Does Each Galaxy Have Its Own God...

[KalelIsbell]

I bought this book from Seagull book and tape, called the Kolob Theorem and its is suggesting that each Galaxy is a Godly kingdom, with the center being the Celestial, the middle being the Terrestrial, and the outer area(where the Earth currently dwells) is the telestial, with the space between the galaxies being outer darkness.
i was under the assumption that all we could see in the heavens including all the stars, galaxies ect. were the Lords.
has anybody else read or heard of this before????

[Steve Clark]

Ya, I have read the that book too. It was a great read. It makes sense that each galaxy could have its own God, but I didn't find anything in there that was definitive proof that such is the case.

I loved the idea of the veils though, and awesome pictures of the center of the universe!

[dconrad000]

ATTT & NGL are right...not a proper setting to discuss this...remarks withdrawn.

[dconrad000]

ATTT & NGL are right...not a proper setting to discuss this...remarks withdrawn.

[Henmasher]

Kolob is no different. It was once an earth-like structure. The people who obtained god-hood on that earth-like structure now inhabit Kolob.

I believe Kolob is the "master" star that governs the rest. It is stated that it is closest to where God resides. It is not where he resides.

[Henmasher]

He has created worlds without end. I believe that all we see is our Heavenly Fathers. Each God may have their own Universe but galaxy contradicts what I have been told or learned.

[dconrad000]

ATTT & NGL are right...not a proper setting to discuss this...remarks withdrawn.

[dconrad000]

ATTT & NGL are right...not a proper setting to discuss this...remarks withdrawn.

[kathyn]

I also read the Kolob Theorem. It's interesting but I just don't know. At any rate, Heavenly Father is my personal Heavenly Father and I'm not concerned with any other. And I agree with other posters; this is probably not an appropriate topic to be bantying around.

[gruden]

I have to ask: what support does the author have for this idea? What scriptures/prophetic statements talk about this? Being into esoteric subjects myself, this idea occurred to me when I was in college, but it was just my own thought free-floating without any basis in anything. I'm curious how someone could write a whole book on this topic, and more especially what substantiation he offers.

[gruden]

If anyone wants to read the book, they can get the pdf here:

http://hickmanmuseum.homestead.com/the_ ... heorem.pdf

Having read some of the reviews for this at Amazon, the pdf is probably the way to go.

[bobhenstra]

There's a very good reason why the book is called a "theorem!"

Bob

[Quiet Cricket]

I think the size and scope of Heavenly Father's creations is bigger than a galaxy. The only way I could accept this is if the theories of dimensions are true. If so, the galaxy could be infinitely bigger. I believe there are many concepts like this that we can't understand now that will define our eternal existence, ideas so foreign that we just can't accurately imagine what it will be like. Living out a time line on a mortal earth could be one of the many ways to live. Pre-earth life was probably different, but I don't think we lived as God lived. He knows everything and therefore does not measure time. Because we weren't gods, I suppose we had to live a time line there as well, and will until we know all things. <--- Just my evolving conclusions, things could be much simpler as well.

[sbsion]

is there more than one Christ in the eternities?..............hmmmmmmm and...?

[NoGreaterLove]

is there more than one Christ in the eternities?..............hmmmmmmm and...?

If anyone knows the answer to that question, I hope they keep it sacred.

[sbsion]

is there more than one Christ in the eternities?..............hmmmmmmm and...?

If anyone knows the answer to that question, I hope they keep it sacred.

"..........there's never been a time there's been a Father without a son, and a son without a Father...".............".........I do nothing, save I have seen my Father........"..question, are not ALL Fathers, once Saviors?

[armedtotheteeth]

Does anyone else feel restrained to talk about topics like this on LDSFF or any other website? I can thing of a worse place to talk about such sacred topics imo. I am very selective to who I discuss deep spiritual matters with in my personal life little alone throw it all over the internet!

[shadow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyzIau5d ... re=related

[NoGreaterLove]

Does anyone else feel restrained to talk about topics like this on LDSFF or any other website? I can thing of a worse place to talk about such sacred topics imo. I am very selective to who I discuss deep spiritual matters with in my personal life little alone throw it all over the internet!

Thank you. I was beginning to think I was alone.
I would not even discuss some of these issues outside the temple, and some are so sacred, I would not even discuss them there.
This is one of those issues.
How can something be treated with sacredness when it is splattered all over the world for everyone to mock and ridicule?

[sbsion]

Does anyone else feel restrained to talk about topics like this on LDSFF or any other website? I can thing of a worse place to talk about such sacred topics imo. I am very selective to who I discuss deep spiritual matters with in my personal life little alone throw it all over the internet!

