War with Russia just went from "if" to "when" today

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Re: War with Russia just went from "if" to "when" today

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spiritMan wrote: February 1st, 2023, 12:42 pm
Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 12:14 pm
spiritMan wrote: February 1st, 2023, 10:47 am
Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 10:40 am
The only Christian religion that is not persecuted or restricted in Russia is Orthodoxy,
And . . . .so. . . .

For most of history, if you weren't part of the state religion you are persecuted.

And don't kid yourself, we absolutely have a state religion in the West. And if you aren't part of the state religion in the West you are absolutely persecuted.
We still have more freedom of religion here in the West than the rest of the world. You can read about it or watch about it if you choose. I'm simply calling for people to wake up to the false promises of those in the East, and don't kid yourself that you'd be better under the rule of Putin than anyone here.
"don't kid yourself that you'd be better under the rule of Putin than anyone here"

Maybe. Russia ain't commies anymore. Autocracy, yes; commies, no.
It doesn't matter what you call the style of authoritarianism. You can't criticize him or the government (or in some instances the country itself) without being taken out. You look at the some of the videos of people trying to interview people in Russia, and many of them say that they are too afraid to speak out. At least here in American you can scream Go Brandon all you want, and you won't be poisoned.

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Re: War with Russia just went from "if" to "when" today

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spiritMan wrote: February 1st, 2023, 12:37 pm
Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 12:10 pm
spiritMan wrote: February 1st, 2023, 10:45 am
Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 10:40 am

They have successfully brainwashed conservatives into thinking Putin is their Christian Savior. The only Christian religion that is not persecuted or restricted in Russia is Orthodoxy, which is controlled by the Kremlin. There is even a cathedral dedicated to the Russian military.

The strategy of the communist conspiracy is to create degeneracy on the one hand, and say to the morally upright, "Look what your freedom and democracy has given you! You cannot govern yourselves! You need a more traditional, authoritarian government to control the liberals and bring Christianity back! We will make sure there are no gays, transgenders, and rights for women. We are Christian conservatives!" It's a bunch of you know what.

There are no rights for the abused in Russia. They do not care about protecting the rights of the weak or the individual. The women and children have no protection against the the abusers, because Putin is using the same strategy with men as he did with the wealthy in St Petersburg, which is how he gained power. He gives them favors, and more power, and lets them have dominion over others, in order to gain loyalists.
"They do not care about protecting the rights of the weak or the individual."

The only reason we are in the mess we are in is because the West is weak morally. It never took a strong defense of it's institutions, values, culture, etc. It just said . . .let everyone be whoever they want.

And now you have drag shows in public schools.

The West promise is everyone should be involved in politics . . . except for most of humanity most people do not WANT or CARE about politics. Politics is for the elite, not the common folk. But drag everyone into politics and you get drag shows.

Good luck as you circle the drain.
It is true, that as a nation, the majority are starting to choose unrighteousness, and because of the freedoms we've been granted by the majority of citizens in the past, (because the people can have a say in law) we've been given more opportunities to choose wickedness in some ways, like our personal choices. In other ways, the rest of the world has more freedom to lie, cheat, and commit violence without getting punished. We have more rule of law here than the rest of the world. We could argue, is someone's immoral sexual actions a worse crime than using lies, bribery and force against others? Would you rather be under the rule of a tyrant who promises to enforce laws against sexual deviancy or enforce their version of Christianity, or a constitutional republic that may allow bad behavior to exist and even flourish, but at least you have freedom in other areas of life?

The same people who want to take away the freedom of all lands hate the constitution and the idea of a balance of power. They want all the power and resources to themselves. These same people have conspired for decades to fund and nourish everything bad that goes on in America and the West, in order to have a bad guy, and justification for bringing America down. Putin, who has funded the truther movement in order to deceive the right-wing, would destroy the constitution or simply ignore it should he take over America, which he and Xi are planning on doing.
Well, I encourage you to think about this a little bit more. If you really were a libertarian, you would get all kinds of sexual deviancy and selfishness coming about. If you don't like your kids being indoctrinated (and there are still many areas of the country that are not as you make it out to be) you have the freedom to educate them yourself. So it appears that you are not libertarian, but socialist when it comes to education and what you want enforced.
"Would you rather be under the rule of a tyrant who promises to enforce laws against sexual deviancy or enforce their version of Christianity, or a constitutional republic that may allow bad behavior to exist and even flourish, but at least you have freedom in other areas of life?"

I'd rather live under the tyrant who enforces laws against sexual deviancy. At least I wouldn't have to worry about my 5 year old being indoctrinated into thinking he is a she and needs to cut off his privates. At least I wouldn't have to worry about that 5 year old interacting with a bunch of other deviant sicko adults.

The idea or concept that one can live in absolute "freedom" is bull@#$%. And you know it . . . and I'm actually very libertarian at heart.

Dude, MN just passed a law that allows "abortion" up to the minute of birth. 9 months and as long as the baby is in the mother's body it's not murder, outside the body and well that's murder . . .I guess . . .

What you do NOT seem to understand is that the illusion of "freedom" we had was due to a very unique period of time in history. A massive country with a FUNDAMENTAL Judeo-Christian basis of laws.

The "freedom" we had was always rooted in the basics of the 10 commandments. And now you are seeing the results of what happens to a country that has no basis in fundamental Judeo-Christian laws.

And if you don't think that they will ABSOLUTELY ram their perverted laws down everyone's throat first under the guise of "freedom" and then simply b/c they have the ability to do so-you've got another thing coming.

Wake up and smell the coffee . . . they use "freedom" to get the hooks in and then create laws to solidify their morality. They don't play by the same rules. You'll get your tyrant one way or another.
Well, I encourage you to think about this a little bit more. If you really were a libertarian, you would get all kinds of sexual deviancy and selfishness coming about. If you don't like your kids being indoctrinated (and there are still many areas of the country that are not as you make it out to be) you have the freedom to educate them yourself. So it appears that you are not libertarian, but socialist when it comes to education and what you want enforced.

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Re: War with Russia just went from "if" to "when" today

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spiritMan wrote: February 1st, 2023, 12:37 pm
Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 12:10 pm
spiritMan wrote: February 1st, 2023, 10:45 am
Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 10:40 am

They have successfully brainwashed conservatives into thinking Putin is their Christian Savior. The only Christian religion that is not persecuted or restricted in Russia is Orthodoxy, which is controlled by the Kremlin. There is even a cathedral dedicated to the Russian military.

The strategy of the communist conspiracy is to create degeneracy on the one hand, and say to the morally upright, "Look what your freedom and democracy has given you! You cannot govern yourselves! You need a more traditional, authoritarian government to control the liberals and bring Christianity back! We will make sure there are no gays, transgenders, and rights for women. We are Christian conservatives!" It's a bunch of you know what.

There are no rights for the abused in Russia. They do not care about protecting the rights of the weak or the individual. The women and children have no protection against the the abusers, because Putin is using the same strategy with men as he did with the wealthy in St Petersburg, which is how he gained power. He gives them favors, and more power, and lets them have dominion over others, in order to gain loyalists.
"They do not care about protecting the rights of the weak or the individual."

The only reason we are in the mess we are in is because the West is weak morally. It never took a strong defense of it's institutions, values, culture, etc. It just said . . .let everyone be whoever they want.

And now you have drag shows in public schools.

The West promise is everyone should be involved in politics . . . except for most of humanity most people do not WANT or CARE about politics. Politics is for the elite, not the common folk. But drag everyone into politics and you get drag shows.

