Should the Church Promote Vaccines?

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Jamescm wrote: May 8th, 2023, 8:08 am The science behind vaccines is sound. Body receives a negative stressor, body adapts to overcome it. That's a tried and true concept whether talking about the immune system, the muscular-skeletal system, or the quantity and quality of the brain's neural pathways.
Even with that, there are issues. The most obvious thing is that bug mutate. They've done so continually so that they can attack those who are resistant to previous strains.

I agree with most of your other points.

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As for negative stressors, the old waxxines contain mercury and other heavy metals. These somehow have what to do with the immune system? Oh it forces the immune system to do more work, so it looks like it is working.

Yea, you force a car to run at 150 miles per hour, and yea the engine works sure.

The brain doesn't have much of a neural system left after all these heavy metal injections. Just look at the stats of people who are waxed vs those who are not, in terms of intelligence and how they scored on the tests.

Discernment is a lot easier for one group.

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We either will support God or Satan. We have watchman here at the forum who have been warning us such as Ymarsakar and others to the public to wake up from the deceit church headquarters is doing (or not doing). They won't follow the scriptures anymore, especially Revelations and even the Articles of Faith. Pharmakeia, Pharmakeia, Pharmakeia. Should we say more?

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Lots of sudden deaths lately! Was a doctor, so probably had lots of COVID vax.

New bishop called at LDS church in Tupelo after former bishop's sudden death
A new bishop has been called at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Tupelo following the sudden death of the former bishop last month.

Gabe Rulewicz, a 48-year-old Tupelo native, was called as bishop of the Tupelo ward on Sunday, May 7. The 1993 Tupelo High School graduate has worked as an orthopedic surgeon at the Orthopaedic Institute of North Mississippi since 2012.

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Jamescm wrote: May 8th, 2023, 8:08 am The science behind vaccines is sound. Body receives a negative stressor, body adapts to overcome it. That's a tried and true concept whether talking about the immune system, the muscular-skeletal system, or the quantity and quality of the brain's neural pathways.


The only real solution I know to this, right now, is to have an occasional sickness party, avoid stupid things, and get the healthy work/eat/rest triad going with at least an occasional fast.
That's actually a misconception as to how the body works, however it does seem as though it is the case, if you assume causes of sickness are from tiny organisms infecting the body that come from outside of the body .
It is worth noting that, according to Pasteur's grandson, his grandfather, nearing the end of his life, admitted he was wrong about vaccines and Bechamp was right: it's the terrain.

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No they shouldn't but they have shares in both Pfizer and Moderna $$

https://www.infowars.com/posts/watch-th ... l-trailer/

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Sunain wrote: May 30th, 2023, 9:25 am Lots of sudden deaths lately! Was a doctor, so probably had lots of COVID vax.

New bishop called at LDS church in Tupelo after former bishop's sudden death
A new bishop has been called at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Tupelo following the sudden death of the former bishop last month.

Gabe Rulewicz, a 48-year-old Tupelo native, was called as bishop of the Tupelo ward on Sunday, May 7. The 1993 Tupelo High School graduate has worked as an orthopedic surgeon at the Orthopaedic Institute of North Mississippi since 2012.
Tupelo is a nice small town. He probably died of natural causes. The church will undoubtedly have a funeral service for him and say he was needed to count tithing and run young men's programs on the other side.

Seriously, I feel for this guy. He was 48 and left behind a family who no longer have a dad. The mom will have to remarry or be the outcast in her circles. Four kids no father and no real youth programs to help guide with male role model. Furthermore, he was an eye doctor. Chances are he was the sole breadwinner for the family. Hope they like cleaning toilets to get assistance from the church if they need it. This is terrible for them.

Families can be together forever faster now just take your shots. Follow the prophet's picture on twitter or instagram. May God take his vengeance on the people responsible for having caused it and those culprits who have led them into it.

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What about all the adulterated batches that have been dispatched during Covid?
What about the graphene oxide that is in the Covid Vaxx?
What about the encephalitis that all children experience when given the MMRI because of the preservatives?
What about all the poisonous adjuvants added to the vaccines?

