Dr Jones giving talk at SLCC 30 July; new topics: comments?

[BroJones]

Dear friends,

I will be giving a talk on Friday 30 July at the Salt Lake Community College, 4:10 pm (I have over two hours!) -- information here:

http://axiomconference.com/schedule/

I will discuss 9/11 research and evidence certainly -- then I plan to talk about the following (from my PPT slides I'm working on):

Those who think for themselves, challenging the “official 9/11 story” that ONLY Al Qaeda was involved in the destruction of the WTC and Pentagon hit --
Also think independently regarding Energy, Health, Bank bail-outs, Community-governance, etc.


ENERGY
Solar, especially passive solar
Solar funnel cooker
Electric cars (why were these “killed”?)
Alternative power -- especially electric
Cold fusion -- e.g. deuterons on Lithium
Bedini generators -- etc.
Algae for oil, food


HEALTH
Alkalinizing the blood vs. cancer
Natural oils, herbs instead of pharmaceuticals (vs “Obamacare”)
Cutting way down on meats vs cancer and disease (“The China Study”)
Cutting way down on white flour & sugar
Do vaccinations [e.g. mercury] cause problems?


INDEPENDENT COMMUNITIES
Grid-independence - community grid
Farmers’ markets; food independence
Water independence
Bartering
Self-governance (county sheriff etc) vs. Federal interference
Communications net in case internet, phones fail

PREPAREDNESS -- when the grid goes out
Lights, cooking, shelter
Warm clothing, boots
Water
Attitude adjustment

“Critical thinking” welcomed! Not afraid to ASK questions… and seek DATA
Contact in America pre-Columbus
Writing in No. America pre-Columbus
UFO’s -- extraterrestrial or not?
Chemtrails -- or just contrails?
Bigfoot/ Sasquatch
Huge asteroid coming? Nbiru?
Are Feds setting up “FEMA camps”, preparing for martial law?

Challenging Theory of Relativity
Seeking critical experiment between Einstein and Lorentz theories (since grad school work at Stanford)

I'm asking here for comments on the above topics...

Thanks,
Steven Jones

PS -- sorry this conference is not free... Note that I do NOT make one penny from my talk!
Put on by WeAreChangeUtah

[NoGreaterLove]

Here is big foot.
http://slick.org/deathwatch/mailarchive/msg00942.html

SEATTLE, Washington (AP) -- The man who used 16-inch feet-shaped
carvings to create tracks that ignited the "Bigfoot" legend has died.
He was 84.

Ray L. Wallace's family admitted his role in the creature myth after
his death November 26 from heart failure.

"The reality is, Bigfoot just died," his son, Michael, said

[NoGreaterLove]

Here is the ten commandments in Hebrew in New Mexico about 900bc to 600bc.

http://www.econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/arch/loslunas.html

The Los Lunas Inscription is an abridged version of the Decalogue or Ten Commandments, carved into the flat face of a large boulder resting on the side of Hidden Mountain, near Los Lunas, New Mexico, about 35 miles south of Albuquerque. The language is Hebrew, and the script is the Old Hebrew alphabet, with a few Greek letters mixed in. See Cline (1982), Deal (1984), Stonebreaker (1982), Underwood (1982), and/or Neuhoff (1999) for transcriptions and translation, and Deal (1984) for discussion and photographs of the setting.

[BroJones]

NGL -- a very solid scientist and friend of mine told me that he personally saw a Sasquatch eating berries across a ravine from where he was hiking. Unfortunately, he lacked a camera... but he is a credible witness (IMO), so I'm keeping an open mind on that one.

I emailed one of the organizers -- they will provide FRIDAY only tickets if anyone is interested:

I would be happy to give say $25 seats for just Friday. I wish I could do it free, but I'm gonna be in debt as it is!

