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Maybe they could sign up Adrian Salbuchi?

http://www.asalbuchi.com.ar/

pritchet1 wrote:Maybe they could sign up Adrian Salbuchi?

http://www.asalbuchi.com.ar/

He's a good one for truth and awareness too. I've been watching a new guy on youtube who does a 4-5 minute video each week about the economy, finance and global politics. His name is Charlie McGrath. Anyone seen his stuff yet? I think he started out as an average guy with a computer and video camera who started making these short videos and uploading them to youtube and now he's on some very popular alternative news sites and even has his own website and radio show with featured, well-known guests. He does a great job of simply giving people the cold, hard truth about what is going on (in fact, he even had Salbuchi on his radio show recently).

holyhabanero wrote:

mattctr wrote:Maybe the ldsliberty folks could fill the time slot. 8)

Anything has to be better than Hannity, but the LDSLiberty folks really turned me off with their take on Immigration last week, which was way off the mark doctrinally, and logically.

Totally agree on that. There has to be order between nations. Throwing the doors wide open is incorrect interpretation of the BOM. When mexico is righteous we can talk about doing that!

Col. Flagg wrote:

pjbrownie wrote:I know too many people that take the right wing gospel as proposed by Sean Hannity because he's on KSL. Good riddance to bad rubbish, I mean, er, a "great American" like Sean Hannity. He's the biggest water carrier for the GOP.

Hannity is nothing but a money-sucking opportunist and right-wing nut. He wouldn't know the truth or speak it if it hit him in the face and when he came to Salt Lake a few years back to 'debate' Mayor Rocky Anderson, he showed up totally unprepared with only a few videos of soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan and got schooled by Rocky, but he was laughing all the way to the bank! He's a closet Patriot and is nothing but a yes man for the red party.

Yes, I saw that video of the debate and Rocky (who I normally despise) spritzed his time piece (cleaned his clock). Hannity is such a shill. Cant stand him.

Regardless of how you feel about Sean Hannity, KSL has been taken over by bleeding heart liberals or communists or socialists or whatever label you choose to put on them. They do not have true freedom as their goal, but rather collectivism as their goal. I should have known when they dismantled their Washington D.C. bureau (I'm sure it was shut down because of a lack of news right, nothing happening there). Now they fill each day with "news" which is the equivilant of junk food, sensational, yet having no affect on any one but those few involved. Unlike important things that are going on that affect this nation as a whole. Doug Right ( or as he is known around here Doug Left. Actually he is a stand for nothing moderate) is the most prominent miscreant. It was painfully obvious during the last few days before Ronny Lee Gardner's execution. In almost each "story" the emphasis was on the poor murderer and not the victims or family's affected by their murders. Their news coverage of the Republican primaries and Bob Bennett is another example. Examples can be given however on a daily basis.

p51-mustang wrote:

holyhabanero wrote:

mattctr wrote:Maybe the ldsliberty folks could fill the time slot. 8)

Anything has to be better than Hannity, but the LDSLiberty folks really turned me off with their take on Immigration last week, which was way off the mark doctrinally, and logically.

Totally agree on that. There has to be order between nations. Throwing the doors wide open is incorrect interpretation of the BOM. When mexico is righteous we can talk about doing that!

I didn't agree with everything they said either, but if you listen to enough of their shows, you'll probably find yourself agreeing with much of what they talk about. If not, at least it is refreshing to here people talking about approaching principles -- even if they need a little fine tuning on their approach. (I'll stop my hijacking now)

The Hannitized will still get to hear him. Now, if we can only get them to oust Doug Wright (Okay, I don't mind if he keeps his lame movie show, but the rest is ridiculous in my prideful opinion.)

JerL wrote:Regardless of how you feel about Sean Hannity, KSL has been taken over by bleeding heart liberals or communists or socialists or whatever label you choose to put on them. They do not have true freedom as their goal, but rather collectivism as their goal. I should have known when they dismantled their Washington D.C. bureau (I'm sure it was shut down because of a lack of news right, nothing happening there). Now they fill each day with "news" which is the equivilant of junk food, sensational, yet having no affect on any one but those few involved. Unlike important things that are going on that affect this nation as a whole. Doug Right ( or as he is known around here Doug Left. Actually he is a stand for nothing moderate) is the most prominent miscreant. It was painfully obvious during the last few days before Ronny Lee Gardner's execution. In almost each "story" the emphasis was on the poor murderer and not the victims or family's affected by their murders. Their news coverage of the Republican primaries and Bob Bennett is another example. Examples can be given however on a daily basis.

