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this is a spawn of the discussion found here http://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.ph ... 76#p138976

IF the NWO made the people get a microchip implant, as members of the church, or anyone else for that matter, who opposes that, would we even be ABLE to refuse? meaning go live somewhere not in that "society" but still in the country?

I understand that in revelations it says that we would not be able to buy without them, but if we decided to simply try and avoid it would they even allow that? i know its pure speculation, but an interesting thought, at least i think.

also

(and this may be far out) what if this does get implemented and we are told not to by the church, and instead rely on our food storage, because this would only last one year. meaning that they try it, and the microchip is there for a year after it is fully implemented and then all heck breaks loose and the world is cleansed.

interesting thought /shrug

There is no money exchanged at the Bishop's Storehouse. Secondly, in a company the company officers can open a company store and operate it exactly like the Bishop's Storehouse operates. So either the Church will operate without money for and in behalf of the members and/or we will have our own consecrated business organizations do the same. In Germany in 1923 their money was rendered useless, but their organization, the way they work with each other kept going, because of their commitment to each other. We will have to do the same.

We have the intelligence to survive the implementation of the mark of the beast. Will we use it is another question.

God Bless,
Darren

Awesome post, Darren. I have been thinking along the same lines. We have been told for years nto only to get our food storage but to learn home industry and production. I think the day is coming when we won't have paycheck jobs, we will have to find a way to contribute to our community and as a community we are going to have to produce everything that we need. We may have to defend our communities from those who do not like that we are not participating in their program. I think the Welfare program of the church is going to grow and become very central to our way of life. It won't be just for the needy, I believe it will become the engine that drives the economic aspect of our lives. That's the impressions I ahve beem getting lately, and I ahve found prophetic utterances that support that. Essentially the Church Welfare system is the seed that will grow into the United Order and living the law of consecration.

Original_Intent wrote:Awesome post, Darren. I have been thinking along the same lines. We have been told for years nto only to get our food storage but to learn home industry and production. I think the day is coming when we won't have paycheck jobs, we will have to find a way to contribute to our community and as a community we are going to have to produce everything that we need. We may have to defend our communities from those who do not like that we are not participating in their program. I think the Welfare program of the church is going to grow and become very central to our way of life. It won't be just for the needy, I believe it will become the engine that drives the economic aspect of our lives. That's the impressions I ahve beem getting lately, and I ahve found prophetic utterances that support that. Essentially the Church Welfare system is the seed that will grow into the United Order and living the law of consecration.

I think this is right. We will be reduced to home/community industry. But I don't think it will be from the mark of the beast. I'm with Cleon Skousen on that one. I don't think America will ever see the mark. There are way too many Christians who would see and recognize it for what it is and the cleansing of America going to come first imho. The end result will still be the collapse of our current system and a return to community based industry though.

Rensai wrote:I think this is right. We will be reduced to home/community industry. But I don't think it will be from the mark of the beast. I'm with Cleon Skousen on that one. I don't think America will ever see the mark. There are way too many Christians who would see and recognize it for what it is and the cleansing of America going to come first imho. The end result will still be the collapse of our current system and a return to community based industry though.

I'd be interested in seeing that quote. I take the scriptures on this one at face value and think there will be a mark. The illuminati don't care either way if we recognize the mark of the beast or not, because when it comes down to it most people will not have a choice whether or not to participate as they will either get the mark and live or deny it and die. And those that do raise a fuss about the mark will either be classed as a crazy conspiracy theorist, or worse, a terrorist. I think this is one of the main reasons the welfare system was implemented so that when the time comes we will be able to use the welfare system, along with the united order, to survive.

holyhabanero wrote:when it comes down to it most people will not have a choice whether or not to participate as they will either get the mark and live or deny it and die. And those that do raise a fuss about the mark will either be classed as a crazy conspiracy theorist, or worse, a terrorist. I think this is one of the main reasons the welfare system was implemented so that when the time comes we will be able to use the welfare system, along with the united order, to survive.

which brings us around full swing to my original question, about would we even be able to refuse it at all. Those things you mentioned were among my concerns

I would love it if we didn't see the mark here, but I don't think the influence of the "Christians" is going to keep the mark from coming. Look at how powerless we are against all of the obaminations that are going on inside our country. People are screaming about it, and no one is able to do a danged thing about it. And Christians are losing influence in a lot of areas in this country.

I mean comon, look at a lot of those on this forum that take some of the truths about what is going on and they try and tell their neighbors and friends, and they get scoffed at. It's like the crazy hermits in movies yelling about the end of the world and no one believes them. and then all of the sudden it hits and the only one not surprised is the crazy guy, haha. oops, too late!

Consider credit and debit card transactions. Most businesses do not operate online without them. Many regular businesses refuse cheques and cash and will only operate using those cards. Just part of the tracking mechanism.

I used to get a Transactions magazine that discussed electronic transfers in the bankster system. Routing numbers, etc. track your actions and the system monitors your purchasing behaviours.

"When you control the ones and zeros, you control the world". "Sneakers" movie.

pritchet1 wrote:Consider credit and debit card transactions. Most businesses do not operate online without them. Many regular businesses refuse cheques and cash and will only operate using those cards. Just part of the tracking mechanism.

I used to get a Transactions magazine that discussed electronic transfers in the bankster system. Routing numbers, etc. track your actions and the system monitors your purchasing behaviours.

"When you control the ones and zeros, you control the world". "Sneakers" movie.

oh yeah, thats a great movie hehe.

That reminds me of the time i was driving home from California to Idaho. I stopped in utah to visit family, and i went to gas up. It kept rejecting my card when i knew for a FACT i had enough in the bank to get me home!

I called the bank and they said that they suspended my funds because of suspicious activity, meaning they thought someone stole my card and went on a rode trip.

not really a big deal but it does show how they can start and stop your funds on a whim.

even scarier was that same summer in Cali when my friend went to the bank and they wouldn't let the take any money out of his account because of some issue they had had at the bank. When that happened I kinda got this sick feeling in my gut. I thought to myself how small an issue it was that the bank had had (i don't even remember what it was now) and they wouldn't give people their money!