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Shawn Henry wrote: January 30th, 2023, 12:50 pm
SJR3t2 wrote: January 26th, 2023, 9:17 pm
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SJR3t2 wrote: January 25th, 2023, 2:37 pm I see only two, and the one that went into the wilderness was for an atonement.
9 And Aaron shall bring the goat (the first goat) upon which the Lord’s lot fell, and offer him for a sin offering.

10 But the goat (the second goat), on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the Lord, to make an atonement with him (with the first goat), and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness. (it's a joint atonement, one has to be sacrificed and one has to be driven out)

11 And Aaron shall bring the bullock (this is the third person, a bullock killed with the goat) of the sin offering, which is for himself, and shall make an atonement for himself, and for his house, and shall kill the bullock of the sin offering which is for himself

The blood of the bullock and the first goat have their blood placed upon the mercy seat and then this is what is said of the scapegoat:

21 And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:

22 And the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited: and he shall let go the goat in the wilderness.
Yeshua is the fatted cow. I personally see no problem with this or contradiction that it is pointing to Yeshua.
So, bascially you're saying that you have no idea how this is a prophecy of 3 people or what the two goats represents or when the fulfillment was of one of the goats having the sins of Israel placed upon it and driven into the wilderness or why the blood of the bullock had it's blood mixed with the other goat. You have no interpretation at all?
wow mocking, I gave you some before and with that response I'm not giving you more.

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SJR3t2 wrote: January 31st, 2023, 9:00 am
Shawn Henry wrote: January 30th, 2023, 12:50 pm
SJR3t2 wrote: January 26th, 2023, 9:17 pm
Shawn Henry wrote: January 25th, 2023, 7:33 pm
9 And Aaron shall bring the goat (the first goat) upon which the Lord’s lot fell, and offer him for a sin offering.

10 But the goat (the second goat), on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the Lord, to make an atonement with him (with the first goat), and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness. (it's a joint atonement, one has to be sacrificed and one has to be driven out)

11 And Aaron shall bring the bullock (this is the third person, a bullock killed with the goat) of the sin offering, which is for himself, and shall make an atonement for himself, and for his house, and shall kill the bullock of the sin offering which is for himself

The blood of the bullock and the first goat have their blood placed upon the mercy seat and then this is what is said of the scapegoat:

21 And Aaron shall lay both his hands upon the head of the live goat, and confess over him all the iniquities of the children of Israel, and all their transgressions in all their sins, putting them upon the head of the goat, and shall send him away by the hand of a fit man into the wilderness:

22 And the goat shall bear upon him all their iniquities unto a land not inhabited: and he shall let go the goat in the wilderness.
Yeshua is the fatted cow. I personally see no problem with this or contradiction that it is pointing to Yeshua.
So, bascially you're saying that you have no idea how this is a prophecy of 3 people or what the two goats represents or when the fulfillment was of one of the goats having the sins of Israel placed upon it and driven into the wilderness or why the blood of the bullock had it's blood mixed with the other goat. You have no interpretation at all?
wow mocking, I gave you some before and with that response I'm not giving you more.
No, I'm not mocking you at all. I'm simply saying that those are the primary questions of what the story is talking about and I don't see how you answer them. That's why I ask.

I actually have much respect for all the efforts you put into your scripture studies.

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Robin Hood wrote: January 26th, 2023, 1:38 am
Thinker wrote: January 25th, 2023, 7:41 pmSure about that?
Yes.
“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt." ― Bertrand Russell

RH, I admire your intellect in many ways. So I’m not suggesting you’re stupid but rather that pride tends to blind people to facts right in front of them.

There’s a lot of evidence that those who are running things that get a lot of people killed align themselves with Ashkinazi (fake) J ews. And look at their most important scripture - the Talmud which says killing all nonjews is a-ok.

Btw, Ashkinazi are indeed fake because leaders like Trump join the club. It’s not about race or religion now - it’s about secret combinations, under the guise of something that cannot be criticized in many circles.

