Why are there so many who claim to be the Davidic Servant?

[Being There]

The Lord HAS been preparing him, but has not revealed him;
but he may not even know who he is yet until the Lord empowers him;
and "when my God became my strength— " Isaiah 49:5
after the "trials he endures have served their purpose to purify, perfect, and sanctify him to a higher spiritual level,
thereby qualifying him for a new commission.
Jacob/Israel’s restoration, to which task he was foreordained (v 1), Jehovah augments with a mission
to serve as a light to the “nations” or “Gentiles”

you may want to take a look at this translation
https://www.isaiahexplained.com/commentary/49


Isaiah 49
Jehovah empowers his servant after he is rejected to restore his people and to implement their new exodus.

1 Hear me, O isles; listen, you distant peoples:Jehovah called me before I was in the belly;before I was in my mother’s womb,he mentioned me by name.

Jehovah having spoken of his servant (cf. Isaiah 41:1-3, 25-27; 42:1-7; 44:26-28; 45:1-6, 13; 46:11-13; 48:14-15), the servant speaks of himself, asserting Jehovah foreordained him before his mother conceived him. Jehovah’s “naming” him and “calling” him to an international mission—to “the isles” and “distant people”—signify ascent to the seraph category. Jehovah had likewise called Jeremiah to an international mission before his birth: “Before I formed you in the belly, I knew you. Before you came out of the womb, I sanctified you. I ordained you a prophet to the nations” (Jeremiah 1:5, 10).

2 He has made my mouth like a sharp sword—in the shadow of his hand he hid me. He has made me into a polished arrow—in his quiver he kept me secret.

Jehovah’s “hiding” and “secreting” his servant suggests that the world knows nothing of his calling until the time Jehovah empowers him.
Even Jehovah’s people don’t know him or are ignorant of him until he fulfills his mission:
“You will summon a nation that you did not know; a nation that did not know you will hasten to you” (Isaiah 55:5).
He himself, therefore, is one of the “new things” Jehovah does suddenly that test the loyalty of his people (Isaiah 42:9; 48:6-8; 51:4-11).
The terms mouth, sword, hand, and arrow designate Jehovah’s servant metaphorically (Isaiah 31:8; 51:16; 62:2-3).

3 He said to me, You are my servant,Israel, in whom I will be glorified.
4 I had thought, I have labored in vain,I have spent my strength for nothing and to no purpose!
Yet my cause rested with Jehovah,my recompense with my God.

Jehovah’s calling his servant “Israel” parallels Jehovah’s calling his people’s ancestor Jacob by his new name Israel after Jacob had proven loyal to him (Genesis 32:28). The servant’s receiving a new name, in other words—which the name Israel here symbolizes—attests to his ascent to a higher spiritual level after he has proven loyal to Jehovah. It also implies that he—Jehovah’s individual servant—serves as a surrogate of and as an exemplar to Jehovah’s collective servant; that is, to Jehovah’s people in the Jacob/Israel category to whom Jehovah sends him (vv 5-9; Isaiah 41:27; 42:6-7; 48:16).

One way the servant proves loyal is to continue laboring in Jehovah’s cause even in the face of few positive results. By all appearances, he at first spends a great deal of energy “in vain” and “for nothing and to no purpose.” And yet, desiring to serve Jehovah even under the most adversarial conditions (v 7; Isaiah 50:6-9; 52:13-14), he submits to Jehovah’s will:

“My Lord Jehovah has endowed me with a learned tongue, that I may know how to preach to those grown weary a word to wake them up” (Isaiah 50:4).
Before ascending to Isaiah’s seraph level, he descends through trials that consume him.

5 For now Jehovah has said—he who formed me from the womb to be his servant, to restore Jacob to him,Israel having been gathered to him; for I won honor in the eyes of Jehovah when my God became my strength—

6 he said: It is too small thing for you to be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob and to restore those preserved of Israel.
I will also appoint you to be a light to the nations, that my salvation may be to the end of the earth.

A reversal of circumstances takes place for Jehovah’s servant when the trials he endures have served their purpose to purify, perfect, and sanctify him to a higher spiritual level, thereby qualifying him for a new commission.
Jacob/Israel’s restoration, to which task he was foreordained (v 1), Jehovah augments with a mission to serve as a light to the “nations” or “Gentiles” (goyim) “to the end of the earth.” From there, Jehovah’s people are to return (Isaiah 41:8-9; 43:5-6), so that all who desire it might participate in Jehovah’s salvation and prepare for Jehovah’s coming as salvation (Isaiah 52:7; 62:11).

