Overton Window

[Mosby]

Was George Washington born on American soil?

Natasha- the amazing thing about the internet is that it allows you in an instant - to "fact check" before you say something stupid. Being a native Virginian I laughed out loud when I read your post, it would seem that almost everyone except you knows that George Washington was born in the Old Dominion. But that does explain some of your posts, I've included a link for your study in regards to future posts.


http://www.mountvernon.org/learn/meet_g ... cfm/ss/21/

BTW- "Westmoreland County, Virginia" is in America.

[pjbrownie]

Glenn Beck is not a wolf in sheeps clothing as has been suggested on this forum. Which isn't to say that he is a FOX in sheeps clothing--a paid 50 million dollar a year FOX mind you.

How about a sheep in FOX clothing. It's a possibility. Who's playing who here?

[kathyn]

I have now read half of "The Overton Window" and it leaves little doubt that Glenn Beck knows a lot more than he is able to share with his viewers. He is doing everything possible to warn Americans about what is coming and why. I really don't understand the hate so many have for him. He is doing all he can to awaken people to the LDGs. So he works for Fox News....big deal! So he makes a lot of money....again, big deal. That doesn't automatically make him one of the bad guys. I'm grateful he does have a wide audience because they are learning a lot from him. He is teaching the Constitution and the Founding Fathers. What is wrong with that? He is not teaching conspiracy theories because there is a real danger that a lot of them have been created by the very LDGs that we love to hate. From reading other sources....Ken Bowers, for one...we know that the gov't does infiltrate groups and tries to foment riots so that the gov't can step in and remove even more freedoms. It happened in the 60's and it's happening now.

I urge you to read "Overton Window" and then see where you stand on Beck.

[natasha]

Was George Washington born on American soil?

Natasha- the amazing thing about the internet is that it allows you in an instant - to "fact check" before you say something stupid. Being a native Virginian I laughed out loud when I read your post, it would seem that almost everyone except you knows that George Washington was born in the Old Dominion. But that does explain some of your posts, I've included a link for your study in regards to future posts.


http://www.mountvernon.org/learn/meet_g ... cfm/ss/21/

BTW- "Westmoreland County, Virginia" is in America.

Mosby: Thanks for being so very unkind! Perhaps I was unclear...but not stupid as you suggest. I KNOW exactly where George Washington was born and in what year...1732. I use him as an example when I am teaching genealogy classes and we are discussing the double dating system and why it is used for dates prior to 1752...(if you are interested it has to do with the switch in calendars that we use!) When George was born there was no United States of America. And if YOU will do some research you will find that being "born on American soil" is NOT a requirement. Again, it has to do with the citizenship of parents or one parent. Now, having said all that....I am sorry that you have to continually belittle people who give an opinion different than yours. I doubt seriously you would say some of the things you do in response to people if we were in a Gospel Doctrine class. Why do you do that, Mosby? I'm a sister in the Gospel and if nothing else am entitled to my opinion without ridicule. You can simply state where you think I have erred and leave it go at that...then the ball is in my court. Now, so that you will not now accuse me of being "holier than thou"....have I ever been unkind or mispoken? Yes, I have....and have always been sorry for it....so much so that it usually takes something to have gone on for so long before I finally jump at somebody. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and will assume you were having a bad day and hope you have some better ones. In the mean time, find another whipping post because I'm out of here.

[kathyn]

Natasha, good remarks! It's one thing to state our opinions, but it's quite another to belittle others with snide remarks. Sadly, we take the excuse of anonymity to be sarcastic and rude. I am a faithful sister in the Gospel, too, btw and I hope that's always the case.

[Mosby]

Was George Washington born on American soil?

When George was born there was no United States of America. And if YOU will do some research you will find that being "born on American soil" is NOT a requirement. Again, it has to do with the citizenship of parents or one parent

True, there was no "United States of America" - but that's not what you said- you asked "was George Washington born on American soil"? - The answer is yes.

I did not say one word about anything else you said, so all your endless debate about citizenship and julian calenders doesn't apply here.

If someone said that George Washington wasn't born in America in gospel doctrine class I would gently correct that falicy.

Here's the deal Natasha - You are correct, NONE of us are as blunt or direct in person as we are on the internet- is that wrong? Yes and no, being direct has good and bad points. Could I be better- Definetly, should I be better - most definetly.

However- you along with others on this forum like to play the "victim" game you accuse others of being un Christlike (Mitt Romney link/Bob) and everything under the sun relating to their own walk with Christ- then you cry the blues when someone like myself calls you out on it.

I make no bones about my behaviour of on-line dialogue- it's not for the easily offended or the faint of heart. I consider Liberty, Freedom and Gospel serious business, and will strive to defend it's principles. I don't fain offense everytime someone calls me on the table like you and others do. I just admit that you may be correct and I need to adjust my attitude and repent and move on with life instead of being a victim and being offended.

[mattctr]

I urge you to read "Overton Window" and then see where you stand on Beck.

You make a valid point here. Maybe the library has a copy I can borrow.

I think my general distrust of Beck doesn't stem from his working for Faux (Judge N. and others do just fine there) or making money, but it stems from his stance on terrorism, American aggressions overseas, de-facto opposition to /neglect of Ron Paul during the '08 election cycle, and his flippant labeling of Paul supporters (those who helped spark the call for freedom across America before Beck was on board) as "terrorists." However, all that said, I am happy to hear that most of his current advice and content seems positive, and he definitely has a platform like no other. We should let people (even Beck) wake up, but we should never become the "Amen - people" to anyone but our prophet.

Thanks for the reasonable suggestion.