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Thinker wrote: January 31st, 2023, 3:25 pm There’s a lot of evidence that those who are running things that get a lot of people killed align themselves with Ashkinazi (fake) J ews.
The State of Israel had some of the harshest lockdown and "vaccine" restrictions in the developed world. You couldn't even buy a McDonald's burger without a so called "passport". They got nearly of their population jabbed by Passover 2021, and they started experiencing side effects long before other places. (Their Ministry of Health reported two hundred teenagers and twenty-something men had developed myocardial and other heart-related problems.)

Right now there are big protests in Israel. They have relatively little coverage in the international press and the media has contradicts itself over what they are about. From what I can ascertain, they seem to revolve around Netanyahu trying to undermine the legal system and introduce more restrictive rule for the (non-Arab) population.

Israel has not been doing well out of the recent crisis at all. Their tourist industry has also been massacred by lockdowns and the harsh "vaccine" regulations imposed on visitors.

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Niemand wrote: January 31st, 2023, 3:36 pm
Thinker wrote: January 31st, 2023, 3:25 pm There’s a lot of evidence that those who are running things that get a lot of people killed align themselves with Ashkinazi (fake) J ews.
The State of Israel had some of the harshest lockdown and "vaccine" restrictions in the developed world. You couldn't even buy a McDonald's burger without a so called "passport". They got nearly of their population jabbed by Passover 2021, and they started experiencing side effects long before other places. (Their Ministry of Health reported two hundred teenagers and twenty-something men had developed myocardial and other heart-related problems.)

Right now there are big protests in Israel. They have relatively little coverage in the international press and the media has contradicts itself over what they are about. From what I can ascertain, they seem to revolve around Netanyahu trying to undermine the legal system and introduce more restrictive rule for the (non-Arab) population.

Israel has not been doing well out of the recent crisis at all. Their tourist industry has also been massacred by lockdowns and the harsh "vaccine" regulations imposed on visitors.
Yeah, it reminds me of a modern - much more subtle “politically correct” holocaust. The Protocols talk of “sacrificing our brethren” with the earlier Holocaust… sacrificed them so they could hide behind their victim hood.

Why would UK/US/etc form the state of Israel (1948), kicking out or killing authentic natives, while importing Ashkinazi’s? Why? I really don’t know - just guesses.

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Thinker wrote: January 31st, 2023, 3:49 pm Why would UK/US/etc form the state of Israel (1948), kicking out or killing authentic natives, while importing Ashkinazi’s? Why? I really don’t know - just guesses.
Plenty of reasons. The USA has never been a great lover of Arabs (except the Saudis perhaps.) Ashkenazi were seen as more European and reliable. Also certain Christian viewpoints.

The UK was more ambivalent. A lot of the British Army command preferred Arabs and had a history of co-operation with them e.g. Lawrence of Arabia. So was the USSR which had a strange and contradictory stance over the state of Israel.

Maybe the Americans, British and Soviets had more cynical reasons. The Middle East was a likely place for a new world power to arise, particularly given the Suez Canal and oil reserves. An Israeli state would hinder Arab unity, oppose Iran and prevent such a new power from arising.

I do see the formation of the State of Israel as the fulfilment of prophecy, maybe not in the way some Christians think. It is certainly not a godly state, although godly people can be found in that region. Its actions and its unpopularity may lead to the attack which creates Armageddon.

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Shawn Henry wrote: January 31st, 2023, 10:46 am
SJR3t2 wrote: January 31st, 2023, 9:00 am
Shawn Henry wrote: January 30th, 2023, 12:50 pm
SJR3t2 wrote: January 26th, 2023, 9:17 pm

Yeshua is the fatted cow. I personally see no problem with this or contradiction that it is pointing to Yeshua.
So, bascially you're saying that you have no idea how this is a prophecy of 3 people or what the two goats represents or when the fulfillment was of one of the goats having the sins of Israel placed upon it and driven into the wilderness or why the blood of the bullock had it's blood mixed with the other goat. You have no interpretation at all?
wow mocking, I gave you some before and with that response I'm not giving you more.
No, I'm not mocking you at all. I'm simply saying that those are the primary questions of what the story is talking about and I don't see how you answer them. That's why I ask.

