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This is a fairly long piece, written by A.Z. Adams, one of the leaders of Homestead Heritage, and Heritage Ministries, that I have talked about before. Although it is a long read, it really resonates with me, and I am always left scratching my head about why LDS leaders can't understand and say things like this. It is a clear indication to me that their fruits betray them.

https://azadams.com/the-coming-reset-and-opportunity/

If anyone else can be bothered to take the time to read it, I will be interested in their thoughts.

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It is really long. 🙂

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Yes, it's not a shallow piece. These are not shallow people.

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About ¾ the through…

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BigT wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 6:37 am About ¾ the through…
Please return and report on your thoughts.

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Gonna listen with a text to speech while I work..

Edit: the online text to speech only let me listen to about 4 or 5 minutes worth. I'll have to read it later. Very thoughtfully written so far. Not surprising to me, though.

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my computer is saying that it is a security risk ? it won't let me over-ride it. Something about the url . My computer does this once in a while and I've never gotten to the bottom of it.

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tmac wrote: ↑October 29th, 2024, 9:02 am This is a fairly long piece, written by A.Z. Adams, one of the leaders of Homestead Heritage, and Heritage Ministries, that I have talked about before. Although it is a long read, it really resonates with me, and I am always left scratching my head about why LDS leaders can't understand and say things like this. It is a clear indication to me that their fruits betray them.

https://azadams.com/the-coming-reset-and-opportunity/

If anyone else can be bothered to take the time to read it, I will be interested in their thoughts.
I just skimmed it, but essentially he gives all the reasons he believes America must collapse and God's Kingdom will be set up. That's also what our church has been teaching for as long as it has existed, by preaching the Book of Mormon as a pattern for our day, and the establishment of Zion as the end goal. If one reads the Book of Mormon, it's clear that society collapses when it get wicked enough, and only the very righteous are preserved by God's power. We should all trust God that he will keep with the pattern set forth in the Book of Mormon.

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Sarah wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 3:31 pm
tmac wrote: ↑October 29th, 2024, 9:02 am This is a fairly long piece, written by A.Z. Adams, one of the leaders of Homestead Heritage, and Heritage Ministries, that I have talked about before. Although it is a long read, it really resonates with me, and I am always left scratching my head about why LDS leaders can't understand and say things like this. It is a clear indication to me that their fruits betray them.

https://azadams.com/the-coming-reset-and-opportunity/

If anyone else can be bothered to take the time to read it, I will be interested in their thoughts.
I just skimmed it, but essentially he gives all the reasons he believes America must collapse and God's Kingdom will be set up. That's also what our church has been teaching for as long as it has existed, by preaching the Book of Mormon as a pattern for our day, and the establishment of Zion as the end goal. If one reads the Book of Mormon, it's clear that society collapses when it get wicked enough, and only the very righteous are preserved by God's power. We should all trust God that he will keep with the pattern set forth in the Book of Mormon.
That's a pretty good, short summation of an otherwise long and complex piece that goes into a whole lot more detail. In my view the biggest difference between Heritage Ministries and the current LDS Church in that regard is that Heritage is actually on track to building Zion societies, and actually doing it. I've been talking about them since I first discovered them and visited their Texas community over 10 years ago, and then hadn't been paying much attention for the a few years. When I did recently check-in to see what they were up to, I was quite surprised to see that they have experienced a remarkable amount of growth and development, and now have over a dozen communities in 10 countries on five different continents. Knowing what I do about them, when it comes to "actions speak louder than words," "the proof is in the pudding," lived religion, and "by their fruits ye shall know them," it is pretty clear to me that they seem to be doing God's will with wind in their sails from His abundant blessing. In terms of a lived gospel and Zion-like society, they actually practice what the LDS Church preached 50-100+ years ago, and has never succeeded in pulling off. They are much more of a model of a Zion-like society than the LDS Church is.

This may be one of the reasons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg-fcwpNnLE
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These guys are right up the road from me....well, and hour and a half or so...Waco, TX. I'll have to pay them a visit at some point. I think they have some community events, shops etc...

