The New Unpardonable Sin

[Atrasado]

The New unpardonable sin is, of course, denying the Holy Prophets (TM)! This is a particularly damning sin because it might mislead someone into following their intuition which might lead to following the Holy Spirit and thusfollowing God. This, of course, is a grievous transgression because if we follow God people will do whatever the heck they want to do because they can just say the Holy Spirit told me to, and we will all become Chad Daybells and Lori Vallows.

Just because lots of people do crazy stuff already and we wouldn't really be following the Holy Spirit if we did whatever the heck we wanted is no excuse for disobeying those 15 Nearly Perfect Men (TM) who you Can Always Trust (TM). Seriously, if God really wanted us to get revelation from the Holy Ghost would he have called our beloved prophet, even Rusty Marion Nelson?

Is this scriptural? Heck, yes. I mean you can't find it in the scriptures spelled out, but it's there in hidden code if you know what to look for. Like, when the Savior told his disciples that the Comforter would lead you into all truth, he was obviously talking about Rusty because what is more comforting than looking at pictures of Rusty swinging in a cardigan sweater, or skiing on a black diamond, wearing scrubs, or smiling with children sitting on his lap ( )? When the Savior told Peter that upon this rock he would build his Church he wasn't talking about revelation or Peter, he was talking about Rusty who was standing upon that exact rock in spirit form.

So what is the worst form of this sin? It obviously goes up in severity from the least experienced to most experienced guys in the Q15. Talking crap (stating the truth about Ensign Peak, the COVID-19 vaccines, or child sex abuse in the Church) about Patrick is bad, but not nearly as bad as talking crap about Rusty or Lord Bednar. BTW, you will know how bad you've sinned when Bednar gets you with his intense stare and force chokes you to death, all while revoking your blessings (yes, really).

Hopefully, you have spiritually prepared yourself for this message by trusting in those men and the heaps of sacred loot they have amassed and never pondering about what they say and do. If you are so prepared, you will almost certainly get the many blessings you deserve.

/s

Sorry for my rant and my attempts at sarcasm. This wonderful video about one woman's NDE is what made me think about the unpardonable sin. It's funny how good the doctrine can be on YouTube sometimes.

[MikeMaillet]

The New unpardonable sin is, of course, denying the Holy Prophets (TM)! This is a particularly damning sin because it might mislead someone into following their intuition which might lead to following the Holy Spirit and thusfollowing God. This, of course, is a grievous transgression because if we follow God people will do whatever the heck they want to do because they can just say the Holy Spirit told me to, and we will all become Chad Daybells and Lori Vallows.

Just because lots of people do crazy stuff all ready and we wouldn't really be following the Holy Spirit if we did whatever the heck we wanted is no excuse for disobeying those 15 Nearly Perfect Men (TM) who you Can Always Trust (TM). Seriously, if God really wanted us to get revelation from the Holy Ghost would he have called our beloved prophet, even Rusty Marion Nelson?

Is this scriptural? Heck, yes. I mean you can't find it in the scriptures spelled out, but it's there in hidden code if you know what to look for. Like, when the Savior told his disciples that the Comforter would lead you into all truth, he was obviously talking about Rusty because what is more comforting than looking at pictures of Rusty swinging in a cardigan sweater, or skiing on a black diamond, wearing scrubs, or smiling with children sitting on his lap ( )? When the Savior told Peter that upon this rock he would build his Church he wasn't talking about revelation or Peter, he was talking about Rusty who was standing upon that exact rock in spirit form.

So what is the worst form of this sin? It obviously goes up in severity from the least experienced to most experienced guys in the Q15. Talking crap (stating the truth about Ensign Peak, the COVID-19 vaccines, or child sex abuse in the Church) about Patrick is bad, but not nearly as bad as talking crap about Rusty or Lord Bednar. BTW, you will know how bad you've sinned when Bednar gets you with his intense stare and force chokes you to death, all while revoking your blessings (yes, really).

Hopefully, you have spiritually prepared yourself for this message by trusting in those men and the heaps of sacred loot they have amassed and never pondering about what they say and do. If you are so prepared, you will almost certainly get the many blessings you deserve.

