Russian court bans 'LGBT movement'

[hideki]

Russia's constitution was changed three years ago to make it clear that marriage means a union between a man and a woman. Same-sex unions are not recognised here.
Ahead of the ruling, I asked Sergei Troshin, a municipal deputy in St Petersburg who came out as gay last year, what effect it would have.
"I think this will mean that anyone whom the state considers an LGBT activist could receive a long prison sentence for 'participating in an extremist organisation'," he said.
"For the organiser of such a group, the prison term will be even longer.
"This is real repression. There is panic in Russia's LGBT community. People are emigrating urgently. The actual word we're using is evacuation. We're having to evacuate from our own country. It's terrible."

At the Duma, the lower house of the Russian parliament, Vitaly Milonov, a famously homophobic MP from the ruling party, United Russia, said the ban on LGBT groups was "not about sexual minorities or the private life of individuals".
"It's more about the political agenda proclaimed by this LGBT international movement," he told me.
"They have their own tasks, their own goals. They act as a political force, a political structure and the goals of this structure contravene the Russian Constitution."
"You talk about a political structure," I responded. "But there isn't a movement called the 'International LGBT public movement.' How can you ban something that doesn't exist?"
"Oh, it's easy," Mr Milonov replied. "We can ban any activities from LGBT international organisations here in Russia. That's nice. We don't need them.
"And I'm looking forward to the next step: banning the six-colour rainbow flag. We don't need this flag. It's a symbol of the fight with the traditional family. I hope that no-one can show this flag in Russia."

Under Vladimir Putin, the Kremlin has embraced an ideology centred around conservative thinking and "traditional family values". The authorities portray LGBT activism as something inherently Western and hostile to Russia. Pressure on the LGBT community is presented as a means of defending the moral fabric of Russia.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67565509

[Dave62]

The Russians really are the 'Lamanites' of the 21st century. Jacob 3: 7

[Sarah]

The Russians really are the 'Lamanites' of the 21st century. Jacob 3: 7

No, the truth comes out from the article. They are only doing this because of the supposed "International movement," and to make an international statement. This isn't about discouraging gay behavior in Russia as its probably normal with the priviledged mobsters. This is about Putin making conservative westerners think he is like them, so that he is seen as the hero standing up to these supposed liberal "globalists" like Kissinger whom he actually was working with. Putin has been part of the conspiracy to push the LGTB agenda in the West, as this was a Soviet goal stated in the 60's and it hasn't changed. Except they have the Chinese fueling the leftists and the Kremlin is fueling the propaganda on the right. They do this to throw us all off. It was also the stated goal in the 60's to influence, stir up, and propagandize people on the left and the right. Russia has a very poor track record on human rights and they encourage domestic abuse. The police and legal system isn't trustworthy. I've read repeatedly that they have the highest abortion rate in the world. The admiration for this announcement is misplaced as it is a deception. What we do know is that the people in Russia are too afraid to even speak, I have this first-hand. The few who are allowed to speak against the government mix their feigned opposition with lies, again to throw everyone off.

[gkearney]

How do you ban a “movement”

[hideki]

This is an automatic translation.
As for the LGBT issue, from the perspective of the Japanese, who have few Christians and are mostly atheists, "We don't exclude homosexuals as long as they don't bother others.
I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, so my opinion is the same as the official Church position.

[Socratic]

[edit - delete]

[abijah]

How do you ban a “movement”

Funny, in how freemasons have such a unique skill at creating movements.

Creating culture = basically Creation, and some are pretty good at this. A+ magic skills.

[hideki]

United Nations ‘human rights’ agreement promotes all manner of sex, ‘irrespective of age’

“It calls on [children] to ‘differentiate between values that they hold, and that their parents/guardians hold about sexuality’ separating children very purposely [from their parents].”
It encourages instructing children to “explore same-sex relationships” and pushes the idea of gender identity.

