Yet Another "as in the days of Noah" thread

[mudflap]

It seems to me that a checklist of sorts could be created that says, "here's all the things they were doing 'in the days of Noah' that we need to look out for in our time". The problem is that the Bible doesn't tell us much beyond "they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, and knew not until the floods came and took them away." We know there was sin, but how entrenched was it? what kinds of things were they doing before the flood that contributed to their destruction? Things that we should look out for today?

One of the things that is missing in the scriptures is any mention of how the trans movement might play into the reason for the destruction in the last days - were there Transgender folks in the days of Noah? I stumbled onto a Hugh Nibley speech in 1975:

https://archive.interpreterfoundation.o ... 5-V1-B.pdf

In it, he discusses various fragments of the Book of Enoch and how they relate to the current ch 6-7 of the Book of Moses (PGP).

A few points:
1. In the days of Noah, according to fragments from the book of Enoch, we find "men dressing as women and women as men" as one of the many "crimes against nature" (discussed later):


2.
For the "crimes against nature": It's not so much that God was punishing them for their disobedience, as it was that God was letting them reap the rewards of their "crimes against nature". Also note that they twisted "solemn covenants" (like "marriage is between a man and a woman") into something else ("not marriage" - but they want to call it the same thing, lol!)


3.
Finally, they thought their technology could save them:


It appears to me, that we are living in the days of Noah. We're only missing "child sacrifice" (but we're pretty close with post birth abortion), and sons and daughters having sex with their fathers and mothers.

Lots of good info in that talk.....

[silverado]

God gave them respite as long as certain righteous men were on earth. Do we have certain righteous men now that are causing God to give us respite?

[BeNotDeceived]

God gave them respite as long as certain righteous men were on earth. Do we have certain righteous men now that are causing God to give us respite?

Michael Sherwin called off an 8.9 magnitude earthquake.

[Sunain]

It appears to me, that we are living in the days of Noah. We're only missing "child sacrifice" (but we're pretty close with post birth abortion), and sons and daughters having sex with their fathers and mothers.

Lots of good info in that talk.....

As prophesied, we're already well passed the days of Noah in all manners of wickedness. There are millions of abortions each year. Corruption is at all levels of government in all the countries of the world. Evil and designing men plot with no care about the welfare of others.

[mudflap]

It appears to me, that we are living in the days of Noah. We're only missing "child sacrifice" (but we're pretty close with post birth abortion), and sons and daughters having sex with their fathers and mothers.

Lots of good info in that talk.....

As prophesied, we're already well passed the days of Noah in all manners of wickedness. There are millions of abortions each year. Corruption is at all levels of government in all the countries of the world. Evil and designing men plot with no care about the welfare of others.

well, at least we pretty much equal to them. the one thing I think is missing is sons and daughters having sex with their mothers and fathers, and adulterating with their neighbors - Sodom and Gomorrah style. Also, there's not a lot of murders of this kind - fathers and mothers killing their own children - it happens in our society from time to time, but I think in Noah's day it was generalized.

The thing I was waiting for - actual child sacrifice to Satan - doesn't appear to be a pre-requisite for destruction - just changing the covenants is enough - and by that, I think they mean redefining the covenants. For example: marriage is now legally defined as between male and female as well as male and male and female and female. They've redefined it. That's a checkbox for destruction. So we're there already.

[mudflap]

this was interesting:
https://www.theosophical.org/publicatio ... se-of-evil

The psychiatrist C.G. Jung refers to wetiko by the name Antimimos, which he describes as "the imitator and evil principle" (Jung, 371). Antimimos refers to a type of deception that could be thought of as countermimicry. This antimimon pneuma—the "counterfeit spirit," as it is called in the Gnostic Apocryphon of John (Robinson, 120), imitates something (in this case, ourselves) but with the intention of making the copy serve a purpose counter to that of the original. Antimimos is a maleficent force which tries to seduce us so as to lead us astray; it effects an inversion of value, transforming truth to falsehood and falsehood to truth, leading us to forgetfulness. When we fall for the ruse of this snake oil salesman of the spirit, we become disoriented, losing our sense of spiritual vocation, our mission in life, even our very selves. Writer and poet Max Pulver has said that "the antimimon pneuma is the origin and cause of all the evils besetting the human soul." The revered Gnostic text Pistis Sophia says that the antimimon pneuma has affixed itself to humanity like an illness (Campbell, 254; cf. Mead, 247ff.).

edit to add: Nibley talks about the antimimon pneuma in the talk (it's only 11 pages, and fairly easy to read), so I had to look it up. fascinating stuff, for sure. Now we KNOW how the transgender movement fits into "the days of Noah".