/s

Sorry for my rant and my attempts at sarcasm. This wonderful video about one woman's NDE is what made me think about the unpardonable sin. It's funny how good the doctrine can be on YouTube sometimes.

It has always bothered me how most people want to be led. The scriptures tell me that the Holy Ghost is the light of the Gentiles. Christ came in person to speak with the Israelites but the Gentiles will be addressed via the Holy Ghost. The scriptures warn us not to trust in the arm of flesh, except for Krusty and Co., they can be trusted

Mike

[Atrasado]

The New unpardonable sin is, of course, denying the Holy Prophets (TM)! This is a particularly damning sin because it might mislead someone into following their intuition which might lead to following the Holy Spirit and thusfollowing God. This, of course, is a grievous transgression because if we follow God people will do whatever the heck they want to do because they can just say the Holy Spirit told me to, and we will all become Chad Daybells and Lori Vallows.

Just because lots of people do crazy stuff all ready and we wouldn't really be following the Holy Spirit if we did whatever the heck we wanted is no excuse for disobeying those 15 Nearly Perfect Men (TM) who you Can Always Trust (TM). Seriously, if God really wanted us to get revelation from the Holy Ghost would he have called our beloved prophet, even Rusty Marion Nelson?

Is this scriptural? Heck, yes. I mean you can't find it in the scriptures spelled out, but it's there in hidden code if you know what to look for. Like, when the Savior told his disciples that the Comforter would lead you into all truth, he was obviously talking about Rusty because what is more comforting than looking at pictures of Rusty swinging in a cardigan sweater, or skiing on a black diamond, wearing scrubs, or smiling with children sitting on his lap ( )? When the Savior told Peter that upon this rock he would build his Church he wasn't talking about revelation or Peter, he was talking about Rusty who was standing upon that exact rock in spirit form.

So what is the worst form of this sin? It obviously goes up in severity from the least experienced to most experienced guys in the Q15. Talking crap (stating the truth about Ensign Peak, the COVID-19 vaccines, or child sex abuse in the Church) about Patrick is bad, but not nearly as bad as talking crap about Rusty or Lord Bednar. BTW, you will know how bad you've sinned when Bednar gets you with his intense stare and force chokes you to death, all while revoking your blessings (yes, really).

Hopefully, you have spiritually prepared yourself for this message by trusting in those men and the heaps of sacred loot they have amassed and never pondering about what they say and do. If you are so prepared, you will almost certainly get the many blessings you deserve.

/s

Sorry for my rant and my attempts at sarcasm. This wonderful video about one woman's NDE is what made me think about the unpardonable sin. It's funny how good the doctrine can be on YouTube sometimes.

It has always bothered me how most people want to be led. The scriptures tell me that the Holy Ghost is the light of the Gentiles. Christ came in person to speak with the Israelites but the Gentiles will be addressed via the Holy Ghost. The scriptures warn us not to trust in the arm of flesh, except for Krusty and Co., they can be trusted

Mike

I was asleep, too. It took them endorsing taking poison for a bad cold to finally wake me up. For years I read the scriptures about latter day prophets going of the rails and glossed over them. I'd think, "Surely those words in that scripture don't mean what they actually say." But nope. They did. Lol

[FrankOne]

Lord Bednar. BTW, you will know how bad you've sinned when Bednar gets you with his intense stare and force chokes you to death

great post.

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[FrankOne]

I was looking up the video of Oaks where he says it's wrong for members to criticize leaders even if the criticism is true and found this unusual comment below the video:

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@stephenjackson7797
2 years ago (edited)
Here's a bit of history most do not know. Oaks was president of BYU when I was there 1975-1979 (I finished my four years in 2-1/2 years even though I also did a mission...). Oaks had implemented a program at BYU to give a set number of students, including myself, Steve Benson (grandson of Ezra), Pat Bagley, a granddaughter of Kimball, etc. a preview of the essays that eventually had to be written in about 2014 or so. In it, we were given the whole story of the church's fallacies and problems, even more so than the essays address.

We were taught how to criticize old church leaders when their pronouncements were overturned later. Oaks had been under pressure to create a group of highly intelligent students who could compete with the Harvard types. He also wanted us to be able to go back to our wards and counter negative stuff with our teachings on how to correctly criticize old leaders' incorrect "doctrines".