Jehovah “appoints” his servant when he “wins honor” in Jehovah’s eyes by proving faithful through trials (v 4), at which time his God becomes his “strength.”
The servant’s physical exploits that follow—subduing nations, releasing captives, leading the new exodus, and rebuilding ruins (Isaiah 9:2-5; 11:10-16; 41:2-3, 25; 45:1-3, 13; 48:14; 61:1-4)—should thus be seen in the context of an ascent phase of divine empowerment that follows his descent phase through afflictions as he fulfills his role of proxy savior to the Jacob/Israel category of Jehovah’s people under the terms of the Davidic Covenant.

7 Thus says Jehovah,the Redeemer and Holy One of Israel,to him who is despised as a person,who is abhorred by his nation,a servant to those in authority:Kings shall rise up when they see you, princes shall prostrate themselves,because Jehovah keeps faith with you,because the Holy One of Israel has chosen you.

Although Jehovah’s servant is at first “despised as a person” and “abhorred by his nation” as his own reject him,
Jehovah exalts him in the eyes of those who see him as a threat to their authority.
Jehovah rewards his servant’s faithfulness toward him in the face of opposition with his own acts of faithfulness toward his servant.
Henceforth, as the servant begins the temporal phase of Jacob/Israel’s restoration, he becomes prominent worldwide (Isaiah 11:10-12; 52:15; 55:5). Kings and princes now honor him who was dishonored and assist in the restoration of Jehovah’s people (vv 22-23; Isaiah 60:3-11).

Gileadi is a starting point. No use camping out there.

actually, it's the only place to camp out - which is the best thing to do;

there's lots of truth out there for those who can discern. TBMs are trapped in the mind prison that the only legitimate truth that can be relied upon is from one solitary source (the Church leadership - as opposed to the Spirit), and that nowhere else can one learn or gain anything.

You are in the same mind prison, except you've switched the Brethren for Gileadi.

It's TBM conditioning to make people think there's only ever one Source™ for actual Truth®

Well, I understand you completely, and agree with what you are saying -
as to not relying on someone else, but being led to truth, by the spirit - the testifier of truth.
But sorry, because I'm really not how you think I am;
just because I believe Gileadi is the most correct translation and interpretation and try to learn from him.


I mean come on, here we have Isaiah, who the Lord said his words were great,
and gave a commandment to search his words diligently, and what -
1 percent or something even care about that enough to try to study Isaiah,
much less that can in some way understand it; without any help from others.

So ya, like I said, Gileadi is the only place to camp out - which is the best thing to do;
until you think you know more than he does.
Gileadi's books and website https://www.isaiahexplained.com/commentary/1
are of great help to the small number of people
that even care about searching Isaiah trying to understand it.
Because before Gileadi, just about no one knew or had any idea that
1. Isaiah’s Prophecy Relates to Two Time Frames Simultaneously
https://www.isaiahexplained.com/resourc ... of-isaiah/

I understand what you are saying,
but I really don't want to waste my time debating this.
I think people need someone like Gileadi - that has spent and dedicated his whole life
to the study of the book of Isaiah.
If you think you have a better translation or interpretation,
I certainly haven't seen it.

[simpleton]

Gileadi is a starting point. No use camping out there.

actually, it's the only place to camp out - which is the best thing to do;

there's lots of truth out there for those who can discern. TBMs are trapped in the mind prison that the only legitimate truth that can be relied upon is from one solitary source (the Church leadership - as opposed to the Spirit), and that nowhere else can one learn or gain anything.

You are in the same mind prison, except you've switched the Brethren for Gileadi.

It's TBM conditioning to make people think there's only ever one Source™ for actual Truth®

Well, I understand you completely, and agree with what you are saying -
as to not relying on someone else, but being led to truth, by the spirit - the testifier of truth.
But sorry, because I'm really not how you think I am;
just because I believe Gileadi is the most correct translation and interpretation and try to learn from him.


I mean come on, here we have Isaiah, who the Lord said his words were great,
and gave a commandment to search his words diligently, and what -
1 percent or something even care about that enough to try to study Isaiah,
much less that can in some way understand it; without any help from others.

