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LDS Physician
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Isaiah 28:15

"Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we hav made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves;"

Isaiah 28:18

"And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it."

It seems the church is sucking up to the very tip of the sword that will very soon be leading the alliance chopping down this tree.

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endlessQuestions wrote: March 27th, 2023, 6:25 pm
The MoTab tour through China is where the secret society brethren got as close to pay for play as I found in that record. Don Staheli, for example, paid in to “host” a prominent Chinese citizen, which just so happened to buy him access to markets, politicians, prophets, and perhaps eventually, a nice cushy red chair. The last piece is difficult to prove, but not hard to imagine after all we’ve learned these last few months. What we do know is they had set up a separate account in the corporation to funnel all that money through… because Beverly told us so.
Is the aforementioned Don Staheli actually Ron?

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madvin wrote: March 28th, 2023, 2:43 pm
endlessQuestions wrote: March 27th, 2023, 6:25 pm
The MoTab tour through China is where the secret society brethren got as close to pay for play as I found in that record. Don Staheli, for example, paid in to “host” a prominent Chinese citizen, which just so happened to buy him access to markets, politicians, prophets, and perhaps eventually, a nice cushy red chair. The last piece is difficult to prove, but not hard to imagine after all we’ve learned these last few months. What we do know is they had set up a separate account in the corporation to funnel all that money through… because Beverly told us so.
Is the aforementioned Don Staheli actually Ron?
I don’t think so. Pretty sure it’s this guy:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_L._Staheli

Probably secret society member (see Page 3):

https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/view ... newspapers

And what the heck was going on at Utah State at this time in history? A Bennion running an investigation that never gets its purpose named? Anybody have any insight?

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endlessQuestions wrote: March 28th, 2023, 2:51 pm
madvin wrote: March 28th, 2023, 2:43 pm
endlessQuestions wrote: March 27th, 2023, 6:25 pm
The MoTab tour through China is where the secret society brethren got as close to pay for play as I found in that record. Don Staheli, for example, paid in to “host” a prominent Chinese citizen, which just so happened to buy him access to markets, politicians, prophets, and perhaps eventually, a nice cushy red chair. The last piece is difficult to prove, but not hard to imagine after all we’ve learned these last few months. What we do know is they had set up a separate account in the corporation to funnel all that money through… because Beverly told us so.
Is the aforementioned Don Staheli actually Ron?
I don’t think so. Pretty sure it’s this guy:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_L._Staheli

Probably secret society member (see Page 3):

https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/view ... newspapers

And what the heck was going on at Utah State at this time in history? A Bennion running an investigation that never gets its purpose named? Anybody have any insight?
Birds of a feather donate together...

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/ ... -security-

LOTS of Sigma Chi in here.

And the Staheli Foundation.

And Donald L. Staheli.

link goes to Hunstman Cancer Institute docs:

https://www.yumpu.com/user/hci.utah.edu

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endlessQuestions wrote: March 28th, 2023, 3:22 pm
endlessQuestions wrote: March 28th, 2023, 2:51 pm
madvin wrote: March 28th, 2023, 2:43 pm

Is the aforementioned Don Staheli actually Ron?
I don’t think so. Pretty sure it’s this guy:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_L._Staheli

Probably secret society member (see Page 3):

https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/view ... newspapers

And what the heck was going on at Utah State at this time in history? A Bennion running an investigation that never gets its purpose named? Anybody have any insight?
Birds of a feather donate together...

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/ ... -security-

LOTS of Sigma Chi in here.

And the Staheli Foundation.

And Donald L. Staheli.

link goes to Hunstman Cancer Institute docs:

https://www.yumpu.com/user/hci.utah.edu
Ah, looks like maybe he was Pi Kappa Alpha, that OTHER really prominent secret society in our Church leadership's history:

https://issuu.com/usudigitalcommons/doc ... 05s07-1952

p 162, if it doesn't take you right there.

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endlessQuestions wrote: March 28th, 2023, 2:51 pm
madvin wrote: March 28th, 2023, 2:43 pm
endlessQuestions wrote: March 27th, 2023, 6:25 pm
The MoTab tour through China is where the secret society brethren got as close to pay for play as I found in that record. Don Staheli, for example, paid in to “host” a prominent Chinese citizen, which just so happened to buy him access to markets, politicians, prophets, and perhaps eventually, a nice cushy red chair. The last piece is difficult to prove, but not hard to imagine after all we’ve learned these last few months. What we do know is they had set up a separate account in the corporation to funnel all that money through… because Beverly told us so.
Is the aforementioned Don Staheli actually Ron?
I don’t think so. Pretty sure it’s this guy:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_L._Staheli

Probably secret society member (see Page 3):

https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/view ... newspapers

And what the heck was going on at Utah State at this time in history? A Bennion running an investigation that never gets its purpose named? Anybody have any insight?
LOL.

I'm sure secret society member Adam "Sigma Chi" Bennion did a bang up job on that investigation at USU, whatever it was regarding.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =361114080

And move over, Romneys! There are 66 entries for "Bennion" in our handy-dandy University of Utah Secret Society Looker Upper! (Remember that doesn't mean 66 individuals, because a person might be named in Skull and Bones and their "home" fraternity one year, and Owl and Key the next year).

I think I counted at least 8 Skull and Bones Bennions. Fantastic.