Good luck as you circle the drain.
It is true, that as a nation, the majority are starting to choose unrighteousness, and because of the freedoms we've been granted by the majority of citizens in the past, (because the people can have a say in law) we've been given more opportunities to choose wickedness in some ways, like our personal choices. In other ways, the rest of the world has more freedom to lie, cheat, and commit violence without getting punished. We have more rule of law here than the rest of the world. We could argue, is someone's immoral sexual actions a worse crime than using lies, bribery and force against others? Would you rather be under the rule of a tyrant who promises to enforce laws against sexual deviancy or enforce their version of Christianity, or a constitutional republic that may allow bad behavior to exist and even flourish, but at least you have freedom in other areas of life?

The same people who want to take away the freedom of all lands hate the constitution and the idea of a balance of power. They want all the power and resources to themselves. These same people have conspired for decades to fund and nourish everything bad that goes on in America and the West, in order to have a bad guy, and justification for bringing America down. Putin, who has funded the truther movement in order to deceive the right-wing, would destroy the constitution or simply ignore it should he take over America, which he and Xi are planning on doing.
"Would you rather be under the rule of a tyrant who promises to enforce laws against sexual deviancy or enforce their version of Christianity, or a constitutional republic that may allow bad behavior to exist and even flourish, but at least you have freedom in other areas of life?"

I'd rather live under the tyrant who enforces laws against sexual deviancy. At least I wouldn't have to worry about my 5 year old being indoctrinated into thinking he is a she and needs to cut off his privates. At least I wouldn't have to worry about that 5 year old interacting with a bunch of other deviant sicko adults.

The idea or concept that one can live in absolute "freedom" is bull@#$%. And you know it . . . and I'm actually very libertarian at heart.

Dude, MN just passed a law that allows "abortion" up to the minute of birth. 9 months and as long as the baby is in the mother's body it's not murder, outside the body and well that's murder . . .I guess . . .

What you do NOT seem to understand is that the illusion of "freedom" we had was due to a very unique period of time in history. A massive country with a FUNDAMENTAL Judeo-Christian basis of laws.

The "freedom" we had was always rooted in the basics of the 10 commandments. And now you are seeing the results of what happens to a country that has no basis in fundamental Judeo-Christian laws.

And if you don't think that they will ABSOLUTELY ram their perverted laws down everyone's throat first under the guise of "freedom" and then simply b/c they have the ability to do so-you've got another thing coming.

Wake up and smell the coffee . . . they use "freedom" to get the hooks in and then create laws to solidify their morality. They don't play by the same rules. You'll get your tyrant one way or another.
That's why the only way to preserve freedom and morality is to preach the gospel. Looking for a political savior is the last thing you want to do. Stick to the constitution, and yes, when the dollar crashes and we go boom, that's when we will need to stand behind the constitution, and seek the Lord's help to stop the armies of Putin and Xi.

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Re: War with Russia just went from "if" to "when" today

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Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 1:06 pm
spiritMan wrote: February 1st, 2023, 12:37 pm
Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 12:10 pm
spiritMan wrote: February 1st, 2023, 10:45 am
"They do not care about protecting the rights of the weak or the individual."

The only reason we are in the mess we are in is because the West is weak morally. It never took a strong defense of it's institutions, values, culture, etc. It just said . . .let everyone be whoever they want.

And now you have drag shows in public schools.

The West promise is everyone should be involved in politics . . . except for most of humanity most people do not WANT or CARE about politics. Politics is for the elite, not the common folk. But drag everyone into politics and you get drag shows.

Good luck as you circle the drain.
It is true, that as a nation, the majority are starting to choose unrighteousness, and because of the freedoms we've been granted by the majority of citizens in the past, (because the people can have a say in law) we've been given more opportunities to choose wickedness in some ways, like our personal choices. In other ways, the rest of the world has more freedom to lie, cheat, and commit violence without getting punished. We have more rule of law here than the rest of the world. We could argue, is someone's immoral sexual actions a worse crime than using lies, bribery and force against others? Would you rather be under the rule of a tyrant who promises to enforce laws against sexual deviancy or enforce their version of Christianity, or a constitutional republic that may allow bad behavior to exist and even flourish, but at least you have freedom in other areas of life?

The same people who want to take away the freedom of all lands hate the constitution and the idea of a balance of power. They want all the power and resources to themselves. These same people have conspired for decades to fund and nourish everything bad that goes on in America and the West, in order to have a bad guy, and justification for bringing America down. Putin, who has funded the truther movement in order to deceive the right-wing, would destroy the constitution or simply ignore it should he take over America, which he and Xi are planning on doing.
"Would you rather be under the rule of a tyrant who promises to enforce laws against sexual deviancy or enforce their version of Christianity, or a constitutional republic that may allow bad behavior to exist and even flourish, but at least you have freedom in other areas of life?"

I'd rather live under the tyrant who enforces laws against sexual deviancy. At least I wouldn't have to worry about my 5 year old being indoctrinated into thinking he is a she and needs to cut off his privates. At least I wouldn't have to worry about that 5 year old interacting with a bunch of other deviant sicko adults.

The idea or concept that one can live in absolute "freedom" is bull@#$%. And you know it . . . and I'm actually very libertarian at heart.

Dude, MN just passed a law that allows "abortion" up to the minute of birth. 9 months and as long as the baby is in the mother's body it's not murder, outside the body and well that's murder . . .I guess . . .

What you do NOT seem to understand is that the illusion of "freedom" we had was due to a very unique period of time in history. A massive country with a FUNDAMENTAL Judeo-Christian basis of laws.

The "freedom" we had was always rooted in the basics of the 10 commandments. And now you are seeing the results of what happens to a country that has no basis in fundamental Judeo-Christian laws.

And if you don't think that they will ABSOLUTELY ram their perverted laws down everyone's throat first under the guise of "freedom" and then simply b/c they have the ability to do so-you've got another thing coming.

Wake up and smell the coffee . . . they use "freedom" to get the hooks in and then create laws to solidify their morality. They don't play by the same rules. You'll get your tyrant one way or another.
That's why the only way to preserve freedom and morality is to preach the gospel. Looking for a political savior is the last thing you want to do. Stick to the constitution, and yes, when the dollar crashes and we go boom, that's when we will need to stand behind the constitution, and seek the Lord's help to stop the armies of Putin and Xi.
There are no political solutions to our pending destruction because the Prophets have seen our day and have told us the ending to the story; we will be swept off the promised land. The only solution is to "live the Gospel" wherein we take care of the poor and oppressed. One may spend a lot of time chasing rabbits down endless holes or following certain politicians or chasing the money or evaluating policies ... trying to understand what is going on in the world but there is absolutely nothing we can do to change the outcome unless we accept God's challenge as found in Isaiah chapter 1:

16) Wash yourselves clean:
remove your wicked deeds
from before my eyes;
cease to do evil.

17) Learn to do good: demand justice,
stand up for the oppressed;
plead the cause of the fatherless,
appeal on behalf of the widow.

18) Come now, let us put it to the test,
says Jehovah:
though your sins are as scarlet,
they can be made white as snow;
though they have reddened as crimson,
they may become white as wool.

19) If you are willing and obey,
you shall eat the good of the land.

20) But if you are unwilling and disobey,
you shall be eaten by the sword.
By his mouth Jehovah has spoken it.


It's beyond obvious that the government of Ukraine is corrupt to the very core and that this war will likely drag the whole world into another major conflict. The leaders of the USA are moral reprobates who have sold their souls whilst my Canadian leaders are fools and idiots. Most of our secular leaders display their allegiance to Satan when they flash around those Masonic signs. Even one of our beloved church Presidents can be seen doing the same thing when he shook hands with Dubya using the "Sure Sign of the Nail." Was not this the same President who exclaimed, "1, 2, 3 Let's Go Shopping" at the opening of a large glass and steel monument to consumerism?

What frustrates me is that I see what is happening and I am powerless to change it. As a people, we LDS have adopted the ways of Babylon and have become distracted by the shiny stuff this world produces. Our only hope is to be saved as individuals by sacrificing our shiny stuff so that others may eat and dwell in safety OR be one of those that recognize the call of the Servant (not RMN whom Renlund likes to think of as a latter-day Moses) and make the trek to Zion or the New Jerusalem.