All of the local news outlets (channels 2, 4, 5 and 13) rarely report anymore on anything of real substance or value to the public and heaven forbid the ugly truths we all know about should get any pub! The last bastion of real truth and news can only be found in the alternative media, sadly. Even the newspapers are full of irrelevant stories that pass for 'news'. The problem is that most, if not all, are controlled by other interests who do not have our interests or the real truth in mind... just distractionary crap that will pacify people to keep them in the dark about what is truly happening and the awful truths in our world.

Gotta agree Col Flagg.

However, I have found that the British press is fatastic on reporting on American politics. The American press seems to have tried to adapt their news to the "Inside Edition" audience so they treat the public as lesser-educated folk who just want to be entertained with really short stories, and glitzy features.

At least the British press has refused to dumb down, and while there is a left-leaning tilt to the BBC and The Guardian their news is far superior to anything in the USA. Of course, if you examine the British news links at Drudge you can choose far more conservative sources as well.

Face it, Americans are declining -- many people see "Twighlight" as artistic and deep, and who would have guessed that the premier investigative newspaper would be the national Enquirer -- not that the NYT has ever been better than them.

Man you people are amazing.....
Hannity is one of the most "charactered" people on the talk radio circuit when it comes to politics. He's very kind, very respectful, etc.

Further, read the article your quoting from?
The article says "according to a BLOGGER".
Since when does a blogger, likely a liberal one at that designate the facts, especially in this issue?

I'm very disappointed in those who are making this decision in this way if true, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's a liberal in the power making the decision.

Church owned doesn't mean "church ran" people.

leeuniverse wrote:Man you people are amazing.....
Hannity is one of the most "charactered" people on the talk radio circuit when it comes to politics. He's very kind, very respectful, etc.

Further, read the article your quoting from?
The article says "according to a BLOGGER".
Since when does a blogger, likely a liberal one at that designate the facts, especially in this issue?

I'm very disappointed in those who are making this decision in this way if true, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's a liberal in the power making the decision.

Church owned doesn't mean "church ran" people.

"Get off the phone you big dope!"

Hannity's rants of all the talk shows guys are rarely ever thought out, are repetitive, and calls into question people's Americanism. Hannity's views are often shared by myself, but his way of discussing them seemed patented right out of the GOP talking points and he argues them on such a surface level that it's hard to dig deeper with him. Granted, Beck can be just as strident with his guests. Rush, I find to be the most kind to his disagreeing guests. Hannity is the worst offender.

Mosby wrote:Nor does Beck with his constant profanity (he cusses more than Hannity) and his use of mocking and sexual innuendo ..........but I doubt the same will be said about him

I find it so funny that these are the reasons they say Hannity doesn't fit in with LDS Values.

Not his grossly immoral and violent positions on war and use of force towards peaceful people.

pjbrownie wrote:
"Get off the phone you big dope!"

Hannity's rants of all the talk shows guys are rarely ever thought out, are repetitive, and calls into question people's Americanism. Hannity's views are often shared by myself, but his way of discussing them seemed patented right out of the GOP talking points and he argues them on such a surface level that it's hard to dig deeper with him. Granted, Beck can be just as strident with his guests. Rush, I find to be the most kind to his disagreeing guests. Hannity is the worst offender.

Uh buddy..... You are confusing "Mark Levin" with Sean Hannity.

Honestly, I don't think you guys know anything you're talking about.

In Conservative Radio I've listened to basically everyone, and the only ones that really cross the line morally speaking and of character that I can think of off hand, are Alex Jones, Michael Savage, and to a degree Mark Levin.

Sean Hannity is likely the most nicest and kindest and most charactered of ANY of the hosts, including Glenn Beck.
You guys don't know a thing what you are talking about, or are clearly so deceived by the dark side you have become numb to how an actual righteous person acts and talks like.

Lee, your devotion to party shines so bright it is almost blinding. ALL radio talk show host are amen chorus' and very demeaning to anyone that dares to go against the party line. Your blindness to this is blaring.

Try and experiment. Next time you listen to one of these guys (take Sean for example), take your party hat off (if you can) and just listen. Listen for principle equally applied, listen for how they teat people who disagree, just listen.

I am not picking any sides here. it is the nature of the game. Pick ANY, and I mean any political talk radio host and it is some of the least Spirit conducive mediums out there.

Turn off the radio and listen to BYU talks by Benson, McKay, Marion Romney, or Clark, or the audio scriptures. You will start to see through this tyrannical bull that is being spewed to us by the WWE (WWF in my day) acting known as talk radio, CNN, Fox news, MSNBC, etc, etc, etc.

