I'm looking for a reference for Franklin D. Roosevelt's quote
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I'm looking for a reference for Franklin D. Roosevelt's quote
"Presidents are selected not elected." I have heard this many times but with no reliable reference, can you help?
- gkearney
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Re: I'm looking for a reference for Franklin D. Roosevelt's quote
I do not believe there is no reliable refence for this qoute. It just get attributed to him sort of like fake Mark Twain quotes like:
Now here is a real quote from Franklin Rooservelt that has some bearing on this topic.“It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."
— Radio Address to the New York Herald Tribune Forum (October 26, 1939)"Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth."
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Re: I'm looking for a reference for Franklin D. Roosevelt's quote
I thought that the quote might be in Curtis B. Dall's book: "F.D.R. my exploited Father-in-law." I understand it contains tid-bits of Roosevelt's life but tid-bits which are not well known to the public. I haven't read it but assuming there are some here on the forum who have, I thought I might luck out if someone here could verify it and give me a page #? I hope it's not like the "Let them eat cake" quote attributed to Marie Antoinette.gkearney wrote: ↑September 11th, 2024, 1:16 pm I do not believe there is no reliable refence for this qoute. It just get attributed to him sort of like fake Mark Twain quotes like:Now here is a real quote from Franklin Rooservelt that has some bearing on this topic.“It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."— Radio Address to the New York Herald Tribune Forum (October 26, 1939)"Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth."
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You know right after Trump beat Hillary in the 2016 presidential election, I remember her lashing out at her own staff and as a dig to Trump I remember her saying on TV that: "Trump was selected, not elected." So not only can't I find where FDR first said it but I can't find any reference of Hillary saying the same thing, yet I distinctly remember her saying that. My only explanation is that this stuff is going down the memory hole! It's part and parcel of the media and PTB to gaslight the public!? Not long ago Tucker Carlson was exhorting the pubic not to throw away old books for this very reason. Just be aware of what's going on, is all I can say, and take measures that counter if you can.
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Re: I'm looking for a reference for Franklin D. Roosevelt's quote
NEWS FLASH! I found the quote. It's real, not urban legend. It's in a book entitled: Picking Presidents by Gautam Mukunda.
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Re: I'm looking for a reference for Franklin D. Roosevelt's quote
I wouldn't doubt this. I think in some cases they acquiesce to the will of the people. However, it is absurd to think incredibly wealthy people with immense power are just going to be at the whim of the unwashed masses.
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Re: I'm looking for a reference for Franklin D. Roosevelt's quote
Does the author provide any context to when, to whom, and under what context Roosevelt said this? Or does he simply repeat an apocryphal story?
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Here's a review of the book, it should help provide context.
"If you only read one book to understand how Democrats will, and should, pick a new nominee—and the stakes of the general election—read Picking Presidents, which explains how to judge if a Presidential candidate is worthy of sitting in the Oval Office."—Thomas L. Friedman, New York Times columnist and Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and author
Celebrated leadership expert and political scientist Gautam Mukunda provides a comprehensive, objective, and non-partisan method for answering the most important question in the world: is someone up to the job of president of the United States?
In Picking Presidents, Gautam Mukunda sets his sights on presidential candidates, proposing an objective and tested method to assess whether they will succeed or fail if they win the White House. Combining political science, psychology, organizational behavior, and economics, Picking Presidents will enable every American to cast an informed vote.
In his 2012 book Indispensable, which all but predicted the Trump presidency, Mukunda explained how both the very best and very worst leaders are "unfiltered"—outsiders who take power without the understanding or support of traditional elites. Picking Presidents provides deep analysis of filtered and unfiltered presidents alike, from failed haberdasher and skillful president Harry Truman, to the exceptionally well-qualified—and ultimately reviled—James Buchanan; from Andrew Johnson, who set civil rights back by a century, to Theodore Roosevelt, who evaded party opposition to transform American society. Picking Presidents lays out a clear framework that anyone can use to judge a candidate and answer the all-important question: are they up to the job?
https://www.ucpress.edu/books/picking-p ... /hardcover
"If you only read one book to understand how Democrats will, and should, pick a new nominee—and the stakes of the general election—read Picking Presidents, which explains how to judge if a Presidential candidate is worthy of sitting in the Oval Office."—Thomas L. Friedman, New York Times columnist and Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and author
Celebrated leadership expert and political scientist Gautam Mukunda provides a comprehensive, objective, and non-partisan method for answering the most important question in the world: is someone up to the job of president of the United States?