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tmac wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 3:54 pm This may be one of the reasons: [youtube]watch?v=Qg-fcwpNnLE[/youtube]

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Sarah wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 3:31 pm
tmac wrote: ↑October 29th, 2024, 9:02 am This is a fairly long piece, written by A.Z. Adams, one of the leaders of Homestead Heritage, and Heritage Ministries, that I have talked about before. Although it is a long read, it really resonates with me, and I am always left scratching my head about why LDS leaders can't understand and say things like this. It is a clear indication to me that their fruits betray them.

https://azadams.com/the-coming-reset-and-opportunity/

If anyone else can be bothered to take the time to read it, I will be interested in their thoughts.
I just skimmed it, but essentially he gives all the reasons he believes America must collapse and God's Kingdom will be set up. That's also what our church has been teaching for as long as it has existed, by preaching the Book of Mormon as a pattern for our day, and the establishment of Zion as the end goal. If one reads the Book of Mormon, it's clear that society collapses when it get wicked enough, and only the very righteous are preserved by God's power. We should all trust God that he will keep with the pattern set forth in the Book of Mormon.
But when was the last time that the GA's actually spoke in detail about last days prophecy and preparing or the collapse? It fell out of vogue with the corporate church and it's Babylonian cronies in the 1990s. Now the Q15 tell us to beware of such things and label them as conspiracies. It's clear they don't actually believe the Book of Mormon. You know we've come full circle when the fringe groups and even non Mormons put more faith in the BoM than the mainstream LDS do.

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ajax wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 4:14 pm These guys are right up the road from me....well, and hour and a half or so...Waco, TX. I'll have to pay them a visit at some point. I think they have some community events, shops etc...
They have a huge Fall Festival on Thanksgiving weekend. That would be a great time to check them out. Although I was aware of them prior to that, it was my attendance of their Thanksgiving Fair over 10 years ago that really got my attention. And now I see that they have essentially duplicated that same model, to varying degrees, in over a dozen other locations around the world.

Thanks Marc for embedding the video. I tried and tried to pull it off, but have still not been able to figure out how to master that and crack that nut with current format(s).

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blitzinstripes wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 4:20 pm
Sarah wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 3:31 pm
tmac wrote: ↑October 29th, 2024, 9:02 am This is a fairly long piece, written by A.Z. Adams, one of the leaders of Homestead Heritage, and Heritage Ministries, that I have talked about before. Although it is a long read, it really resonates with me, and I am always left scratching my head about why LDS leaders can't understand and say things like this. It is a clear indication to me that their fruits betray them.

https://azadams.com/the-coming-reset-and-opportunity/

If anyone else can be bothered to take the time to read it, I will be interested in their thoughts.
I just skimmed it, but essentially he gives all the reasons he believes America must collapse and God's Kingdom will be set up. That's also what our church has been teaching for as long as it has existed, by preaching the Book of Mormon as a pattern for our day, and the establishment of Zion as the end goal. If one reads the Book of Mormon, it's clear that society collapses when it get wicked enough, and only the very righteous are preserved by God's power. We should all trust God that he will keep with the pattern set forth in the Book of Mormon.
But when was the last time that the GA's actually spoke in detail about last days prophecy and preparing or the collapse? It fell out of vogue with the corporate church and it's Babylonian cronies in the 1990s. Now the Q15 tell us to beware of such things and label them as conspiracies. It's clear they don't actually believe the Book of Mormon. You know we've come full circle when the fringe groups and even non Mormons put more faith in the BoM than the mainstream LDS do.
They tell us to prepare every conference, and most times they do mention temporal preparation as part of that. President Nelson just told us, now is the time to prepare for the second coming. No they don't go into nitty gritty details like talking about political candidates or conspiracy theories, for likely many good reasons. But in my ward, the sisters are given a preparedness sheet every month with a list of things we can try to stock up on.

