I think we'll both agree we were not created, that we always existed.kirtland r.m. wrote: ↑October 2nd, 2023, 5:49 pm Alright Shawn, if you will now answer my question, I will go more in depth on what you are saying. And my question is, how and when did God create you? Also, it helps if you want to assert a scriptural claim, you give the scripture you are referring to (in your case Book of M.).
There are numerous references to God always being God, but here is one from Mosiah 3:5.
For behold, the time cometh, and is not far distant, that with power, the Lord Omnipotent who reigneth, who was, and is from all eternity to all eternity, shall come down from heaven among the children of men, and shall dwell in a tabernacle of clay,
And Mosiah 16:15 Teach them that redemption cometh through Christ the Lord, who is the very Eternal Father. Amen.
Also, in Alma 11 Zeezrom asks Amulek: "Now Zeezrom saith again unto him: Is the Son of God the very Eternal Father?"
"And Amulek said unto him: Yea, he is the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth, and all things which in them are; he is the beginning and the end, the first and the last;"
How was he "the very Eternal Father" with a capital E and capital F at a time when he just our older brother who hadn't yet overcome a single sin or set foot in a mortal body?
It is plain to see that this is the very thing that Zeezrom is asking, is Jesus also God the Father. Why would Amulek mislead him and not simply say no he is just the Son of the very Eternal Father, but he will sort of be our Father one day?