I actually have much respect for all the efforts you put into your scripture studies.
When I have given some answers and you respect my efforts you don't reply with "So, bascially you're saying that you have no idea how this is a prophecy of 3 people or what the two goats represents". So perhaps that was not your intent.

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SJR3t2 wrote: January 31st, 2023, 8:51 pm
Shawn Henry wrote: January 31st, 2023, 10:46 am
SJR3t2 wrote: January 31st, 2023, 9:00 am
Shawn Henry wrote: January 30th, 2023, 12:50 pm
So, bascially you're saying that you have no idea how this is a prophecy of 3 people or what the two goats represents or when the fulfillment was of one of the goats having the sins of Israel placed upon it and driven into the wilderness or why the blood of the bullock had it's blood mixed with the other goat. You have no interpretation at all?
wow mocking, I gave you some before and with that response I'm not giving you more.
No, I'm not mocking you at all. I'm simply saying that those are the primary questions of what the story is talking about and I don't see how you answer them. That's why I ask.

I actually have much respect for all the efforts you put into your scripture studies.
When I have given some answers and you respect my efforts you don't reply with "So, bascially you're saying that you have no idea how this is a prophecy of 3 people or what the two goats represents". So perhaps that was not your intent.
Okay, so help me out and show me who the three individuals are in this prophecy. I'm contending that none of the three are the Savior, it is about 3 of his servants not him. If you think the bullock was the Savior, who was the goat that jointly shed his blood on the mercy seat with the Savior? Do you even agree with me that there are 3 individuals here?

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Shawn Henry wrote: February 1st, 2023, 12:59 pm
SJR3t2 wrote: January 31st, 2023, 8:51 pm
Shawn Henry wrote: January 31st, 2023, 10:46 am
SJR3t2 wrote: January 31st, 2023, 9:00 am

wow mocking, I gave you some before and with that response I'm not giving you more.
No, I'm not mocking you at all. I'm simply saying that those are the primary questions of what the story is talking about and I don't see how you answer them. That's why I ask.

I actually have much respect for all the efforts you put into your scripture studies.
When I have given some answers and you respect my efforts you don't reply with "So, bascially you're saying that you have no idea how this is a prophecy of 3 people or what the two goats represents". So perhaps that was not your intent.
Okay, so help me out and show me who the three individuals are in this prophecy. I'm contending that none of the three are the Savior, it is about 3 of his servants not him. If you think the bullock was the Savior, who was the goat that jointly shed his blood on the mercy seat with the Savior? Do you even agree with me that there are 3 individuals here?
So do you think Joseph is the ram, Hiram and Brigham the goats?

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Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 1:58 pm So do you think Joseph is the ram, Hiram and Brigham the goats?
No, the goats were true prophets who sacrificed themselves for the saints.

Here's what I think, which originates with the blogger Watcher.

The goat and the bullock who both had their blood spilt on the mercy seat were Jospeh and Hyrum. Once that portion of the prophecy was complete, the scapegoat who is Sidney Rigdon had the sins of Israel placed upon him and was driven off into the wilderness "by the hand of a fit man" (Brigham Young).

Leviticus 16 is a prophetic reenactment of the martyrdom and succession crisis.

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Shawn Henry wrote: February 1st, 2023, 2:19 pm
Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 1:58 pm So do you think Joseph is the ram, Hiram and Brigham the goats?
No, the goats were true prophets who sacrificed themselves for the saints.

Here's what I think, which originates with the blogger Watcher.

The goat and the bullock who both had their blood spilt on the mercy seat were Jospeh and Hyrum. Once that portion of the prophecy was complete, the scapegoat who is Sidney Rigdon had the sins of Israel placed upon him and was driven off into the wilderness "by the hand of a fit man" (Brigham Young).

Leviticus 16 is a prophetic reenactment of the martyrdom and succession crisis.
Is this the same "Watcher" who was posting a lot here on this forum?