Pure vaccines aren't the problem, it's all the adjuvants added and the adulterated batches that only God knows what's in them!
Just better to not have any in the first place!!

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Arm Chair Quarterback wrote: May 6th, 2023, 11:36 pm The church recently updated the church handbook of instructions with language in support of vaccination. The handbook also directs members to make their own decisions. Is it a good idea for a religious organization to dabble in vaccines and public health? Should the church stop talking about vaccinations or should they continue their very public support for vaccinations?

Here's the Deseret News article about the updated handbook: https://www.deseret.com/faith/2021/3/31 ... mormon-lds
The church is wrong on this.

But the church is still true. Why? (Honest errors).

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Wrong but still Right - Orwellian Doublespeak

We do not apologize - This what evil people or psychopaths do
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2022/03 ... ys-church/

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Honest errors? Deaths are honest errors?

17 year old preparing for a mission - most likely got shots as knew required as a missionary
https://www.theblaze.com/news/wyoming-b ... denly-died.

48 Bishop dies suddenly - yep its the new natural causes these days - anything but the literal godsend
https://www.djournal.com/lifestyle/reli ... 815d2.html

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Good & Global wrote: June 4th, 2023, 4:42 pm Honest errors? Deaths are honest errors?

17 year old preparing for a mission - most likely got shots as knew required as a missionary
https://www.theblaze.com/news/wyoming-b ... denly-died.

48 Bishop dies suddenly - yep its the new natural causes these days - anything but the literal godsend
https://www.djournal.com/lifestyle/reli ... 815d2.html
As I said on another thread

There’s no point in arguing logic withthe church is always going to be true, no matter what they do” crowd!

Their extreme biases won’t allow them to consider anything outside of their irrational worldview.”

But I commend your efforts. Someone has to try and get through to them!

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Missionary had to come home after 10 months of service because he had vaccine induced encephalitis.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CtKxn30sH3L ... I4NDBkZg==

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Wolfwoman wrote: June 8th, 2023, 10:04 am Missionary had to come home after 10 months of service because he had vaccine induced encephalitis.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CtKxn30sH3L ... I4NDBkZg==
💔
So sad
Sickening
Devastating

Imagine electronic billboards broadcasting these horror stories
and pamphlets in windshields and in grocery stores and UNdoctor offices

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With everyone following the latest thing, I fully expect to see this

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Only for the vaccinated

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The Red Pill wrote: May 7th, 2023, 8:20 am By Q15 simultaneously and incessantly saying they cannot lead you astray along with the "urging" of the Godsend...they entered a very dangerous territory.

They coupled a KNOWN propensity of members willingness to "follow the prophets" with extremely crappy and DEAD WRONG medical advice. This is Jim Jones and the Koolaid territory.

Personally, I feel that because the church has remained silent in the wake of evidence that unquestionably proves the jabs were deadly...they deserve to be sued into oblivion.

They are worried about liability that would diminish their Ensign Peak Advisors slush fund...so much so that they won't even come out and admit that the Godsend is hurting and killing people.

They deserve both barrels of the legal system.
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Fred wrote: May 7th, 2023, 8:08 pm No license has ever proved competence. In the case of the GA doctors, their license expired long ago anyway.

People in positions of authority, or supposed authority, have a responsibility to be trustworthy. One doesn't want the baby sitter raping the children. People go to a doctor to be healed, not killed. Likewise, people expect godly decisions from their church leaders. People that abuse that trust are the scum of the earth.

It is not possible that the Q15 do not know the shot maims and kills. The mRNA jab is a satanic plot to remove the functionality of God's immune system. Everyone behind it is evil. Everyone that promotes it is evil. Anyone that believes the covid narrative is stupid.
This from Fred made laugh out loud:

Anyone that believes the covid narrative is stupid.

Does anyone think Fred is soft pedaling his opinions?

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Arm Chair Quarterback wrote: May 26th, 2024, 6:46 pm
Fred wrote: May 7th, 2023, 8:08 pm No license has ever proved competence. In the case of the GA doctors, their license expired long ago anyway.

