Still think Beck's a "freedom Fighter"? - he did it again

[Mosby]

Ok, I will be the first to say that I'm no fan of J. D Hayworth (or for that matter anyone else in the clothing of a Republican) - BUT, he's a far better candidate than John McCain.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010 ... n+Central)

So the obvious question: Why did Beck torpedo him this morning? With Beck's fawning LDS audience and the sheer amount of LDS folks (and non-LDS who adore him) in Arizona- this is a death-blow to Hayworth's campaign. .......................guess who wins now?????

McCAIN

Let's see if we can put a few things together here:

1. Beck says "he's no fan of McCain", yet savages his opponent's campaign
2. Beck has said numerous times that "McCain is an honorable man"- yeah. I know that's funny, ask his ex-wife about that
3. Beck gives an open forum to Sarah Palin on his show.............and Sarah endorses who???? yes that's right- McCAIN
4. Foxnews???? anyone?? 5. McCain is the establishment candidate- enough said!

I see a pattern here..............anyone care to defend Beck's torpedo attack? It only serves to benefit the "establishment" candidate.

With McCain's voting record and history it would be very,very easy to "torpedo" Johnny boy- especially if you are on the side of Liberty - so why hasn't Beck done it yet?

.................crickets chirping

[Jason]

Beck is a good closer when the PTB are in a pinch!

[Original_Intent]

In all fairness, Beck may have put Mike Lee over the top based on him ripping into Bridgewater the day before the election. It almost makes me worry that I voted for the wrong guy!

But yeah, supporting McCain does not match his talk.

[Jason]

In all fairness, Beck may have put Mike Lee over the top based on him ripping into Bridgewater the day before the election. It almost makes me worry that I voted for the wrong guy!

But yeah, supporting McCain does not match his talk.

Yeah hope I didn't make a bad call with Lee.....

[Mosby]

Beck is a good closer when the PTB are in a pinch!

Kinda funny how just out of blue Beck drops the bomb on J.D - when McCain needs it the most.

Also funny how Beck announces that "I think we can say that J.D Hayworth's career is over today".............before the voters of Arizona have had their say.

Why is it over Glenn? Because you say so? Or because your masters at Fox say so...........

How about it's "over" when the voters say it's "over" - that's how we do it in America Glenn......

[LukeAir2008]

I cant believe that either of you guys were ever taken in by Brother Beck's charade. I certainly wasn't. Beware of men (or women) that can cry on cue. He's a highly paid actor not a political commentator. Alex Jones did warn us that he was just impersonating a Conservative and then he would eventually sell out all those who trusted him. I will say his performances have been pretty good recently. Almost...almost...believable!

I can hear the sound of horses hooves! It must be Ernest and Needle Head Ned riding in to protect his (fake) honor!

[Mosby]

I cant believe that either of you guys were ever taken in by Brother Beck's charade. I certainly wasn't. Beware of men (or women) that can cry on cue. He's a highly paid actor not a political commentator. Alex Jones did warn us that he was just impersonating a Conservative and then he would eventually sell out all those who trusted him. I will say his performances have been pretty good recently. Almost...almost...believable!

Never fooled brother Luke, just baffled at how many have been taken in by his act.

It seems I can rarely attend a church meeting without someone quoting "Brother Beck"

[sbsion]

[Yeah hope I didn't make a bad call with Lee.....

HE IS A LAWYER............enough said

[sbsion]

what would you expect for one who works for...........well, ya know... Protocal: "...we shall lead the opposition..."

[JMarsigli]

In all fairness, Beck may have put Mike Lee over the top based on him ripping into Bridgewater the day before the election. It almost makes me worry that I voted for the wrong guy!

But yeah, supporting McCain does not match his talk.

My first thoughts exactly.

And how about giving us some more details on the other fellow so we can make an informed decision.

[Mark]

Beck is a good closer when the PTB are in a pinch!

Kinda funny how just out of blue Beck drops the bomb on J.D - when McCain needs it the most.

Also funny how Beck announces that "I think we can say that J.D Hayworth's career is over today".............before the voters of Arizona have had their say.

Why is it over Glenn? Because you say so? Or because your masters at Fox say so...........

How about it's "over" when the voters say it's "over" - that's how we do it in America Glenn......

Before going into a lather on this why don't you give us the context of the beatdown. I have no clue what you are talking about here. What did Hayworth do or say that set off Beck?