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Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 2:24 pm
Shawn Henry wrote: February 1st, 2023, 2:19 pm
Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 1:58 pm So do you think Joseph is the ram, Hiram and Brigham the goats?
No, the goats were true prophets who sacrificed themselves for the saints.

Here's what I think, which originates with the blogger Watcher.

The goat and the bullock who both had their blood spilt on the mercy seat were Jospeh and Hyrum. Once that portion of the prophecy was complete, the scapegoat who is Sidney Rigdon had the sins of Israel placed upon him and was driven off into the wilderness "by the hand of a fit man" (Brigham Young).

Leviticus 16 is a prophetic reenactment of the martyrdom and succession crisis.
Is this the same "Watcher" who was posting a lot here on this forum?
To my knowledge, he has never posted here, but many here link his blog.

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Shawn Henry wrote: February 1st, 2023, 12:59 pm
SJR3t2 wrote: January 31st, 2023, 8:51 pm
Shawn Henry wrote: January 31st, 2023, 10:46 am
SJR3t2 wrote: January 31st, 2023, 9:00 am

wow mocking, I gave you some before and with that response I'm not giving you more.
No, I'm not mocking you at all. I'm simply saying that those are the primary questions of what the story is talking about and I don't see how you answer them. That's why I ask.

I actually have much respect for all the efforts you put into your scripture studies.
When I have given some answers and you respect my efforts you don't reply with "So, bascially you're saying that you have no idea how this is a prophecy of 3 people or what the two goats represents". So perhaps that was not your intent.
Okay, so help me out and show me who the three individuals are in this prophecy. I'm contending that none of the three are the Savior, it is about 3 of his servants not him. If you think the bullock was the Savior, who was the goat that jointly shed his blood on the mercy seat with the Savior? Do you even agree with me that there are 3 individuals here?
Actually there is 4 aspects of one person. Going to hell, going to the alter, being the priest, and being the alter.

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SJR3t2 wrote: February 3rd, 2023, 9:05 am
Shawn Henry wrote: February 1st, 2023, 12:59 pm
SJR3t2 wrote: January 31st, 2023, 8:51 pm
Shawn Henry wrote: January 31st, 2023, 10:46 am
No, I'm not mocking you at all. I'm simply saying that those are the primary questions of what the story is talking about and I don't see how you answer them. That's why I ask.

I actually have much respect for all the efforts you put into your scripture studies.
When I have given some answers and you respect my efforts you don't reply with "So, bascially you're saying that you have no idea how this is a prophecy of 3 people or what the two goats represents". So perhaps that was not your intent.
Okay, so help me out and show me who the three individuals are in this prophecy. I'm contending that none of the three are the Savior, it is about 3 of his servants not him. If you think the bullock was the Savior, who was the goat that jointly shed his blood on the mercy seat with the Savior? Do you even agree with me that there are 3 individuals here?
Actually there is 4 aspects of one person. Going to hell, going to the alter, being the priest, and being the alter.
That may be but I see no connection to Leviticus 16. I see the chapter as being a prophecy of a future fulfillment, a time when two prophets were killed, and one was driven off into the wilderness. Joseph and Hyrum were killed and Sidney was driven off.

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Shawn Henry wrote: February 3rd, 2023, 12:41 pm
SJR3t2 wrote: February 3rd, 2023, 9:05 am
Shawn Henry wrote: February 1st, 2023, 12:59 pm
SJR3t2 wrote: January 31st, 2023, 8:51 pm

When I have given some answers and you respect my efforts you don't reply with "So, bascially you're saying that you have no idea how this is a prophecy of 3 people or what the two goats represents". So perhaps that was not your intent.
Okay, so help me out and show me who the three individuals are in this prophecy. I'm contending that none of the three are the Savior, it is about 3 of his servants not him. If you think the bullock was the Savior, who was the goat that jointly shed his blood on the mercy seat with the Savior? Do you even agree with me that there are 3 individuals here?
Actually there is 4 aspects of one person. Going to hell, going to the alter, being the priest, and being the alter.
That may be but I see no connection to Leviticus 16. I see the chapter as being a prophecy of a future fulfillment, a time when two prophets were killed, and one was driven off into the wilderness. Joseph and Hyrum were killed and Sidney was driven off.
We disagree for sure. Um so just to point something out, they were murdered in the same location in the room. Sidney driven off is not in anyway like an atonement ...