Clint Richardson <[email protected]

[larsenb]

Dr. Jones, my thinking is that people who pay for the whole conference or even the $25 for Friday would want to hear as much as they can about your involvement w/9/11 issues and research. Your participation may be why they forked out the money in the first place, and there could be a fair amount of disappointment if you get too sidetracked on issues they have little or no interest in.

Two hours can go by quite fast, especially w/breaks, and certainly with a period of answering questions from the audience. You should certainly open up the last half hour or so to questions.

You might simply mention or put in a slide some of the topics you've listed as things you are curious about as an independent thinker and have done some research on. Then during the question/answer period, people can draw you out on topics they want you to elaborate on.

But I think the real meat and most of the time should be spent on 9/11, especially any new information or anecdotes. People north of Utah County who might attend haven't had much opportunity to hear you speak on these things, if they aren't following your papers or presentations elsewhere.

[creator]

Those are good topics you've got listed under energy, health, independence, and preparedness, but any one of them alone could be a 2 hour discussion... you've got 2 hours total for all of this? If so, better plan on only very briefly mentioning each one.

I'm also somewhat interested in attending, but definitely not interested in paying $70 to attend.

[NoGreaterLove]

I'm asking here for comments on the above topics...

so I'm keeping an open mind on that one

An open mind portrayed in a discussion of this subject would include both your friends first hand experience as related to you and the documented confession of the son of the one who invented the myth.

[BroJones]

Larsenb -- right, the emphasis is on 9/11 research. What I'm planning is "segments" on other topics, and to spend a lot of time answering questions.

Brian -- note that one can purchase "Friday only" ticket if desired -- see email for Clint above.

NGL -- are you saying that Mr. Wallace single-handedly "invented the myth" of Sasquatch? The article says "ignited", which implies "sparked interest" which is different, but if you have source material for your statement about "invented the myth", I'd like to see it. Thanks.

[NoGreaterLove]

From: Seattle Times, Thursday, December 05, 2002.

The truth can finally be told, according to Mr. Wallace's family members. He orchestrated the prank that created Bigfoot in 1958.

Some experts suspected Mr. Wallace had planted the footprints that launched the term "Bigfoot." But Mr. Wallace and his family had never publicly admitted the 1958 deed until now.

"The fact is there was no Bigfoot in popular consciousness before 1958. America got its own monster, its own Abominable Snowman thanks to Ray Wallace," said Mark Chorvinsky, editor of Strange magazine and one of the leading proponents of the theory that Mr. Wallace fathered Bigfoot.

Pranks and hoaxes were just part of Mr. Wallace's nature.

http://home.clara.net/rfthomas/news/bfisdead.html

Michael Wallace said his father called the Patterson film "a fake" and said he had nothing to do with it. But he said his mother admitted she had been photographed in a Bigfoot suit. "He had several people he used in his movies," Michael Wallace said.

[BroJones]

" one of the leading proponents of the theory that Mr. Wallace fathered Bigfoot."

But I think I'll leave Bigfoot out anyway -- the existing evidence is just not compelling.

[Scarecrow]

NGL, I wouldn't believe anything that Ray Wallace said. There is there is little evidence, other than the word of his family (he never publicly took credit), that he had anything to do with the Patterson/Gimlin film or faking footprints. All the evidence I've seen has convinced me that Wallace and his son were merely bandwaggoners trying to get a piece of the action after the fact. There are much better examples that bigfoot may be a fake than the supposed confession of a known prankster.

Doc, a number of years ago I spent a significant amount of time researching the Sasquatch phenomenon, I'm still on the fence, but I think you're wise to exclude talk of him as there is little to be gained from it, and much to be lost.

[bobhenstra]

Dr. Jones, my thinking is that people who pay for the whole conference or even the $25 for Friday would want to hear as much as they can about your involvement w/9/11 issues and research. Your participation may be why they forked out the money in the first place, and there could be a fair amount of disappointment if you get too sidetracked on issues they have little or no interest in.

Two hours can go by quite fast, especially w/breaks, and certainly with a period of answering questions from the audience. You should certainly open up the last half hour or so to questions.