The comprehensive sexuality education it promotes includes teaching children about different sexual acts, including oral sex, pederasty (sexual pleasure from young boys), bestiality, necrophilia, sadism, masochism, coprophilia, masturbation, voyeurism, exhibitionism, and more.
Then the children share with the group what they learned about these acts.
https://www.liveaction.org/news/united- ... ctive-age/

[Yeliab]

I know Uncle Vlad personally. I met him many years ago in a joint training program. No, I am not defending him in any way but here is the thing. He is no more vile or evil than 500 or so politicians here with emphasis on the upper-level American so-called leadership. Vlad is very iron clad, he is NOT a Communist although, when I met him and got to know him, he was a member of the Commie Party. Americans have been so spoon-fed redacted information about Russia, Vlad and what's going on in Ukraine. Yes, he absolutely 100% against homosexual relationships and he is NOT fearful to speak that out loud. He could care less what the "West" is doing or has done, IF, it does not impact Russia in any way. Unlike the US, his finger is always within inches of THE button. He is NOT afraid to use it either. But he had rather settle things diplomatically and not on the battlefield. He DOES detest the U.S. currently for so many reasons. HE is NOT trying to conquer Ukraine, only trying to reclaim territory that was taken from the Soviet Union way back in the day. The vast majority of citizens in the area under war now, want to be restored to Russia. This is why, on the the Russian side of the situation, it began. Now back to the LGBTQRSTIJKVRZMLMAO group. He and Russia have every right to rule their country according to their Constitutional blueprint. However, WE as Americans or any other group, have ZERO right to say their way is wrong OR right. This is like Mormons telling the Catholics that they are members of the Great Whore of the Earth or that their way of worshipping is wrong. Do we have to agree with Vlad's or Russian Leadership way of ruling their nation? NO! We do NOT have to agree with anyone. But do we have the right to tell another that their way of life is wrong? NOPE. The very reason we are engaged in Ukraine, Taiwan, Iran, Iraq, Gaza, and all the others is simply a matter of money.

When the hostages were taken back in the late 70's by the Ayatollah Komeni, it was only partly done because of Carter granting asylum to the vile, ruthless, wicked, dirty, low-down skunk, the Shaw. The real reason that crisis started was because of US sticking her nose in the business of other nations. Had the U.S. pulled our forces out of the Middle East, with the sole exception of, IF our allies there asked for our assistance, the hostage crisis would never have happened. That one event turned America out. What does that have to with Vlad, you ask? Well, IF the U.S. (Bidens) had not done what they did with the Quid Pro Quo and strong-arm tactics and outright blackmail, Vlad would have been far more amenable to peace instead of war.. All that gobbledy goop said, Vlad/Russia as a whole despise the very existence of homosexual relations. The overwhelming majority of Russian citizens abhor it as well. Believe it or not, Vlad does listen to his countrymen. Does that mean he always does what THEY want? Oh heck no it doesn't. However, in this particular case, Russian leadership and the people as a nation, pretty much believe and live according to a moral code much like our "Proclamation to the World."

My apologies for going on a rant here, that was not my intention. I am just so sick of seeing in the news how back and evil Vlad is. Much like the constant bombardment of the Trans whatever they want to be called this week crap. All the riots and mayhem over George Floyd would likely have been prevented had the M.E. assigned to that case, been allowed to tell the truth about his findings. What's my point here? We should know all or as absolutely much as we can about the person, or situation. IS Vlad a Saint? Oh heck no! IS he evil? Absolutely not. Is he running Russia like we would like to see? LOL not hardly. But it's Country, and THEIR business. Do they have the right to imprison Homosexuals? You better believe they do, It's their country, it's their business. We don't gotta like it.....

[spiritMan]

Good for them!

