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My sister sent this around the active part of our family. Prophets: making mistakes vs. leading us astray

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3No2GH ... are_sheet
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Kinda like how they teach that if we pray, Satan will show up, and that the only answer is to wait for "true messengers".

I guess I thought the voice of God came. from within. So... don't trust your insides?

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The Mormon hero is the one who can up with some amazing new excuse for the church, so that the idol can continue to occupy the highest place in everyone's mind. Keeping the idol beyond reproach is the first, second, and third order of business.

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While I watched this my mind was going crazy registering false doctrine.

One of the big ones is the quote by WW about the Lord “won't let me” or any one who leads this church to lead it astray.

How can people just grab onto that quote and accept it as gospel truth? WW says it and that makes it true? No scriptural backup, just the word of man! He’s the prophet so it’s true cause the Lord would kill him if he lied?

What kind of non-sense does this church believe?

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Lineman1012 wrote: February 12th, 2024, 7:56 pm While I watched this my mind was going crazy registering false doctrine.

One of the big ones is the quote by WW about the Lord “won't let me” or any one who leads this church to lead it astray.

How can people just grab onto that quote and accept it as gospel truth? WW says it and that makes it true? No scriptural backup, just the word of man! He’s the prophet so it’s true cause the Lord would kill him if he lied?

What kind of non-sense does this church believe?
Many members of the church believe that God will kill off any prophet who is leading the church astray. Case in point — my uncle, an Institute teacher, fluent in Ancient Greek, and an amazing scriptorian, believed this with all his heart. If a man so well-versed in the Bible and Book of Mormon believes this, anyone can manage it if they want.

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Lizzy60 wrote: February 12th, 2024, 8:01 pm
Lineman1012 wrote: February 12th, 2024, 7:56 pm While I watched this my mind was going crazy registering false doctrine.

One of the big ones is the quote by WW about the Lord “won't let me” or any one who leads this church to lead it astray.

How can people just grab onto that quote and accept it as gospel truth? WW says it and that makes it true? No scriptural backup, just the word of man! He’s the prophet so it’s true cause the Lord would kill him if he lied?

What kind of non-sense does this church believe?
Many members of the church believe that God will kill off any prophet who is leading the church astray. Case in point — my uncle, an Institute teacher, fluent in Ancient Greek, and an amazing scriptorian, believed this with all his heart. If a man so well-versed in the Bible and Book of Mormon believes this, anyone can manage it if they want.
It’s interesting that no one connects WW quote with the fact that he died while away from SLC - did he lead the church astray? was that the Lord’s doing?

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Another false doctrine I picked up on was: resent prophets out-rank old prophets! What kind of barnyard dropping is that?

Old prophets = horse and buggy on the freeway
New prophets = cars going the flow of traffic
Future prophets = flying cars

Why rank the prophets if you are really a prophet? God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. The doctrine should be the same. You shouldn’t have to pit one true prophet against another. It’s only when you need to change the doctrine or ordinances to fit in with Babylon.
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Lineman1012 wrote: February 12th, 2024, 7:32 pm My sister sent this around the active part of our family. Prophets: making mistakes vs. leading us astray

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3No2GH ... are_sheet
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Lol
Wow !! What a load of bologne ! Damage control !
His " key holding servants" The airplane analogy 😖😆 the covenant saints ... " celestial destination..."
Maybe they're feeling the flames through their psr shoes

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Lizzy60 wrote: February 12th, 2024, 8:01 pm
Lineman1012 wrote: February 12th, 2024, 7:56 pm While I watched this my mind was going crazy registering false doctrine.

One of the big ones is the quote by WW about the Lord “won't let me” or any one who leads this church to lead it astray.

How can people just grab onto that quote and accept it as gospel truth? WW says it and that makes it true? No scriptural backup, just the word of man! He’s the prophet so it’s true cause the Lord would kill him if he lied?

What kind of non-sense does this church believe?
Many members of the church believe that God will kill off any prophet who is leading the church astray. Case in point — my uncle, an Institute teacher, fluent in Ancient Greek, and an amazing scriptorian, believed this with all his heart. If a man so well-versed in the Bible and Book of Mormon believes this, anyone can manage it if they want.
That idea was taught like doctrine as long as I can recall

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TwochurchesOnly wrote: February 12th, 2024, 8:39 pm
Lizzy60 wrote: February 12th, 2024, 8:01 pm
Lineman1012 wrote: February 12th, 2024, 7:56 pm While I watched this my mind was going crazy registering false doctrine.

One of the big ones is the quote by WW about the Lord “won't let me” or any one who leads this church to lead it astray.

How can people just grab onto that quote and accept it as gospel truth? WW says it and that makes it true? No scriptural backup, just the word of man! He’s the prophet so it’s true cause the Lord would kill him if he lied?

What kind of non-sense does this church believe?
Many members of the church believe that God will kill off any prophet who is leading the church astray. Case in point — my uncle, an Institute teacher, fluent in Ancient Greek, and an amazing scriptorian, believed this with all his heart. If a man so well-versed in the Bible and Book of Mormon believes this, anyone can manage it if they want.
That idea was taught like doctrine as long as I can recall
Yes it has, but it certainly is not based on scripture.

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Last night, we had a CFM lesson at someone's house. After dinner, and before the lesson started, someone blurted out, "I know the church was restored and we have a living prophet". I thought of the movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers, but it's worse than that... that man CHOSE to have the parasite (metaphorically) invade his brain. I was grossed out and I can tolerate horror movies.
Then, I thought of people who are possessed of a religious spirit. There are many spirits that we welcome into our lives unless we allow Christ to come in. I felt so humbled that I am so powerless. I testified of Jesus Christ but people are so far removed from Christ because of their brainwashing. At least no one persecuted me for testifying that I've seen Christ and He spoke to me, but that day will come.

