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Dumitru Duduman, America to burn.

Posted: June 15th, 2010, 11:13 am
by friendsofthe
Yesterday I came across information about Dumitru Duduman who claimed to have had a vision of America being burned by atomic weapons. I watched several you tube videos and read other materials about him. I found it very interesting to say the least. You can see one of the videos here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fGq279m ... re=related

What do you think? Will America burn?

Re: Dumitru Duduman, America to burn.

Posted: June 15th, 2010, 11:43 am
by dconrad000
...regarding Dumitru Duduman...

...some of what the man says rings true -- and correlates with what we know to expect from ancient and modern-day prophesy, as given from true modern-day prophets (see Roger K Young's, "As A Thief In The Night"; and "Behold The Fig Tree" -- which contains compilations of various of those).

...but here is where I would caution you with the man:

If you watch enough of his video presentations, you will come to a point where he is telling about how he called the "Mormons" to repentance for their belief in another book besides the Bible -- the Book of Mormon...that the "Mormons" had been deceived by the devil -- that they must turn away from the Book of Mormon and all other deceptions, and look only to the Bible (I am paraphrasing).

I previously have given this some thought and had come to the following conclusion:

I think he was a good man that was not visited by a true angel -- but by one from the side of darkness, disguised as an angel of light. He relates that he was visited by an angel that called himself Gabriel. He has a very compelling story -- relates a lot of truth and goodness...but in the end, I feel that he was and is an instrument of the devil -- able to counterfeit a lot of truth and apparent good -- but in the end, he testified to countless thousands of Christian Americans -- all across America (and continues to do so, even now that he is dead -- via video) -- in such a manner that extremely strongly and powerfully reinforced/reinforces the falsehood that the true Church of Jesus Christ (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) was/is an evil deception, and to be avoided.

Re: Dumitru Duduman, America to burn.

Posted: June 15th, 2010, 1:18 pm
by friendsofthe
Yes I did hear what he said about Mormons and the Book of Mormon. I took that with a grain of salt, just felt that he was sent to testify to those who do not at present accept the restored gospel and would not accept the warnings contained in the BOM and D&C but are good people and do accept the bible and Christ. Apparently, Dumitru was rather well accepted by the non LDS Christian community. He had a common perspective with them and they would listen to him. You remember that before his conversion, Paul didn’t have much good to say about Christians and even persecuted them. So I’m inclined to take a charitable view towards this good man from Romania. Other than what he said about Mormons, I felt his message was quite consistent with my own views about the future of America.

Re: Dumitru Duduman, America to burn.

Posted: June 15th, 2010, 1:39 pm
by dconrad000
I have a charitable view towards him as well, in that I believe he was a good man...

...but that he was, however deceived by an angel from the dark-side, posing as an angel of light.

As you dig a little deeper, as I recall -- he claims that the angel also testified against the "Mormons".

Where he ultimately leads truth-seeking people -- is away from the truth.

...and so I feel that my view of him is charitable...that he was a good man...but that he was deceived in some key areas -- and ultimately has been used as a tool of the adversary to reinforce in many good Christian's minds -- that the real Church of Christ is not real.

...and before this man had come along, any good Christian already had understood the other part of his message -- the need to repent and live a righteous, Christ-like life.

Re: Dumitru Duduman, America to burn.

Posted: June 15th, 2010, 1:45 pm
by dconrad000
...and one more little point...

Paul was converted to the true church after his vision...this good man continued to denounce the true church after his.

...and yes -- thousands upon thousands of good Christians hang upon this man's every word -- especially the part where he denounces the true Church of Christ.

...in other words...even a good man that might ultimately wind up in the Celestial Kingdom one day in the next world...can honestly be deceived and used as a tool by the adversary in this life -- to keep many thousands from the real truth.

...so the question is, sent -- but sent by whom? ...I do not believe by God -- if so, he would have at least been silent regarding God's true Church while delivering the rest of his message.

Re: Dumitru Duduman, America to burn.

Posted: June 15th, 2010, 3:08 pm
by friendsofthe
Dconrad000, you have apparently looked into the situation deeper than I have so I’m not inclined to disagree with you based on what I know. I just thought that his message that America was headed for trouble and needed to repent was pretty much on the mark.

Re: Dumitru Duduman, America to burn.