[spiritMan]

The Russians really are the 'Lamanites' of the 21st century. Jacob 3: 7

No, the truth comes out from the article. They are only doing this because of the supposed "International movement," and to make an international statement. This isn't about discouraging gay behavior in Russia as its probably normal with the priviledged mobsters. This is about Putin making conservative westerners think he is like them, so that he is seen as the hero standing up to these supposed liberal "globalists" like Kissinger whom he actually was working with. Putin has been part of the conspiracy to push the LGTB agenda in the West, as this was a Soviet goal stated in the 60's and it hasn't changed. Except they have the Chinese fueling the leftists and the Kremlin is fueling the propaganda on the right. They do this to throw us all off. It was also the stated goal in the 60's to influence, stir up, and propagandize people on the left and the right. Russia has a very poor track record on human rights and they encourage domestic abuse. The police and legal system isn't trustworthy. I've read repeatedly that they have the highest abortion rate in the world. The admiration for this announcement is misplaced as it is a deception. What we do know is that the people in Russia are too afraid to even speak, I have this first-hand. The few who are allowed to speak against the government mix their feigned opposition with lies, again to throw everyone off.

SMH... boomers who can't or won't acknowledge the world has changed and Russia ain't the Soviet Union.

Under the USSR, the religion of Russia was trashed. They are NOT commies at this point.

There is a heavy resurgence of religion in Russia, with Russia doing everything it can to protect the religion it has adhered to for 800 years..... Russian Orthodox. And ROC is super conservative.

Russia prior to 1918 was a quasi- theocratic, king county. They are returning to that in some fashion.

[spiritMan]

This is an automatic translation.
As for the LGBT issue, from the perspective of the Japanese, who have few Christians and are mostly atheists, "We don't exclude homosexuals as long as they don't bother others.
I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, so my opinion is the same as the official Church position.

Which means as long as one does not have actual sex with the same sex, it's all cool. Homosexual missionaries, dating, romantic engagements all good.

[Sarah]

The Russians really are the 'Lamanites' of the 21st century. Jacob 3: 7

No, the truth comes out from the article. They are only doing this because of the supposed "International movement," and to make an international statement. This isn't about discouraging gay behavior in Russia as its probably normal with the priviledged mobsters. This is about Putin making conservative westerners think he is like them, so that he is seen as the hero standing up to these supposed liberal "globalists" like Kissinger whom he actually was working with. Putin has been part of the conspiracy to push the LGTB agenda in the West, as this was a Soviet goal stated in the 60's and it hasn't changed. Except they have the Chinese fueling the leftists and the Kremlin is fueling the propaganda on the right. They do this to throw us all off. It was also the stated goal in the 60's to influence, stir up, and propagandize people on the left and the right. Russia has a very poor track record on human rights and they encourage domestic abuse. The police and legal system isn't trustworthy. I've read repeatedly that they have the highest abortion rate in the world. The admiration for this announcement is misplaced as it is a deception. What we do know is that the people in Russia are too afraid to even speak, I have this first-hand. The few who are allowed to speak against the government mix their feigned opposition with lies, again to throw everyone off.

SMH... boomers who can't or won't acknowledge the world has changed and Russia ain't the Soviet Union.

Under the USSR, the religion of Russia was trashed. They are NOT commies at this point.

There is a heavy resurgence of religion in Russia, with Russia doing everything it can to protect the religion it has adhered to for 800 years..... Russian Orthodox. And ROC is super conservative.

Russia prior to 1918 was a quasi- theocratic, king county. They are returning to that in some fashion.

I'm not a boomer, but at least there are a few boomers alive who have studied these things and listen to the few defectors who've revealed the plan to deceive the West. It's called the perestroika deception. We can't trust Putin or anything that comes from Russia. The alternative media, which conservatives have been brainwashed into thinking is the only truth, is dominated by Kremlin sponsored individuals pushing the narrative Yelieb just gave.

[Robin Hood]

Russia's constitution was changed three years ago to make it clear that marriage means a union between a man and a woman. Same-sex unions are not recognised here.
Ahead of the ruling, I asked Sergei Troshin, a municipal deputy in St Petersburg who came out as gay last year, what effect it would have.
"I think this will mean that anyone whom the state considers an LGBT activist could receive a long prison sentence for 'participating in an extremist organisation'," he said.
"For the organiser of such a group, the prison term will be even longer.
"This is real repression. There is panic in Russia's LGBT community. People are emigrating urgently. The actual word we're using is evacuation. We're having to evacuate from our own country. It's terrible."

