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Isaiah 5:20

"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!"

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OCDMOM wrote: November 8th, 2024, 11:05 am Isaiah 5:20

"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!"
Amen. That's the first thought that came to my mind when I saw this.

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By my reckoning, if electing Donald Trump was supposed to trigger the end, then we're 8 years overdue.

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I won’t criticize the man for believing Trump is a wicked man, nor for the scripture he posted on the door. But I will criticize what I infer to be his support of Harris. The only consistent application of that scripture is to apply it to both Trump and Harris, who have both been very wicked, if the stories about them both are to be believed.

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OCDMOM wrote: November 8th, 2024, 10:43 am
CMajor wrote: November 8th, 2024, 3:38 am My daughter was turned into a liberal from attending high school and then BYU, which shocked me to no end.

And the American people DID vote in a full blown MUSLIM Obama.

The Math professor or Barrack Hussein Obama - which one was worse?
Same, but my Daughter was brainwashed by tic tok. I prayed about how to talk to her without it turning into a fight and my answer was to reply to her comments with Ok so you are saying this? I will see. if works.
The play book is to destroy the youth through emotion. You have to turn off their emotional responses, or at least tone them down, reduce their impact, point out where emotion isn't an answer or a solution. And then keep up the critical thinking, factual arguments, and restore your kids' critical thinking skills in order to wake them up. Many say that facts don't work when you're talking with an emotionally indoctrinated leftist thinking person. That's true in a short term, but in the long term it works. They wake up. They figure it out. They begin to think critically again. They have their come to Jesus moment. Keep tamping down the emotional response positions. Keep pointing out the emotionally charged positions that are void of critical thinking. Keep dumping the common sense on thick. It's the only thing that counters the emotional onslaught and will eventually wake your kids up.

From the 1800's book titled "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and The Madness of Crowds":

“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.”

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

The reason they go mad in herds is because they lose their identity and become emotionally invested. Whereas, they recover their senses slowly and one by one because they think about things, slowly, they critically think slowly, and on their own. Begin the process with presenting the common sense information they need. Let them simmer on things. Let them experience the madness of crowds and the sanity of coming to their senses.

It's funny that a leftist propagandist communist marxist professor came out with a counter narrative book titled "The Wisdom of Crowds". Its a bunch of propaganda globalist marxist garbage......
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4Joshua8 wrote: November 8th, 2024, 12:06 pm I won’t criticize the man for believing Trump is a wicked man, nor for the scripture he posted on the door. But I will criticize what I infer to be his support of Harris. The only consistent application of that scripture is to apply it to both Trump and Harris, who have both been very wicked, if the stories about them both are to be believed.
Both Trump and Harris are sinful. Neither is a "holy person". As it concerns politicians the labels wicked and immoral and good and evil and so on are generally distractions. The most important attribute of a leader is that he/she can be trusted to do the right thing for the people they lead and represent.

In this way, a politician is a lot like an attorney. What matters in the hiring of an attorney is their ability to represent and fulfill the interests of the client. The attorney's background may be informative, but a "righteous" attorney who fails to represent and fulfill the interest of his clients is not worth much, no matter how much he goes to church and prays.

As a politician, Trump has several strengths. One is he genuinely loves his country and its people. Another strength is Trump fights and generally wins - he is almost unsinkable. Trump's flaws include that he is a poor judge of character and careless in the people he hires and consults and his ego often becomes consuming of his interests.

Harris may have strengths but it is not at all evident what she offers as a leader. As for Harris's flaws the main one is she is ignorant and doesn't know it. Or maybe she knows it but feels she can fool people by distracting them with cackles and trite sayings.

A leader like Trump can be very successful if he puts the right people around him. Harris will never be a successful leader. It's not in her DNA and the main reason Americans did not hire Harris to be president is they concluded she was unqualified for the job.

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Kamalas entire platform was killing babies and immorality. Evil was the only choice in voting for Kamala.

This BYU professor represents the stupidity that has plagued Utah and the culture of the church. It has infiltrated every institution and at all levels. It's secret combinations of the devil in your face and nothing short of it.

I guess it really is 2+2=5 for this dinklehead math professor.

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A Disciple wrote: November 8th, 2024, 5:28 pm
4Joshua8 wrote: November 8th, 2024, 12:06 pm I won’t criticize the man for believing Trump is a wicked man, nor for the scripture he posted on the door. But I will criticize what I infer to be his support of Harris. The only consistent application of that scripture is to apply it to both Trump and Harris, who have both been very wicked, if the stories about them both are to be believed.
Both Trump and Harris are sinful. Neither is a "holy person". As it concerns politicians the labels wicked and immoral and good and evil and so on are generally distractions. The most important attribute of a leader is that he/she can be trusted to do the right thing for the people they lead and represent.