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Don't ever do your own thinking. Think only what we tell you to think. You can pray, but if your response is different that the Q15, you were simply dealing with an evil spirit. The prophet can not lead you astray.

What part of mind control is not evil?

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The fact that that guy made that video shows that he has been led astray. Now he's doing his part in service to the idol to lead others astray. Mormon hero.

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Lizzy60 wrote: February 12th, 2024, 8:01 pm
Lineman1012 wrote: February 12th, 2024, 7:56 pm While I watched this my mind was going crazy registering false doctrine.

One of the big ones is the quote by WW about the Lord “won't let me” or any one who leads this church to lead it astray.

How can people just grab onto that quote and accept it as gospel truth? WW says it and that makes it true? No scriptural backup, just the word of man! He’s the prophet so it’s true cause the Lord would kill him if he lied?

What kind of non-sense does this church believe?
Many members of the church believe that God will kill off any prophet who is leading the church astray. Case in point — my uncle, an Institute teacher, fluent in Ancient Greek, and an amazing scriptorian, believed this with all his heart. If a man so well-versed in the Bible and Book of Mormon believes this, anyone can manage it if they want.
I think they just don't want to think about it. By their reasoning, given that every church president has died, they must conclude that they have all been leading us astray.

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I just noticed...it was teachings of man, not woman....huh.

I will think on that for a while.

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tribrac wrote: February 13th, 2024, 11:07 am I just noticed...it was teachings of man, not woman....huh.

I will think on that for a while.
This should be MAN as in MANKIND. The kind of man that existed before political correctness and feminism corrupted our language.

English is lacking in some areas anyway. I know Greek has a word that means both man and woman - when the New Testament was translated into English there was no word to replace it with and the closest word was MAN with the reference to MANKIND.

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Lineman1012 wrote: February 12th, 2024, 7:56 pm While I watched this my mind was going crazy registering false doctrine.

One of the big ones is the quote by WW about the Lord “won't let me” or any one who leads this church to lead it astray.

How can people just grab onto that quote and accept it as gospel truth? WW says it and that makes it true? No scriptural backup, just the word of man! He’s the prophet so it’s true cause the Lord would kill him if he lied?

What kind of non-sense does this church believe?
If prophets can be deceived,
BECAUSE they have been deceived,
they could then be leading members astray - which Nelson is doing.
Yet, from his own lips,
and who is leading his members astray - Nelson says no.

The woman in this video asks Nelson -
"President Nelson - would you ever lead anyone astray ? "
Nelson replies - "Oh no"


at this point
https://youtu.be/6BavQ7i-vh0?t=105

or at 1 min. 45 sec.

"INDOCTRINATION" since we were children.

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What does it mean to lead astray?

Truth seekers would say promoting a lie is to lead astray.I suspect church loyalists believe one only goes astray if they are disloyal to the church.

This is the chasm of disagreement that exists between truth seekers and church loyalists. It shows why it is that church loyalists defend dishonesty. They do not believe dishonesty is a sin. But disloyalty is.

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Excerpt from a Improvement Era, June 1945, Ward Teachers’ Message:

“When our leaders speak, the thinking has been done. When they propose a plan — it is God’s plan. When they point the way, there is no other which is safe. When they give direction, it should mark the end of controversy. God works in no other way. To think otherwise, without immediate repentance, may cost one his faith, may destroy his testimony, and leave him a stranger to the kingdom of God. “

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"Learn to do as you are told.....if you are told by your leader to do such a thing, do it, none of your business whether it is right or wrong." (Heber C. Kimball, JoD, vol. 6, p. 32.)

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Chip wrote: February 12th, 2024, 11:21 pm The fact that that guy made that video shows that he has been led astray. Now he's doing his part in service to the idol to lead others astray. Mormon hero.
Yeah, the irony!

Today a non-lds who’s surrounded by lds explained how messed up it is that lds think they’re better than non-lds… & someone pointed out that they are going against the true meaning of Christ when they are so self-righteous and proud.

I was thinking how followers follow leaders who are following past cult followers, in pridefully “never issuing apologies” and other damming things. The 1st of the 4 gospels begins explaining it is a “gospel of REPENTANCE.”

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Robin Hood wrote: February 13th, 2024, 9:13 am
Lizzy60 wrote: February 12th, 2024, 8:01 pm
Many members of the church believe that God will kill off any prophet who is leading the church astray. Case in point — my uncle, an Institute teacher, fluent in Ancient Greek, and an amazing scriptorian, believed this with all his heart. If a man so well-versed in the Bible and Book of Mormon believes this, anyone can manage it if they want.
I think they just don't want to think about it. By their reasoning, given that every church president has died, they must conclude that they have all been leading us astray.
True! 😂

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A Disciple wrote: February 13th, 2024, 9:36 pm What does it mean to lead astray?

Truth seekers would say promoting a lie is to lead astray.I suspect church loyalists believe one only goes astray if they are disloyal to the church.

This is the chasm of disagreement that exists between truth seekers and church loyalists. It shows why it is that church loyalists defend dishonesty. They do not believe dishonesty is a sin. But disloyalty is.
Yeah, I’m increasingly realizing how immoral this church makes its members. Their god is a dysfunctional cult, so how much can you trust them?

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I couldn’t even get through the whole video. 🤥

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Yikes. This man says his church can never be allowed to have a false prophet. But Jesus warned that a lot of people would be allowed to become false prophets to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
Never trust a religion that tells you that you can safely and blindly follow their men, no matter what. Jesus never taught us to blindly trust man - He always pointed to discernment so that we would know who not to trust.

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