So ya, like I said, Gileadi is the only place to camp out - which is the best thing to do;
until you think you know more than he does.
Gileadi's books and website https://www.isaiahexplained.com/commentary/1
are of great help to the small number of people
that even care about searching Isaiah trying to understand it.
Because before Gileadi, just about no one knew or had any idea that
1. Isaiah’s Prophecy Relates to Two Time Frames Simultaneously
https://www.isaiahexplained.com/resourc ... of-isaiah/

I understand what you are saying,
but I really don't want to waste my time debating this.
I think people need someone like Gileadi - that has spent and dedicated his whole life
to the study of the book of Isaiah.
If you think you have a better translation or interpretation,
I certainly haven't seen it.

Some people are quite proud...

[Valo]

actually, it's the only place to camp out - which is the best thing to do;

there's lots of truth out there for those who can discern. TBMs are trapped in the mind prison that the only legitimate truth that can be relied upon is from one solitary source (the Church leadership - as opposed to the Spirit), and that nowhere else can one learn or gain anything.

You are in the same mind prison, except you've switched the Brethren for Gileadi.

It's TBM conditioning to make people think there's only ever one Source™ for actual Truth®

Well, I understand you completely, and agree with what you are saying -
as to not relying on someone else, but being led to truth, by the spirit - the testifier of truth.
But sorry, because I'm really not how you think I am;
just because I believe Gileadi is the most correct translation and interpretation and try to learn from him.


I mean come on, here we have Isaiah, who the Lord said his words were great,
and gave a commandment to search his words diligently, and what -
1 percent or something even care about that enough to try to study Isaiah,
much less that can in some way understand it; without any help from others.

So ya, like I said, Gileadi is the only place to camp out - which is the best thing to do;
until you think you know more than he does.
Gileadi's books and website https://www.isaiahexplained.com/commentary/1
are of great help to the small number of people
that even care about searching Isaiah trying to understand it.
Because before Gileadi, just about no one knew or had any idea that
1. Isaiah’s Prophecy Relates to Two Time Frames Simultaneously
https://www.isaiahexplained.com/resourc ... of-isaiah/

I understand what you are saying,
but I really don't want to waste my time debating this.
I think people need someone like Gileadi - that has spent and dedicated his whole life
to the study of the book of Isaiah.
If you think you have a better translation or interpretation,
I certainly haven't seen it.

Some people are quite proud...

You thinking of anyone in particular or just a random observation because you felt like sharing?

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[Alaris]

"Why are there so many who claim to be the Davidic Servant" and not claim to be Jesus Christ.

Isn't it so perfect! On one hand they "Second Coming" of Jesus. On the other they claim us to be the Davidic Servant (I hope King Messiah.)

It's been a long time to tracking the Davidic Kingdom .. From Father to Son. From Servant to Son.

1 Chronicles 17:11 ¶ And it shall come to pass, when thy [King David] days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his [Davidic Servant] kingdom.

12 He [Davidic Servant] shall build me an house, and I [Jehovah] will stablish his [Davidic Servant] throne for ever.

13 I [Jehovah] will be his father, and he [Davidic Servant] shall be my son: and I will not take my mercy away from him [Davidic Servant], as I took it from him that was before thee [Saul]:

14 But I will settle him in mine house and in my kingdom for ever: and his [Davidic Servant] throne shall be established for evermore.

[BeNotDeceived]

Some people are quite proud...

You thinking of anyone in particular or just a random observation because you felt like sharing?

...

The following bears repeating.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=45255&p=777947&hilit=Splode#p777947

There’s a link with Seek to be worthy of praise text where OSC says Splode but not wanker.

God using an earthquake to land Moroni’s Instrument tells so much to those that listen.

Blue Whale, but not Black Bear.

[CMajor]

1 Chron. 17:11-14 Reading it makes appear to me that through the bloodline of David will come this servant. Christ was of the bloodline of David.

