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Hinckley and Pharaoh's Dream
Posted: July 2nd, 2010, 7:42 am
by liberty
President Hinkley spoke of this dream three times in 1998, 2001 and 2003.
I have the references for 1998 and 2001 but not for 2003 - Can someone find it for me.
Thanks, HoL
Re: Hinckley and Pharaoh's Dream
Posted: July 2nd, 2010, 8:49 am
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Re: Hinckley and Pharaoh's Dream
Posted: July 2nd, 2010, 9:10 am
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The 2005 talk was 7 years after the 1998 talk. I did not feel things change until 2007/2008.
Re: Hinckley and Pharaoh's Dream
Posted: July 2nd, 2010, 9:16 am
by Original_Intent
Mazal wrote:The 2005 talk was 7 years after the 1998 talk.
How many years after the 2001 talk was it?
Sorry, I couldn't pass that up.

Re: Hinckley and Pharaoh's Dream
Posted: July 2nd, 2010, 9:23 am
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Original_Intent wrote:Mazal wrote:The 2005 talk was 7 years after the 1998 talk.
How many years after the 2001 talk was it?
Sorry, I couldn't pass that up.


Re: Hinckley and Pharaoh's Dream
Posted: July 2nd, 2010, 10:08 am
by mattctr
An earlier thread on this topic:
http://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopi ... =2&t=11624
One quote from that thread:
The first time GBH addressed the parable of 7 years of plenty / famine was in '98. During that talk, he specifically said he wasn't prophesying. He repeated it again in Oct. 2001. Go back and read the talk and you will see that this time he DIDN'T say he wasn't prophesying. During the next 7 years we saw the greatest expasion of wealth in the history of the world. Seven years to the month (i.e. Oct 2008) the economic collape occured. Was he prophesying; was he a prophet? Absolutely!
There are several other great ideas on that thread, including one by NoGreaterLove:
In October conference 2001 he says:
“I cannot forget the great lesson of Pharaoh’s dream of the fat and lean kine and of the full and withered stalks of corn.”
“I do not believe the time is here when an all-consuming calamity will overtake us.”
In conference October 2005, his main theme was the calamities that are and will take place. Here are a couple of quotes.
“We know, of course, that the rain falls on the just as well as the unjust”
“Let us never lose sight of the dream of Pharaoh concerning the fat cattle and the lean, the full ears of corn, and the blasted ears; the meaning of which was interpreted by Joseph to indicate years of plenty and years of scarcity (see Genesis 41:1–36).”
Notice he almost commands us to never lose sight of the dream. Why so much emphasis on this dream?
The timing of 7 years difference between the 1998 talk and the 2005 talk emphasizing pharaohs dream are not coincidence. I believe 1998 was the warning of plenty and to prepare and the 2005 was the, here it is, I told you so talk.
The talk in 2001 was saying, pay attention to Pharaohs dream, but the all consuming calamity is not on us yet.
So if I am right about this, then
Oct 1998-Sept 2005 plenty
Oct 2005-Sept 2012 stormy weather
Remember he is prophet for the world, so we can not look upon this from a U.S. only perspective.
Re: Hinckley and Pharaoh's Dream
Posted: July 2nd, 2010, 10:48 am
by jonwymore
interesting that the talk was in 2001, 7 years later the stock market crashes and we enter another depression. Maybe this means from 7 years from 2008 were gonna have our years of famine meaning problems with the economy globaly.
Re: Hinckley and Pharaoh's Dream
Posted: July 2nd, 2010, 6:32 pm
by kathyn
Maybe this means from 7 years from 2008 were gonna have our years of famine meaning problems with the economy globaly.
You can bet on it, though I doubt we'll have to wait until 2015.
Re: Hinckley and Pharaoh's Dream
Posted: July 2nd, 2010, 6:57 pm
by Original_Intent
I think it is already started. We are living on "stored grain" in my opinion, it will be interesting to see if we have enough to last 7 years.
I highly doubt it. Not referring to grain literally.
Re: Hinckley and Pharaoh's Dream
Posted: July 2nd, 2010, 7:07 pm
by jonwymore
Agreed. I meant that the 7 years of plenty ended 7 years after pres. Hinckleys speech. In 2008. Meaning We entered the years of famine. And with millions now loosing unemployment bvenefits and all those people loosing the ability to spend money or pay bills I worry that the economy is about to take a serious nose dive very soon.