[Mosby]

Sorry Mark, I forgot to put the link in - I've fixed it on my first post, and here it is as well:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010 ... n+Central)


I will remove my hat for your forthcoming beat-down

[JMarsigli]

Never mind, just watched the vid. So, let me get this straight. You've got a bur under your saddle because Glenn Beck did a segment ranting about a US Congressman doing an infomercial about how you can get free government cheese? How terrible! I mean, railing on a member of the US Congress for promoting socialism is obviously the work of the NWO.

I'm guessing you just don't like Glenn Beck and are looking for every excuse possible to hate and smear him. Great attitude.

[Mosby]

Never mind, just watched the vid. So, let me get this straight. You've got a bur under your saddle because Glenn Beck did a segment ranting about a US Congressman doing an infomercial about how you can get free government cheese? How terrible! I mean, railing on a member of the US Congress for promoting socialism is obviously the work of the NWO.

I'm guessing you just don't like Glenn Beck and are looking for every excuse possible to hate and smear him. Great attitude.

No, I don't hate Beck- but nice try at the association. I would love it more than anyone if Beck would "step up to the plate" on his talk- but he doesn't.

I'm no fan of Hayworth, but believe that he's about far a better candidate than McCain- It's just curious to me that Beck hasn't chosen to attack McCain and announce to America that "John McCains caimpaign is over" - he's a far bigger NWO guy and socialist than Hayworth could have ever dreamed of being.

Now JMarsigli, please tell me why Glenn Beck the "libertarian" hasn't found anything wrong with John McCain's campaign yet? Anything that he could announce to America and wreck McCain's campaign?

[JMarsigli]

I may be wrong but I think you're trying to find something that's not there. I don't know why he does every single thing he does. Maybe he's a little upset that the Tea Party candidate is a phony. Maybe he feels deceived and aired his frustration. Glenn Beck did a lot to jump start the movement, and probably takes it pretty seriously when a Trojan horse gets inside. Wouldn't you?

Do you want him to state John McCain's campaign is over? I bet he'd love to. But let's look at the facts. People know who McCain is and what he stands for. If that's not enough then what is a proclamation from Glenn Beck going to do?

[Mark]

Never mind, just watched the vid. So, let me get this straight. You've got a bur under your saddle because Glenn Beck did a segment ranting about a US Congressman doing an infomercial about how you can get free government cheese? How terrible! I mean, railing on a member of the US Congress for promoting socialism is obviously the work of the NWO.

I'm guessing you just don't like Glenn Beck and are looking for every excuse possible to hate and smear him. Great attitude.

No, I don't hate Beck- but nice try at the association. I would love it more than anyone if Beck would "step up to the plate" on his talk- but he doesn't.

I'm no fan of Hayworth, but believe that he's about far a better candidate than McCain- It's just curious to me that Beck hasn't chosen to attack McCain and announce to America that "John McCains caimpaign is over" - he's a far bigger NWO guy and socialist than Hayworth could have ever dreamed of being.

Now JMarsigli, please tell me why Glenn Beck the "libertarian" hasn't found anything wrong with John McCain's campaign yet? Anything that he could announce to America and wreck McCain's campaign?

Mosby did you listen to the entire clip? Beck says at the end that McCain is a nightmare. I thought you didn't like to vote for the lesser of two evils? So Beck gets on Hayworth for portraying himself as the conservative tea party candidate yet He goes on the radio in the past huckstering the socialist policy of partaking of the spoils and Beck is the one you go after?

[Mosby]

Do you want him to state John McCain's campaign is over? I bet he'd love to

Then why doesn't he do it? He has no problem destroying Hayworth- but he can't do the same for a man (McCain) who has a HORRIFIC voting record and IS the very definetion of a modern "Gadianton Robber"

Beck had no problem calling Ron Paul a Kook during his run, blind-siding Debra Medina on air during her campaign - and now the attack on Hayworth.

One thing stands out here- all of these folks who got the smack-down by Beck were running against the PTB candidate- but I'm sure that's just a mere coincidence- right?

[Mosby]

Mosby did you listen to the entire clip? Beck says at the end that McCain is a nightmare. I thought you didn't like to vote for the lesser of two evils? So Beck gets on Hayworth for portraying himself as the conservative tea party candidate yet He goes on the radio in the past huckstering the socialist policy of partaking of the spoils and Beck is the one you go after?

Mark, it would be easier for you to see Beck for what he truly is, if you would just take down your personalized, hand signed, numbered "Faith, Hope, and Charity" poster that you just bought off of www.glenbeck.com for the low cost of $99.95.......


Oh yeah, did you know that gold has out performed the stock market over the last 10 years................