I often shed tears when I look into the eyes of my innocent grand-children and begin to realize the horrors they will likely experience within the next few years. We have reached the fulness of times of the Gentiles and we have rejected the covenant that would have saved us in exchange for jobs that pay with money, cars, nice clothes, TVs, boats...

I pray for the citizens of Ukraine who are stuck in the middle of a manufactured war and I pray that I will become more charitable as conditions quickly worsen around the world. I pray that I will never back down or cower when defending correct principles and when testifying of Christ. I pray that I will be worthy to enter Zion.

Mike

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Re: War with Russia just went from "if" to "when" today

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MikeMaillet wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 6:35 am
Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 1:06 pm
spiritMan wrote: February 1st, 2023, 12:37 pm
Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 12:10 pm

It is true, that as a nation, the majority are starting to choose unrighteousness, and because of the freedoms we've been granted by the majority of citizens in the past, (because the people can have a say in law) we've been given more opportunities to choose wickedness in some ways, like our personal choices. In other ways, the rest of the world has more freedom to lie, cheat, and commit violence without getting punished. We have more rule of law here than the rest of the world. We could argue, is someone's immoral sexual actions a worse crime than using lies, bribery and force against others? Would you rather be under the rule of a tyrant who promises to enforce laws against sexual deviancy or enforce their version of Christianity, or a constitutional republic that may allow bad behavior to exist and even flourish, but at least you have freedom in other areas of life?

The same people who want to take away the freedom of all lands hate the constitution and the idea of a balance of power. They want all the power and resources to themselves. These same people have conspired for decades to fund and nourish everything bad that goes on in America and the West, in order to have a bad guy, and justification for bringing America down. Putin, who has funded the truther movement in order to deceive the right-wing, would destroy the constitution or simply ignore it should he take over America, which he and Xi are planning on doing.
"Would you rather be under the rule of a tyrant who promises to enforce laws against sexual deviancy or enforce their version of Christianity, or a constitutional republic that may allow bad behavior to exist and even flourish, but at least you have freedom in other areas of life?"

I'd rather live under the tyrant who enforces laws against sexual deviancy. At least I wouldn't have to worry about my 5 year old being indoctrinated into thinking he is a she and needs to cut off his privates. At least I wouldn't have to worry about that 5 year old interacting with a bunch of other deviant sicko adults.

The idea or concept that one can live in absolute "freedom" is bull@#$%. And you know it . . . and I'm actually very libertarian at heart.

Dude, MN just passed a law that allows "abortion" up to the minute of birth. 9 months and as long as the baby is in the mother's body it's not murder, outside the body and well that's murder . . .I guess . . .

What you do NOT seem to understand is that the illusion of "freedom" we had was due to a very unique period of time in history. A massive country with a FUNDAMENTAL Judeo-Christian basis of laws.

The "freedom" we had was always rooted in the basics of the 10 commandments. And now you are seeing the results of what happens to a country that has no basis in fundamental Judeo-Christian laws.

And if you don't think that they will ABSOLUTELY ram their perverted laws down everyone's throat first under the guise of "freedom" and then simply b/c they have the ability to do so-you've got another thing coming.

Wake up and smell the coffee . . . they use "freedom" to get the hooks in and then create laws to solidify their morality. They don't play by the same rules. You'll get your tyrant one way or another.
That's why the only way to preserve freedom and morality is to preach the gospel. Looking for a political savior is the last thing you want to do. Stick to the constitution, and yes, when the dollar crashes and we go boom, that's when we will need to stand behind the constitution, and seek the Lord's help to stop the armies of Putin and Xi.
There are no political solutions to our pending destruction because the Prophets have seen our day and have told us the ending to the story; we will be swept off the promised land. The only solution is to "live the Gospel" wherein we take care of the poor and oppressed. One may spend a lot of time chasing rabbits down endless holes or following certain politicians or chasing the money or evaluating policies ... trying to understand what is going on in the world but there is absolutely nothing we can do to change the outcome unless we accept God's challenge as found in Isaiah chapter 1:

16) Wash yourselves clean:
remove your wicked deeds
from before my eyes;
cease to do evil.

17) Learn to do good: demand justice,
stand up for the oppressed;
plead the cause of the fatherless,
appeal on behalf of the widow.

18) Come now, let us put it to the test,
says Jehovah:
though your sins are as scarlet,
they can be made white as snow;
though they have reddened as crimson,
they may become white as wool.

19) If you are willing and obey,
you shall eat the good of the land.

20) But if you are unwilling and disobey,
you shall be eaten by the sword.
By his mouth Jehovah has spoken it.


It's beyond obvious that the government of Ukraine is corrupt to the very core and that this war will likely drag the whole world into another major conflict. The leaders of the USA are moral reprobates who have sold their souls whilst my Canadian leaders are fools and idiots. Most of our secular leaders display their allegiance to Satan when they flash around those Masonic signs. Even one of our beloved church Presidents can be seen doing the same thing when he shook hands with Dubya using the "Sure Sign of the Nail." Was not this the same President who exclaimed, "1, 2, 3 Let's Go Shopping" at the opening of a large glass and steel monument to consumerism?

What frustrates me is that I see what is happening and I am powerless to change it. As a people, we LDS have adopted the ways of Babylon and have become distracted by the shiny stuff this world produces. Our only hope is to be saved as individuals by sacrificing our shiny stuff so that others may eat and dwell in safety OR be one of those that recognize the call of the Servant (not RMN whom Renlund likes to think of as a latter-day Moses) and make the trek to Zion or the New Jerusalem.

I often shed tears when I look into the eyes of my innocent grand-children and begin to realize the horrors they will likely experience within the next few years. We have reached the fulness of times of the Gentiles and we have rejected the covenant that would have saved us in exchange for jobs that pay with money, cars, nice clothes, TVs, boats...

I pray for the citizens of Ukraine who are stuck in the middle of a manufactured war and I pray that I will become more charitable as conditions quickly worsen around the world. I pray that I will never back down or cower when defending correct principles and when testifying of Christ. I pray that I will be worthy to enter Zion.

Mike
Agree with first part of your post - indeed, the most important thing is to live the gospel, give to poor, become like our Savior.

I also agree it is a manufactured war, but the Ukrainian government and NATO are all doing the bidding of the Kremlin, because of the entrenched infiltrators and compromised individuals the Kremlin has placed in Western institutions, especially in Ukraine. Putin needed a war and fake uprising to take Ukraine, just like he did in Georgia and other satellite states where his puppets are now ruling.

It is a false narrative put out by the long-running, Kremlin funded, truther movement (think Alex Jones and everyone after him who started talking about "globalists") to believe that Putin is defending himself against the imperialist West. The plan has always been to get the West to appear imperialist so the rest of the world would have an excuse to destroy America, Western governments and institutions, with their constitutional government and Christian roots and the freedom to live one's religion. Putin is a fake Christian who persecutes Christians in his own country.

If NATO was really intent on starting a war to bring in their Western "New World Order," you would see NATO countries doing the same things that Russia and China have been doing, - building up their militaries and nuclear arsenals, accumulating gold, putting away food and oil reserves for a time of war. But what we see instead is a decline in all these areas in the West, with a decades long plan in place to have compromised Western leaders hand over their countries to the Communist conspiracy of the East.

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Re: War with Russia just went from "if" to "when" today

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Sarah wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 10:14 am
MikeMaillet wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 6:35 am
Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 1:06 pm
spiritMan wrote: February 1st, 2023, 12:37 pm
"Would you rather be under the rule of a tyrant who promises to enforce laws against sexual deviancy or enforce their version of Christianity, or a constitutional republic that may allow bad behavior to exist and even flourish, but at least you have freedom in other areas of life?"