In Picking Presidents, Gautam Mukunda sets his sights on presidential candidates, proposing an objective and tested method to assess whether they will succeed or fail if they win the White House. Combining political science, psychology, organizational behavior, and economics, Picking Presidents will enable every American to cast an informed vote.
In his 2012 book Indispensable, which all but predicted the Trump presidency, Mukunda explained how both the very best and very worst leaders are "unfiltered"—outsiders who take power without the understanding or support of traditional elites. Picking Presidents provides deep analysis of filtered and unfiltered presidents alike, from failed haberdasher and skillful president Harry Truman, to the exceptionally well-qualified—and ultimately reviled—James Buchanan; from Andrew Johnson, who set civil rights back by a century, to Theodore Roosevelt, who evaded party opposition to transform American society. Picking Presidents lays out a clear framework that anyone can use to judge a candidate and answer the all-important question: are they up to the job?
https://www.ucpress.edu/books/picking-p ... /hardcover
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That's nice publisher's boilerplate but doesn't really answer the question I posed.GeeR wrote: ↑September 20th, 2024, 12:38 pm Here's a review of the book, it should help provide context.
"If you only read one book to understand how Democrats will, and should, pick a new nominee—and the stakes of the general election—read Picking Presidents, which explains how to judge if a Presidential candidate is worthy of sitting in the Oval Office."—Thomas L. Friedman, New York Times columnist and Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and author
Celebrated leadership expert and political scientist Gautam Mukunda provides a comprehensive, objective, and non-partisan method for answering the most important question in the world: is someone up to the job of president of the United States?
In Picking Presidents, Gautam Mukunda sets his sights on presidential candidates, proposing an objective and tested method to assess whether they will succeed or fail if they win the White House. Combining political science, psychology, organizational behavior, and economics, Picking Presidents will enable every American to cast an informed vote.
In his 2012 book Indispensable, which all but predicted the Trump presidency, Mukunda explained how both the very best and very worst leaders are "unfiltered"—outsiders who take power without the understanding or support of traditional elites. Picking Presidents provides deep analysis of filtered and unfiltered presidents alike, from failed haberdasher and skillful president Harry Truman, to the exceptionally well-qualified—and ultimately reviled—James Buchanan; from Andrew Johnson, who set civil rights back by a century, to Theodore Roosevelt, who evaded party opposition to transform American society. Picking Presidents lays out a clear framework that anyone can use to judge a candidate and answer the all-important question: are they up to the job?
https://www.ucpress.edu/books/picking-p ... /hardcover
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Re: I'm looking for a reference for Franklin D. Roosevelt's quote
I believe that quote is the overall theme of the book. You can see quite a bit of the book, including the quote, if you go to Amazon and click "Read Sample".
https://www.amazon.com/Picking-Presiden ... 0520379993
Technically the electoral college picks the presidents so maybe that is part of the book. I am not sure.
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Re: I'm looking for a reference for Franklin D. Roosevelt's quote
I wish it were the electoral college but that's wishful thinking. It's most likely the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).Telavian wrote: ↑September 20th, 2024, 1:09 pmI believe that quote is the overall theme of the book. You can see quite a bit of the book, including the quote, if you go to Amazon and click "Read Sample".
https://www.amazon.com/Picking-Presiden ... 0520379993
Technically the electoral college picks the presidents so maybe that is part of the book. I am not sure.
Former Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) archivist and Georgetown University professor Carroll Quigley, who is known as being President Bill Clinton’s mentor, wrote in his 1966 book "Tragedy and Hope"—
"The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers."
"Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy." Tragedy & Hope, pp. 1247-1248
Globalist Behind the American Empire—all about the CFR By Dr. Harold Pease
"For most of a hundred years no candidate for president obtained office without Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) approval."
https://www.middlesboronews.com/2018/04 ... an-empire/
"The admitted goal of the CFR is to abolish the Constitution and replace our once Independent Republic with a World Goverment. CFR members have controlled the last six administrations. (None Dare Call It Conspriacy by Gary Allen p.74)
And we all thought we were living under a Democracy and even in the Church we all thought we had Common Consent i.e. Democracy, what a joke! Liars all! Now you all know why the Untied States of America is not a Consitiutional Republic any more but an empire, as described in Ezra's Eagle Prophecy and part of the fourth beast seen by Daniel.