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Recently, some websites, writers, and news columnists have been making a startling accusation. They are comparing the America of 2010 to Nazi Germany.

I looked into the topic briefly and realized there aren't many well laid out examples/articles about this, so I decided to write one.

In the list below, each bold statement describes a similarity between the two countries. Underneath the bold statement is a brief example of each. Happy reading.

Both countries created terroristic pre-texts to pass law and launch pre-emptatrive wars:
1. The burning of the Reichstag Government building in Germany Was said to be done by German Forces. This quickly led to the passing of "the enabling Act" and “Decree on the Protection of People and State” which gave Germany and Hitler a pre-text to launch a pre-emptive war, while cutting back german civil liberties at the same time.
2. The 9/11 attacks against the United States in 2001 on the world trade centers were also considered to be inside jobs. These attacks led to the passing of "the patriot act" and "the homeland security act" which gave America a pre-text to launch a pre-emptive war, while cutting back American civil liberties at the same

Both countries have/had camps located throughout their borders ready to house millions of citizens.
1. Nazi Germany had concentration camps connected to railways throughout the country
2. America has FEMA camps connected to railways and ports throughout the country

They both invoked a terrifying internal/external enemy for it's citizens to fear.
1. After the Reichstag fire, Hitler delivered a speech in which he claimed to declare an all-out war on terrorism and its people. A people, he said, who traced their origins to the Middle East.
2. After the 9/11 attack on the United States, president Bush delivered a similar speech about some terrorist known only as Al Queda, a group who also traced it's origins to the Middle East.

Both countries created secret prisons used for torture.
1. Germany built Oranianberg, holding the first suspected allies of the so-called "terrorist."
2. America built Guantanamo bay, a prison holding suspected terrorist.

Both countries developed an outside military force
1. Germany developed Schutzstaffel
2. America has Blackwater

Both countries developed an internal security system
1. Germany had the Reichssicherheitshauptamt and Schutzstaffel
2. America has the CIA and FBI

New World Order
Both Countries controlled the press
1. In Nazi Germany, you were lucky to hear information outside of your own borders, and television was flooded with propaganda.
2. In America, the press has been controlled for years. (ex. BP oil spill) Over 80% of the mainstream media is controlled by a few small groups.

Both countries outlawed school prayer
1. Hitler outlawed school prayer in Germany

2. The US supreme court banned school prayer in 1963.

Both countries renamed and eliminated holidays and prayer days
1. Hitler renamed the Christmas school holiday "Yuletide" and Eliminated the Easter school holiday
2. America renamed the Christmas school holiday to "winter break" and the easter school holiday to "spring break."

Both countries practiced Environmentalism1. Hitler was an environmentalist.
2. America is embracing radical environmentalism and global warming hysteria.

Both countries murdered millions of people
1. Hitler killed millions of Jews, Poles, Slavs and dissidents.
2. America has killed over 50 million people since the early 1970's. (ex. Iraq, Vietnam, the list goes on)

Both countries enacted euthanasia practices
1. Hitler killed hundreds of thousands of citizens through active euthanasia.
2. Obama is implementing universal health care, featuring active euthanasia.

Both countries have tried to silence political and religious opinion
1. Hitler silenced pastors through the “abuse of pulpit” laws.
2. American “hate crime” legislation will criminalize preaching against homosexuality.

Both countries preach nihilism
1. Hitler believed in nihilism, which is the belief in which life has no meaning apart from the state.
2. Fredrick Nietzsche is one of the most read authors on college campuses today. He is the principal founder of nihilism and postmodern thought.

Both countries promote Globalism
1. Hitler was a huge fan of globalism and wanted to rule the world.
2. American leaders are strongly promoting globalism and trying to push United Nations treaties through Congress.

Both countries have ties to the eugenics movement
1. Hitler believed highly in the eugenics movement, which sought to eliminate ‘inferior’ races such as the "Jews."
2. In America, creationism is prohibited in public schools, only evolution is taught exclusively.

Both Countries were strong supporters of planned parenthood
1. Nazi doctors were acquainted with Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood and proponent of eugenics.
2. Planned parenthood in America is a large and growing organization receiving millions of dollars yearly in federal aid programs.

I hope you enjoyed the article and please subscribe to the feed. Feel free to leave a comment with any similarities I may have missed. Could the ever-growing list of similarities between Nazi Germany and America be a cause for concern?

Sources:
1. http://www.hermes-press.com/nazification_step4.htm
2. http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... le3575.htm
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIjYx-legpw (Obama talks)
4. http://www.worldviewweekend.com/worldvi ... cleid=4881
5. Dr. Irwin Lutzer, Hitler's Cross, (Moody Press, Chicago, IL, 1995) p. 111.
6. "The world historical implications of the political crisis in the United States," wsws.org, Feb. 6, 2001
7. http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/20 ... s-america/

‘Kill switch’ bill approved, moves to Senate floor

(PRISON PLANET) President Obama will be handed the power to shut down the Internet for at least four months without Congressional oversight if the Senate votes for the infamous Internet ‘kill switch’ bill, which was approved by a key Senate committee yesterday and now moves to the floor.

WASHINGTON, - A series of U.S. taxpayer-funded agreements awarded to nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) by the Obama Administration clearly contradicts recent statements issued by the U.S. Embassy in Nairobi claiming neutrality in the Kenya constitutional referendum scheduled for a vote in early August.