In this way, a politician is a lot like an attorney. What matters in the hiring of an attorney is their ability to represent and fulfill the interests of the client. The attorney's background may be informative, but a "righteous" attorney who fails to represent and fulfill the interest of his clients is not worth much, no matter how much he goes to church and prays.

As a politician, Trump has several strengths. One is he genuinely loves his country and its people. Another strength is Trump fights and generally wins - he is almost unsinkable. Trump's flaws include that he is a poor judge of character and careless in the people he hires and consults and his ego often becomes consuming of his interests.

Harris may have strengths but it is not at all evident what she offers as a leader. As for Harris's flaws the main one is she is ignorant and doesn't know it. Or maybe she knows it but feels she can fool people by distracting them with cackles and trite sayings.

A leader like Trump can be very successful if he puts the right people around him. Harris will never be a successful leader. It's not in her DNA and the main reason Americans did not hire Harris to be president is they concluded she was unqualified for the job.
I respectfully disagree. Trump found Jesus. He found repentance. He's a man born again. Kamala rejects Jesus. Rejects repentance. Rejects God. She said so herself. Trump, on the other hand, has accepted Jesus. He said so himself. There is a huge spiritual difference between the two. These positions on repentance and acceptance of Jesus are recent developments.

Your descriptions reflect the descriptions given to us from the Fake news legacy media which has made a business out of gathering together any historical, in the past, data point that besmirches Trump as a nasty person and dismisses the present-day moving target of his soul. They also ignore any historical data point that intimates Kamala has a sordid past, and paints her to be a self described saint. The media descriptions don't reflect reality on the ground in real time. They don't take into account repentance. They don't reflect the heart and soul as currently constituted.

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Arm Chair Quarterback wrote: November 8th, 2024, 10:48 pm
A Disciple wrote: November 8th, 2024, 5:28 pm
4Joshua8 wrote: November 8th, 2024, 12:06 pm I won’t criticize the man for believing Trump is a wicked man, nor for the scripture he posted on the door. But I will criticize what I infer to be his support of Harris. The only consistent application of that scripture is to apply it to both Trump and Harris, who have both been very wicked, if the stories about them both are to be believed.
Both Trump and Harris are sinful. Neither is a "holy person". As it concerns politicians the labels wicked and immoral and good and evil and so on are generally distractions. The most important attribute of a leader is that he/she can be trusted to do the right thing for the people they lead and represent.

In this way, a politician is a lot like an attorney. What matters in the hiring of an attorney is their ability to represent and fulfill the interests of the client. The attorney's background may be informative, but a "righteous" attorney who fails to represent and fulfill the interest of his clients is not worth much, no matter how much he goes to church and prays.

As a politician, Trump has several strengths. One is he genuinely loves his country and its people. Another strength is Trump fights and generally wins - he is almost unsinkable. Trump's flaws include that he is a poor judge of character and careless in the people he hires and consults and his ego often becomes consuming of his interests.

Harris may have strengths but it is not at all evident what she offers as a leader. As for Harris's flaws the main one is she is ignorant and doesn't know it. Or maybe she knows it but feels she can fool people by distracting them with cackles and trite sayings.

A leader like Trump can be very successful if he puts the right people around him. Harris will never be a successful leader. It's not in her DNA and the main reason Americans did not hire Harris to be president is they concluded she was unqualified for the job.
I respectfully disagree. Trump found Jesus. He found repentance. He's a man born again. Kamala rejects Jesus. Rejects repentance. Rejects God. She said so herself. Trump, on the other hand, has accepted Jesus. He said so himself. There is a huge spiritual difference between the two. These positions on repentance and acceptance of Jesus are recent developments.

Your descriptions reflect the descriptions given to us from the Fake news legacy media which has made a business out of gathering together any historical, in the past, data point that besmirches Trump as a nasty person and dismisses the present-day moving target of his soul. They also ignore any historical data point that intimates Kamala has a sordid past, and paints her to be a self described saint. The media descriptions don't reflect reality on the ground in real time. They don't take into account repentance. They don't reflect the heart and soul as currently constituted.
Great point. To any LDS or self proclaimed Christian who labels Trump evil one should inquire: "That may have been true then, how is Trump now? Do you allow a person like Trump to repent? Do you allow a person like Trump to be useful to God?"

The meaning of being a Christian is to believe that Jesus can save any person. This means that we must hope all persons can be redeemed and born again.

This hope still allows for society to offer judgment against people. But it should be a fair judgment. I actually think the Democrats understand this. Thus their complaint that the "jurors" who acquitted Trump are ignorant. Well those jurors were a majority of the voting American population! Those who cannot accept this outcome ought to examine their biases, and not lash out in anger.

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Does my Tithing money pay for this Senile old Man? If so where do I complain?

