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Just follow the success of Top Gun. Just avoid politics and divisive social issues. Appreciate the average person and average family that has the attention and money to offer that you are seeking. Let Superman be white and come from a small, rural American town. Let him live in an interesting "city of tomorrow" (it should NOT look like a modern city, Metropolis should have a unique look) and bring his small town and American pride sensibilities to it. Let Lois be white too. Let them be a happy, strong white couple. Let this character be who he is. Let him and Lois be inspirational. Honestly these new DC movies should be set in a fictional take on modern-ish society, rather than going for a direct adaptation on modern society like most superhero movies go for. Can I get ONE GOOD traditional Superman modern movie before the power goes out on modern society as the TIMES OF THE GENTILES ARE FULFILLED? Probably not, but I can wish.


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I know Snyder meant well and his movies had their moments. I feel bad for Cavill. He was jerked around but after Black Adam bombed featuring his big return cameo, I don't blame WB for simply wanting to move on.


They ruined Pokemon. They have poisoned the video game industry. They ruined superhero comics. They have ruined so many things from the 80s and 90s that have been revisited with newer adaptations. They ruined love. They ruined (MOST, not all) women. They have taken everything from me and millions of other single men my age (we aren't incels, a full-blown societal phenomenon of a rise in single, loner men isn't a failure from them, it's a symptom of modern society's low quality). People should consider that with the theme in scriptures of the meek inheriting the earth and those who exalt themselves becoming humbled. A substantial (and growing) amount of young and middle-aged men have little incentive (little to lose too) to care about or participate in modern society.

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Anonymous wrote: The counter-sexual revolution has begun.

Degeneracy has gone way way too far in this country. Whether you are male or female, chad or incel, old or young. Hook up and kink culture is ruining all our lives. Healthy relationships have been destroyed, hardly anybody is marriage material anymore, the vast majority of the country have become mindless degenerates propagandized by pornography and hollywood into thinking that unleashing casual sex was somehow gonna make our lives better.

Well we are done, we've had it with degeneracy. We are not gonna tolerate long term relationships and love being drowned out by the dominance of hookup culture anymore, we are not gonna tolerate a world where you are expected to just deal with the fact that your spouse can terminate your marriage at any moment for whatever reason they like [I disagree with this, either party should have the freedom to leave whenever, no one should be stuck or trapped in an unhappy relationship, a happy woman wouldn't want to end a marriage over nothing and a man shouldn't have right to keep an unhappy woman trapped and vice versa], we are not going to deal with sexuality which was meant to be an act of love and affection, being twisted into this heinous, disgusting act by the BDSM crowd, we are not going to tolerate casual, industrial sized infanticide anymore.

The choice is yours, are you gonna join the forces of good and help rid this country of evil or will you join the forces of evil and allow this debauchery to continue?
Unbridled sex led to a decline in healthy relationships and the concept of love. Who could have seen that coming? We are free to choose and the Lord is showing the consequences of our acts. Many wise men are waking up and seeing what modern life has wrought. The Lord is doing a strange act and refining many choice souls in the process.


I'm not asking for a lot or trying to be unrealistic. Could I just get a faithful, good Superman movie?
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I've been keeping my finger on the pulse of these events. Henry Cavill is a nerd through and through. He left Witcher because they keep deviating from the core material. I've never watched an episode so I don't know much about it. But Duane Johnson pulled strings to bring Cavill back to don the cape and his cameo in Black Adam triggered the possibility. As soon as he was welcomed back to continue with the DCEU, Gunn changed direction and is wiping the slate clean. Cavill is out and seems to have parted on good terms, but as luck would have it, he's a huge Warhammer 40k nerd and is now in the works for producing and starring in a new Warhammer 40K series with Amazon with full creative control if everything works out. I don't know anything about this franchise other than it' set in the distant future and is all about war and more war. I love Snyder's vision and thoroughly enjoyed Man of Steel, Wonder Woman (not the sequel), and the Snyder cut of Justice League as well as BvS Ultimate edition. These particular cuts are the best versions and I'll miss what Snyder would have done with their continuity. Not sure I care what Gunn does from here on out with DCEU, but time will tell.

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marc wrote: โ†‘December 23rd, 2022, 10:17 pm I love Snyder's vision and thoroughly enjoyed Man of Steel, Wonder Woman (not the sequel), and the Snyder cut of Justice League as well as BvS Ultimate edition. These particular cuts are the best versions and I'll miss what Snyder would have done with their continuity. Not sure I care what Gunn does from here on out with DCEU, but time will tell.
I respect this. Snyder had a vision. I don't think it was the most mainstream/crowd-pleasing approach, but he did have a clear artistic vision. I actually really liked his version of the Justice League movie. Broken up into parts, I have re-watched it. I enjoy Man of Steel, but obviously I feel there is a more color-filled, less dour approach to Superman. But I wouldn't disagree with anyone who feels Man of Steel (or any of Snyder's DC movies) are great. I just think they were divisive.

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I don't care, and I don't understand why a grown adult would watch such a pile of nonsense.

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The moment they ditched Henry Cavill - the best Superman you could ask for - it became obvious they had no interest in making it good.

The Gads don't want to make good movies. Good movies have soul in them (yes Robin, even good Super Hero movies! ๐Ÿ™‚). They are in the business of destroying soul not creating it.

Imo.

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I feel your frustrations. Bungie got super woke/political resulting in me uninstalling Destiny 2.