“There is no doubt that the Obama Administration is funding the ‘yes’ campaign in Kenya,” said Rep. Chris Smith, one of three U.S. lawmakers who have requested an investigation into U.S. activities leading up to the referendum on a proposed constitution that would liberalize the abortion law in Kenya.

“By funding NGOs charged with obtaining ‘yes’ votes, the Administration has crossed the line,” he said.

“Directly supporting efforts to register ‘yes’ voters and ‘get out the yes vote’ means the U.S. government is running a political campaign in Kenya. U.S. taxpayer funds should not be used to support one side or the other.”

NSA says 'Perfect Citizen' is a research program

The U.S. National Security Agency confirmed the existence of a controversial program aimed at protecting the country's critical infrastructure Thursday, but disputed claims that the program would monitor network traffic on critical infrastructure networks.

The program, called Perfect Citizen, was first disclosed Thursday in a Wall Street Journal article that said the NSA "would rely on a set of sensors deployed in computer networks for critical infrastructure that would be triggered by unusual activity."

Raytheon won the US$100 million contract for the first phase of Perfect Citizen, which is funded by the Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative, the Journal reported.

In a statement released late Thursday, the NSA confirmed that Perfect Citizen exists. But the spy agency called the newspaper's description "inaccurate," saying that the program is "purely a vulnerabilities-assessment and capabilities-development contract."

britjas wrote:What about compulsory military service? Didn't Hitler require it?

britjas wrote:I think it stinks when history repeats itself. But I have the quiet confidence of knowing that we are going to be the generation who will be taking a part of breaking the cycle of this evil, for light and truth will eventually prevail, for light and truth will forsake that 'evil' one.

Chip45 wrote:Regarding the video, comparing Bush (the junior) to Hitler ... let us not forget Stalin and Mao (comunism AND nazism)... let us not forget Obama ... Clinton ... so many others that have taken us down this path. Let us recognize that WE (collectively "speaking") have elected these people. Just like the nazi party candidates in the 1932 Weimar Republic election received some 40% of the votes, the largest political group in a multi-party contest. Communist party candidates were the second largest group - the majority of German people, clearly choosing one form of totalitarianism, competing kindred tyrannical systems (communists & nazis). We forget, or aren't taught, that the first 22 months of WW2, communist Russia and nazi Germany were allies! So many of our American brothers and sisters are dumbed down.

Steven Spielberg, through his popular movies, would have us believe that the only monsters of the last century were nazis.

Based on historical precedent, we contend that the major keys to soviet-style dictatorship are currently in place here in America.

In order for a dictator to rule, he/she must have, at minimum, the following three geographical and political elements in place:
1. One, or more, easily-manageable geographical regions as determined by the dictator;
2. Usurpation of the existing governmental structures by soviet-style council (or committee) members who are appointed (not elected) by the dictator and who are accountable only to him/her;
3. One, or more, military units which are accountable only to the unelected council which, in turn, is accountable only to the dictator.


Unfortunately, all the above-listed elements for a dictator to be successfully installed here in America are now in place:
1. America has been divided into ten regions as determined by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), which is an agency of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) -- a Cabinet-level position accountable only to the President;
2. On January 11, 2010, President Obama established a Council of (ten) Governors (which will presumably rule over ten regions) when he signed Executive Order Number 13528;
On July 12, 2010, the Department of Defense (DoD) announced that ten National Guard Homeland Response Force units would be assigned to the ten FEMA regions currently in place.

Further exacerbating this harrowing possibility, our State governments have been slowly weakened over time through:
• Constant federal regulation and unconstitutional federal interference;
• Acceptance of federal funds with all their time-consuming red tape and sovereignty-weakening strings attached;
• Unconstitutional federalization of the National Guard; and
• The real threat of bankruptcy in the current financial meltdown.

Dagnystar wrote:I like your first seven points of comparison, and they really made me proud to be a new member of this forum--thank you. But it drives me nuts to hear people compare evolution to ridiculous things like eugenics/social darwinism. The theory of evolution absolutely does not endorse eugenics! Eugenics is most certainly not taught by any credible school in this country. I strongly urge everybody to read the origin of species--there are so many infuriating misunderstandings.

Minor point with regards to your thoughtful post, but evolution happens to be a subject I know about.

clarkkent14 wrote:

Dagnystar wrote:I like your first seven points of comparison, and they really made me proud to be a new member of this forum--thank you. But it drives me nuts to hear people compare evolution to ridiculous things like eugenics/social darwinism. The theory of evolution absolutely does not endorse eugenics! Eugenics is most certainly not taught by any credible school in this country. I strongly urge everybody to read the origin of species--there are so many infuriating misunderstandings.

Minor point with regards to your thoughtful post, but evolution happens to be a subject I know about.

So you're saying you know about evolution? That's fine, but what do you know about Eugenics? Because evolution doesn't endorse eugenics, does not mean evolution is separate from social darwinism. People don't "compare evolution to ridiculous things like eugenics/social darwinism," because social darwinism is a product of evolution theories applied to mankind. Darwin had a lot to do with Eugenics. Planned Parenthood has proudly carried on the Eugenics tradition.

One video, among many others


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