[Mark]

Mosby did you listen to the entire clip? Beck says at the end that McCain is a nightmare. I thought you didn't like to vote for the lesser of two evils? So Beck gets on Hayworth for portraying himself as the conservative tea party candidate yet He goes on the radio in the past huckstering the socialist policy of partaking of the spoils and Beck is the one you go after?

Mark, it would be easier for you to see Beck for what he truly is, if you would just take down your personalized, hand signed, numbered "Faith, Hope, and Charity" poster that you just bought off of http://www.glenbeck.com for the low cost of $99.95.......


Oh yeah, did you know that gold has out performed the stock market over the last 10 years................

Your attack on Beck here was unwarranted yet you clink to the demonization card even though it is clear that Beck was just exposing Hayworth as a hypocrite when it comes to constitutional principles by showing clearly that He advocated the partaking of the spoils of govt larceny. Yet whats sad is you continue to defend those attacks against Beck because of pride. Man up Bro and admit you were wrong here and misjudged Beck in this case . Otherwise you are no better than those you demonize.

[JMarsigli]

Oh yeah, did you know that gold has out performed the stock market over the last 10 years................

Mosby, as crazy as I think you sound at times, I have to admit you've got a great sense of humor!

Maybe someday I'll start ranting about everyone's favorite Keynesian Ronald Reagan so we can bond a little you and I.

[Mosby]

Mosby, as crazy as I think you sound at times, I have to admit you've got a great sense of humor!

Maybe someday I'll start ranting about everyone's favorite Keynesian Ronald Reagan so we can bond a little you and I.

I would like that, thanks for seeing the humor instead of hate

[Mosby]

Your attack on Beck here was unwarranted yet you clink to the demonization card even though it is clear that Beck was just exposing Hayworth as a hypocrite when it comes to constitutional principles by showing clearly that He advocated the partaking of the spoils of govt larceny. Yet whats sad is you continue to defend those attacks against Beck because of pride. Man up Bro and admit you were wrong here and misjudged Beck in this case . Otherwise you are no better than those you demonize.

Well Mark, I guess this means the honeymoon is over- oh well, it was fun while it lasted

One day when you finally figure out that Beck is in it for the $$$$$ and not the "liberty" angle of it, I will be tempted to tell you "I told you so"..........but what will be the point then?

Gotta run, training for an MMA fight, reading a few Lois Lamour books, and getting a flaming skull tatoo so I can "man up"

[Original_Intent]

Just as an interesting footnote: The same story got posted on the Ron Paul forums, and thought it may be possible to imagine, they tend to be even more "anti-Beck" than LDSFF. I know, hard to believe.

Anyway, someone posted it trying to get the Beck flames going, but it was met with a collective yawm. everyone says Hayworth is no liberty candidate and deserved everything Beck gave him.

As has been stated, McCain is at least a known quantity, albeit a bad one. And I am not saying vote for McCain! But I am saying I could understand Beck going after someone who was trying to fake it as a liberty candidate if he found out otherwise. And that still doesn't change the way he treated Debra Medina and before that, Ron Paul. But it really seems like this should not be counted as Beck's "third strike".

[Quiet Cricket]

As has been stated, McCain is at least a known quantity, albeit a bad one.

I think McCain's seniority gives him more power. Get a so-so guy in there with little party influence I say. I haven't looked into this too much, but if this ends up helping McCain win, Beck is an idiot. He could use his influence to help the freedom movement. Just because you know or think something doesn't mean you have to say it instantly, wait for the best time to talk.

At some point to have to think that people in power or with influence are either stupid or corrupt. In a lot of ways I think Beck acts stupidly, but maybe he's just corrupt. I can see it both ways.

[Mark]

But I am saying I could understand Beck going after someone who was trying to fake it as a liberty candidate if he found out otherwise. And that still doesn't change the way he treated Debra Medina and before that, Ron Paul. But it really seems like this should not be counted as Beck's "third strike".

Thank you OI. That was precisely my point. Hayworth wraps himself up in the anti socialist pro liberty tea party movement then come to find out He advocated exactly what He now says is distastefully Obama-like. I am tired of hypocrites in politics who say what people want to hear but will sell out any principles for money or power. It appears that Hayworth basically did just that in this case. I would like to hear from Hayworth why he was advocating partaking of the spoils any chance you can but apparently he refused comment. Why shouldn't Beck question him about this apparent hypocrisy? But instead its that rich money making Beck who is the demon here. How dare he make so much money! Dirty rich people.