[blitzinstripes]

For example: marriage is now legally defined as between male and female as well as male and male and female and female. They've redefined it. That's a checkbox for destruction. So we're there already.

And the COJCOLDS SUPPORTED that abomination with the ironically named "Respect For Marriage Act. Imagine if Noah had sanctioned and endorsed the wickedness surrounding him. Only 8 righteous souls remained, but still the Lord's prophet stood and testified against the wickedness.

But today, our current 'prophet' has just rubber stamped his approval. Let THAT sink in.

[Robin Hood]

It seems to me that a checklist of sorts could be created that says, "here's all the things they were doing 'in the days of Noah' that we need to look out for in our time". The problem is that the Bible doesn't tell us much beyond "they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, and knew not until the floods came and took them away." We know there was sin, but how entrenched was it? what kinds of things were they doing before the flood that contributed to their destruction? Things that we should look out for today?

One of the things that is missing in the scriptures is any mention of how the trans movement might play into the reason for the destruction in the last days - were there Transgender folks in the days of Noah? I stumbled onto a Hugh Nibley speech in 1975:

https://archive.interpreterfoundation.o ... 5-V1-B.pdf

In it, he discusses various fragments of the Book of Enoch and how they relate to the current ch 6-7 of the Book of Moses (PGP).

A few points:
1. In the days of Noah, according to fragments from the book of Enoch, we find "men dressing as women and women as men" as one of the many "crimes against nature" (discussed later):


2.
For the "crimes against nature": It's not so much that God was punishing them for their disobedience, as it was that God was letting them reap the rewards of their "crimes against nature". Also note that they twisted "solemn covenants" (like "marriage is between a man and a woman") into something else ("not marriage" - but they want to call it the same thing, lol!)


3.
Finally, they thought their technology could save them:


It appears to me, that we are living in the days of Noah. We're only missing "child sacrifice" (but we're pretty close with post birth abortion), and sons and daughters having sex with their fathers and mothers.

Lots of good info in that talk.....

Fascinating.... thank you.

[blitzinstripes]

We extend a heartfelt thank you and our congratulations to all who played a part in the passage of the amended Respect for Marriage Act. Their efforts to protect religious freedom as Congress sought to codify the Supreme Court’s same-sex marriage decision are both historic and commendable.

The amended Respect for Marriage Act specifically recognizes that “diverse beliefs about the role of gender in marriage are held by reasonable and sincere people based on decent and honorable religious or philosophical premises.”

The one "true and living church" just called gay marriage "decent, reasonable, commendable, and honorable".

This is like if Abraham and Lot had hosted a gay orgy for their Sodomite neighbors and provided the catering.

Heaven help us. Lord, please come quickly!

[abijah]

I've been kinda dumbfounded just exactly how significant the entire Noah/Flood thing is... to so much stuff. From so many different places too. The book of mormon (especially 1 Nephi) is totally interwoven with this noahic tapestry, how God can take Noah/Nephi(+Lehi) to construct a ship + use 'Techne' (Liahona - "exceedingly curious craftsmanship") in order to escape the destruction of a former world to escape to a new world. Or how Lehi just constantly "dwells in a tent" everywhere, all over the place (total callback to the Noah tent narrative where Noah's sons are the main characters involved).

You get this whole narrative where Nephi breaks his bow and then there's this whole drama about where the meat is gonna come from. People know how Noah's Flood culminates in this 'rainbow covenant', but the actual "bow" there is a literal that you kill people with. When the rain comes and we see that deadly`recurve of light the idea is that God hasn't picked His bow back up, to go to war with mankind. So when Nephi *breaks his bow*, and then gets the continued technological know-how from God to slay beasts (nephilim/nimrod rabbithole i don't have time for) whose flesh automatically becomes *sweet* (total Genesis 9 referencing all over the place).

This spirit bleeds into our time in sooo many different ways. There are noahic spirits that are very concerned about your diet, especially when it comes to the appropriateness of meat-eating. Veganism and PETA etc are examples of crazed noahic spirits who have managed to secure institutional power in our current world and paradigm.

Noah's Flood is about *hybridity*. The erosion and breaking-down of barriers between distinct categories in order to make them not distinct (pure/meaning-based) anymore. This is why we see a deluge of various barrier-eroding degeneracies like furries (admixture of species), bestiality (similar thing on a different scale), cuckoldry (admixture of lineage), incest (admixture of familial 'nakedness'), etc etc etc. It's why every other commercial has a black person and a white person in every commercial or why women (hybridity incarnate) always rule over the men in media or why immigrants are so much more prized over countrymen in western propaganda.