I'd rather live under the tyrant who enforces laws against sexual deviancy. At least I wouldn't have to worry about my 5 year old being indoctrinated into thinking he is a she and needs to cut off his privates. At least I wouldn't have to worry about that 5 year old interacting with a bunch of other deviant sicko adults.

The idea or concept that one can live in absolute "freedom" is bull@#$%. And you know it . . . and I'm actually very libertarian at heart.

Dude, MN just passed a law that allows "abortion" up to the minute of birth. 9 months and as long as the baby is in the mother's body it's not murder, outside the body and well that's murder . . .I guess . . .

What you do NOT seem to understand is that the illusion of "freedom" we had was due to a very unique period of time in history. A massive country with a FUNDAMENTAL Judeo-Christian basis of laws.

The "freedom" we had was always rooted in the basics of the 10 commandments. And now you are seeing the results of what happens to a country that has no basis in fundamental Judeo-Christian laws.

And if you don't think that they will ABSOLUTELY ram their perverted laws down everyone's throat first under the guise of "freedom" and then simply b/c they have the ability to do so-you've got another thing coming.

Wake up and smell the coffee . . . they use "freedom" to get the hooks in and then create laws to solidify their morality. They don't play by the same rules. You'll get your tyrant one way or another.
That's why the only way to preserve freedom and morality is to preach the gospel. Looking for a political savior is the last thing you want to do. Stick to the constitution, and yes, when the dollar crashes and we go boom, that's when we will need to stand behind the constitution, and seek the Lord's help to stop the armies of Putin and Xi.
There are no political solutions to our pending destruction because the Prophets have seen our day and have told us the ending to the story; we will be swept off the promised land. The only solution is to "live the Gospel" wherein we take care of the poor and oppressed. One may spend a lot of time chasing rabbits down endless holes or following certain politicians or chasing the money or evaluating policies ... trying to understand what is going on in the world but there is absolutely nothing we can do to change the outcome unless we accept God's challenge as found in Isaiah chapter 1:

16) Wash yourselves clean:
remove your wicked deeds
from before my eyes;
cease to do evil.

17) Learn to do good: demand justice,
stand up for the oppressed;
plead the cause of the fatherless,
appeal on behalf of the widow.

18) Come now, let us put it to the test,
says Jehovah:
though your sins are as scarlet,
they can be made white as snow;
though they have reddened as crimson,
they may become white as wool.

19) If you are willing and obey,
you shall eat the good of the land.

20) But if you are unwilling and disobey,
you shall be eaten by the sword.
By his mouth Jehovah has spoken it.


It's beyond obvious that the government of Ukraine is corrupt to the very core and that this war will likely drag the whole world into another major conflict. The leaders of the USA are moral reprobates who have sold their souls whilst my Canadian leaders are fools and idiots. Most of our secular leaders display their allegiance to Satan when they flash around those Masonic signs. Even one of our beloved church Presidents can be seen doing the same thing when he shook hands with Dubya using the "Sure Sign of the Nail." Was not this the same President who exclaimed, "1, 2, 3 Let's Go Shopping" at the opening of a large glass and steel monument to consumerism?

What frustrates me is that I see what is happening and I am powerless to change it. As a people, we LDS have adopted the ways of Babylon and have become distracted by the shiny stuff this world produces. Our only hope is to be saved as individuals by sacrificing our shiny stuff so that others may eat and dwell in safety OR be one of those that recognize the call of the Servant (not RMN whom Renlund likes to think of as a latter-day Moses) and make the trek to Zion or the New Jerusalem.

I often shed tears when I look into the eyes of my innocent grand-children and begin to realize the horrors they will likely experience within the next few years. We have reached the fulness of times of the Gentiles and we have rejected the covenant that would have saved us in exchange for jobs that pay with money, cars, nice clothes, TVs, boats...

I pray for the citizens of Ukraine who are stuck in the middle of a manufactured war and I pray that I will become more charitable as conditions quickly worsen around the world. I pray that I will never back down or cower when defending correct principles and when testifying of Christ. I pray that I will be worthy to enter Zion.

Mike
but the Ukrainian government and NATO are all doing the bidding of the Kremlin, because of the entrenched infiltrators and compromised individuals the Kremlin has placed in Western institutions, especially in Ukraine. Putin needed a war and fake uprising to take Ukraine, just like he did in Georgia and other satellite states where his puppets are now ruling.
My goodness . . .2016 really did mess people up. Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.

Do the elites get together at summits? Yes.
Do the elites agree lockstep with each other? No.
What happens when elites do NOT agree with each other and have severe disagreements? Wars. Trade Wars. Sanctions. Etc.

The idea that Z or the West are having their strings pulled by Putin is absolute insanity.

What is really happening is that Western Elites are having huge disagreements with Eastern Elites.

Western Elites say "we are the rulers, we'll let you play in the game, but we get to say who plays and who doesn't."
Eastern Elites say "BS. It is true for a long, long time you set the stage and determined who plays and who doesn't. You are weaker now than before, we are stronger than before, we aren't going to play by the same rules as before".

SMH . . .elites do NOT WANT war. Wars are not good for the elites. Anyone who studies history knows that wars are very, very tricky things for the Elite. Many, many, many rulers have been overthrown b/c of a bad war. . . .ESPECIALLY in Russia.

The last Czar of Russia was overthrown b/c of a bad war.

The statement above is just lunacy.

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spiritMan wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 10:29 am
Sarah wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 10:14 am
MikeMaillet wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 6:35 am
Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 1:06 pm

That's why the only way to preserve freedom and morality is to preach the gospel. Looking for a political savior is the last thing you want to do. Stick to the constitution, and yes, when the dollar crashes and we go boom, that's when we will need to stand behind the constitution, and seek the Lord's help to stop the armies of Putin and Xi.
There are no political solutions to our pending destruction because the Prophets have seen our day and have told us the ending to the story; we will be swept off the promised land. The only solution is to "live the Gospel" wherein we take care of the poor and oppressed. One may spend a lot of time chasing rabbits down endless holes or following certain politicians or chasing the money or evaluating policies ... trying to understand what is going on in the world but there is absolutely nothing we can do to change the outcome unless we accept God's challenge as found in Isaiah chapter 1:

16) Wash yourselves clean:
remove your wicked deeds
from before my eyes;
cease to do evil.

17) Learn to do good: demand justice,
stand up for the oppressed;
plead the cause of the fatherless,
appeal on behalf of the widow.

18) Come now, let us put it to the test,
says Jehovah:
though your sins are as scarlet,
they can be made white as snow;
though they have reddened as crimson,
they may become white as wool.

19) If you are willing and obey,
you shall eat the good of the land.

20) But if you are unwilling and disobey,
you shall be eaten by the sword.
By his mouth Jehovah has spoken it.


It's beyond obvious that the government of Ukraine is corrupt to the very core and that this war will likely drag the whole world into another major conflict. The leaders of the USA are moral reprobates who have sold their souls whilst my Canadian leaders are fools and idiots. Most of our secular leaders display their allegiance to Satan when they flash around those Masonic signs. Even one of our beloved church Presidents can be seen doing the same thing when he shook hands with Dubya using the "Sure Sign of the Nail." Was not this the same President who exclaimed, "1, 2, 3 Let's Go Shopping" at the opening of a large glass and steel monument to consumerism?

What frustrates me is that I see what is happening and I am powerless to change it. As a people, we LDS have adopted the ways of Babylon and have become distracted by the shiny stuff this world produces. Our only hope is to be saved as individuals by sacrificing our shiny stuff so that others may eat and dwell in safety OR be one of those that recognize the call of the Servant (not RMN whom Renlund likes to think of as a latter-day Moses) and make the trek to Zion or the New Jerusalem.