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SJR3t2 wrote: February 3rd, 2023, 10:21 pm We disagree for sure. Um so just to point something out, they were murdered in the same location in the room. Sidney driven off is not in anyway like an atonement ...
I understand we disagree, I just wish we could understand how and where we disagree, that way we at least understand each other.

Why do you point out them being murdered in the same location, where are you going with that train of thought?

I think you may be letting the word atonement distract you, substitute it with sacrifice or offering or intercession. This is a true principle, Moses fully believed he could intercede for his people.

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Niemand wrote: January 31st, 2023, 3:59 pm
Thinker wrote: January 31st, 2023, 3:49 pm Why would UK/US/etc form the state of Israel (1948), kicking out or killing authentic natives, while importing Ashkinazi’s? Why? I really don’t know - just guesses.
Plenty of reasons. The USA has never been a great lover of Arabs (except the Saudis perhaps.) Ashkenazi were seen as more European and reliable. Also certain Christian viewpoints.

The UK was more ambivalent. A lot of the British Army command preferred Arabs and had a history of co-operation with them e.g. Lawrence of Arabia. So was the USSR which had a strange and contradictory stance over the state of Israel.

Maybe the Americans, British and Soviets had more cynical reasons. The Middle East was a likely place for a new world power to arise, particularly given the Suez Canal and oil reserves. An Israeli state would hinder Arab unity, oppose Iran and prevent such a new power from arising.

I do see the formation of the State of Israel as the fulfilment of prophecy, maybe not in the way some Christians think. It is certainly not a godly state, although godly people can be found in that region. Its actions and its unpopularity may lead to the attack which creates Armageddon.
Some good points. Basically racial prejudice against middle easterners so they made their own white country in the Middle East, while pretending it’s the “real” chosen place/people.

I can see the attempt to also keep presence there to suppress other potential rivals for superpowers - not as in Superman. :)

I don’t buy all the ancient PSY OPS “prophecies” that end up causing people to HELP bring about evil plans. Religion used for evil is more evil than something else that isn’t posing to be good.

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Shawn Henry wrote: February 4th, 2023, 12:20 pm
SJR3t2 wrote: February 3rd, 2023, 10:21 pm We disagree for sure. Um so just to point something out, they were murdered in the same location in the room. Sidney driven off is not in anyway like an atonement ...
I understand we disagree, I just wish we could understand how and where we disagree, that way we at least understand each other.

Why do you point out them being murdered in the same location, where are you going with that train of thought?

I think you may be letting the word atonement distract you, substitute it with sacrifice or offering or intercession. This is a true principle, Moses fully believed he could intercede for his people.
https://seekingyhwh.org/resources/joseph-smiths-murder/ Because both were murdered in the room.

Not to mention your theory doesn't go along with 4 aspects.

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SJR3t2 wrote: February 4th, 2023, 10:38 pm
Shawn Henry wrote: February 4th, 2023, 12:20 pm
SJR3t2 wrote: February 3rd, 2023, 10:21 pm We disagree for sure. Um so just to point something out, they were murdered in the same location in the room. Sidney driven off is not in anyway like an atonement ...
I understand we disagree, I just wish we could understand how and where we disagree, that way we at least understand each other.

Why do you point out them being murdered in the same location, where are you going with that train of thought?

I think you may be letting the word atonement distract you, substitute it with sacrifice or offering or intercession. This is a true principle, Moses fully believed he could intercede for his people.
https://seekingyhwh.org/resources/joseph-smiths-murder/ Because both were murdered in the room.

Not to mention your theory doesn't go along with 4 aspects.
Yes, both were murdered in the same room. And...

They both had their blood spilt just like in Leviticus.