I bought an expensive but well researched book (27 years of research) that talked and proved that the last days servants would come through the sacred bloodline. The bloodline of David and Christ. The book title is "Dynasty of the Holy Grail:mormonism's sacred bloodline." 2013 edition by Dr. Vern Swanson.
Dr. Swanson established some new discoveries I'd never heard of before. (I lead a sheltered life..lol) One was about Joseph of Arimathea owning Tin mines in Cornwall and Sommerset. He was a rich Pharisee, but loyal follower of Christ. Dr. Swanson had proof that he brought the two Mary's and families to Scotland/England to hide them from the Romans. There was evidence that the Apostles removed as much evidence as possible from their writings to hide the fact that Jesus was married and had offspring. They were regarded as the grail. From the children came the Royal bloodlines. Royal bloodlines from Jesus Christ. They kept genealogies like the Jews did, perhaps more detailed.

Brigham Young once commented, "we took the best blood of England" talking of converts.

A large part of the book, 2/3 concentrated on showing that Joseph Smith was a descendant of this Royal bloodline, a last days servant. And attempted to prove that Joseph would come back as the main Davidic servant again, though I have a hard time believing that. Why would the Lord use the head of the sixth dispensation, again in the seventh? There plenty of other people prepared from before the foundation of this world.

[CMajor]

The many times I read D&C 113:8-10, especially 10..."We are to understand that the scattered remnants are exhorted to return to the Lord from whence they have fallen; which if they do, the promise of the Lord is that he will speak to them, or give them revelation. See the 6th, 7th, and the 8th verses. The bands of her neck are the curses of God upon her, or the remnants of Israel in their scattered condition among the Gentiles.

Are these remnants the descendants of Christ, and don't know who they are? Because it goes on to say if they return to the Lord, he will speak to them, or give them revelation.

Could this pertain to the Davidic bloodline servant?

He is not a professional paid Apostle whose corporation has had the fullness of the gospel taken from them for apostasy. IMO

[simpleton]

He is not a professional paid Apostle whose corporation has had the fullness of the gospel taken from them for apostasy. IMO

Most definitely not.
Hidden yet.

I think He is of a couple of the Tribes. Of Judah, Levi and Joseph. Because of a few statements/predictions. Unless they are of multiple persons.

Testament of Levi:


12 And after their punishment shall have come from the Lord, the priesthood shall fail.

13 Then shall the Lord raise up a new priest.

14 And to him all the words of the Lord shall be revealed; and he shall execute a righteous judgement upon the earth for a multitude of days.

15 And his star shall arise in heaven as of a king.

16 Lighting up the light of knowledge as the sun the day, and he shall be magnified in the world.

17 He shall shine forth as the sun on the earth, and shall remove all darkness from under heaven, and there shall be peace in all the earth.

18 The heavens shall exult in his days, and the earth shall be glad, and the clouds shall rejoice;

19 And the knowledge of the Lord shall be poured forth upon the earth, as the water of the seas;

20 And the angels of the glory of the presence of the Lord shall be glad in him.

21 The heavens shall be opened, and from the temple of glory shall come upon him sanctification, with the Father's voice as from Abraham to Isaac.

22 And the glory of the Most High shall be uttered over him, and the spirit of understanding and sanctification shall rest upon him in the water.

23 For he shall give the majesty of the Lord to His sons in truth for evermore;

24 And there shall none succeed him for all generations for ever.

25 And in his priesthood the Gentiles shall be multiplied in knowledge upon the earth, and enlightened through the grace of the Lord. In his priesthood shall sin come to an end, and the lawless shall cease to do evil.

26 And he shall open the gates of paradise, and shall remove the threatening sword against Adam, and he shall give to the saints to eat from the tree of life, and the spirit of holiness shall be on them.

27 And Beliar shall be bound by him, and he shall give power to His children to tread upon the evil spirits.

28 And the Lord shall rejoice in His children, and be well pleased in His beloved ones for ever.

29 Then shall Abraham and Isaac and Jacob exult, and I will be glad, and all the saints shall clothe themselves with joy.....

Genesis 49:
10The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Genesis 49:

22Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:

23The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:

24But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:)

25Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:

26The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.
(Ephraim and Manasseh).

[Alaris]

Most definitely not.
Hidden yet.

I think He is of a couple of the Tribes. Of Judah, Levi and Joseph. Because of a few statements/predictions. Unless they are of multiple persons.

One person. The Father is Ephraim. The Mother is mostly Judah and some Levi.