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Fortuitous Coincidences.

Membership in secret societies here.

Are merely carryovers from previous such memberships.

In the many councils of heaven.

Here mirrors there.

Convenient that.

But prosperity doesn't lie.

Gods of this World.

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endlessQuestions wrote: March 28th, 2023, 3:43 pm
endlessQuestions wrote: March 28th, 2023, 2:51 pm
madvin wrote: March 28th, 2023, 2:43 pm

Is the aforementioned Don Staheli actually Ron?
I don’t think so. Pretty sure it’s this guy:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_L._Staheli

Probably secret society member (see Page 3):

https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/view ... newspapers

And what the heck was going on at Utah State at this time in history? A Bennion running an investigation that never gets its purpose named? Anybody have any insight?
LOL.

I'm sure secret society member Adam "Sigma Chi" Bennion did a bang up job on that investigation at USU, whatever it was regarding.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =361114080

And move over, Romneys! There are 66 entries for "Bennion" in our handy-dandy University of Utah Secret Society Looker Upper! (Remember that doesn't mean 66 individuals, because a person might be named in Skull and Bones and their "home" fraternity one year, and Owl and Key the next year).

I think I counted at least 8 Skull and Bones Bennions. Fantastic.
Says I need access?

Not a normal user of google.docs.

Cause Boomer.

Sir H

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larsenb wrote: March 28th, 2023, 11:23 am Based on an email feed, Joel Skousen has a lot to say about this, and will undoubtedly comment on it in his upcoming WAB. He tags another prominent LDS leader as playing a significant role in this LDS/Chinese 'rapprochement'.
Looking forward to it. Hopefully Paul Jensons show is up and running on Friday and I will catch the brief on Friday also. This is going to be interesting. And only a couple of days before General Conference.

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Eh, just jump over to the avow forum, they are ecstatic how their wonderful "prophet" is building the kingdom of God in China. Nelson this, nelson that, nelson, nelson nelson. I swear it's a scene from the brady bunch. Nelson Nelson Nelson. No mention of the Lord's hand involved, nope nelson nelson nelson. Lol. I had to really fight this urge to not make any comments. 😂😂💩

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HVDC wrote: March 28th, 2023, 4:43 pm
endlessQuestions wrote: March 28th, 2023, 3:43 pm
endlessQuestions wrote: March 28th, 2023, 2:51 pm

I don’t think so. Pretty sure it’s this guy:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_L._Staheli

Probably secret society member (see Page 3):

https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/view ... newspapers

And what the heck was going on at Utah State at this time in history? A Bennion running an investigation that never gets its purpose named? Anybody have any insight?
LOL.

I'm sure secret society member Adam "Sigma Chi" Bennion did a bang up job on that investigation at USU, whatever it was regarding.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =361114080

And move over, Romneys! There are 66 entries for "Bennion" in our handy-dandy University of Utah Secret Society Looker Upper! (Remember that doesn't mean 66 individuals, because a person might be named in Skull and Bones and their "home" fraternity one year, and Owl and Key the next year).

I think I counted at least 8 Skull and Bones Bennions. Fantastic.
Says I need access?

Not a normal user of google.docs.

Cause Boomer.

Sir H
This is my fault. I’ll get access sorted when I get home. Sorry.

EDIT: Access has been granted for anyone with the link. Here's the link again:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... ue&sd=true

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endlessQuestions wrote: March 28th, 2023, 7:32 pm
HVDC wrote: March 28th, 2023, 4:43 pm
endlessQuestions wrote: March 28th, 2023, 3:43 pm

LOL.

I'm sure secret society member Adam "Sigma Chi" Bennion did a bang up job on that investigation at USU, whatever it was regarding.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =361114080

And move over, Romneys! There are 66 entries for "Bennion" in our handy-dandy University of Utah Secret Society Looker Upper! (Remember that doesn't mean 66 individuals, because a person might be named in Skull and Bones and their "home" fraternity one year, and Owl and Key the next year).

I think I counted at least 8 Skull and Bones Bennions. Fantastic.
Says I need access?

Not a normal user of google.docs.

Cause Boomer.

Sir H
This is my fault. I’ll get access sorted when I get home. Sorry.
No reason to be sorry.

Your contribution to this forum.

Has raised the level of discourse.

To a professional level.

My opinion anyway.

This Boomer has learned far more from the younger generations.

Here and elsewhere.

Than I have ever taught them.

Much thanks to all.

Sir H

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dreamtheater76 wrote: March 28th, 2023, 5:38 pm
larsenb wrote: March 28th, 2023, 11:23 am Based on an email feed, Joel Skousen has a lot to say about this, and will undoubtedly comment on it in his upcoming WAB. He tags another prominent LDS leader as playing a significant role in this LDS/Chinese 'rapprochement'.
Looking forward to it. Hopefully Paul Jensons show is up and running on Friday and I will catch the brief on Friday also. This is going to be interesting. And only a couple of days before General Conference.
Actually, I should have realized Joel is not going to comment on Church-related issues in his Brief. However, I don't think he would mind me paraphrasing what he said in an email for which I was on the copy list.

Namely:

He mentioned President Hinckley hosting Chinese leaders several times and praising them on top of it. He also said Hinckley told the GAs a couple of times in the '90s that we would not be involved in a war with Russia or China.

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