You might simply mention or put in a slide some of the topics you've listed as things you are curious about as an independent thinker and have done some research on. Then during the question/answer period, people can draw you out on topics they want you to elaborate on.

But I think the real meat and most of the time should be spent on 9/11, especially any new information or anecdotes. People north of Utah County who might attend haven't had much opportunity to hear you speak on these things, if they aren't following your papers or presentations elsewhere.

I agree with Brad here Steve. If I'm able to show up, I'll be wanting you to stay on subject and not give the press reason to attack you because your worried about big foot or other weird subjects. Stick with subjects that are useful in living and understanding todays world.

Bob

[kay]

Dr. Jones, your solar funnel cooker is terrific. I am a high school teacher, and I am teaching a summer school class of very unmotivated teenagers who failed Earth Science during the regular school year (I'm normally a Spanish teacher). Most of them are somewhat involved in hispanic gangs, and they don't do much ( or anything) in the way of school work. Today I had them make a funnel cooker because we have been learning about the sun and its energy. You wouldn't believe how excited they were to see how it turned out and how well it worked. We only had plain rice to cook today (poor school), but they kept asking for more and saying how good it tasted. They were asking each other questions on why it worked like it did, and why the bottle had to be painted black, why the foil wasn't really hot like the bottle was, etc. Some of them could correctly answer their classmates questions just because they thought it out. Now they are planning on what they will cook all next week, and they can't wait to show their parents how they can cook with this thing. They don't think that their parents will believe them. Thanks a million for sharing your creativity. Kay

[BroJones]

Dr. Jones, your solar funnel cooker is terrific. I am a high school teacher, and I am teaching a summer school class of very unmotivated teenagers who failed Earth Science during the regular school year (I'm normally a Spanish teacher). Most of them are somewhat involved in hispanic gangs, and they don't do much ( or anything) in the way of school work. Today I had them make a funnel cooker because we have been learning about the sun and its energy. You wouldn't believe how excited they were to see how it turned out and how well it worked. We only had plain rice to cook today (poor school), but they kept asking for more and saying how good it tasted. They were asking each other questions on why it worked like it did, and why the bottle had to be painted black, why the foil wasn't really hot like the bottle was, etc. Some of them could correctly answer their classmates questions just because they thought it out. Now they are planning on what they will cook all next week, and they can't wait to show their parents how they can cook with this thing. They don't think that their parents will believe them. Thanks a million for sharing your creativity. Kay

Thanks a million for sharing your creativity. Kay

You are so welcome, Kay.

This is what I plan for Friday as well. There I will have some science demonstrations, and I plan to ask the audience what topics they would like to see discussed... We'll see how it works out, and interactive talk is envisioned.

[larsenb]

OK, here is the latest information on the Axiom Conference from one of the organizers. Notice, he affirms the $25 per day. Still not sure whether this means pay at the door and whether it means any given day. But the big news is that 'locals' can get a 3 day ticket (assume that includes meals) for $50, but you need to purchase using the discount code/link shown in the quote, below; AND the passes are transferable, both $50 or the full-price $70 tickets.

Quotes of emails from Axiom organizer:

Hey [B...], good to hear from you again.

Yes, we can arrange for the one day tickets. I told Steven $25. Also, the full tickets are transferable, just let us know you are handing them off to someone else (badge).

Also, for locals and friends, here is a discount code you can use for $50 tickets for the 3 days (still transferable) -

http://www.acteva.com/booking.cfm?bevaid=206722

Unfortunately, I am going into debt to put this on, or I'd be giving these away! . . . . . . .

By the way, please feel free to pass this link on to any and everyone you see fit... we are solely doing this to educate people, and as I said I am in the poor house because I believe so much in this. Thanks again, and see you there...

From B....

Can we post the discount link on LDS Freedom Forum for local use?

Reply
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C.... to me

By all means, post the link.

