Spencer, Visions of glory, is he for real?

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Spencer, is he telling the truth? deceived? or making it all up?

I believe Spencer is telling the truth about his visions, that they are indeed from God
28
80%
I believe Spencer's visions are real, but from the Devil
2
6%
I believe Spencer has created a convincing lie based off various sources and imaginations.
5
14%
 
Total votes: 35
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durangout
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There is SO much SO wrong in this book that it deeply saddens me to konw that SO many are SO easily deceived.

1 Tim 4:1 says it best: Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

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durangout
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SamFisher wrote:The vision is legit, as is Julie Rowe's.
Two incorrect statements in one short sentence. That's gotta be a record.

Julie's vision is bunk also. I've read her book, listened to 2 of her presentations and had a third presentation of hers related to me. Guess what? Her story gets better each time with additional details that the previous ones did not include. (Including bigfoot is real).

I must admit it is sort of enjoyable to listen to her. It's kind of a guilty pleasure. I would describe it as doomsday porn--nothing else.

I do have a question for her believers: She was very clear in proclaiming that w/in 5 years, the righteous would be living in tent cities. If this does not occur will you agree that she is either a liar or listening to false spirits?

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I personally know "Spencer" and he is one of the most honest and ethical men I have ever befriended. As a word of caution to those who choose to judge him unfairly, and to bare false witness against him, I ask you to please reconsider your actions. He is numbered among His elect, and is a literal son of the Firstborn.

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durangout wrote:Her story gets better each time with additional details that the previous ones did not include. (Including bigfoot is real).
So kinda like Joseph Smith and the First Vision? Just wondering?

I have no idea who she is btw...so I have no dog in this fight.

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WarMonger
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There is not one doctrinal error in the book, your jealousy will lead you down the wrong paths.

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Elias Returns wrote:I personally know "Spencer" and he is one of the most honest and ethical men I have ever befriended. As a word of caution to those who choose to judge him unfairly, and to bare false witness against him, I ask you to please reconsider your actions. He is numbered among His elect, and is a literal son of the Firstborn.


Here is your key. I am a nice guy, well liked by nice people, honest and ethical.
And guess what -


the LORD SUFFERED ME TO BE DECEIVED.


And that was after I met him.

24 For there shall arise false christs and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

If you consider you are among the elect you should also consider you could be deceived.

There has been a great difficulty in getting anything into the heads of this generation. It has been like splitting hemlock knots with a corn-dodger for a wedge and a pumpkin for a beetle.

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WarMonger
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Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

VoG is a sweet tasting fruit the testifies of the Messiah, and inviteth and persuade one to do good. The way to judge is easy there is no deception - no one with clear conscience can say the book encourages evil.

Moroni 7:15 For behold, my brethren, it is given unto you to judge, that ye may know good from evil; and the way to judge is as plain, that ye may know with a perfect knowledge, as the daylight is from the dark night.
16 For behold, the Spirit of Christ is given to every man, that he may know good from evil; wherefore, I show unto you the way to judge; for every thing which inviteth to do good, and to persuade to believe in Christ, is sent forth by the power and gift of Christ; wherefore ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is of God.
17 But whatsoever thing persuadeth men to do evil, and believe not in Christ, and deny him, and serve not God, then ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is of the devil; for after this manner doth the devil work, for he persuadeth no man to do good, no, not one; neither do his angels; neither do they who subject themselves unto him.

Bambi
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notjamesbond003.5 wrote:
Bambi wrote:
notjamesbond003.5 wrote:I lean towards Spencer and Pontius their humility speaks to me.
Njb
He does sound like a humble guy. I'm sure he believes in what he tells.
Got it.

Spencer is just too stupid to realize he's been deceived according to you.

Njb


Would you please give me a list of people to smart to be deceived. Are you on that list?

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Bill wrote:A friend of mine knows him and he WAS just called as a Bishop. I have looked him up per his counseling profession. I have never met him however.
proof?

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WarMonger
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Bambi wrote:proof?
Matthew 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.

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I know who Spencer is, yes he's really been called as a Bishop. I'm locking the "slander and defame and call a man I know nothing about a liar who follows false spirits" thread. :)

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