I often shed tears when I look into the eyes of my innocent grand-children and begin to realize the horrors they will likely experience within the next few years. We have reached the fulness of times of the Gentiles and we have rejected the covenant that would have saved us in exchange for jobs that pay with money, cars, nice clothes, TVs, boats...

I pray for the citizens of Ukraine who are stuck in the middle of a manufactured war and I pray that I will become more charitable as conditions quickly worsen around the world. I pray that I will never back down or cower when defending correct principles and when testifying of Christ. I pray that I will be worthy to enter Zion.

Mike
but the Ukrainian government and NATO are all doing the bidding of the Kremlin, because of the entrenched infiltrators and compromised individuals the Kremlin has placed in Western institutions, especially in Ukraine. Putin needed a war and fake uprising to take Ukraine, just like he did in Georgia and other satellite states where his puppets are now ruling.
My goodness . . .2016 really did mess people up. Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.

Do the elites get together at summits? Yes.
Do the elites agree lockstep with each other? No.
What happens when elites do NOT agree with each other and have severe disagreements? Wars. Trade Wars. Sanctions. Etc.

The idea that Z or the West are having their strings pulled by Putin is absolute insanity.

What is really happening is that Western Elites are having huge disagreements with Eastern Elites.

Western Elites say "we are the rulers, we'll let you play in the game, but we get to say who plays and who doesn't."
Eastern Elites say "BS. It is true for a long, long time you set the stage and determined who plays and who doesn't. You are weaker now than before, we are stronger than before, we aren't going to play by the same rules as before".

SMH . . .elites do NOT WANT war. Wars are not good for the elites. Anyone who studies history knows that wars are very, very tricky things for the Elite. Many, many, many rulers have been overthrown b/c of a bad war. . . .ESPECIALLY in Russia.

The last Czar of Russia was overthrown b/c of a bad war.

The statement above is just lunacy.
The Bankster Elites are pushing for WWIII.

It is prescribed by their soothsayers.

And they follow their soothsayers.

War is very good for the Banksters.

It is how they eat their rivals.

There will be war.

When, where?

When, wherever the Rothschilds want it to be.

What we want doesn't matter.

Never has.

Mooooo.

Sir H

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HVDC wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 1:54 pm

The Bankster Elites are pushing for WWIII.

It is prescribed by their soothsayers.

And they follow their soothsayers.

War is very good for the Banksters.

It is how they eat their rivals.

There will be war.

When, where?

When, wherever the Rothschilds want it to be.

What we want doesn't matter.

Never has.

Mooooo.

Sir H
shhhhhhhhh..... they kill the rooster that makes too much noise!

(The money/evil trail is so very easy to follow these days. They no longer try to hide)

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Subcomandante wrote: June 29th, 2022, 4:02 pm
The Red Pill wrote: June 29th, 2022, 3:45 pm Uchtdorf and Oaks should once again...be so proud...for donating and acting as the apologist.

How many will die in this war???


https://theconservativetreehouse.com/bl ... ore-234620
Putin started this war, not Biden.

Trump is not coming back. Especially after yesterday's damning testimony against him.
LOL, there is much more afoot in Ukraine. Putin is not just some madman warmonger. Putin was all but cornered into doing something. The western power brokers want this war. And who cares about Biden and Trump, they are just feathers. The power is in the real heads of the Eagle.

There are so many breadcrumbs to follow with the history that brought us to this point.

One thing about Biden concerning Ukraine. The Bidens were deeply involved in the events that brought war to Ukraine. But maybe it is just a coincidence that...
Biden was involved in corruption in Ukraine
Biden was involved in corruption in China
Biden was working on energy deals between China and Ukraine
Biden's first act in office was to close down the Canadian competition (who wanted to ship energy to Europe through the pipeline)
Someone blew up Russia's pipeline
there is another competing pipeline that is proposed to go from Qatar to Europe
...wait a sec, that pipeline would go through Syria, I suppose that's as good a reason as any to try to conduct regime change in Syria (I suppose Syria wasn't playing ball)
coincidentally Russia also sent troops to Syria
Zalinsky is trying to sell Ukraine to sell-out Ukraine to western multi-nationals

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spiritMan wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 10:29 am
Sarah wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 10:14 am
MikeMaillet wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 6:35 am
Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 1:06 pm

That's why the only way to preserve freedom and morality is to preach the gospel. Looking for a political savior is the last thing you want to do. Stick to the constitution, and yes, when the dollar crashes and we go boom, that's when we will need to stand behind the constitution, and seek the Lord's help to stop the armies of Putin and Xi.
There are no political solutions to our pending destruction because the Prophets have seen our day and have told us the ending to the story; we will be swept off the promised land. The only solution is to "live the Gospel" wherein we take care of the poor and oppressed. One may spend a lot of time chasing rabbits down endless holes or following certain politicians or chasing the money or evaluating policies ... trying to understand what is going on in the world but there is absolutely nothing we can do to change the outcome unless we accept God's challenge as found in Isaiah chapter 1:

16) Wash yourselves clean:
remove your wicked deeds
from before my eyes;
cease to do evil.

17) Learn to do good: demand justice,
stand up for the oppressed;
plead the cause of the fatherless,
appeal on behalf of the widow.

18) Come now, let us put it to the test,
says Jehovah:
though your sins are as scarlet,
they can be made white as snow;
though they have reddened as crimson,
they may become white as wool.

19) If you are willing and obey,
you shall eat the good of the land.

20) But if you are unwilling and disobey,
you shall be eaten by the sword.
By his mouth Jehovah has spoken it.


It's beyond obvious that the government of Ukraine is corrupt to the very core and that this war will likely drag the whole world into another major conflict. The leaders of the USA are moral reprobates who have sold their souls whilst my Canadian leaders are fools and idiots. Most of our secular leaders display their allegiance to Satan when they flash around those Masonic signs. Even one of our beloved church Presidents can be seen doing the same thing when he shook hands with Dubya using the "Sure Sign of the Nail." Was not this the same President who exclaimed, "1, 2, 3 Let's Go Shopping" at the opening of a large glass and steel monument to consumerism?

What frustrates me is that I see what is happening and I am powerless to change it. As a people, we LDS have adopted the ways of Babylon and have become distracted by the shiny stuff this world produces. Our only hope is to be saved as individuals by sacrificing our shiny stuff so that others may eat and dwell in safety OR be one of those that recognize the call of the Servant (not RMN whom Renlund likes to think of as a latter-day Moses) and make the trek to Zion or the New Jerusalem.

I often shed tears when I look into the eyes of my innocent grand-children and begin to realize the horrors they will likely experience within the next few years. We have reached the fulness of times of the Gentiles and we have rejected the covenant that would have saved us in exchange for jobs that pay with money, cars, nice clothes, TVs, boats...

I pray for the citizens of Ukraine who are stuck in the middle of a manufactured war and I pray that I will become more charitable as conditions quickly worsen around the world. I pray that I will never back down or cower when defending correct principles and when testifying of Christ. I pray that I will be worthy to enter Zion.

Mike
but the Ukrainian government and NATO are all doing the bidding of the Kremlin, because of the entrenched infiltrators and compromised individuals the Kremlin has placed in Western institutions, especially in Ukraine. Putin needed a war and fake uprising to take Ukraine, just like he did in Georgia and other satellite states where his puppets are now ruling.
My goodness . . .2016 really did mess people up. Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.

Do the elites get together at summits? Yes.
Do the elites agree lockstep with each other? No.
What happens when elites do NOT agree with each other and have severe disagreements? Wars. Trade Wars. Sanctions. Etc.

The idea that Z or the West are having their strings pulled by Putin is absolute insanity.

What is really happening is that Western Elites are having huge disagreements with Eastern Elites.

Western Elites say "we are the rulers, we'll let you play in the game, but we get to say who plays and who doesn't."
Eastern Elites say "BS. It is true for a long, long time you set the stage and determined who plays and who doesn't. You are weaker now than before, we are stronger than before, we aren't going to play by the same rules as before".