Posted: June 15th, 2010, 3:25 pm
by dconrad000
I appreciate that Friendsofthe...yes, I did actually spend several hours a couple of months ago looking into it. I first became acquainted with the man's story through the Pastor Lindsey Williams (an occasional Alex Jones guest) -- in one of his dvd series, "The Elite Speak" -- which is an excellent dvd series you can view on youtube. In referencing the man of whom we speak ("the Romanian Bible smuggler") Lindsey Williams and his associate were obviously quite taken with him.

I was intrigued -- and spent several hours looking into it...and then came to my conclusion.

I do think that you can gain some very valuable information from the works of Lindsey Williams, whom I feel is a sincere and honest man -- who happens to have some very valuable connections with the Elite who are running the world -- and the information that he has shared time and time again over the past many years, has proven to be reliable.

Here is a link to "The Elite Speak", in case you might be interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHMtHvODtoQ

...and very true...America is certainly headed for trouble, and is in sore need of repentance.

Re: Dumitru Duduman, America to burn.

Posted: June 16th, 2010, 9:52 am
by friendsofthe
Here’s something interesting. While I was looking into Dumitru Duduman’s material on you tube I came across another man making a very similar statement as to nukes and where it would occur in America. Check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kbCvtAp ... re=related

Re: Dumitru Duduman, America to burn.

Posted: June 16th, 2010, 10:55 am
by dconrad000
I've long felt that America would be nuked by Russia and China. I do believe that is in our future.

...posted these on another thread yesterday...has some application here as well...

dconrad000 wrote:
After all, it may come to nuclear war, but I think the LDG's only threaten the use of them and count on that strategy to get their way.
(responding to that quote)

Since one of their designs however, is to kill off 80-90% of the population -- and keep the rest of us around as slaves -- it makes sense that they will eventually play that card.

After all, they are "itching" to try out their multi-billion-dollar, deep, underground, granite-hardened-sanctuaries, where they think they'll be safe.

I do believe that the "Thirteen-Month War" as depicted in the Book of Revelations -- wherein 1/3 of man is wiped out in thirteen months -- will start off initially, at least -- as a limited, tactical nuclear war (not an all-out-world-wide-destruction, thermo-nuclear war)...

...wherein certain strategic locations in America will be hit.
dconrad000 wrote:Here are the verses in Revelations to which I referred: verses 13-21, in chapter 9:

13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,
14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.
16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.
18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.

[It is interesting to note that the back, or tail of a missle is what propels it -- and the warhead is at the front]

20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
You might also be interested to see this, as well...

I refer you to the addendum of Roger K Young's book, "As A Thief In The Night", which I read about 10 years ago...George Albert Smith vision (received shortly after World War II)...

...a few points, as described from the vision:

It was a vision of another terrible war which would make World War II look like a "training exercise."

The worst time in the depression would look like a picnic in comparison.

The Soviet Union would have military power dwarfing that of the U.S.

Russia would position thousands of tanks in big trucks.

The U.S. withdrew its missiles with atomic war heads from Europe, and then the war began.

The U.S. had its missiles in deep holes which looked like grain silos (...interesting to note that this vision was seen, before we had conceived of such a thing).

The U.S. President would be the first one to be of Greek extraction.

It would occur on a holiday after the election of the new president, but before his inauguration.

I think you would really appreciate reading "As A Thief In The Night"...as well as, "Behold The Fig Tree" (also by Roger K Young). The latter focuses more particularly on events centered in the Rocky Mountain region; the former, the whole world. Both books are compilations of both ancient and modern prophecy...which includes some pretty astounding visions and prophecy from the likes of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, John Taylor, Wilford Woodruff, George Albert Smith...and several others.

The case for nuclear war in America's future is quite clear to me...has been for many, many years.

I believe that strategic locations in America will be hit -- some big cities along both coasts; military/navy/airforce bases; silo locations...etc...including quite possibly strategic hits on Hill AFB and Thiokol, in Utah.

I believe that the places of refuge that will be prepared for the faithful and obedient, will among other strategic points of import -- be positioned in areas that will be favorable with respect to wind patterns and fall-out from strategic target areas.

As for the man in the video which you posted immediately above...I know nothing of the man, his motivations, or the direction he is trying to take people with his story. He may just be a man who had the privilege of having a dream. However, I do want to point out that the adversary can set up people to be able to share seemingly "earthshattering" knowledge or truths -- but with the ultimate design of leading people away from more important truths. A false prophet may well be shown & share some dramatic things to gain a following...and may even be a good, sincere person -- but ultimately the good people that follow can be led away from a more important truth -- such as the correct identification of the restored, true and living Church of God, authority and gospel...as was what I found to be the case with respect to Dumitru Duduman.