-C..... -

I for one will be purchasing the $50 3-day ticket, and maybe one for my wife. There ARE some outstanding presenters, including Dr. Jones.

[2BFree]

What would be interesting is a segment on promising alternative energy other than the typical sources such as wind and solar. If you could present a synopsis of your research into cold fusion and possible "zero point" energy sources. I think Michael Creighton was correct in his observation that we will be moving into a hydrogen based energy world from the hyrdrocarbon based that we are in. That would be an interesting subject for someone with your credentials to present and elaborate on. I will be there if I'm in town BTW.

Here's a video about the "cold fusion" issue which you have unique insights from the beginning.

http://freedomvideo.org/2010/05/fire-from-water/#2

Another area which might be interesting would be the purpose and effect of HAARP in Alaska and other installations around the world. The insights of a physicist such as yourself could shed interesting light on this technology and it's possible use.

http://freedomvideo.org/2010/05/holes-i ... n-haarp/#2

[BroJones]

Thanks for the info about the $50 tickets for 3 days for locals, larsenb...

And for the comments about cold fusion, 2bFree... Yes, I should discuss that, briefly. There is really SO much we could discuss...

[Thomas Hedin]

Dear Dr. Jones.

Could you take a few minutes out of your time at the conference to get to know Byron Dale? He is one of the speakers there and I really wish that you could meet him and vise versa.

[Hickory]

Dr. Jones –

It’s been a great privilege to hear several of your presentations in the past, and I am hoping to be able to attend yours on this Friday. For whatever value it might have, my preference would be to hear from you primarily about “911”, followed by a “Q & A” session as remaining time may permit. FWIW, while other topics are important in their spheres, I would expect “911” to be of dominant interest and what most attendees would desire to be your single focus on this occasion.

Hickory

[fps.sledge]

To offer my 2 cents.

I know that it isn't free to use that facility, so making people pay to attend is the only way to make it work. It just means that I won't attend. That might also be because I'm a cheapo.

If I did pay to attend, I would like to hear some more practical information. One thing mention is FEMA camps. To me, this is very practical. History has already demonstrated aspects of this. Understanding some history and the future possibilities of what FEMA's capabilities are would be beneficial to anyone.

On Energy, there also needs to be more practical arguments made. One example, solar panels just cost quite a bit of money, so it's costs effectiveness isn't that great. Then again, You can count on the sunlight every single day (except storms/clouds, of course). One HUGE benefit to solar panels on homes is independent energy. Who cares about the cost effectiveness of energy is when you can easily afford solar panels. Being independent is great.

Another practical argument on alternative fuels would be with vehicles. I don't believe hydrogen is anyway to go. Oil companies are in the business of making money. It would be very appropriate for them to invest in other energies where they can continue to make money on a consistent basis. That is, where someone would have to fuel up every week. If there a batter that lasted for eternity and cost only $50 for someone to make, who would want that? Consumers would love it, but energy companies would practically go out of business. They would do everything in their power to secure their business.

Another practical argument I have not yet heard is how to tax alternative energy usage in vehicles. It NEEDS to be taxed. The funds used to maintain and build roads comes from taxing gasoline. A portion of it comes from vehicle registration, but this is an inappropriate and unconstitutional method of taxing the consumer. Most of the funds come through taxing fuel. That is how we earn our right to use the highways. Would electricity be taxed more if we started using electric vehicles? It's an important issue that ought to be recognized by the alternative energy community.

[cayenne]

so dr.jones you are not getting paid?

you should be since what you are teaching is not priestcraft? maybe you could give your own seminar so us poor ones could pay you something to teach, and yet way less than what their charging tomorrow

[larsenb]

Regarding the cost of the Axiom Conference. I believe the charge goes to pay expenses for the several guests they invited to speak, undoubtedly covering air fare, lodging and maybe something for food and transportation. These things don't come cheap. Both Cliff Richardson and Edie Mock, main organizers of the event, said it has put them in debt. Even with the price reduction to $50, the attendance was very sparse, up until Dr. Jones and then Luke Rudkowski spoke later in the day, and even then, not many there.