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Sarah wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 6:11 pm
blitzinstripes wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 4:20 pm
Sarah wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 3:31 pm

I just skimmed it, but essentially he gives all the reasons he believes America must collapse and God's Kingdom will be set up. That's also what our church has been teaching for as long as it has existed, by preaching the Book of Mormon as a pattern for our day, and the establishment of Zion as the end goal. If one reads the Book of Mormon, it's clear that society collapses when it get wicked enough, and only the very righteous are preserved by God's power. We should all trust God that he will keep with the pattern set forth in the Book of Mormon.
But when was the last time that the GA's actually spoke in detail about last days prophecy and preparing or the collapse? It fell out of vogue with the corporate church and it's Babylonian cronies in the 1990s. Now the Q15 tell us to beware of such things and label them as conspiracies. It's clear they don't actually believe the Book of Mormon. You know we've come full circle when the fringe groups and even non Mormons put more faith in the BoM than the mainstream LDS do.
They tell us to prepare every conference, and most times they do mention temporal preparation as part of that. President Nelson just told us, now is the time to prepare for the second coming. No they don't go into nitty gritty details like talking about political candidates or conspiracy theories, for likely many good reasons. But in my ward, the sisters are given a preparedness sheet every month with a list of things we can try to stock up on.
All of their statements are blatantly generic and lack any real substance. Gone are the days of ETB when leaders weren't afraid to speak in plain terms and address things such as political corruption. I thought prophets were supposed to boldly cry repentance, unafraid like Samuel and Jeremiah, or JTB. Its as if they're completely afraid of offending anyone or drawing the ire of their masters. Nelson gives a lukewarm, generic talk about preparing for the second coming but gives no real revelatory advice on what specifically is coming and how to prepare for it. And the fan boys swoon over it like he was Moses parting the Red Sea. I guess the last 100 years overall has set the bar of expectations pretty low for who/ what we will support/ sustain as prophets, seers,and revelators. For a man supposedly the mouthpiece of God, I could get better counsel on preparation by watching any number of decent podcasts. When will the membership stop swooning over him and DEMAND that if he's gonna call himself a prophet he better darn sure have the fruits to back it up. Every ward in the world has a sweet old, elderly man. Not good enough. Do prophet stuff or sit down.

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I just skimmed it, but essentially he gives all the reasons he believes America must collapse and God's Kingdom will be set up. That's also what our church has been used to teaching for as long as it has existed back before it went totally woke and started wearing UN pins, by preaching the Book of Mormon as a pattern for our day, and the establishment of Zion as the end goal.
fixed it for ya....:) But seriously: RMN has set the tone for the past 20 years:
The choice to come unto Christ is not a matter of physical location; it is a matter of individual commitment. People can be “brought to the knowledge of the Lord”39 without leaving their homelands. True, in the early days of the Church, conversion often meant emigration as well. But now the gathering takes place in each nation. The Lord has decreed the establishment of Zion40 in each realm where He has given His Saints their birth and nationality. Scripture foretells that the people “shall be gathered home to the lands of their inheritance, and shall be established in all their lands of promise.”41 “Every nation is the gathering place for its own people.”42 The place of gathering for Brazilian Saints is in Brazil; the place of gathering for Nigerian Saints is in Nigeria; the place of gathering for Korean Saints is in Korea; and so forth. Zion is “the pure in heart.”43 Zion is wherever righteous Saints are. Publications, communications, and congregations are now such that nearly all members have access to the doctrines, keys, ordinances, and blessings of the gospel, regardless of their location.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... l?lang=eng
notice anything? Read the whole talk: he never once says the word "literal", which is the key word in the 10th article of faith. Notice he doesn't even mention the 10th article of faith! How can you give a talk about "the gathering of Israel" without mentioning the article of faith that is all about it? In RMN's world, the gathering of Israel is strictly a spiritual endeavor, not a physical one. Much safer (and cheaper) to set up a spiritual kingdom of God rather than having to commit to actual physical preparation and physical gathering like what JS was trying to do.

so no: the current church is not teaching about zion or the gathering of israel or whatever. Talking about Zion is on the decline as well:

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My thoughts on the article - if only that guy knew the visions of Ether & JS! .

I tend to agree though: Mormons are daily rejecting their birthright to help the remnant of Joseph physically establish Zion by staying enslaved by debt, supporting the Babylon banksters by going along with the systems of babylon - BigAg, BigPharma, BigGov, BigWar, BigTech.

