchet1' wrote: What a crock!

Childwise: The Davin chi code was/is a crock. How about Davi Crock-et and Crock Dundee?


I've got my bogus meter on full, the Spirit of Discernment on full stun.

'Full' and 'Stunned' is an interesting position for dialogue....just "Please just don't taze me man" like some reassigned 'fully injected' war soldier to the streets of burning Constitution-ville.

Is it time to de-meter and get rid of ear chopping tazer swords? Peace P1....go here and meditate on truth. Connect with deep issues of the heart, with The One who loves your childlike (not childish) heart. http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=ifeJRC5 ... re=related

We know who the Savior is. This guy you propose, ain't.

Who proposed such?? Not I nor the guy. Any claim that does rise must come from a knee bended position where cracked/or 'crocked' clay pots are in daily need of Grace.

[pritchet1]

Love your sense of humor.

[Geeswell]

uh. this topic gives me the creeps. I don't like it's tone at all.

I'll stick with President Monson and the rest of those called of God to lead and guide the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Even if this guy were a prophet of sorts, we don't need him. at all. He can not receive anything for me or the momentum of God's True church and therefore has nothing to do with me or my family. or any here for that matter

[ChildWise]

.....and this topic gives me the creeps. I don't like it's tone at all.

Did the guys at the tables get the creeps from the tone emitted by a passionate Man[/i], or for some, a 'raving lunatic' who kicked over coined tables and whipped up a frenzy?

I'll stick with President Monson and the rest of those called of God to lead and guide the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Are there man-made self appointed elite pinnacled 90 degree angle-less Calvary Cross-cornered-less golden tipped monuments ('I-5 'Scripps' area 'Castle') converted from $millions upon millions$ while the likes of James 1:27 is snubbed and starved?

Even if this guy were a prophet of sorts, we don't need him. at all.

Am I in need of an attitude check?

He can not receive anything for me or the momentum of God's True church and therefore has nothing to do with me or my family. or any here for that matter

Cannot the 'anys' decide for themselves truth or error with Spirit of Wisdom's council? Re-refer to Bible John quote above.

"And please Sir 'Wild Good', (from the book Clairvaux Manifesto ) help me (Childwise) to be more 'Quick to Listen, Slow to Speak and Slow to Anger' with certain pinnacle cornered friends who claim 'Kingdom' elite status..."

[ChildWise]

Love your sense of humor.

Pritchet, with the stuff a person I know deals with daily in Central America for the last 10 years as a volunteer/'missionary', humor is a necessity medicine, like yesterday at a government facility where young children are 'kept' from harmful situations to 'better situations': raping guards..... and where a suicidal 13 year old girl realized where babies come from, like her recent newborn who came from her dad's loins and her mother is her sister.........

.....and to be quite frank, the Facebooks and blogs for the most part are diluting, for they seem to be facilitating / creating a society of feel-less, touch-less robots believing they have global freedom.

Who would like to hop on a plane for a short term visit, scout out the 'land' and possibly eternally Kingdom invest 7000 American 'seeds' to legal title 7 acres (worth 150,000 seeds) in national park with virgin soil fertile water blessed area to grow year round strawberries, potatoes, plantains, coffee and sundry vegies for inner city child feeding efforts?

Are too many billions spent on countless wards and temples surrounded by high walls and chain-linked barbed wire fences while innocent wet cheeks huddle in damp corners as hungry tummies grumble on?

Who of the inoculated masses throughout Bald Eagle Empire will get off the tube and get on a plane, feel the dirt, make a real difference?

[kathyn]

Childwise, methinks you are imbibing too much of the New Age KoolAid.

[Hyrcanus]

Are too many billions spent on countless wards and temples surrounded by high walls and chain-linked barbed wire fences while innocent wet cheeks huddle in damp corners as hungry tummies grumble on?

Just for fun. Point out one example of a temple surrounded by a chain-linked barbwire fence. Second, you're pre-supposing that the Church spending money on Temples and Wards doesn't actually produce a higher rate of charitable out-going spending on the needy. The LDS Church spends a tremendous amount of money of humanitarian efforts around the world directly, on top of all the local volunteering, service missionaries and aid packages the Church is responsible for the production of.