Testament of Levi:


12 And after their punishment shall have come from the Lord, the priesthood shall fail.

13 Then shall the Lord raise up a new priest.

14 And to him all the words of the Lord shall be revealed; and he shall execute a righteous judgement upon the earth for a multitude of days.

15 And his star shall arise in heaven as of a king.

16 Lighting up the light of knowledge as the sun the day, and he shall be magnified in the world.

17 He shall shine forth as the sun on the earth, and shall remove all darkness from under heaven, and there shall be peace in all the earth.

18 The heavens shall exult in his days, and the earth shall be glad, and the clouds shall rejoice;

19 And the knowledge of the Lord shall be poured forth upon the earth, as the water of the seas;

20 And the angels of the glory of the presence of the Lord shall be glad in him.

21 The heavens shall be opened, and from the temple of glory shall come upon him sanctification, with the Father's voice as from Abraham to Isaac.

22 And the glory of the Most High shall be uttered over him, and the spirit of understanding and sanctification shall rest upon him in the water.

23 For he shall give the majesty of the Lord to His sons in truth for evermore;

24 And there shall none succeed him for all generations for ever.

25 And in his priesthood the Gentiles shall be multiplied in knowledge upon the earth, and enlightened through the grace of the Lord. In his priesthood shall sin come to an end, and the lawless shall cease to do evil.

26 And he shall open the gates of paradise, and shall remove the threatening sword against Adam, and he shall give to the saints to eat from the tree of life, and the spirit of holiness shall be on them.

27 And Beliar shall be bound by him, and he shall give power to His children to tread upon the evil spirits.

28 And the Lord shall rejoice in His children, and be well pleased in His beloved ones for ever.

29 Then shall Abraham and Isaac and Jacob exult, and I will be glad, and all the saints shall clothe themselves with joy.....

Genesis 49:
10The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Genesis 49:

22Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:

23The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:

24But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:)

25Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:

26The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.
(Ephraim and Manasseh).

The LORD God

YWHW

Behold a Nail
Behold a Hand

[logonbump]

To answer the question, I think if there is such a role, that of a forerunner or preparator, then it is highly likely that many are called but few are chosen .
As why these types tend to congregate here with all the divergent types and deskbound introverts, Satan would likely appeal to the ego and intellect of those who are aware of the role and deceive a few as well.

Ask me how I know.

[Original_Intent]

To answer the question, I think if there is such a role, that of a forerunner or preparator, then it is highly likely that many are called but few are chosen .
As why these types tend to congregate here with all the divergent types and deskbound introverts, Satan would likely appeal to the ego and intellect of those who are aware of the role and deceive a few as well.

Ask me how I know.

How do you know?

[Shawn Henry]

if there is such a role

There is no "if", there is definitely such a role.

[Shawn Henry]

I think He is of a couple of the Tribes. Of Judah, Levi and Joseph. Because of a few statements/predictions. Unless they are of multiple persons.

So, I get the whole split lineage idea, but I do question its origin. The scriptures speak of two end-time servants, why not assume one is of Judah and the other of Ephraim? Ezekiel 37 indicates one scepter/staff/stick will be for Judah and one for Joseph in the hand of Ephraim, which perfectly matches the two leaders of the northern and southern kingdoms and, what do you know, that is what the whole chapter is about, the reunification of the kingdoms. These two scepters are then joined into one, meaning the Davidic Servant becomes the Davidic Prince over all of Israel.

But doesn't the split lineage idea start outside of scripture? I don't know, but I think the saints started to believe this simply to elevate Joseph beyond what he was. This is necessary to pin Joseph as the choice seer of 2 Ne 3, despite Joseph being a gentile and not meeting the criteria to be this choice seer. The choice seer is a future event.

So, basically, I'm just interested in vetting this whole split lineage concept.

[BeNotDeceived]

Extraordinary experiences lead to extraordinary explanations.

[logonbump]

1 Chron. 17:11-14 Reading it makes appear to me that through the bloodline of David will come this servant. Christ was of the bloodline of David.