SMH . . .elites do NOT WANT war. Wars are not good for the elites. Anyone who studies history knows that wars are very, very tricky things for the Elite. Many, many, many rulers have been overthrown b/c of a bad war. . . .ESPECIALLY in Russia.

The last Czar of Russia was overthrown b/c of a bad war.

The statement above is just lunacy.
Speaking of lunacy, it makes a lot of sense that Zelenski reportedly asked Biden to make sure America did not sanction Putin's greatest stooge - Roman Abramovich, the Russian Londoner who incidentally looks to be connected with money laundering schemes with the Rothchilds, you know the true masterminds of all of this? Whatever. Where are the Rothchild's armies I might ask? But yeah, those peace talks with Roman didn't work out. Probably the entire meeting was just so Zelenski would have an excuse to get Roman off the hook.

Even if Zelenski announced he was going to hand over the country to Russia, he'd have too many rebels wanting to replace him, so the strategy is the long haul march. Russia knows that any money, arms and hardware will eventually end up in their hands, and in the meantime, they get a training ground for their troops, and a narrative that they are the victims of Western controlled Ukraine. If the west was really after Ukraine and Russia, don't you think they would have stepped in by now?

You said that the elites don't want war, and I would agree that the majority of them do not. They want money. And they will do anything for money, even if it means being a traitor to their own country. There are many "elites," or government and military guys, who really do see the Russian and Chinese threat, and are preaching a defensive or offensive posture, but who ever is in charge of the US military at the moment has let our side slide into mediocrity, not the attitude you would think so called "globalists" would have, who supposedly want to enforce their will all over the world.

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I found lots of combat footage, the problem is most of it is designed to make Ukraine look good and Russia bad. In other words, propaganda. This tells me that our perceptions are being managed. Why would they do that? That gets me asking what this is all leading to and what they are hiding from us. Perhaps we should all wonder.
For another perspective about the conflict involving the Donbas and the ethnic Russian population living in that region pre-2014 Ukrainian coup, you might want to follow Patrick Lancaster.

He is a US Naval Vet who has spent years covering the conflicts created by 'Western Intelligence' operations here & there across the planet. He has been living in the Donbas for eight years. He is currently covering the challenges faced by civilians in that region.

Viewers worry when he fails to post uptakes. He is on the Ukrainian "KILL" list along with Col. MacGreggor, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor , Scott Ritter, https://www.actvism.org/en/the-source/g ... tt-ritter/ , & a host (over 500) of other individuals considered a threat to the Ukrainian narrative.

Please doi not forget to research the long history of the Donbas, Crimea, the 2014 Coup, The Minsk Agreements, the Azov Battalion slaughter of ethnic Russians in the Donbas since 2014, the Pentagon funded & deployed bio-weapon research facilities immediately adjacent to the Russian border, etc....

Are ethnic Russians being kidnapped by the Russian military? Wagner soldiers mentioned in interviews with ethnic Russians.
I should add that ethnic Russians who have lived in the Donbas region are extremely wary of 'blaming' Ukrainian military. Young men, especially, who speak out against Ukrainian atrocities are sought out, tortured & killed. In these interviews I see guarded responses, and eyes from other 'refugees' watching closely the dialog shared. Hard to know sometimes who might be just another victim of the conflict or someone who might turn you over to the Ukrainian military as a Russian Separatist.
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buffalo_girl wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 2:51 pm
I found lots of combat footage, the problem is most of it is designed to make Ukraine look good and Russia bad. In other words, propaganda. This tells me that our perceptions are being managed. Why would they do that? That gets me asking what this is all leading to and what they are hiding from us. Perhaps we should all wonder.
For another perspective about the conflict involving the Donbas and the ethnic Russian population living in that region pre-2014 Ukrainian coup, you might want to follow Patrick Lancaster.

He is a US Naval Vet who has spent years covering the conflicts created by 'Western Intelligence' operations here & there across the planet. He has been living in the Donbas for eight years. He is currently covering the challenges faced by civilians in that region.

Viewers worry when he fails to post uptakes. He is on the Ukrainian "KILL" list along with Col. MacGreggor, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Macgregor , Scott Ritter, https://www.actvism.org/en/the-source/g ... tt-ritter/ , & a host (over 500) of other individuals considered a threat to the Ukrainian narrative.

Please doi not forget to research the long history of the Donbas, Crimea, the 2014 Coup, The Minsk Agreements, the Azov Battalion slaughter of ethnic Russians in the Donbas since 2014, the Pentagon funded & deployed bio-weapon research facilities immediately adjacent to the Russian border, etc....

Are ethnic Russians being kidnapped by the Russian military? Wagner soldiers mentioned in interviews with ethnic Russians.
The reason you don't see a lot of pro-Russian combat footage, is because reporters are not allowed on the Russian side, unless of course you are like this guy, and all you do is explain how Russia is good, and Ukraine is bad. Russia only allows their guys, who they control, to report.

Speaking of the Wagner group, here's some recent articles about a defector:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/fo ... 023-01-23/

https://news.sky.com/story/former-comma ... y-12801151

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HVDC wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 1:54 pm
spiritMan wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 10:29 am
Sarah wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 10:14 am
MikeMaillet wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 6:35 am

There are no political solutions to our pending destruction because the Prophets have seen our day and have told us the ending to the story; we will be swept off the promised land. The only solution is to "live the Gospel" wherein we take care of the poor and oppressed. One may spend a lot of time chasing rabbits down endless holes or following certain politicians or chasing the money or evaluating policies ... trying to understand what is going on in the world but there is absolutely nothing we can do to change the outcome unless we accept God's challenge as found in Isaiah chapter 1:

16) Wash yourselves clean:
remove your wicked deeds
from before my eyes;
cease to do evil.

17) Learn to do good: demand justice,
stand up for the oppressed;
plead the cause of the fatherless,
appeal on behalf of the widow.

18) Come now, let us put it to the test,
says Jehovah:
though your sins are as scarlet,
they can be made white as snow;
though they have reddened as crimson,
they may become white as wool.

19) If you are willing and obey,
you shall eat the good of the land.

20) But if you are unwilling and disobey,
you shall be eaten by the sword.
By his mouth Jehovah has spoken it.


It's beyond obvious that the government of Ukraine is corrupt to the very core and that this war will likely drag the whole world into another major conflict. The leaders of the USA are moral reprobates who have sold their souls whilst my Canadian leaders are fools and idiots. Most of our secular leaders display their allegiance to Satan when they flash around those Masonic signs. Even one of our beloved church Presidents can be seen doing the same thing when he shook hands with Dubya using the "Sure Sign of the Nail." Was not this the same President who exclaimed, "1, 2, 3 Let's Go Shopping" at the opening of a large glass and steel monument to consumerism?

What frustrates me is that I see what is happening and I am powerless to change it. As a people, we LDS have adopted the ways of Babylon and have become distracted by the shiny stuff this world produces. Our only hope is to be saved as individuals by sacrificing our shiny stuff so that others may eat and dwell in safety OR be one of those that recognize the call of the Servant (not RMN whom Renlund likes to think of as a latter-day Moses) and make the trek to Zion or the New Jerusalem.

I often shed tears when I look into the eyes of my innocent grand-children and begin to realize the horrors they will likely experience within the next few years. We have reached the fulness of times of the Gentiles and we have rejected the covenant that would have saved us in exchange for jobs that pay with money, cars, nice clothes, TVs, boats...

I pray for the citizens of Ukraine who are stuck in the middle of a manufactured war and I pray that I will become more charitable as conditions quickly worsen around the world. I pray that I will never back down or cower when defending correct principles and when testifying of Christ. I pray that I will be worthy to enter Zion.