Thank you. I was beginning to think I was alone.
I would not even discuss some of these issues outside the temple, and some are so sacred, I would not even discuss them there.
This is one of those issues.
How can something be treated with sacredness when it is splattered all over the world for everyone to mock and ridicule?

Me thinks you have a problem......discussing my family is an honor, I live in my temple, and since I understand being endowed, I have no problems sharing "...further light and knowledge........." just ask

[armedtotheteeth]

Me thinks you have a problem......discussing my family is an honor, I live in my temple, and since I understand being endowed, I have no problems sharing "...further light and knowledge........." just ask

WOW! I'm speechless!

[oneClimbs]

One thing I have learned in my short life is that every time I learn something about God it is 1000 times larger than I originally thought. I'll have to find the quote, it's in a book I have and it's from one of the first apostles, I believe. Where they said that this universe, or creation, was around 255 billion years old. I'll have to find it. I hate quoting stuff that I don't have a source for.

I can however defer to one of Neal A. Maxwell's favorite titles for Christ, "Lord of the UNIVERSE". Just watch "Special Witnesses of Christ". I think there is much wisdom behind that title. He didn't call him "Lord of the Galaxy". No, I don't think we can even begin to look out into the universe and see the beginning of the creations of our Father in Heaven.

Maybe an earth for each galaxy. I know that that's about as close as I can take it. Maybe a universe for each earth

[LukeAir2008]

One thing I have learned in my short life is that every time I learn something about God it is 1000 times larger than I originally thought. I'll have to find the quote, it's in a book I have and it's from one of the first apostles, I believe. Where they said that this universe, or creation, was around 255 billion years old. I'll have to find it. I hate quoting stuff that I don't have a source for.

I can however defer to one of Neal A. Maxwell's favorite titles for Christ, "Lord of the UNIVERSE". Just watch "Special Witnesses of Christ". I think there is much wisdom behind that title. He didn't call him "Lord of the Galaxy". No, I don't think we can even begin to look out into the universe and see the beginning of the creations of our Father in Heaven.

Maybe an earth for each galaxy. I know that that's about as close as I can take it. Maybe a universe for each earth

It was Bruce R McConkie who said that our particular Heavenly Father and God (the one who fathered our Spirits) has presided in 'our Universe' for 2,555,000,000 years. Bruce didn't always get things right but yes, maybe its a ball park figure.

Anyway, as some have already complained, this is not 1840 and we're not allowed to discuss the truth anymore - too many people both in and out of the church can't handle the truth and will either leave or not join in the first place!

Nursery level doctrine only please!

[gruden]

It was Bruce R McConkie who said that our particular Heavenly Father and God (the one who fathered our Spirits) has presided in 'our Universe' for 2,555,000,000 years. Bruce didn't always get things right but yes, maybe its a ball park figure.

Anyway, as some have already complained, this is not 1840 and we're not allowed to discuss the truth anymore - too many people both in and out of the church can't handle the truth and will either leave or not join in the first place!

Nursery level doctrine only please!

Very true, Luke. Stuff like this has been available and speculated on for many years. Go back to things written/said by GAs in the 1800s, or intellectuals like BH Roberts and you can find this stuff. Anti-mormons certainly do.

Joseph Smith complained how members would 'fly apart like glass' when confronted with certain truths, so he withheld for that reason. In D&C 84 I read this morning about how the elders were condemned for their unbelief, causing their understanding to be darkened. There's nothing stated in this thread so sacred it can't be mentioned, but rather it's as children making blind guesses at things that have been withheld because of our wickedness and lack of belief.

[NoGreaterLove]

Anyway, as some have already complained, this is not 1840 and we're not allowed to discuss the truth anymore - too many people both in and out of the church can't handle the truth and will either leave or not join in the first place!

Those things were spoken under the direction of the Lord in sacred meetings, when moved upon by the Holy Ghost. They were treated as sacred and so should we by not discussing them on the internet for all to see. (we have to be in tuned with the Spirit to help us know which things to reveal and what not to.)
Remember the Boyd K. Packer quotes at the various stake centers. The things he said were meant for the people attending that meeting, not to be broadcast over the internet. They asked us to put a stop to it, so we did.
Sacred does not mean secret. It is how you view and treat something. The Spirit tells me some of the roads a few individuals were going down was making light of sacred things.
I voiced my feelings on the matter in hopes that those who were doing such would realized they were traveling down this road.
It is up to them to decide if they want to continue. It will not hurt me one bit because I will not participate in those discussions. But they may be hurting a lot of others who have tender testimonies and they may be hurting themselves by divulging such information.