[ChelC]

Most members don't know the half of the humanitarian service provided by the church, so I wouldn't expect Childwise to know either. I've learned so many things in the years my husband has been employed with the welfare department. The church money isn't just one big pot. There are specific funds for specific expenditures. The fact is the church does spend a lot on moving temple work forward - it costs a lot in the sacrifice and volunteer efforts of church members, but don't let that visible monetary expense fool you into believing the LDS people do not put our money and our volunteerism where our mouth is. You would certainly be deceiving yourself.

[NamasteMama]

Hi folks, haven't visited you for a while. Trust all is well with Friends.

For those who have ears to hear, a true evangelist/prophet/apostle speaks today:

http://www.clairvauxmanifesto.com

I didn't even bother to read your link as you user name is "Childwise", which I assume is because of Ezzo, who's abusive child rearing tactics have caused the deaths of several children. I would never trust a thing coming from a person who follows him.

[ChildWise]

Hi folks, haven't visited you for a while. Trust all is well with Friends.

For those who have ears to hear, a true evangelist/prophet/apostle speaks today:

http://www.clairvauxmanifesto.com

I didn't even bother to read your link as you user name is "Childwise", which I assume is because of Ezzo, who's abusive child rearing tactics have caused the deaths of several children. I would never trust a thing coming from a person who follows him.

.....follows 'Ezzo'...who? Assumptions are not good....Consider the link.

p,s. Yesterday with a short term team from Canada we visited the gov. prison holding minors from age 12 - 19. Two girls are in solitary for their competition on who can gain the most female 'lovers.' Sad. We had a time of dramas, sharing the Word of God, worship/singing and the Holy Spirit did some wonderful mind/emotions/heart healing of many little girls in need of cleansing, forgiveness via pure Father's Love via His Son and His Work accomplished thru His blood death and resurrection. Onelittle girl age 12 was holding a white teddy bear.....

LDS, maybe build one/many less fancy Ward/s & high prices Temples in the slums and invest / build daycare feeding/preschool centers in slum areas......and it looks like (I may be wrong) a multi-million Temple is 'on the table' next to the airport in Tegucigalpa.....hopefully not at a $$$$$$$ cost similar to the edifice 'two'man' on the 5 in La Jolla. .... :-/

/:-(

:=) "Okay Charlie Chap, now stop swinging that cane and have a cup of Decafe....or some 'medicated' diet (aspartame) drink variety of your choice...[

[ChildWise]

Are too many billions spent on countless wards and temples surrounded by high walls and chain-linked barbed wire fences while innocent wet cheeks huddle in damp corners as hungry tummies grumble on?

Just for fun. Point out one example of a temple surrounded by a chain-linked barbwire fence.

Hi H,

I may get back to you sometime with just a few photos from just one city in Central America.

Second, you're pre-supposing that the Church spending money on Temples and Wards doesn't actually produce a higher rate of charitable out-going spending on the needy. The LDS Church spends a tremendous amount of money of humanitarian efforts around the world directly, on top of all the local volunteering, service missionaries and aid packages the Church is responsible for the production of.

[Hyrcanus]

Hi folks, haven't visited you for a while. Trust all is well with Friends.

For those who have ears to hear, a true evangelist/prophet/apostle speaks today:

http://www.clairvauxmanifesto.com

I didn't even bother to read your link as you user name is "Childwise", which I assume is because of Ezzo, who's abusive child rearing tactics have caused the deaths of several children. I would never trust a thing coming from a person who follows him.

.....follows 'Ezzo'...who? Assumptions are not good....Consider the link.

p,s. Yesterday with a short term team from Canada we visited the gov. prison holding minors from age 12 - 19. Two girls are in solitary for their competition on who can gain the most female 'lovers.' Sad. We had a time of dramas, sharing the Word of God, worship/singing and the Holy Spirit did some wonderful mind/emotions/heart healing of many little girls in need of cleansing, forgiveness via pure Father's Love via His Son and His Work accomplished thru His blood death and resurrection. Onelittle girl age 12 was holding a white teddy bear.....

LDS, maybe build one/many less fancy Ward/s in the slums and invest / build daycare feeding/preschool centers in slum areas......and it looks like (I may be wrong) a multi-million Temple in 'on the table' next to a freeway in Tegucigalpa.....hopefully not like the edifice on the 5 in La Jolla.../color]

What evidence do you have that building a ward/temple building is less beneficial then building a daycare/preschool? You need to present evidence to validate the claims you're making.

