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According to mothers' reports, teens raised by lesbian mothers "were rated significantly higher in social, school/academic, and total competence" measures, the authors said. The lesbian-raised teens also scored "significantly lower" than the mom-and-dad-raised teens in "problem" categories, such as social behaviors, rule-breaking and acting out.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... well-adju/

Of course the conventional wisdom one hears about from the media might be that two women can raise a child as well as a man and woman. And this study might even make it sound as if two women can raise children better. Yet that might be a faulty conclusion.

How did these women get kids? Probably through donations. And if one explores the internet for these survices you will find tht many promote the idea that their donors are the best in health, looks and genetics (many reqauire not only physical examinations, but proof of family health going back three generations). If that is not eugenic, what is? It would be as if you could look over a young adult ward, examine each male for his intelligence, health, etc. and then assign the best five or six to be polygamist and divide all the young women in the ward. Scientifically you would undoubtedly wind up with above average children being produced.

Now on top of that, I would guess that the women in these studies are probably of the upper and middle class, and stress education. So what else might we expect from such studies?

The purpose of this thread is not about donations (that was argued here last week) but on eugenics, polygamy and maybe how one can skew the conclusions of a study. Any thoughts on this?

I'll even throw in an aspect that you overlooked. The point is made that lesbian raised teens scored lower in "problem" categories such as social behaviors, rule breaking and acting out.

These a re problem behaviors to an authoritarian mindset. Women tend to be more compliant, less independent, more submissive to authority. So these results I would say are heavily slanted by determining what "good behavior" they were scoring for.

I'll bet on the other hand if they tested for independent thinking, or measured the "bad" behavior of folding to peer pressure, or if you measure being willing to challenge authority on principle - well obviously based on what they have already stated, the lesbian raised kids are going to do worse (since they are the very behaviors that the study labelled as "bad".)

Even look at the categories at the beginning of the quote.

significantly higher in social, school/academic, and total competence" measures

. Again, whose measures? These are vague and broad categories. I've already demonstrated the fallacy of the social argument - school/academic OK again how was this evaluated? "total competence" - defined by what standard and who determined the standards?

Very valid points as well Original_Intent. Ever notice that whenever there is a documentary or such on polygamist families the news people always note that the kids have great manners? Maybe women are far more likely to stress such things. So whether you have two women married to one man, or two women living as lesbians, perhaps you have the same effect -- in regards to treating others "nice" and the like.

On the other issues I will stick to my original hypothesis that these women are getting inseminated by men who have excelled in academics, are healthy/athletic and are even screened for good looks. That is certainly going to have an effect.