What 4 aspects are you talking about?

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Shawn Henry wrote: February 5th, 2023, 11:20 am
SJR3t2 wrote: February 4th, 2023, 10:38 pm
Shawn Henry wrote: February 4th, 2023, 12:20 pm
SJR3t2 wrote: February 3rd, 2023, 10:21 pm We disagree for sure. Um so just to point something out, they were murdered in the same location in the room. Sidney driven off is not in anyway like an atonement ...
I understand we disagree, I just wish we could understand how and where we disagree, that way we at least understand each other.

Why do you point out them being murdered in the same location, where are you going with that train of thought?

I think you may be letting the word atonement distract you, substitute it with sacrifice or offering or intercession. This is a true principle, Moses fully believed he could intercede for his people.
https://seekingyhwh.org/resources/joseph-smiths-murder/ Because both were murdered in the room.

Not to mention your theory doesn't go along with 4 aspects.
Yes, both were murdered in the same room. And...

They both had their blood spilt just like in Leviticus.

What 4 aspects are you talking about?
In the account in scriptures they are not murdered in the same location. I already listed the 4 aspects.

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SJR3t2 wrote: February 6th, 2023, 11:08 am
Shawn Henry wrote: February 5th, 2023, 11:20 am
SJR3t2 wrote: February 4th, 2023, 10:38 pm
Shawn Henry wrote: February 4th, 2023, 12:20 pm
I understand we disagree, I just wish we could understand how and where we disagree, that way we at least understand each other.

Why do you point out them being murdered in the same location, where are you going with that train of thought?

I think you may be letting the word atonement distract you, substitute it with sacrifice or offering or intercession. This is a true principle, Moses fully believed he could intercede for his people.
https://seekingyhwh.org/resources/joseph-smiths-murder/ Because both were murdered in the room.

Not to mention your theory doesn't go along with 4 aspects.
Yes, both were murdered in the same room. And...

They both had their blood spilt just like in Leviticus.

What 4 aspects are you talking about?
In the account in scriptures they are not murdered in the same location. I already listed the 4 aspects.
They are not animals either. The big picture things will match, not all the trivia. Joseph didn't die in that room anyway.

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SJR3t2 wrote: February 6th, 2023, 11:08 am. I already listed the 4 aspects.
Yes, and you keep saying that, as if you saying it somehow tells when and where. Be a sport and cut and paste it.

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Shawn Henry wrote: February 3rd, 2023, 12:41 pm
SJR3t2 wrote: February 3rd, 2023, 9:05 am Actually there is 4 aspects of one person. Going to hell, going to the alter, being the priest, and being the alter.
That may be but I see no connection to Leviticus 16. I see the chapter as being a prophecy of a future fulfillment, a time when two prophets were killed, and one was driven off into the wilderness. Joseph and Hyrum were killed and Sidney was driven off.

Many, including Brigham were making Bogus.❗️

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Shawn Henry wrote: February 6th, 2023, 10:54 pm
SJR3t2 wrote: February 6th, 2023, 11:08 am
Shawn Henry wrote: February 5th, 2023, 11:20 am
SJR3t2 wrote: February 4th, 2023, 10:38 pm

https://seekingyhwh.org/resources/joseph-smiths-murder/ Because both were murdered in the room.

Not to mention your theory doesn't go along with 4 aspects.
Yes, both were murdered in the same room. And...

They both had their blood spilt just like in Leviticus.

What 4 aspects are you talking about?
In the account in scriptures they are not murdered in the same location. I already listed the 4 aspects.
They are not animals either. The big picture things will match, not all the trivia. Joseph didn't die in that room anyway.
We disagree about the picture matching at all for sure.

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Shawn Henry wrote: February 6th, 2023, 10:56 pm
SJR3t2 wrote: February 6th, 2023, 11:08 am. I already listed the 4 aspects.
Yes, and you keep saying that, as if you saying it somehow tells when and where. Be a sport and cut and paste it.
the priest is the priest, and the animal he sacrifice prepares the altar

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