At the Duma, the lower house of the Russian parliament, Vitaly Milonov, a famously homophobic MP from the ruling party, United Russia, said the ban on LGBT groups was "not about sexual minorities or the private life of individuals".
"It's more about the political agenda proclaimed by this LGBT international movement," he told me.
"They have their own tasks, their own goals. They act as a political force, a political structure and the goals of this structure contravene the Russian Constitution."
"You talk about a political structure," I responded. "But there isn't a movement called the 'International LGBT public movement.' How can you ban something that doesn't exist?"
"Oh, it's easy," Mr Milonov replied. "We can ban any activities from LGBT international organisations here in Russia. That's nice. We don't need them.
"And I'm looking forward to the next step: banning the six-colour rainbow flag. We don't need this flag. It's a symbol of the fight with the traditional family. I hope that no-one can show this flag in Russia."

Under Vladimir Putin, the Kremlin has embraced an ideology centred around conservative thinking and "traditional family values". The authorities portray LGBT activism as something inherently Western and hostile to Russia. Pressure on the LGBT community is presented as a means of defending the moral fabric of Russia.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67565509

I think Russia have acted wisely.

[larsenb]

No, the truth comes out from the article. They are only doing this because of the supposed "International movement," and to make an international statement. This isn't about discouraging gay behavior in Russia as its probably normal with the priviledged mobsters. This is about Putin making conservative westerners think he is like them, so that he is seen as the hero standing up to these supposed liberal "globalists" like Kissinger whom he actually was working with. Putin has been part of the conspiracy to push the LGTB agenda in the West, as this was a Soviet goal stated in the 60's and it hasn't changed. Except they have the Chinese fueling the leftists and the Kremlin is fueling the propaganda on the right. They do this to throw us all off. It was also the stated goal in the 60's to influence, stir up, and propagandize people on the left and the right. Russia has a very poor track record on human rights and they encourage domestic abuse. The police and legal system isn't trustworthy. I've read repeatedly that they have the highest abortion rate in the world. The admiration for this announcement is misplaced as it is a deception. What we do know is that the people in Russia are too afraid to even speak, I have this first-hand. The few who are allowed to speak against the government mix their feigned opposition with lies, again to throw everyone off.

SMH... boomers who can't or won't acknowledge the world has changed and Russia ain't the Soviet Union.

Under the USSR, the religion of Russia was trashed. They are NOT commies at this point.

There is a heavy resurgence of religion in Russia, with Russia doing everything it can to protect the religion it has adhered to for 800 years..... Russian Orthodox. And ROC is super conservative.

Russia prior to 1918 was a quasi- theocratic, king county. They are returning to that in some fashion.

I'm not a boomer, but at least there are a few boomers alive who have studied these things and listen to the few defectors who've revealed the plan to deceive the West. It's called the perestroika deception. We can't trust Putin or anything that comes from Russia. The alternative media, which conservatives have been brainwashed into thinking is the only truth, is dominated by Kremlin sponsored individuals pushing the narrative Yelieb just gave.

Joel Skousen would certainly agree with you.

[Sarah]

SMH... boomers who can't or won't acknowledge the world has changed and Russia ain't the Soviet Union.

Under the USSR, the religion of Russia was trashed. They are NOT commies at this point.

There is a heavy resurgence of religion in Russia, with Russia doing everything it can to protect the religion it has adhered to for 800 years..... Russian Orthodox. And ROC is super conservative.

Russia prior to 1918 was a quasi- theocratic, king county. They are returning to that in some fashion.

I'm not a boomer, but at least there are a few boomers alive who have studied these things and listen to the few defectors who've revealed the plan to deceive the West. It's called the perestroika deception. We can't trust Putin or anything that comes from Russia. The alternative media, which conservatives have been brainwashed into thinking is the only truth, is dominated by Kremlin sponsored individuals pushing the narrative Yelieb just gave.