Mike
but the Ukrainian government and NATO are all doing the bidding of the Kremlin, because of the entrenched infiltrators and compromised individuals the Kremlin has placed in Western institutions, especially in Ukraine. Putin needed a war and fake uprising to take Ukraine, just like he did in Georgia and other satellite states where his puppets are now ruling.
My goodness . . .2016 really did mess people up. Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.

Do the elites get together at summits? Yes.
Do the elites agree lockstep with each other? No.
What happens when elites do NOT agree with each other and have severe disagreements? Wars. Trade Wars. Sanctions. Etc.

The idea that Z or the West are having their strings pulled by Putin is absolute insanity.

What is really happening is that Western Elites are having huge disagreements with Eastern Elites.

Western Elites say "we are the rulers, we'll let you play in the game, but we get to say who plays and who doesn't."
Eastern Elites say "BS. It is true for a long, long time you set the stage and determined who plays and who doesn't. You are weaker now than before, we are stronger than before, we aren't going to play by the same rules as before".

SMH . . .elites do NOT WANT war. Wars are not good for the elites. Anyone who studies history knows that wars are very, very tricky things for the Elite. Many, many, many rulers have been overthrown b/c of a bad war. . . .ESPECIALLY in Russia.

The last Czar of Russia was overthrown b/c of a bad war.

The statement above is just lunacy.
The Bankster Elites are pushing for WWIII.

It is prescribed by their soothsayers.

And they follow their soothsayers.

War is very good for the Banksters.

It is how they eat their rivals.

There will be war.

When, where?

When, wherever the Rothschilds want it to be.

What we want doesn't matter.

Never has.

Mooooo.

Sir H

How will WW3 help the banksters?

Why are they all destroying their currencies?

If the plan is a global currency, who is going to enforce it after a world war?

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Re: War with Russia just went from "if" to "when" today

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Sarah wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 10:14 am
MikeMaillet wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 6:35 am
Sarah wrote: February 1st, 2023, 1:06 pm
spiritMan wrote: February 1st, 2023, 12:37 pm
"Would you rather be under the rule of a tyrant who promises to enforce laws against sexual deviancy or enforce their version of Christianity, or a constitutional republic that may allow bad behavior to exist and even flourish, but at least you have freedom in other areas of life?"

I'd rather live under the tyrant who enforces laws against sexual deviancy. At least I wouldn't have to worry about my 5 year old being indoctrinated into thinking he is a she and needs to cut off his privates. At least I wouldn't have to worry about that 5 year old interacting with a bunch of other deviant sicko adults.

The idea or concept that one can live in absolute "freedom" is bull@#$%. And you know it . . . and I'm actually very libertarian at heart.

Dude, MN just passed a law that allows "abortion" up to the minute of birth. 9 months and as long as the baby is in the mother's body it's not murder, outside the body and well that's murder . . .I guess . . .

What you do NOT seem to understand is that the illusion of "freedom" we had was due to a very unique period of time in history. A massive country with a FUNDAMENTAL Judeo-Christian basis of laws.

The "freedom" we had was always rooted in the basics of the 10 commandments. And now you are seeing the results of what happens to a country that has no basis in fundamental Judeo-Christian laws.

And if you don't think that they will ABSOLUTELY ram their perverted laws down everyone's throat first under the guise of "freedom" and then simply b/c they have the ability to do so-you've got another thing coming.

Wake up and smell the coffee . . . they use "freedom" to get the hooks in and then create laws to solidify their morality. They don't play by the same rules. You'll get your tyrant one way or another.
That's why the only way to preserve freedom and morality is to preach the gospel. Looking for a political savior is the last thing you want to do. Stick to the constitution, and yes, when the dollar crashes and we go boom, that's when we will need to stand behind the constitution, and seek the Lord's help to stop the armies of Putin and Xi.
There are no political solutions to our pending destruction because the Prophets have seen our day and have told us the ending to the story; we will be swept off the promised land. The only solution is to "live the Gospel" wherein we take care of the poor and oppressed. One may spend a lot of time chasing rabbits down endless holes or following certain politicians or chasing the money or evaluating policies ... trying to understand what is going on in the world but there is absolutely nothing we can do to change the outcome unless we accept God's challenge as found in Isaiah chapter 1:

16) Wash yourselves clean:
remove your wicked deeds
from before my eyes;
cease to do evil.

17) Learn to do good: demand justice,
stand up for the oppressed;
plead the cause of the fatherless,
appeal on behalf of the widow.

18) Come now, let us put it to the test,
says Jehovah:
though your sins are as scarlet,
they can be made white as snow;
though they have reddened as crimson,
they may become white as wool.

19) If you are willing and obey,
you shall eat the good of the land.

20) But if you are unwilling and disobey,
you shall be eaten by the sword.
By his mouth Jehovah has spoken it.


It's beyond obvious that the government of Ukraine is corrupt to the very core and that this war will likely drag the whole world into another major conflict. The leaders of the USA are moral reprobates who have sold their souls whilst my Canadian leaders are fools and idiots. Most of our secular leaders display their allegiance to Satan when they flash around those Masonic signs. Even one of our beloved church Presidents can be seen doing the same thing when he shook hands with Dubya using the "Sure Sign of the Nail." Was not this the same President who exclaimed, "1, 2, 3 Let's Go Shopping" at the opening of a large glass and steel monument to consumerism?

What frustrates me is that I see what is happening and I am powerless to change it. As a people, we LDS have adopted the ways of Babylon and have become distracted by the shiny stuff this world produces. Our only hope is to be saved as individuals by sacrificing our shiny stuff so that others may eat and dwell in safety OR be one of those that recognize the call of the Servant (not RMN whom Renlund likes to think of as a latter-day Moses) and make the trek to Zion or the New Jerusalem.

I often shed tears when I look into the eyes of my innocent grand-children and begin to realize the horrors they will likely experience within the next few years. We have reached the fulness of times of the Gentiles and we have rejected the covenant that would have saved us in exchange for jobs that pay with money, cars, nice clothes, TVs, boats...

I pray for the citizens of Ukraine who are stuck in the middle of a manufactured war and I pray that I will become more charitable as conditions quickly worsen around the world. I pray that I will never back down or cower when defending correct principles and when testifying of Christ. I pray that I will be worthy to enter Zion.

Mike
Agree with first part of your post - indeed, the most important thing is to live the gospel, give to poor, become like our Savior.

I also agree it is a manufactured war, but the Ukrainian government and NATO are all doing the bidding of the Kremlin, because of the entrenched infiltrators and compromised individuals the Kremlin has placed in Western institutions, especially in Ukraine. Putin needed a war and fake uprising to take Ukraine, just like he did in Georgia and other satellite states where his puppets are now ruling.

It is a false narrative put out by the long-running, Kremlin funded, truther movement (think Alex Jones and everyone after him who started talking about "globalists") to believe that Putin is defending himself against the imperialist West. The plan has always been to get the West to appear imperialist so the rest of the world would have an excuse to destroy America, Western governments and institutions, with their constitutional government and Christian roots and the freedom to live one's religion. Putin is a fake Christian who persecutes Christians in his own country.

If NATO was really intent on starting a war to bring in their Western "New World Order," you would see NATO countries doing the same things that Russia and China have been doing, - building up their militaries and nuclear arsenals, accumulating gold, putting away food and oil reserves for a time of war. But what we see instead is a decline in all these areas in the West, with a decades long plan in place to have compromised Western leaders hand over their countries to the Communist conspiracy of the East.
Yes, I agree with most of what you are saying. I guess I've reached the point, and maybe it's my age (65), where I've realized that all of these things are out of my control and that I understand the scriptures well enough to know the answer to the 5 Ws regarding our current time and situation. I have X hours of free time in my day and I have decided that it would be more profitable for me to read and study the Prophets rather than to study where the profits are going.