[ChelC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2ObcAqMjIQ

Certainly we all likely need to do more, but I think this criticism of the church is so ignorant. The church does a lot of humanitarian work - we can and should do more, and that is dependent on church members. However, what good is it to take 100% of the money (even if it could be treated as one pot - which it cannot) and spend it all in only one form of help? We'd be neglecting the immortal souls of countless individuals. Church and temple work are vital. I'm sure you wouldn't think so as a non member with negative associations with mormonism, however, if you've watched the videos I sent you, I'd think you'd at least understand why we believe temple work is so crucial.

I'm sorry you've had bad experiences with the church, Childwise, but I can't figure out why you spend so much energy in criticism.

[Epistemology]

Hi folks, haven't visited you for a while. Trust all is well with Friends.

For those who have ears to hear, a true evangelist/prophet/apostle speaks today:

http://www.clairvauxmanifesto.com

I didn't even bother to read your link as you user name is "Childwise", which I assume is because of Ezzo, who's abusive child rearing tactics have caused the deaths of several children. I would never trust a thing coming from a person who follows him.

.....follows 'Ezzo'...who? Assumptions are not good....Consider the link.

p,s. Yesterday with a short term team from Canada we visited the gov. prison holding minors from age 12 - 19. Two girls are in solitary for their competition on who can gain the most female 'lovers.' Sad. We had a time of dramas, sharing the Word of God, worship/singing and the Holy Spirit did some wonderful mind/emotions/heart healing of many little girls in need of cleansing, forgiveness via pure Father's Love via His Son and His Work accomplished thru His blood death and resurrection. Onelittle girl age 12 was holding a white teddy bear.....

LDS, maybe build one/many less fancy Ward/s in the slums and invest / build daycare feeding/preschool centers in slum areas......and it looks like (I may be wrong) a multi-million Temple in 'on the table' next to a freeway in Tegucigalpa.....hopefully not like the edifice on the 5 in La Jolla.../color]

When God asks a Temple to be built or a meeting house, then the Church builds it. And when the Church builds the House of the Lord, it is built in reverance and respect for Him. I think if the Lord wanted His house to be something other than what has and is being done He would have told us so before we built/planned 152 of them

[ChildWise]

Epistemology wrote: "When God asks a Temple to be built or a meeting house, then the Church builds it. And when the Church builds the House of the Lord, it is built in reverence and respect for Him. I think if the Lord wanted His house to be something other than what has and is being done He would have told us so before 'we built/planned '152 of them." ? [/quote]

Ponder the likes of Isa 58


Wednesday, January 27, 2010 Quotes from some guy Matthew:
http://matthewkowalski.blogspot.com/201 ... ricks.html

God's Temple is Not Made of Bricks

“Sometimes I see things done in the name of bringing glory to God that just make me want to vomit and/or cry and/or slap someone. Today I saw one of those things. …………..

First Baptist Church of Dallas Texas wants to bring transformation to the Dallas area. They want to touch people's lives with the good news of Jesus Christ. What is that good news? That God wants to build $130 million buildings, of course. (photo / video clip)…………..

Then you have pesky scriptures like these:
"Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days."

The Jews replied, "It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?" But the temple he had spoken of was his body. (John 2:19-21)

The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. (Acts 17:24)

Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple. (1 Cor. 3:16-17)

What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: "I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people. (2 Cor. 6:16)

Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit. (Eph. 2:19-22)

[ChildWise]

Childwise, methinks you are imbibing too much of the New Age KoolAid.

Tis one thing to think, tis totally another to know.....and to Know 'I AM'.

Try some Good/God Stuff Kathyn dear 'LOVE CAME DOWN & RESCUED ME' here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=ifeJRC5 ... re=related

[ChildWise]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2ObcAqMjIQ

Certainly we all likely need to do more, but I think this criticism of the church is so ignorant. The church does a lot of humanitarian work - we can and should do more, and that is dependent on church members. However, what good is it to take 100% of the money (even if it could be treated as one pot - which it cannot) and spend it all in only one form of help? We'd be neglecting the immortal souls of countless individuals. Church and temple work are vital. I'm sure you wouldn't think so as a non member with negative associations with mormonism, however, if you've watched the videos I sent you, I'd think you'd at least understand why we believe temple work is so crucial.