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Cruiserdude wrote: November 7th, 2024, 1:44 pm
How are us Mormons so lacking in discernment???? People send their kids to be taught by people like him? Mormon Inc has CLEARLY lost its way. I don't ascribe nor belong to it. I'm actually embarrassed when the Christians out here ask me why we support and do what we do.....
yeah, I don't "do missionary work" anymore for the church anymore. too embarrassing. if anyone asks, I tell them "I'm a wheat-under-the-bed Mormon; not a gay-pride mormon."

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mudflap wrote: November 9th, 2024, 7:58 pm
Cruiserdude wrote: November 7th, 2024, 1:44 pm
How are us Mormons so lacking in discernment???? People send their kids to be taught by people like him? Mormon Inc has CLEARLY lost its way. I don't ascribe nor belong to it. I'm actually embarrassed when the Christians out here ask me why we support and do what we do.....
yeah, I don't "do missionary work" anymore for the church anymore. too embarrassing. if anyone asks, I tell them "I'm a wheat-under-the-bed Mormon; not a gay-pride mormon."
Well... I think that IS missionary work. ;)

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dreamtheater76 wrote: November 8th, 2024, 6:44 pm Kamalas entire platform was killing babies and immorality. Evil was the only choice in voting for Kamala.

This BYU professor represents the stupidity that has plagued Utah and the culture of the church. It has infiltrated every institution and at all levels. It's secret combinations of the devil in your face and nothing short of it.

I guess it really is 2+2=5 for this dinklehead math professor.
Yes! Another word (two actually) for "secret combinations" is "abominable church".

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Any updates on this guy?

Now there is this from a High School Teacher in Pocatello.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yu8iDzIEnw

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OCDMOM wrote: November 14th, 2024, 1:05 pm Any updates on this guy?

Now there is this from a High School Teacher in Pocatello.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yu8iDzIEnw

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Arm Chair Quarterback wrote: November 8th, 2024, 10:48 pm Trump found Jesus.
Yet he can barely say the name.

His fruits will be his tell. I predict that you will see him appoint almost all swamp creatures who are known Zionists and that he will continue to be silent about the death jab.

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Arm Chair Quarterback wrote: November 8th, 2024, 3:49 pm
OCDMOM wrote: November 8th, 2024, 10:43 am
CMajor wrote: November 8th, 2024, 3:38 am My daughter was turned into a liberal from attending high school and then BYU, which shocked me to no end.

And the American people DID vote in a full blown MUSLIM Obama.

The Math professor or Barrack Hussein Obama - which one was worse?
Same, but my Daughter was brainwashed by tic tok. I prayed about how to talk to her without it turning into a fight and my answer was to reply to her comments with Ok so you are saying this? I will see. if works.
The play book is to destroy the youth through emotion. You have to turn off their emotional responses, or at least tone them down, reduce their impact, point out where emotion isn't an answer or a solution. And then keep up the critical thinking, factual arguments, and restore your kids' critical thinking skills in order to wake them up. Many say that facts don't work when you're talking with an emotionally indoctrinated leftist thinking person. That's true in a short term, but in the long term it works. They wake up. They figure it out. They begin to think critically again. They have their come to Jesus moment. Keep tamping down the emotional response positions. Keep pointing out the emotionally charged positions that are void of critical thinking. Keep dumping the common sense on thick. It's the only thing that counters the emotional onslaught and will eventually wake your kids up.

From the 1800's book titled "Extraordinary Popular Delusions and The Madness of Crowds":

“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.”

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

The reason they go mad in herds is because they lose their identity and become emotionally invested. Whereas, they recover their senses slowly and one by one because they think about things, slowly, they critically think slowly, and on their own. Begin the process with presenting the common sense information they need. Let them simmer on things. Let them experience the madness of crowds and the sanity of coming to their senses.

It's funny that a leftist propagandist communist marxist professor came out with a counter narrative book titled "The Wisdom of Crowds". Its a bunch of propaganda globalist marxist garbage......
"Men go crazy in congregations they only get better one by one" --Sting from "All this time." Cool song, kind of anti-religion, but hey it's Sting, so what could we expect?

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Shawn Henry wrote: November 14th, 2024, 2:20 pm
Arm Chair Quarterback wrote: November 8th, 2024, 10:48 pm Trump found Jesus.
Yet he can barely say the name.

His fruits will be his tell. I predict that you will see him appoint almost all swamp creatures who are known Zionists and that he will continue to be silent about the death jab.
I think DT's appointing RFK Jr. as the head of HHS is how he has chosen to acknowledge his mistake. The choice speaks volumes. An early pastor of his, Norman Vincent Peale, taught DT to focus on the positive and not dwell on his mistakes.

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Well, the Devil quotes scripture. Why not one of his mortal minions?

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