Also, I've been taking drumming lessons on and off for the past two years and I'm becoming rather serious about sounding good by playing with precise timing. I've discovered that it is impossible to play drums properly if not fully relaxed. Reading about current affairs stresses me out to no end whilst studying scriptures relaxes me. That's an easy one for me. Who would have thought that studying the scriptures would make me a better drummer - Baddam Psh! :-)

Please do not misunderstand me; I truly wish that I knew more about worldwide affairs and I do spend some time looking at the headlines and reading a few opinion pieces. It would definitely help me understand some of the types that are used by Isaiah if I spent more time studying these things. I've also committed myself to a Calculus refresher and some time to study some basic Physics.

All I know is how the story ends for Adam & Eve. Whether we climb the next rung on Jacob's ladder is up to us.

Mike

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Sarah wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 3:09 pm
HVDC wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 1:54 pm
spiritMan wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 10:29 am
Sarah wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 10:14 am
but the Ukrainian government and NATO are all doing the bidding of the Kremlin, because of the entrenched infiltrators and compromised individuals the Kremlin has placed in Western institutions, especially in Ukraine. Putin needed a war and fake uprising to take Ukraine, just like he did in Georgia and other satellite states where his puppets are now ruling.
My goodness . . .2016 really did mess people up. Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia.

Do the elites get together at summits? Yes.
Do the elites agree lockstep with each other? No.
What happens when elites do NOT agree with each other and have severe disagreements? Wars. Trade Wars. Sanctions. Etc.

The idea that Z or the West are having their strings pulled by Putin is absolute insanity.

What is really happening is that Western Elites are having huge disagreements with Eastern Elites.

Western Elites say "we are the rulers, we'll let you play in the game, but we get to say who plays and who doesn't."
Eastern Elites say "BS. It is true for a long, long time you set the stage and determined who plays and who doesn't. You are weaker now than before, we are stronger than before, we aren't going to play by the same rules as before".

SMH . . .elites do NOT WANT war. Wars are not good for the elites. Anyone who studies history knows that wars are very, very tricky things for the Elite. Many, many, many rulers have been overthrown b/c of a bad war. . . .ESPECIALLY in Russia.

The last Czar of Russia was overthrown b/c of a bad war.

The statement above is just lunacy.
The Bankster Elites are pushing for WWIII.

It is prescribed by their soothsayers.

And they follow their soothsayers.

War is very good for the Banksters.

It is how they eat their rivals.

There will be war.

When, where?

When, wherever the Rothschilds want it to be.

What we want doesn't matter.

Never has.

Mooooo.

Sir H

How will WW3 help the banksters?

Why are they all destroying their currencies?

If the plan is a global currency, who is going to enforce it after a world war?
By destroying the facade of any remaining sovereign nations; then such a deal they will have for us.

They don't own or use any currencies themselves; those fiat currencies belong to "us". They merely manage "our" money on their behalf, until it has no value.

Your neighbors and family members; using the very institutions they have raised up for that purpose.

Don't worry Sarah, they have it all planned out.

Sir H


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PeacefulProtests wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 7:10 pm I think Jimmy Dore says it best

https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/status/1 ... 7362726914
From your link;
Jimmy Dore wrote:"Your enemy is not China, your enemy is not Russia. Your enemy is the military industrial complex...... the war machine can't be stopped...... who's running this country? The war machine......... We provoked the proxy war, NATO provoked the proxy war in Ukraine.

Wow. I'm not saying he's right on everything, I'm not saying he's without sin or completely void of the soil of compromise but some of the most inspired things I've heard in our dying world have been on Tucker's show.


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HVDC wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 5:30 pm

By destroying the facade of any remaining sovereign nations; then such a deal they will have for us.

They don't own or use any currencies themselves; those fiat currencies belong to "us". They merely manage "our" money on their behalf, until it has no value.

Your neighbors and family members; using the very institutions they have raised up for that purpose.

Don't worry Sarah, they have it all planned out.

Sir H
Oh, so the Law of Consecration?

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tribrac wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 7:25 pm
HVDC wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 5:30 pm

By destroying the facade of any remaining sovereign nations; then such a deal they will have for us.

They don't own or use any currencies themselves; those fiat currencies belong to "us". They merely manage "our" money on their behalf, until it has no value.

Your neighbors and family members; using the very institutions they have raised up for that purpose.

Don't worry Sarah, they have it all planned out.

Sir H
Oh, so the Law of Consecration?
Bankster style.

Sir H

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PeacefulProtests wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 7:10 pm I think Jimmy Dore says it best

https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/status/1 ... 7362726914
We should all get our facts from comedians, but especially the Bernie loving, socialist kind.

Russia and China arguably have a larger MIC than we do here in America. Definitely together they do, and that is the plan, to start multiple wars and wear down our military.

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https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2014/07 ... ganda.html

All the anti-Ukraine stuff started with RT (news organization owned by Russian government) and all the truthers in alt-right media started repeating their lines.

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Sarah wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 9:13 pm https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2014/07 ... ganda.html

All the anti-Ukraine stuff started with RT (news organization owned by Russian government) and all the truthers in alt-right media started repeating their lines.
Big media doesn't do real reporting they do narratives. Having listened to many independent investigative journalists from different countries there is so much true information that will never be discussed openly by the "news".

The Russian propaganda isn't all false.

For instance the Nazi thing in Ukraine is actually a thing.

Ukraine is committing a lot of war crimes currently.

Ukraine did lots of evil acts in the separatist regions.

The US/EU/NATO purposefully was messing with Ukraine to piss off Russia, and also for access to Ukraine markets and resources.

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WW3 news for the day.

China spy balloon floats over western US. US doesn't shoot it down, because it might have injured people (ha,ha,ha).

China sends 34 aircraft and 9 warships near Taiwan. 20 of the aircraft crossed into Taiwan air space. (China testing Taiwan response strategies)

Russia plans big push ahead of tanks delivered by Germany and US.

US announced another 2 Billion arms package to Ukraine, with more long range weapons.

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tribrac wrote: February 3rd, 2023, 8:48 am WW3 news for the day.

China spy balloon floats over western US. US doesn't shoot it down, because it might have injured people (ha,ha,ha).
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ransomme wrote: February 3rd, 2023, 6:27 am
Sarah wrote: February 2nd, 2023, 9:13 pm https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2014/07 ... ganda.html

All the anti-Ukraine stuff started with RT (news organization owned by Russian government) and all the truthers in alt-right media started repeating their lines.
Big media doesn't do real reporting they do narratives. Having listened to many independent investigative journalists from different countries there is so much true information that will never be discussed openly by the "news".

The Russian propaganda isn't all false.

For instance the Nazi thing in Ukraine is actually a thing.

Ukraine is committing a lot of war crimes currently.

Ukraine did lots of evil acts in the separatist regions.

The US/EU/NATO purposefully was messing with Ukraine to piss off Russia, and also for access to Ukraine markets and resources.
The US/EU/NATO purposefully was messing with Ukraine to piss off Russia, and also for access to Ukraine markets and resources.
This is the Kremlin narrative put out there since 2014. Why does the West want to "piss off Russia?" What was preventing them from accessing markets in Ukraine?

Any provocative move made by Biden or White house is part of the circus show. They are Putin's controlled opposition, so Putin can claim Russia is a victim of NATO aggression. But there's a reason why most of Europe and Ukrainians are more afraid of Russia than they are of NATO or the US. Just look at Russia's track record since Putin has been in power. He's had his puppets in every former Soviet block country around him, and has invaded his neighbors with the pretense of "war on terror," or American coup or influence. The Kremlin is directing the show, and their puppets in the white house are playing their parts as the bad guys. Simply look at the results of all of American interference over there. It always leads to Russia gaining more control of land. If Biden is working for the elite mastermind who is trying to get the upper-hand on Putin and Xi, that mastermind is not very smart.

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