I bought an expensive but well researched book (27 years of research) that talked and proved that the last days servants would come through the sacred bloodline. The bloodline of David and Christ. The book title is "Dynasty of the Holy Grail:mormonism's sacred bloodline." 2013 edition by Dr. Vern Swanson.
Dr. Swanson established some new discoveries I'd never heard of before. (I lead a sheltered life..lol) One was about Joseph of Arimathea owning Tin mines in Cornwall and Sommerset. He was a rich Pharisee, but loyal follower of Christ. Dr. Swanson had proof that he brought the two Mary's and families to Scotland/England to hide them from the Romans. There was evidence that the Apostles removed as much evidence as possible from their writings to hide the fact that Jesus was married and had offspring. They were regarded as the grail. From the children came the Royal bloodlines. Royal bloodlines from Jesus Christ. They kept genealogies like the Jews did, perhaps more detailed.

Brigham Young once commented, "we took the best blood of England" talking of converts.

A large part of the book, 2/3 concentrated on showing that Joseph Smith was a descendant of this Royal bloodline, a last days servant. And attempted to prove that Joseph would come back as the main Davidic servant again, though I have a hard time believing that. Why would the Lord use the head of the sixth dispensation, again in the seventh? There plenty of other people prepared from before the foundation of this world.

US $188 on Amazon
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[abijah]

Ether 6
10 And thus they were driven forth; and no monster of the sea could break them, neither whale that could mar them; and they did have light continually, whether it was above the water or under the water.

[BeNotDeceived]

Ether 6
10 And thus they were driven forth; and no monster of the sea could break them, neither whale that could mar them; and they did have light continually, whether it was above the water or under the water.

(Marred whale, but not a flying color or gargoyl amongst them)

[Rumpelstiltskin]

So, back to my original question, why do so many believe and even claim to be the Davidic Servant? I’m interested in what you think... .

This is easy to answer. Satan needs to produce as many counterfeits as he can so that those who are looking for the appearance of the Servant will have many to sift through. Only the pure in heart will see through the deception by knowing exactly what to look for in the servant. Everyone else will be deceived.

[3Nephi18:25]

Over the course of the past few years, I have seen half a dozen or more claim to be the Davidic Servant. If you look up the “one mighty and strong” online, you’ll see dozens who have each made similar claims.

They can’t all be right and, likely, none are right. If you read the book of Isaiah, coupled with commentary from Gileadi and Alaris, the magnitude of this Davidic Servant is just beyond anything imaginable. To make a claim, or even throw the idea out there, disqualifies that person. Please remember that the Lord has been preparing this man for eons upon eons for this mission. I don’t believe that there’s a plan B backup or understudy if the original man failed.

It is my belief, based on 1 Nephi 20:15 (“15 Also, saith the Lord; I the Lord, yea, I have spoken; yea, I have called him to declare, I have brought him, and he shall make his way prosperous.”) and other such scriptures, that it will be the Lord Himself who will identify the Davidic Servant, not the Davidic Servant himself).

For any who have felt like you are the Davidic Servant for a host of varying reasons, my heart goes out to you. There have been a few times in which I felt like this or that calling in my local ward was coming my way. I was wrong! But, I learned more from those experiences than if I had been correct.

So, back to my original question, why do so many believe and even claim to be the Davidic Servant? I’m interested in what you think... .

False spirits and a lack of understanding how to discern them.

[abijah]

Ether 6
10 And thus they were driven forth; and no monster of the sea could break them, neither whale that could mar them; and they did have light continually, whether it was above the water or under the water.

(Marred whale, but not a flying color or gargoyl amongst them)

Kinda spooky... I was reading thru the other DS thread, then left and started scrolling thru twitter and immediately came across this post with the bell curve meme, pretty sure it's a sign (not something I say often)

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Edit: Never heard of this guy, not sure how he ended up on my feed. I just looked up the song, not totally my style, but the lyrics are pretty fascinating.

Edit edit: I just realized it's one of the Haunted Cosmos guys, makes sense why the lyrics and meme game are so based.

The mountains are magnets and you are the steel
The dangerous peaks and the heady, thin air
Beckoning, calling, and waving their hands
Saying come on, boys, come further up, further in.