I could go on and on and on about Noah's Flood and the broad implications for our day, and how it relates to the evil people who renew themselves drinking the blood of infants thinking that Noah's rainbow will save them, as if Noah's tent-wine is some kind of excuse (there's reasons why the rainbow has been hijacked specifically as a symbol of mockery of the divine -- what could God be embarrassed about? ).

We should all become more familiar with Genesis and 1 Enoch imo.

[abijah]

Fyi the "eating, drinking + marriage" has certain (false) sacramental connotations. Ones that get developed later in the scriptures, notably the Golden Calf debacle and then the 'daughters of moab' incident at Baal-peor.

It's about idolatry, cannibalism and pedophilia. The rulers and politicians of our time worship noahic rephaim spirits. They engage in these sacraments to get power. This is nephilim theology and there's a reason why Jesus describes His sacrament in John 6 as being the diametric opposite of the cannibal nephilim. The sexual and dietary perversions of the watchers and the nephilim are mixed-up versions of some deeper things prying eyes weren't meant to see then.

[kirtland r.m.]

Elder Bruce R. McConkie wrote that “from Adam to Noah, like rolling crashes of thunder, each louder than the one before, evil and carnality and wickedness increased until ‘every man was lifted up in the imagination of the thoughts of his heart, being only evil continually’ [Moses 8:22]”https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... 8?lang=eng

An important Book of Mormon scripture.

When inhabitants of earth are fully ripe in iniquity, they shall perish, 2 Ne. 28:16.

[harakim]

It seems to me that a checklist of sorts could be created that says, "here's all the things they were doing 'in the days of Noah' that we need to look out for in our time". The problem is that the Bible doesn't tell us much beyond "they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, and knew not until the floods came and took them away." We know there was sin, but how entrenched was it? what kinds of things were they doing before the flood that contributed to their destruction? Things that we should look out for today?

One of the things that is missing in the scriptures is any mention of how the trans movement might play into the reason for the destruction in the last days - were there Transgender folks in the days of Noah? I stumbled onto a Hugh Nibley speech in 1975:

https://archive.interpreterfoundation.o ... 5-V1-B.pdf

In it, he discusses various fragments of the Book of Enoch and how they relate to the current ch 6-7 of the Book of Moses (PGP).

A few points:
1. In the days of Noah, according to fragments from the book of Enoch, we find "men dressing as women and women as men" as one of the many "crimes against nature" (discussed later):


2.
For the "crimes against nature": It's not so much that God was punishing them for their disobedience, as it was that God was letting them reap the rewards of their "crimes against nature". Also note that they twisted "solemn covenants" (like "marriage is between a man and a woman") into something else ("not marriage" - but they want to call it the same thing, lol!)


3.
Finally, they thought their technology could save them:


It appears to me, that we are living in the days of Noah. We're only missing "child sacrifice" (but we're pretty close with post birth abortion), and sons and daughters having sex with their fathers and mothers.

Lots of good info in that talk.....

This is super interesting, but like it says: they fought nature so it fought them back. Every time I go to work, I see everyone fighting nature. A hundred years ago, we used to have like 75% of people working in agriculture. Now we have 1%. Why do we still have a 40+ hour work week with a marginal increase in quality of life. It's so inefficient and it's making everyone unhappy and dumb. This society will destroy itself. It's not a judgment, it's the natural consequence.

How soon? I think it will start with a human on human conflict that these incompetent nature-fighting people think they can control or back out of. What they don't realize is how fragile this economy is. I have been privileged to see large swaths of the country and economy and it will not handle an attack by a foreign power. The military will be just fine, but the economy will not be. Based on the incompetence I have seen, I'm not sure those foreign powers who would destroy this economy could control the outcome in their own countries.

I don't like to out what I do or who I am, but I have had a recent experience that makes me think things could be close. A few suspicious characters recently traveled to Europe unexpectedly. One of them came back and I have it on very good authority that they are making lots of hard-to-make and super destructive "mistakes" at their job. This person has had some ties to unsavory international characters as well. So that's just like one piece of the puzzle but I don't know why they would be so blatant if they needed more time.

[Niemand]

the one thing I think is missing is sons and daughters having sex with their mothers and fathers, and adulterating with their neighbors - Sodom and Gomorrah style.

I'm afraid to say we're not missing it. Incest porn is a thing unfortunately, and if people sleep around then a lot of people won't know who their fathers or children are, and this will happen too. So called blended families encourage it too.

A girl I know told me the other day she was looking out of her window and a man and his niece were at it with each other in the garden next door! She claims her area is a dumping ground for problem families but still...