Joel Skousen would certainly agree with you.

Might be too little too late. For awhile he was trying to mesh both narratives because the globalist narrative was so popular, especially with Alex Jones.

[BuriedTartaria]

The Russians really are the 'Lamanites' of the 21st century. Jacob 3: 7

No, the truth comes out from the article. They are only doing this because of the supposed "International movement," and to make an international statement. This isn't about discouraging gay behavior in Russia as its probably normal with the priviledged mobsters. This is about Putin making conservative westerners think he is like them, so that he is seen as the hero standing up to these supposed liberal "globalists" like Kissinger whom he actually was working with. Putin has been part of the conspiracy to push the LGTB agenda in the West, as this was a Soviet goal stated in the 60's and it hasn't changed. Except they have the Chinese fueling the leftists and the Kremlin is fueling the propaganda on the right. They do this to throw us all off. It was also the stated goal in the 60's to influence, stir up, and propagandize people on the left and the right. Russia has a very poor track record on human rights and they encourage domestic abuse. The police and legal system isn't trustworthy. I've read repeatedly that they have the highest abortion rate in the world. The admiration for this announcement is misplaced as it is a deception. What we do know is that the people in Russia are too afraid to even speak, I have this first-hand. The few who are allowed to speak against the government mix their feigned opposition with lies, again to throw everyone off.

SMH... boomers who can't or won't acknowledge the world has changed and Russia ain't the Soviet Union.

There is definitely some heavy “Russia will always be evil! And a threat to America!” boomer energy here. It’s not 1978 anymore. Boomers who can’t accept that the social, political, and cultural landscape has changed are going to be left in the dust of a changing world seeking to find freedom from the institutional evil that poisoned the US and Western culture at large.

The establishment military industrial complex upheld by establishment politicians has been pouring billions into funding a war against Russia while the heart of America (the middle class) declines. They are afraid of Russia. They do not care about the American middle/poor class. Boomers are unfortunately old bottles that can not handle taking in new wine. Not all of them, certainly not all of them, but too many of them are this way. They aren’t teachable or humble. Ignorant braggarts that got theirs during peaceful times and have near a zero grasp on the pulse of the current situation and the winds of change in the air.

[Sarah]

No, the truth comes out from the article. They are only doing this because of the supposed "International movement," and to make an international statement. This isn't about discouraging gay behavior in Russia as its probably normal with the priviledged mobsters. This is about Putin making conservative westerners think he is like them, so that he is seen as the hero standing up to these supposed liberal "globalists" like Kissinger whom he actually was working with. Putin has been part of the conspiracy to push the LGTB agenda in the West, as this was a Soviet goal stated in the 60's and it hasn't changed. Except they have the Chinese fueling the leftists and the Kremlin is fueling the propaganda on the right. They do this to throw us all off. It was also the stated goal in the 60's to influence, stir up, and propagandize people on the left and the right. Russia has a very poor track record on human rights and they encourage domestic abuse. The police and legal system isn't trustworthy. I've read repeatedly that they have the highest abortion rate in the world. The admiration for this announcement is misplaced as it is a deception. What we do know is that the people in Russia are too afraid to even speak, I have this first-hand. The few who are allowed to speak against the government mix their feigned opposition with lies, again to throw everyone off.

SMH... boomers who can't or won't acknowledge the world has changed and Russia ain't the Soviet Union.

There is definitely some heavy “Russia will always be evil! And a threat to America!” boomer energy here. It’s not 1978 anymore. Boomers who can’t accept that the social, political, and cultural landscape has changed are going to be left in the dust of a changing world seeking to find freedom from the institutional evil that poisoned the US and Western culture at large.

