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I've been wondering about this lately - is the gulf oil spill somehow connected to Revelations 8:8 (1/3 of sea turning to blood, 1/3 sea creatures dead)? From aerial views, the spill certainly has a reddish-brown tint to it.

What are your thoughts?

Generic wrote:I've been wondering about this lately - is the gulf oil spill somehow connected to Revelations 8:8 (1/3 of sea turning to blood, 1/3 sea creatures dead)? From aerial views, the spill certainly has a reddish-brown tint to it.

What are your thoughts?

We'll see!

Bob

Don't think so. The destruction is caused by something cosmic falling into the ocean. Exxon Valdez was bad, and there' barely a trace of it's destruction left.

6 And the seven angels which had the seven atrumpets prepared themselves to sound.
7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and afire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;
9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed.
10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

Reading the verses from Revelations chapter 8, it doesn't sound to me like the 2nd trumpet (vs 8-9) necessarily has to come from the sky.... Wormwood, which does come from the sky, is the 3rd trumpet. Looking at pictures of an oil rig on fire, it's possible it could look a bit like a great mountain burning with fire that is cast into the sea. Also, the oil does appear a little like blood-- and it is toxic to marine life even in very small quantities. Not so sure about the 3rd part of the ships being destroyed though.

It does sound like this catastrophe is likely much worse than is being reported, and may be very difficult to repair.
http://pesn.com/2010/05/02/9501643_Moth ... hs_oceans/
I guess we'll just have to wait and see if 1/3 of the marine life dies to know if this is the 2nd trumpet or not.

I find it hard to believe that an oil spill from a single boat into a vast vast ocean can really have any serious effect. It's literally a drop in the ocean.

MasterOfNone wrote:I find it hard to believe that an oil spill from a single boat into a vast vast ocean can really have any serious effect. It's literally a drop in the ocean.

It isn't a boat, it's an uncapped well that's gushing from the bottom of the ocean. But yeah, it would have to gush for a long long time to make 1/3 of the marine life die.

Or just provoke a reaction from the US government that could kill 1/3 of the marine life. Wait until we see what there grand idea to stop or clean it up is. After all chemotherapy has to almost kill you to fix you?

I have the book titled "The Second Coming of Jesus Christ" by Kevan Clawson and he talks about the sea turning to blood. (Rev 8:7-9) He says it is the effect of a comet.
" A description of the effects of a comet coming close to hitting the earth in ancient times
is provided by Immanuel Velikovsky:
In the middle of the second millennium before the present era, the earth underwent one of the greatest catastrophes in its history. A celestial body that only shortly before has become a member of the solar system
- a new comet- came very close to the earth. The comet was on its way from its perihelion and touched the earth first with its gaseous tail. One of the first visible signs of this encounter was the reddening of the earth's surface by a fine dust of rusty pigment. In sea, lake and river this pigment gave a bloody coloring to the water. Because of these particles...the world turned red.
The presence of the hematoid pigment in the rivers caused the death of fish followed by decomposition and smell.....The skin of men and of animals was irritated by the dust, which caused boils, sickness and the death of cattle." (Worlds of Collision,pp 41-48,51-53)

I found that interesting. Kind of seems like that red dust the dumped into the air on the series "V" That show always freaked me out as a kid. Anyways, it does seem possible that the effects of a comet could cause some red dust. We'll just have to wait and see.

I really should read the news some times

Velikovsky is interesting - I came across his thoughts in Anthony Larsen's books years ago. I'm a catastrophist - just ask anyone who knows me

bobhenstra wrote:We'll see!

Bob

That's my thought on it as well.

If you really look into this disaster, it has the possibility of turning into a catastrophe of unimaginable proportions.

I don't know personally, but this is what I've heard from various sources:

The well was the first into a tremendous oil and natural gas deposit previously untapped.
The oil and gas is under tremendous pressure - over 150,000 psi
When they hit it, they weren't prepared for the pressure and it blew out every safety device (up to 11 of them) designed to prevent it.
The oil is shooting out. At first we were told 2,000 barrels a day, then 20,000 barrels a day, now there are reports that it could be leaking 40,000 barrels a day.
The oil is near enough to the "loop current" which goes through the gulf that it is almost certainly going to get caught up in the current.
The "loop current" goes around Florida and then connects with the Gulf Stream in the Atlantic - which then connects to every other major ocean current.

Based on those facts, it is possible that enough oil COULD pour out and continue to pour out that the oil COULD spread around the world or nearly so... which COULD then kill 1/3 of marine life.

Will it?

We will just have to wait and see what happens.

Wormwood is defined in the BD as "The herb Artemisia. Used metaphorically of bitter calamity or sorrow".
Wormwood is referenced nearly 10 times in the Bible and was known for it's bitterness. I'm not sure, though I am open to being completely off base, that wormwood described in Revelations must fall from the sky. I believe that could be metaphorical emphasis for the sudden spoiling of our water being a curse from God (as in "wrath poured out from heaven" kind of metaphorical).

Does anyone know if this particular gushing disaster is dumping oil into the gulf stream? If so, couldn't the potential damage be exponentially greater than Exxon Valdez, which was nowhere near the current?