I'm sorry you've had bad experiences with the church, Childwise, but I can't figure out why you spend so much energy in criticism.

Well well, Chelc, How you doing? I see you are still onto the chocolate. My American-USA director is a slave descendant, and a good friend

:-/ Who can touch the corner of their mouth with the tip of their nose!?

:=) Now stop to Charlie Chaplin!

Two friends (-::-) staring up at billowing clouds from some park....

ChelC and I are writing this 'journal' together you see, two sailors on paralleling ships it seems, chugging away through the calms and storms of life via the blue haze while starting to breaking through it's 'Matrix' with cd's in the mail, and perhaps more in store, through the doorway.......

"Under the covering

Below the frame

Are the post of my life crimson stained

With the blood of an innocent Lamb

King of Kings Great lion Aslan..

Who will get on their knees and run on home........Be still and know I AM"...........a few lines from a song that recently echoed from my guitar.

Folks, ChelC has discerned with definitive craft the 'olor' (Spanish for smell and in this case a stinky one) the un-Christlike criticism bubbling from the soup of this 'Christian' poster here. Forgive me. Thank you for this Youtube link ChelC and for the cd's that helps give good lds perspective and passion.

As for my tendency to void off into critical-casting, perhaps it has some to do with my experience with vast too many claimed Christians who walk the path other than the one touted from the mouth, meanwhile 'innocent mouths thirst and tummies grumble' as critic-ed somewhere above.

Yet are there not elements of truth to the announcement that pride of life and love of money chains and locks many who think they walk in freedom...regardless of what side of the Ward barbed wire you stand on?....:=) .... like on the street last night with guitar and song to have a new friend Elder Anderson pass by offering a track and 'The WAY' and with questions to interrupt the song, like...

"Where were you baptized?"


"In the ocean I was Sir Anderson..."......


"Did the person (baptizer) have authority?"....with smile[/i]......all tainted with cleverly served & cloaked, perhaps even innocently, which makes it all the more insidious from Lucifer's Cafe Menu (rooted in the skewed Pride, Power, Pleasures quest, basted in humble looking pie, looking elegant, arrogance masked with subtlety elevated odorous pride......that I too by the way wallow in at times,..... and must we all not keep in check the perverted P's with keys of Humility, Submission and Sanctification?

"No Mr. Anderson" says Agent Smith "I don't need a track nor to "pray and ask 'God'/ if 'this' is true.

"Unplug from Main Frame Mr Anderson" say's Morpheus.

What rings true and might tilt my ear is if/when '7000 seeds' are planted from lds source with no controlling strings attached to wave the lds flag other than Isa 58 for i.e. ( as in the lds left hand not tell the lds right hand it's good deed for the day) .....'7000 seeds' to acquire 7 acres, in advance of the global storm on the horizon to plant 'heirloom' strawberries, plantains, corn, beans, potatoes... & even coffee God forbid for the adults!... for hungry tummies, the core of the Gospel Salvation Army style perhaps with a passionate Latin cultural flavor...

Gotta jet as the kids awake and day cometh

[ChelC]

What rings true and might tilt my ear is if/when '7000 seeds' are planted from lds source with no controlling strings attached to wave the lds flag. . ( as in the lds left hand not telling the lds right hand it's good deed for the day) .....'7000 seeds' to acquire 7 acres, in advance of the global storm on the horizon to plant 'heirloom' strawberries, plantains, corn beans, potatoes..... for hungry tummies, the core of the Gospel, Salvation Army style perhaps with a passionate Latin cultural flavor...

How would it possibly tilt your ear? You wouldn't know about it. I've personally witnessed countless situations in my life of anonymous service... from people of all religions who seek to serve their God. I'm sorry you are offended by the way the LDS run things. I'm sorry if our missionaries have offended you... we have no paid clergy and I assure you their hearts are in the right place. Perhaps you feel slighted as a missionary there and this is turning into a competition for souls? I have no idea of anything other than that you like to come to this LDS board and release a few insults and then leave again. You certainly come and plant seeds of your faith here, but when asked direct questions by missionaries there, you see those questions as clever and cloaked.

Where you look for offense, you are sure to find it, so I'm sure our church will continue to let you down. The gospel won't let you down though, and I hope you'll be able to see it through the imperfections of our people.