People in positions of authority, or supposed authority, have a responsibility to be trustworthy. One doesn't want the baby sitter raping the children. People go to a doctor to be healed, not killed. Likewise, people expect godly decisions from their church leaders. People that abuse that trust are the scum of the earth.

It is not possible that the Q15 do not know the shot maims and kills. The mRNA jab is a satanic plot to remove the functionality of God's immune system. Everyone behind it is evil. Everyone that promotes it is evil. Anyone that believes the covid narrative is stupid.
This from Fred made laugh out loud:

Anyone that believes the covid narrative is stupid.

Does anyone think Fred is soft pedaling his opinions?
Are my opinions correct, or not?

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Fred wrote: May 26th, 2024, 7:38 pm
Arm Chair Quarterback wrote: May 26th, 2024, 6:46 pm
Fred wrote: May 7th, 2023, 8:08 pm No license has ever proved competence. In the case of the GA doctors, their license expired long ago anyway.

People in positions of authority, or supposed authority, have a responsibility to be trustworthy. One doesn't want the baby sitter raping the children. People go to a doctor to be healed, not killed. Likewise, people expect godly decisions from their church leaders. People that abuse that trust are the scum of the earth.

It is not possible that the Q15 do not know the shot maims and kills. The mRNA jab is a satanic plot to remove the functionality of God's immune system. Everyone behind it is evil. Everyone that promotes it is evil. Anyone that believes the covid narrative is stupid.
This from Fred made laugh out loud:

Anyone that believes the covid narrative is stupid.

Does anyone think Fred is soft pedaling his opinions?
Are my opinions correct, or not?
I can't answer that question. It's impossible to judge the correctness or incorrectness of an opinion. If it were a "fact" then I could make a judgement. But an opinion is just that. Opinion. Do I agree with your opinions? Probably 100% or slightly more than that. Is my agreement correct? Who knows. I'm agreeing with an opinion which is just that. Opinion. LOL

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Obeone wrote: June 4th, 2023, 8:28 am
Arm Chair Quarterback wrote: May 6th, 2023, 11:36 pm The church recently updated the church handbook of instructions with language in support of vaccination. The handbook also directs members to make their own decisions. Is it a good idea for a religious organization to dabble in vaccines and public health? Should the church stop talking about vaccinations or should they continue their very public support for vaccinations?

Here's the Deseret News article about the updated handbook: https://www.deseret.com/faith/2021/3/31 ... mormon-lds
The church is wrong on this.

But the church is still true. Why? (Honest errors).
What the church should do is warn its members and the public of conspiring men and women everywhere in the last days. And then people can choose to take the waxx or not.

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I think too often we see this as a black or white binary choice. The idea that vaccines are either completely safe and good, or entirely harmful and evil. This type of reduction is thinking is applied to everything these days.

Should the church have anything to do with your medical practices? Probably not much. I think encouraging members of the church to seek the council of God in their decisions is sufficient interference in the medical decisions of individuals.

The Q15 strongly promoted what has been shown to be a very unsafe shot. This informs me that they can be wrong. And I'm very thankful for this, because it was part of what opened my eyes to what is really going on and the status of the church in our times. See 3 Nephi chapter 16 and our old favorite doctrine and covenants section 84.

I believe that some vaccines in the past have been made with good intent and have been largely effective in their intended use. But, like almost every other thing, it has been corrupted and twisted and misused to further the agendas of conspiring evil men. And so I can't trust vaccines made today, of any kind, because there is no way for me to tell exactly what is in them now.

It's like general conference. There was a time where I felt like I could easily get some real direction and instruction from general conference. But now those instances are few and far between, and are buried in a sea of regurgitated phrases and hero worship.

My point is that any of these things cannot be judged to be good or bad by what they were when they were created, but they must be judged by what they have become, or by the fruits of the people that now control them.

To answer the OP in short, no.

Edit: also, Fred is a necromancer, confirmed. And I think that scripture, where Jesus says that the temple will be destroyed and rebuilt in 3 days, was meant figuratively to represent Jesus's body and his resurrection 3 days later.

