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Flights Across US Grounded After Systemwide FAA Outage
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"System Outage" or something more nefarious?

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Early Wednesday morning, the US Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) system that notifies pilots about hazards or any changes to airport facility services suffered an outage that might result in a nationwide grounding.

The FAA wrote in an advisory update that its NOTAM (Notice to Air Missions) system had "failed." The aviation agency provided no immediate estimate for when it would return online.
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The entire us airspace is shut down over a glitch? REALLY? What is happening and where?

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bbrown wrote: January 11th, 2023, 6:41 am The entire us airspace is shut down over a glitch? REALLY? What is happening and where?
Cascade failure? The techies here may know the phrase. It means when you have a small fault(s) and these create other ones down the line so they multiply and bring down the system.

A bit like how a single dislodged stone can cause a landslide or avalanche.

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Possibly. Hopefully it is just software, but I don’t even see the military aircraft that are usually flying overhead this time of morning here. That makes me think there’s more to this. US airspace is an enourmous area to just shut down.

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Flights are resuming.

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Niemand wrote: January 11th, 2023, 6:52 am
bbrown wrote: January 11th, 2023, 6:41 am The entire us airspace is shut down over a glitch? REALLY? What is happening and where?
Cascade failure? The techies here may know the phrase. It means when you have a small fault(s) and these create other ones down the line so they multiply and bring down the system.

A bit like how a single dislodged stone can cause a landslide or avalanche.
Yeah this terminology is correct. Fortunately they were able to identify the fault and fix it. But the ripple effect will result in various delays and cancellations over the course of today and perhaps the next couple of days.

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Subcomandante wrote: January 11th, 2023, 7:46 am
Niemand wrote: January 11th, 2023, 6:52 am
bbrown wrote: January 11th, 2023, 6:41 am The entire us airspace is shut down over a glitch? REALLY? What is happening and where?
Cascade failure? The techies here may know the phrase. It means when you have a small fault(s) and these create other ones down the line so they multiply and bring down the system.

A bit like how a single dislodged stone can cause a landslide or avalanche.
Yeah this terminology is correct. Fortunately they were able to identify the fault and fix it. But the ripple effect will result in various delays and cancellations over the course of today and perhaps the next couple of days.
I think the lockdown and constant Covid testing culture has created a lot of little nicks and issues in the system including the human element:

X can't make it because they've tested positive. Effort then goes into trying to get Y to go, if Y is available but Y has been in regular contact with X so thinks they have Covid too. They would recruit Z, but Z has either been kicked out of the job for not getting the shots, or took early retirement due to lockdowns, or is injured by the shots...

A forgot a lot of protocols, because she didn't do the job for so long. B forgot to fix a glitch in his computer programme. C may have issues as either a new recruit or a non-native English speaker.

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Niemand wrote: January 11th, 2023, 6:52 am Cascade failure? The techies here may know the phrase. It means when you have a small fault(s) and these create other ones down the line so they multiply and bring down the system.

A bit like how a single dislodged stone can cause a landslide or avalanche.
In the software industry, we call this "Tuesday." :D

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h_p wrote: January 11th, 2023, 8:04 am
Niemand wrote: January 11th, 2023, 6:52 am Cascade failure? The techies here may know the phrase. It means when you have a small fault(s) and these create other ones down the line so they multiply and bring down the system.

A bit like how a single dislodged stone can cause a landslide or avalanche.

In the software industry, we call this "Tuesday." :D
Captain Kirk knows all about Tuesdays.

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Military flights look active on the map today:
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Mayor Pete has an after action report coming soon...lol...buttigeig will get to the bottom of this ASAP......as soon as he finds a babysitter....

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Big oops 🙊

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Quick! Blame Trump!

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