The establishment military industrial complex upheld by establishment politicians has been pouring billions into funding a war against Russia while the heart of America (the middle class) declines. They are afraid of Russia. They do not care about the American middle/poor class. Boomers are unfortunately old bottles that can not handle taking in new wine. Not all of them, certainly not all of them, but too many of them are this way. They aren’t teachable or humble. Ignorant braggarts that got theirs during peaceful times and have near a zero grasp on the pulse of the current situation and the winds of change in the air.

The institional evil that has poisoned the West has come mostly from the communist conspiracy and their western stooges. If the scaredy-cat Boomers, and the American MIC were really in charge of things, then you would see a country that is actually ready and able to take them on. But we aren't. We have a military that is run-down and labeled mediocre, weapon stockpiles dwindling, strategic reserves gone, and plenty of evidence of those in successive white houses having ties with Chinese and Russian interests. Either way Russia wins. They have convinced you that their hidden agenda is all hysteria, and have played the victim, so that when they do act, they can claim they had no other choice because of so-called western aggression that was misplaced and provocative. Its a truely narcissistic stance and manipulation tactic. When they do attack, conservatives will lay down their weapons saying "it was all our fault!" "Putin, Xi, take me under your conservative wing and protect me from Biden, Soros and Klauss, Jews, the Fed, and liberals!"

[hideki]

This is an automatic translation.
The United States is a victorious nation and has the strongest military power in the world.
Furthermore, in America, the government is controlled by Satan and a secret society of Satanists.
Japan is a vassal country of the United States.
When Japanese politicians rebel against America, they are ousted or killed.
Japan is paying for America's wars.

Recently, Japan has been in turmoil due to "Political Correctness" coming from America.
Most Japanese people were atheists and did not persecute homosexuals like in the West.
In ancient Japan, homosexuals were considered abnormal, immoral, shameful, and even looked down upon.

In my personal opinion, America today is anti-Christian.
A city full of homeless zombie-like drug addicts.
Group theft is rampant.
There are many murders by guns in schools.
Unhealthy eating and lifestyle.
There is a huge gap between rich and poor.
There is a huge difference in intelligence and academic ability.

Japan is Babylon, but American cities are also Babylon.

Japan once respected Christians and good Americans.
A father who values women and family, and whose job is to be a father.
Americans live in clean, spacious homes with their pets and go to church on Sundays.
There are many good people who help the weak.
And there are a few saints who are faithful members of the Church.
And Americans are cool.
Especially the women are beautiful.

[logicalheart]

SMH... boomers who can't or won't acknowledge the world has changed and Russia ain't the Soviet Union.

Sarah is correct. Soviet defectors explained that this is part of a long term plan developed in the 1960s to fake the destruction of Soviet Russia as a way to strengthen their global positioning to try and conquer the world again in the future. They also said that Ukraine would be invaded. That is why I knew Russia would invade Ukraine years before they did, and was able to warn other people that it was going to happen. We already knew the plan was for Russia to succeed, and at minimum would be allowed to take parts of East Ukraine. Just like China, they will keep expanding their influence and military strength and infiltrating all nations until the United States is weak enough to be attacked directly with minimal losses for Russia and China.

[hideki]

This is an automatic translation.

Is it a permissible freedom to say, "It is up to the individual to decide his or her gender?"

God does not allow it.
In other words, if you were born male in this life, you were male in a previous life.
One less intelligent Japanese church member said.
"If your gender identity is different from your physical body, God mistakenly put your spirit in a different body."

God sees and loves homosexuals, as is the official Church position.

So, are they allowed under the rules of each country's society?
In Japan, where there are many non-religious people, most people believe that it is permissible as long as it does not bother others.

[ransomme]

Sin cannot tolerate God's presence, and vice versa. God being love does not cancel that effect.

What does that mean for us?
What does love your neighbor mean?

And just because you are supposed to love your enemy didn't mean that you don't protect yourself.

Is there one right solution?

[InfoWarrior82]

Based

[BeNotDeceived]

How do you ban a “movement”

Funny, in how freemasons have such a unique skill at creating movements.

Creating culture = basically Creation, and some are pretty good at this. A+ magic skills.

Beam me up Scotty.