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President Nelson just told us, now is the time to prepare for the second coming.
Yes. Moroni also said that. And Joseph Smith. Tell me again, what new revelation Nelson has brought to the table. How are we better prepared by following him versus studying the scriptures? Tank top garments? Or maybe reversing Monson's use of the term "Mormons"? Amazing stuff, right there. Continuing restoration no doubt!

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mudflap wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 6:39 pm
I just skimmed it, but essentially he gives all the reasons he believes America must collapse and God's Kingdom will be set up. That's also what our church has been used to teaching for as long as it has existed back before it went totally woke and started wearing UN pins, by preaching the Book of Mormon as a pattern for our day, and the establishment of Zion as the end goal.
fixed it for ya....:) But seriously: RMN has set the tone for the past 20 years:
The choice to come unto Christ is not a matter of physical location; it is a matter of individual commitment. People can be “brought to the knowledge of the Lord”39 without leaving their homelands. True, in the early days of the Church, conversion often meant emigration as well. But now the gathering takes place in each nation. The Lord has decreed the establishment of Zion40 in each realm where He has given His Saints their birth and nationality. Scripture foretells that the people “shall be gathered home to the lands of their inheritance, and shall be established in all their lands of promise.”41 “Every nation is the gathering place for its own people.”42 The place of gathering for Brazilian Saints is in Brazil; the place of gathering for Nigerian Saints is in Nigeria; the place of gathering for Korean Saints is in Korea; and so forth. Zion is “the pure in heart.”43 Zion is wherever righteous Saints are. Publications, communications, and congregations are now such that nearly all members have access to the doctrines, keys, ordinances, and blessings of the gospel, regardless of their location.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... l?lang=eng
notice anything? Read the whole talk: he never once says the word "literal", which is the key word in the 10th article of faith. Notice he doesn't even mention the 10th article of faith! How can you give a talk about "the gathering of Israel" without mentioning the article of faith that is all about it? In RMN's world, the gathering of Israel is strictly a spiritual endeavor, not a physical one. Much safer (and cheaper) to set up a spiritual kingdom of God rather than having to commit to actual physical preparation and physical gathering like what JS was trying to do.

so no: the current church is not teaching about zion or the gathering of israel or whatever. Talking about Zion is on the decline as well:

Image

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My thoughts on the article - if only that guy knew the visions of Ether & JS! .

I tend to agree though: Mormons are daily rejecting their birthright to help the remnant of Joseph physically establish Zion by staying enslaved by debt, supporting the Babylon banksters by going along with the systems of babylon - BigAg, BigPharma, BigGov, BigWar, BigTech.
The modern corporate church has discarded much of what Joseph taught including the literal gathering of Israel and building of Zion. Now it's all watered down stuff. 'Spiritual' gathering only. Stay home, build up your own stakes. (But send your kids to BYU to get married and keep sending those checks every week.)

Joseph's last dream makes perfect sense now, seeing what the church has become. I can see why he walked away and let the thieves have their way with it.

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blitzinstripes wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 6:50 pm
mudflap wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 6:39 pm
I just skimmed it, but essentially he gives all the reasons he believes America must collapse and God's Kingdom will be set up. That's also what our church has been used to teaching for as long as it has existed back before it went totally woke and started wearing UN pins, by preaching the Book of Mormon as a pattern for our day, and the establishment of Zion as the end goal.
fixed it for ya....:) But seriously: RMN has set the tone for the past 20 years:
The choice to come unto Christ is not a matter of physical location; it is a matter of individual commitment. People can be “brought to the knowledge of the Lord”39 without leaving their homelands. True, in the early days of the Church, conversion often meant emigration as well. But now the gathering takes place in each nation. The Lord has decreed the establishment of Zion40 in each realm where He has given His Saints their birth and nationality. Scripture foretells that the people “shall be gathered home to the lands of their inheritance, and shall be established in all their lands of promise.”41 “Every nation is the gathering place for its own people.”42 The place of gathering for Brazilian Saints is in Brazil; the place of gathering for Nigerian Saints is in Nigeria; the place of gathering for Korean Saints is in Korea; and so forth. Zion is “the pure in heart.”43 Zion is wherever righteous Saints are. Publications, communications, and congregations are now such that nearly all members have access to the doctrines, keys, ordinances, and blessings of the gospel, regardless of their location.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... l?lang=eng
notice anything? Read the whole talk: he never once says the word "literal", which is the key word in the 10th article of faith. Notice he doesn't even mention the 10th article of faith! How can you give a talk about "the gathering of Israel" without mentioning the article of faith that is all about it? In RMN's world, the gathering of Israel is strictly a spiritual endeavor, not a physical one. Much safer (and cheaper) to set up a spiritual kingdom of God rather than having to commit to actual physical preparation and physical gathering like what JS was trying to do.