I attended this first day and am glad I was able to do so, missing only 1 1/2 of the presentations.

Dr. Jones did an excellent job, taking the full 2 hours, and even covered some of his data collection and speculation regarding earthquake clusters. Just the right touch on this, making it very clear he was presenting data of interest and his own speculations, which had not entered the realm of being science, yet.

The compelling piece of data he gave on the possibility the Haitian earthquake might have had some man-made help, was the precursor 0.26 (as I recall) Hz energy waves visible on the seismic charts just before the appearance of the compression or P waves of the actual earthquake. Were we seeing the tandem signals of the ultrasound dyad, which may have been the trigger? Very interesting stuff, and not visible on seismic charts of normal earthquakes.

Dr. Jones exhibited several slides, each of which showed two groups of tightly clustered earthquake 'swarms' separated by a certain distance. I wanted to ask him if the distance between these two swarms was about the same for each of the slides he showed, but did not get a chance. They looked about the same, provided the scale of his maps were equal between the slides.

Steve also had the guts or courage to present his ideas on the whore of Babylon, etc., in front of a group which may not have had had much of a religious orientation. Again, with just the right light touch, though. Well done, Steve!

The other presenter who was well worth hearing was a fellow named Byron Dale. His ideas on the meaning of money were fascinating, to say the least. Basically, he says we need to do away with the evil of creating money out of debt, but we need to create money out of production. And interest-free money at that. The only way we're going to get out of the thrall of the evil empire cum secret combinations.

We also learned what hell he has gone through in trying to promulgate his ideas and to learn them in the first place; he's had all his possessions stripped from him, including a 5,000 acre ranch; he's been severely beaten, during which time a virtual army descended on his ranch complete w/APC's, etc. Also been jailed, probably multiple times. An amazing man, in my view.

I intend to give his ideas a very close study, and will by buying his books and visiting his web site. I think Darren and others would be fascinated by what he has to say, but they probably know all about him. I met him and his wife and had lunch and talked with them; well worth the $50, right there.

And then their was Luke Rudkowski! 24 or 26 years old. One humble, gutsy guy. His group is a bit profane, but Luke is learning to tone things down and is trying to focus on humor, doing things with love, and his special project and focus is to try to raise money for many of the 10,000 9/11 first responders who are sick and dying from breathing the toxic mess they were told was safe, while the City via Mayor Bloomberg is cutting aide to these people, which itself is sickening.

Well worth it. Two more days, Oh, and during the lunch, I also sat at the table w/Dr. True Ott . . . . . . . , who is going to have to change his ways before I'll be very impressed with him.

[bobhenstra]

Thank you Brad! Health reasons prevented my being there. I don't know how I'm going to do it, but I have to be at my mother in law's birthday party tomorrow. She's 95, act's like she's 68. I'm 68, feels like I'm 95!

Bob

[BroJones]

Thanks for your summary, larsenb -- well said. And glad you enjoyed the conference so far. Great to see your wife with you.

The distance between clusters varies... Except in the grid pattern I noted at the Nellis military range. There the spacing was 1.4 miles in both horizontal and vertical directions. I should have noted that some of those points had more than one earthquake at a single grid-point. This to me provides very strong evidence for testing of an earthquake-generating device.
The talk went on for about 2h 40 minutes -- we covered a LOT of topics. It was fun.

AT the end, some one asked that I talk about predictions for the future (based on Bk of Mormon and Bible prophecies)... which I did. Seemed well-received, as you noted.

Question -- during the conference, I pointed to my web page at BYU as a way to link to peer-reviewed papers on 9/11 research -- here:

http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/

(You can get this by googling "dr byu" I noted.)

But this morning, I cannot get the link to work! Strange. Would someone pls check and see if the link works for them?

[NoGreaterLove]

Still down.