His plan backfired. All of us left the church in the early 1980s, at least informally, and most of us became vocal critics of it. So Oaks' response was a crackdown on BYU to eliminate all of those who taught us this "nonsense" that he had put in place, and to install a policy of temple attendance for all BYU professors. So everyone is missing the fact that this was a reaction by Oaks to his failed attempt to teach us how to criticize church leaders the "correct" way, before he decided there was no "correct" way to do so.

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Oaks speaks at about 30 seconds. I actually can understand the reasoning behind this but the smirk gives him away.

[InfoWarrior82]

Here's how our church leaders are guilty of denying the Holy Ghost. Not just for themselves, but the sin of getting many members to do so:


Many members of the LDS church were strongly prompted by the Holy Ghost to NOT receive the jabs. BUT --- they heard "the prophet" say that we should and that it was sent by God as an answer to their prayers. They trusted in the arm of the flesh and became convinced that the prompting they felt must have been from the adversary. Now these members are screwed up for life. They now equate the Holy Ghost prompting with satan and this will be their "covenant path" from now on.



"There are 15 on the earth today, you can trust them completely." -President Nelson (Jan 2022)

[JuneBug12000]

I was looking up the video of Oaks where he says it's wrong for members to criticize leaders even if the criticism is true and found this unusual comment below the video:

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@stephenjackson7797
2 years ago (edited)
Here's a bit of history most do not know. Oaks was president of BYU when I was there 1975-1979 (I finished my four years in 2-1/2 years even though I also did a mission...). Oaks had implemented a program at BYU to give a set number of students, including myself, Steve Benson (grandson of Ezra), Pat Bagley, a granddaughter of Kimball, etc. a preview of the essays that eventually had to be written in about 2014 or so. In it, we were given the whole story of the church's fallacies and problems, even more so than the essays address.

We were taught how to criticize old church leaders when their pronouncements were overturned later. Oaks had been under pressure to create a group of highly intelligent students who could compete with the Harvard types. He also wanted us to be able to go back to our wards and counter negative stuff with our teachings on how to correctly criticize old leaders' incorrect "doctrines".

His plan backfired. All of us left the church in the early 1980s, at least informally, and most of us became vocal critics of it. So Oaks' response was a crackdown on BYU to eliminate all of those who taught us this "nonsense" that he had put in place, and to install a policy of temple attendance for all BYU professors. So everyone is missing the fact that this was a reaction by Oaks to his failed attempt to teach us how to criticize church leaders the "correct" way, before he decided there was no "correct" way to do so.

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Oaks speaks at about 30 seconds. I actually can understand the reasoning behind this but the smirk gives him away.

WOW!


(And I don't mean word of wisdom)

[Atrasado]

I was looking up the video of Oaks where he says it's wrong for members to criticize leaders even if the criticism is true and found this unusual comment below the video:

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@stephenjackson7797
2 years ago (edited)
Here's a bit of history most do not know. Oaks was president of BYU when I was there 1975-1979 (I finished my four years in 2-1/2 years even though I also did a mission...). Oaks had implemented a program at BYU to give a set number of students, including myself, Steve Benson (grandson of Ezra), Pat Bagley, a granddaughter of Kimball, etc. a preview of the essays that eventually had to be written in about 2014 or so. In it, we were given the whole story of the church's fallacies and problems, even more so than the essays address.

We were taught how to criticize old church leaders when their pronouncements were overturned later. Oaks had been under pressure to create a group of highly intelligent students who could compete with the Harvard types. He also wanted us to be able to go back to our wards and counter negative stuff with our teachings on how to correctly criticize old leaders' incorrect "doctrines".

His plan backfired. All of us left the church in the early 1980s, at least informally, and most of us became vocal critics of it. So Oaks' response was a crackdown on BYU to eliminate all of those who taught us this "nonsense" that he had put in place, and to install a policy of temple attendance for all BYU professors. So everyone is missing the fact that this was a reaction by Oaks to his failed attempt to teach us how to criticize church leaders the "correct" way, before he decided there was no "correct" way to do so.

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Oaks speaks at about 30 seconds. I actually can understand the reasoning behind this but the smirk gives him away.

That's very, very interesting. Was that program inspiration? Oaks had been behind some really sketchy things.