so no: the current church is not teaching about zion or the gathering of israel or whatever. Talking about Zion is on the decline as well:

Image

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My thoughts on the article - if only that guy knew the visions of Ether & JS! .

I tend to agree though: Mormons are daily rejecting their birthright to help the remnant of Joseph physically establish Zion by staying enslaved by debt, supporting the Babylon banksters by going along with the systems of babylon - BigAg, BigPharma, BigGov, BigWar, BigTech.
The modern corporate church has discarded much of what Joseph taught including the literal gathering of Israel and building of Zion. Now it's all watered down stuff. 'Spiritual' gathering only. Stay home, build up your own stakes. (But send your kids to BYU to get married and keep sending those checks every week.)

Joseph's last dream makes perfect sense now, seeing what the church has become. I can see why he walked away and let the thieves have their way with it.
Our church leaders inherited the mistakes made by leaders and saints of old, and the present reality of saints living amist and in Babylon, circumstances that would make it impossible to have all the saints have all things common living the laws of stewardship. A group of saints would need to completely cut themselves off from the outside world, which is what Brigham Young was thinking of doing, taking a group of saints that he trusted into the mountains to have all things common. No matter the mistakes and circumstances, it's still the Lord's church and he's using us to bring people into the covenant family of God. Zion is built upon celestial law, and we live in a telestial world.

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Sarah wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 7:01 pm
Our church leaders inherited the mistakes made by leaders and saints of old, and the present reality of saints living amist and in Babylon, circumstances that would make it impossible to have all the saints have all things common living the laws of stewardship. A group of saints would need to completely cut themselves off from the outside world, which is what Brigham Young was thinking of doing, taking a group of saints that he trusted into the mountains to have all things common. No matter the mistakes and circumstances, it's still the Lord's church and he's using us to bring people into the covenant family of God. Zion is built upon celestial law, and we live in a telestial world.
From my perspective, the bottom line is the Church started going off the rails a long, long time ago. And there are no leaders today who are doing anything about that -- if they even understand it. For the most part, they act like they don't even know what they don't know. But they are not really leading anything. At this point, they are just following the World off the cliff.

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blitzinstripes wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 6:43 pm
President Nelson just told us, now is the time to prepare for the second coming.
Yes. Moroni also said that. And Joseph Smith. Tell me again, what new revelation Nelson has brought to the table. How are we better prepared by following him versus studying the scriptures? Tank top garments? Or maybe reversing Monson's use of the term "Mormons"? Amazing stuff, right there. Continuing restoration no doubt!
Is every prophet required to tell something new? Their main job is to cry repentance and President Nelson has certainly done that, plus given us some new policies to chew on. He also is emphasizing the teachings we need to focus on. What would you like that he hasn't given you?

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tmac wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 7:12 pm
Sarah wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 7:01 pm
Our church leaders inherited the mistakes made by leaders and saints of old, and the present reality of saints living amist and in Babylon, circumstances that would make it impossible to have all the saints have all things common living the laws of stewardship. A group of saints would need to completely cut themselves off from the outside world, which is what Brigham Young was thinking of doing, taking a group of saints that he trusted into the mountains to have all things common. No matter the mistakes and circumstances, it's still the Lord's church and he's using us to bring people into the covenant family of God. Zion is built upon celestial law, and we live in a telestial world.
From my perspective, the bottom line is the Church started going off the rails a long, long time ago. And there are no leaders today who are doing anything about that -- if they even understand it. For the most part, they act like they don't even know what they don't know. But they are not really leading anything. At this point, they are just following the World off the cliff.
What would you like them to do?