Ole Neptune is roaring and shaking his fists
Swallowing islands and timbered ships
But look to the glory, it's there to be had
And take to the oars or you'll wish that you did

Come on, boys, don't you know?
There're dragons out there, dragons out there
Come on, boys, don't be slow
Cut down Leviathan, go get the girl
Come on, boys, don't you know?
There're dragons out there, dragons out there
Come on, boys, don't be slow
Cut down Leviathan, go get the girl

She's prettier than any sunset or sky
Bright as a flower, all slender and wild
You swear that you've never seen anything more
Lovely as this river daughter before
She's a glorious thing; she's the glory of man
A bone out of Adam, a garden again
So son take your strength and your courage in hand,
And see if she won't be a crown on your head

Come on, boys, don't you know?
There're dragons out there, dragons out there
Come on, boys, don't be slow
Cut down Leviathan, go get the girl
Come on, boys, don't you know?
There're dragons out there, dragons out there
Come on, boys, don't be slow
Cut down Leviathan, go get the girl.

Don't give any heed to cowardly tongues
There's glory out there, out there to be won
Look to the King; He's thrown down Goliath
And cut off his head; take courage, now son
Don't give any heed to cowardly tongues
There's glory out there, out there to be won
Look to the King; He's thrown down Goliath
And cut off his head; take courage, now son

Come on, boys, don't you know?
There're dragons out there, dragons out there

[Original_Intent]

So, back to my original question, why do so many believe and even claim to be the Davidic Servant? I’m interested in what you think... .

This is easy to answer. Satan needs to produce as many counterfeits as he can so that those who are looking for the appearance of the Servant will have many to sift through. Only the pure in heart will see through the deception by knowing exactly what to look for in the servant. Everyone else will be deceived.

It's easy to answer, more difficult to answer correctly.

[FrankOne]

Maybe the Davidic servant was one of those Alma the Younger types. Just really lost not just on Earth but seriously lost in the universe. When God created a plan to help the lost people maybe Jesus touched his heart. Maybe if he knew who he was he wouldn't tell people because while it means he is a great soul, it also means he was not so great a soul but became great because of Jesus' redeeming him. Maybe he was the universe underdog and people generally didn't like him. Maybe he was given great opportunity to serve Jesus to pay off his great debts. And maybe he is a spiritual trillionare but was also owing just about everybody spiritual money before Jesus came and made him rich.

No one is all hero except Jesus and I imagine in everyone's story there is some irony.

Juliet, I can read you all day! Who are you that you have such power of logic?

Thank you. You have to go backwards in order to go forwards!

ready player one

[BeNotDeceived]

Ether 6
10 And thus they were driven forth; and no monster of the sea could break them, neither whale that could mar them; and they did have light continually, whether it was above the water or under the water.

(Marred whale, but not a flying color or gargoyl amongst them)

Kinda spooky... I was reading thru the other DS thread, then left and started scrolling thru twitter and immediately came across this post with the bell curve meme, pretty sure it's a sign (not something I say often)

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0.000002% is 1 chance in 57 million rounded to 1 significant digit stated as a percentage.

That is the approximate probability of a minute in the last 100 years forming the Crist timing pattern.

The upcoming CRYst opportunity is of the same order of magnitude.

B00000ND is BND minus the zeros, and begins with B00.

384 mostly represents tribute in the name of Christ, but 84 doth represent a warning.

Makerbee posts turned out to be prophetic bringing new understanding to the purpose of gargoyles.

[BeNotDeceived]

I am surely not the Davidic Servant, just the Prophet of Doom and Minster of Truth. If you're going to have a title, why not be original and make up your own, that's what I did...

Seven minutes and eleven second anomaly.

Timekeeper at your service.

Whodathunk it would extend beyond the days of Domino’s guaranteed delivery.

[abijah]

Kinda spooky... I was reading thru the other DS thread, then left and started scrolling thru twitter and immediately came across this post with the bell curve meme, pretty sure it's a sign (not something I say often)

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Tweet loading ...

0.000002% is 1 chance in 57 million rounded to 1 significant digit stated as a percentage.

That is the approximate probability of a minute in the last 100 years forming the Crist timing pattern.

The upcoming CRYst opportunity is of the same order of magnitude.

B00000ND is BND minus the zeros, and begins with B00.

384 mostly represents tribute in the name of Christ, but 84 doth represent a warning.

Makerbee posts turned out to be prophetic bringing new understanding to the purpose of gargoyles.

maybe it's the time of day, but this post is more indecipherable to me than usual for some reason.

You've been talking about gargoyles a lot though, and I think it has a strong relevance to the weird synchronicities I've been getting the last few days in my scripture/gospel studies. Gargoyle symbolism is really fascinating. Imagine if LDS chapels started adding gargoyles would go so hard