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tacocat wrote: May 27th, 2024, 7:25 am I think too often we see this as a black or white binary choice. The idea that vaccines are either completely safe and good, or entirely harmful and evil. This type of reduction is thinking is applied to everything these days.

Should the church have anything to do with your medical practices? Probably not much. I think encouraging members of the church to seek the council of God in their decisions is sufficient interference in the medical decisions of individuals.

The Q15 strongly promoted what has been shown to be a very unsafe shot. This informs me that they can be wrong. And I'm very thankful for this, because it was part of what opened my eyes to what is really going on and the status of the church in our times. See 3 Nephi chapter 16 and our old favorite doctrine and covenants section 84.

I believe that some vaccines in the past have been made with good intent and have been largely effective in their intended use. But, like almost every other thing, it has been corrupted and twisted and misused to further the agendas of conspiring evil men. And so I can't trust vaccines made today, of any kind, because there is no way for me to tell exactly what is in them now.

It's like general conference. There was a time where I felt like I could easily get some real direction and instruction from general conference. But now those instances are few and far between, and are buried in a sea of regurgitated phrases and hero worship.

My point is that any of these things cannot be judged to be good or bad by what they were when they were created, but they must be judged by what they have become, or by the fruits of the people that now control them.

To answer the OP in short, no.

Edit: also, Fred is a necromancer, confirmed. And I think that scripture, where Jesus says that the temple will be destroyed and rebuilt in 3 days, was meant figuratively to represent Jesus's body and his resurrection 3 days later.
I have to disagree...
Necromancy, also called black magic, comes from the ancient Greek word for corpse necro and prophecy mancy. If you travel to the underworld to speak to the dead, then you have the power of necromancy, not to mention geomancy, the ability to read signs from the earth to find the necropolis, or city of the dead.
I wonder what you would base this on? Looks like I can't invite you to the party.

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Fred wrote: May 27th, 2024, 9:47 am
tacocat wrote: May 27th, 2024, 7:25 am I think too often we see this as a black or white binary choice. The idea that vaccines are either completely safe and good, or entirely harmful and evil. This type of reduction is thinking is applied to everything these days.

Should the church have anything to do with your medical practices? Probably not much. I think encouraging members of the church to seek the council of God in their decisions is sufficient interference in the medical decisions of individuals.

The Q15 strongly promoted what has been shown to be a very unsafe shot. This informs me that they can be wrong. And I'm very thankful for this, because it was part of what opened my eyes to what is really going on and the status of the church in our times. See 3 Nephi chapter 16 and our old favorite doctrine and covenants section 84.

I believe that some vaccines in the past have been made with good intent and have been largely effective in their intended use. But, like almost every other thing, it has been corrupted and twisted and misused to further the agendas of conspiring evil men. And so I can't trust vaccines made today, of any kind, because there is no way for me to tell exactly what is in them now.

It's like general conference. There was a time where I felt like I could easily get some real direction and instruction from general conference. But now those instances are few and far between, and are buried in a sea of regurgitated phrases and hero worship.

My point is that any of these things cannot be judged to be good or bad by what they were when they were created, but they must be judged by what they have become, or by the fruits of the people that now control them.

To answer the OP in short, no.

Edit: also, Fred is a necromancer, confirmed. And I think that scripture, where Jesus says that the temple will be destroyed and rebuilt in 3 days, was meant figuratively to represent Jesus's body and his resurrection 3 days later.
I have to disagree...
Necromancy, also called black magic, comes from the ancient Greek word for corpse necro and prophecy mancy. If you travel to the underworld to speak to the dead, then you have the power of necromancy, not to mention geomancy, the ability to read signs from the earth to find the necropolis, or city of the dead.
I wonder what you would base this on? Looks like I can't invite you to the party.
A play on the term necroing the thread. All in good fun.

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I find it interesting that the man who claims to be the only one on earth that holds all Priesthood keys would encourage the members of his flock to take an unproven, dangerous concoction rather than encouraging his Priesthood holders to exercise their faith. If you have faith the size of a mustard seed you can move a mountain? The disciples were able to heal the lepers, the deaf and blind but today's crop can't cure someone with a cold; n'est ce pas?

Mike

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