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mudflap wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 6:39 pm
I just skimmed it, but essentially he gives all the reasons he believes America must collapse and God's Kingdom will be set up. That's also what our church has been used to teaching for as long as it has existed back before it went totally woke and started wearing UN pins, by preaching the Book of Mormon as a pattern for our day, and the establishment of Zion as the end goal.
fixed it for ya....:) But seriously: RMN has set the tone for the past 20 years:
The choice to come unto Christ is not a matter of physical location; it is a matter of individual commitment. People can be “brought to the knowledge of the Lord”39 without leaving their homelands. True, in the early days of the Church, conversion often meant emigration as well. But now the gathering takes place in each nation. The Lord has decreed the establishment of Zion40 in each realm where He has given His Saints their birth and nationality. Scripture foretells that the people “shall be gathered home to the lands of their inheritance, and shall be established in all their lands of promise.”41 “Every nation is the gathering place for its own people.”42 The place of gathering for Brazilian Saints is in Brazil; the place of gathering for Nigerian Saints is in Nigeria; the place of gathering for Korean Saints is in Korea; and so forth. Zion is “the pure in heart.”43 Zion is wherever righteous Saints are. Publications, communications, and congregations are now such that nearly all members have access to the doctrines, keys, ordinances, and blessings of the gospel, regardless of their location.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... l?lang=eng
notice anything? Read the whole talk: he never once says the word "literal", which is the key word in the 10th article of faith. Notice he doesn't even mention the 10th article of faith! How can you give a talk about "the gathering of Israel" without mentioning the article of faith that is all about it? In RMN's world, the gathering of Israel is strictly a spiritual endeavor, not a physical one. Much safer (and cheaper) to set up a spiritual kingdom of God rather than having to commit to actual physical preparation and physical gathering like what JS was trying to do.

so no: the current church is not teaching about zion or the gathering of israel or whatever. Talking about Zion is on the decline as well:

Image

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My thoughts on the article - if only that guy knew the visions of Ether & JS! .

I tend to agree though: Mormons are daily rejecting their birthright to help the remnant of Joseph physically establish Zion by staying enslaved by debt, supporting the Babylon banksters by going along with the systems of babylon - BigAg, BigPharma, BigGov, BigWar, BigTech.
Just because they are not talking about it now doesn't mean the Lord won't direct them to speak of it in the future. In fact, I have seen it.

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Sarah wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 7:16 pm
What would you like them to do?
I don't personally care what they do. They have no accountability to me. But if they claim to be actual PSRs, etc., I would like to see them do what God would have them do, and to bear fruit that clearly demonstrates that is what they are doing.

Regardless of the unpopularity of it, I have a hard time imagining that, at a minimum, God would not have them pushing-back against the World -- much like A.Z. Adams does in the blog post linked in the OP of this thread.. Of the real prophets that I've ever been aware of (in the scriptures), they called Babylon for what it was -- instead of pandering and going awhoring with Babylon.

But just as a pretty simple measuring stick, what is one of the single biggest themes of the BoM? Secret Combinations? Do they exist today? When was the last time these guys talked about that? Why?

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tmac wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 7:31 pm
Sarah wrote: ↑October 30th, 2024, 7:16 pm
What would you like them to do?
I don't personally care what they do. They have no accountability to me. But if they claim to be actual PSRs, etc., I would like to see them do what God would have them do, and to bear fruit that clearly demonstrates that is what they are doing.

Regardless of the unpopularity of it, I have a hard time imagining that, at a minimum, God would not have them pushing-back against the World -- much like A.Z. Adams does in the blog post linked in the OP of this thread.. Of the real prophets that I've ever been aware of (in the scriptures), they called Babylon for what it was -- instead of pandering and going awhoring with Babylon.

But just as a pretty simple measuring stick, what is one of the single biggest themes of the BoM? Secret Combinations? Do they exist today? When was the last time these guys talked about that? Why?
Real prophets tend to identify Babylon as sin and wickedness, and speak out about those things. They usually don't speak out about civil authorities unless commanded by God to do so in person to them individually.

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