Actually, it's part of something foretold in a movie titled Oil Storm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4nVMVc9Fv4

Generic wrote:I've been wondering about this lately - is the gulf oil spill somehow connected to Revelations 8:8 (1/3 of sea turning to blood, 1/3 sea creatures dead)? From aerial views, the spill certainly has a reddish-brown tint to it.

What are your thoughts?

very interesting perspective there.. i've been thinking about this being a sign here lately, but i never thought of rev. 8:8 being connected... im going to be doing some pondering now lol

MercynGrace wrote:Wormwood is defined in the BD as "The herb Artemisia. Used metaphorically of bitter calamity or sorrow".
Wormwood is referenced nearly 10 times in the Bible and was known for it's bitterness. I'm not sure, though I am open to being completely off base, that wormwood described in Revelations must fall from the sky. I believe that could be metaphorical emphasis for the sudden spoiling of our water being a curse from God (as in "wrath poured out from heaven" kind of metaphorical).

Does anyone know if this particular gushing disaster is dumping oil into the gulf stream? If so, couldn't the potential damage be exponentially greater than Exxon Valdez, which was nowhere near the current?

The Chrenobyl disater was wormwood I think. http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/ha ... rmwood.htm

Also the Exxon disater most certainly had long lasting consequences... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbjC9SMKClE

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NamasteMama wrote:

MercynGrace wrote:Wormwood is defined in the BD as "The herb Artemisia. Used metaphorically of bitter calamity or sorrow".
Wormwood is referenced nearly 10 times in the Bible and was known for it's bitterness. I'm not sure, though I am open to being completely off base, that wormwood described in Revelations must fall from the sky. I believe that could be metaphorical emphasis for the sudden spoiling of our water being a curse from God (as in "wrath poured out from heaven" kind of metaphorical).

Does anyone know if this particular gushing disaster is dumping oil into the gulf stream? If so, couldn't the potential damage be exponentially greater than Exxon Valdez, which was nowhere near the current?

The Chrenobyl disater was wormwood I think. http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/ha ... rmwood.htm

Also the Exxon disater most certainly had long lasting consequences... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbjC9SMKClE

I hate to break it to you but Chernoblyl = Wormwood is a mistranslation that has been going around for years.
the nuclear disaster was not a sign as described in Revelations.

durangout wrote:

NamasteMama wrote:

MercynGrace wrote:Wormwood is defined in the BD as "The herb Artemisia. Used metaphorically of bitter calamity or sorrow".
Wormwood is referenced nearly 10 times in the Bible and was known for it's bitterness. I'm not sure, though I am open to being completely off base, that wormwood described in Revelations must fall from the sky. I believe that could be metaphorical emphasis for the sudden spoiling of our water being a curse from God (as in "wrath poured out from heaven" kind of metaphorical).

Does anyone know if this particular gushing disaster is dumping oil into the gulf stream? If so, couldn't the potential damage be exponentially greater than Exxon Valdez, which was nowhere near the current?

The Chrenobyl disater was wormwood I think. http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/ha ... rmwood.htm

Also the Exxon disater most certainly had long lasting consequences... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbjC9SMKClE

I hate to break it to you but Chernoblyl = Wormwood is a mistranslation that has been going around for years.
the nuclear disaster was not a sign as described in Revelations.

Sorry, one other thing: Chernoblyl was an event that clealy happen during the 6th Seal. "Wormwood" is a 7th Seal event. (Rev: 8:11)

pjbrownie wrote:Don't think so. The destruction is caused by something cosmic falling into the ocean. Exxon Valdez was bad, and there' barely a trace of it's destruction left.

Cruise missle?

MercynGrace wrote:Wormwood is defined in the BD as "The herb Artemisia. Used metaphorically of bitter calamity or sorrow".
Wormwood is referenced nearly 10 times in the Bible and was known for it's bitterness. I'm not sure, though I am open to being completely off base, that wormwood described in Revelations must fall from the sky. I believe that could be metaphorical emphasis for the sudden spoiling of our water being a curse from God (as in "wrath poured out from heaven" kind of metaphorical).

I tend to agree with this.

I do not plan on being around to see it. Hopefully I will be called with those of the first trump.

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Renee wrote:A cruise missile with a bitter herb strapped to it?

Probably Cilantro. That stuff ruins everything it touches.

shadow wrote:

Renee wrote:A cruise missile with a bitter herb strapped to it?

Probably Cilantro. That stuff ruins everything it touches.

WHAT!?! Cilantro is yummay!

Doesn't it also say that the continents would come back together?

If that were to happened, the plates would move over exposing the magma beneath... and would cause the seas to boil and would definitely give the oceans a reddish color to it (and an eerie glow too).

I think this is a very real possibility.
I think we run into trouble when referencing others opinions, ( who usually have it wrong with their guess ) and not seeing signs around us as they happen. Someone just asked the other day on a thread if some of the signs are veiled.
This spill is already being termed as twice as bad as the Valdez and it is just getting started. Now they are going to open up the throat of the pipe to work on it which is going to increase the flow and as it is we are just in day... in the 40's on Memorial day weekend...... and they now say it won't be stopped until AUGUST!..... are you kidding me? AUGUST?
This is going to get worse in a drastic way!