Whenever I hear Sean Hannity on the radio, it's always the basic, partisan talking points that he gets from his boss. He then goes off on a rant that the democrats are "using partisan politics". All incredibly hypocritical, harping on democrats for doing exactly what president bush was doing for a whole eight years. People try and call him out on it and he just hangs up on them. To me, he is incapable of thinking outside the box. If you were to tune in the middle of his show and not know who Hannity was and not hear the whole conversation, you'd think he might even be a liberal criticizing a conservative... I'm sure that lefty talk shows are using the same interchangeable words to criticize the opposite party.

Geeswell wrote:Good feedback, thanks all. I guess I better fiend a better source to get info. The scriptures are great, and I agree I should use them more. However, I don't see how they are going to help me know when someone is lying about a certain issue happening right now.

thats what I've listened to the talk shows for; for info on the schemes, and being able to see the bigger picture. I guess they could be lying about the bigger picture too...

wow good thing I have you guys/gals

Just stick around here and you'll get blasted with "the truth" more than you can stand. The people who frequent this board know everything, and those who disagree know absolutely nothing about nothin'. Why look anywhere else? Just sit pat and become a zealot... I mean "wake up" like the know-it-alls here. You're in good hands. They'll teach you from a completely objective perspective. They've been a learnin this stuff for years and will teach you good. Just believe everything they say and question nothing. Eventually you'll understand it all. Ooh, and it helps if you learn to 1) distort each and every scripture to say whatever it is you want them to 2) question church leadership as much as possible, almost to the point of all out calling them corrupt, but walking a fine line so you don't get kicked off the board.

JMarsigli wrote:become a zealot...

What is a "zealot"? Seriously, what is your definition of "zealot"?

JMarsigli wrote: 2) question church leadership as much as possible, almost to the point of all out calling them corrupt, but walking a fine line so you don't get kicked off the board.

Who does that? If you are going to make a blanket accusation like that, it must be a large plurality of the people here. Let's have some examples of who the apostates here are. Come on. You have been warned who they are, now please, warn your neighbor.

JMarsigli wrote:

Geeswell wrote:Good feedback, thanks all. I guess I better fiend a better source to get info. The scriptures are great, and I agree I should use them more. However, I don't see how they are going to help me know when someone is lying about a certain issue happening right now.

thats what I've listened to the talk shows for; for info on the schemes, and being able to see the bigger picture. I guess they could be lying about the bigger picture too...

wow good thing I have you guys/gals

Just stick around here and you'll get blasted with "the truth" more than you can stand. The people who frequent this board know everything, and those who disagree know absolutely nothing about nothin'. Why look anywhere else? Just sit pat and become a zealot... I mean "wake up" like the know-it-alls here. You're in good hands. They'll teach you from a completely objective perspective. They've been a learnin this stuff for years and will teach you good. Just believe everything they say and question nothing. Eventually you'll understand it all. Ooh, and it helps if you learn to 1) distort each and every scripture to say whatever it is you want them to 2) question church leadership as much as possible, almost to the point of all out calling them corrupt, but walking a fine line so you don't get kicked off the board.

- JMarsigli

You forgot number three - 3) Complain about how all the members are asleep except for you and because of this you dare not share your thoughts in church because people think you are wack.

e-eye wrote:

JMarsigli wrote:

Geeswell wrote:Good feedback, thanks all. I guess I better fiend a better source to get info. The scriptures are great, and I agree I should use them more. However, I don't see how they are going to help me know when someone is lying about a certain issue happening right now.

thats what I've listened to the talk shows for; for info on the schemes, and being able to see the bigger picture. I guess they could be lying about the bigger picture too...

wow good thing I have you guys/gals

Just stick around here and you'll get blasted with "the truth" more than you can stand. The people who frequent this board know everything, and those who disagree know absolutely nothing about nothin'. Why look anywhere else? Just sit pat and become a zealot... I mean "wake up" like the know-it-alls here. You're in good hands. They'll teach you from a completely objective perspective. They've been a learnin this stuff for years and will teach you good. Just believe everything they say and question nothing. Eventually you'll understand it all. Ooh, and it helps if you learn to 1) distort each and every scripture to say whatever it is you want them to 2) question church leadership as much as possible, almost to the point of all out calling them corrupt, but walking a fine line so you don't get kicked off the board.

- JMarsigli

You forgot number three - 3) Complain about how all the members are asleep except for you and because of this you dare not share your thoughts in church because people think you are wack.

99% of them, I'd say, are neocons.