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I won't be watching it. I haven't enjoyed the Cavill take on the character. Christopher Reeve was always my Superman and has portrayed the character the best, despite the crappy effects. As someone said, "it's not about how you play Superman but how you play Clark Kent."

Reeve struck that balance for me. He portrays Kent not just as a bumbling hayseed, weak moron, or a truculent teenager, but as a humble country gentleman with morals and manners. Superman is supposed to have an innate goodness, despite his failings, which represents the best America has to offer and Kent is very much part of that, although he has to hide his physical strength unlike his alter ego. That is a moral lesson to men in real life... many of us do have physical strength and bulk, but we shouldn't be inclined to misuse it. We also have to have patience with people who are weaker than us physically, morally or spiritually sometimes. It is the only way they can improve and we can improve.

But for the most part I can't be doing with superheroes โ€“dimestore demigods.

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"They ruined Pokeman"? How could anything be worse than that first Pokeman movie? I drew the short straw when it came out and had to take my youngest to the theater to watch that piece of crap. I literally fell asleep. It was like a made-for-cable low-budget cartoon shown on a big screen.

My wife and I don't watch the super-whatever movies. Our kids watch them, but then some of them have Disney+, so there's that. They just seem so stupid, like reading comic books as an adult.

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Iโ€™m sure the new Super-They/Them movie will feather a one legged, transgender, African-American who is going through a crisis trying to understand why the patriarchy is keeping their news story from trending on Twitter talking about how Trump is misogynistic.

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NeveR wrote: โ†‘December 24th, 2022, 5:08 am The moment they ditched Henry Cavill - the best Superman you could ask for - it became obvious they had no interest in making it good.

The Gads don't want to make good movies. Good movies have soul in them (yes Robin, even good Super Hero movies! ๐Ÿ™‚). They are in the business of destroying soul not creating it.

Imo.
Nah... fairy tales for the masses.
The Gads don't mind what you watch, as long as you fritter away your life on some kind of meaningless entertainment.

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NeveR wrote: โ†‘December 24th, 2022, 5:08 am The moment they ditched Henry Cavill - the best Superman you could ask for - it became obvious they had no interest in making it good.
Nah, that's still Christopher Reeve who managed to be classy and well mannered without becoming a wet blanket. He struck the right balance.

Henry Cavill, slightly wooden in my view also acted like a grumpy teenager in the role.

But... he is one of the favourites for Bond just now and to take over from Daniel Craig. They could do worse in that department.

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Niemand wrote: โ†‘December 24th, 2022, 6:40 am I won't be watching it. I haven't enjoyed the Cavill take on the character. Christopher Reeve was always my Superman and has portrayed the character the best, despite the crappy effects. As someone said, "it's not about how you play Superman but how you play Clark Kent."

Reeve struck that balance for me. He portrays Kent not just as a bumbling hayseed, weak moron, or a truculent teenager, but as a humble country gentleman with morals and manners. Superman is supposed to have an innate goodness, despite his failings, which represents the best America has to offer and Kent is very much part of that, although he has to hide his physical strength unlike his alter ego. That is a moral lesson to men in real life... many of us do have physical strength and bulk, but we shouldn't be inclined to misuse it. We also have to have patience with people who are weaker than us physically, morally or spiritually sometimes. It is the only way they can improve and we can improve.

But for the most part I can't be doing with superheroes โ€“dimestore demigods.
Christopher Reeve was definitely the best one. I didn't realize how good he was until that scene in Lois' apartment, where he was about to tell Lois who he was. He took off his glasses, stood straighter, and lost the sort of snivel-y voice. The change was pretty dramatic. Only then did I appreciate what an excellent actor he was, portraying Superman and Clark Kent.

And the special effects were excellent for the time period in which the movies were made (except for young Clark racing a train. They should have done the 6 Million Dollar Man thing and slowed him down, not speeded him up. Cameras in those days couldn't handle it without making people look jerky). Cutting edge.
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BuriedTartaria wrote: โ†‘December 23rd, 2022, 9:56 pm Just follow the success of Top Gun. Just avoid politics and divisive social issues. Appreciate the average person and average family that has the attention and money to offer that you are seeking. Let Superman be white and come from a small, rural American town. Let him live in an interesting "city of tomorrow" (it should NOT look like a modern city, Metropolis should have a unique look) and bring his small town and American pride sensibilities to it. Let Lois be white too. Let them be a happy, strong white couple. Let this character be who he is. Let him and Lois be inspirational. Honestly these new DC movies should be set in a fictional take on modern-ish society, rather than going for a direct adaptation on modern society like most superhero movies go for. Can I get ONE GOOD traditional Superman modern movie before the power goes out on modern society as the TIMES OF THE GENTILES ARE FULFILLED? Probably not, but I can wish.
I wouldn't care if Superman was black or Hispanic or Chinese or . . . Ditto with Lois. But I'm with you about leaving politics out of it. And keeping his "Boy Scout" wholesomeness and honesty. (In quotes because BS isn't what it used to be.)

Superxe or some such nonsense would be a really stupid move.

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Silver Pie wrote: โ†‘December 24th, 2022, 2:50 pm
Niemand wrote: โ†‘December 24th, 2022, 6:40 am I won't be watching it. I haven't enjoyed the Cavill take on the character. Christopher Reeve was always my Superman and has portrayed the character the best, despite the crappy effects. As someone said, "it's not about how you play Superman but how you play Clark Kent."

Reeve struck that balance for me. He portrays Kent not just as a bumbling hayseed, weak moron, or a truculent teenager, but as a humble country gentleman with morals and manners. Superman is supposed to have an innate goodness, despite his failings, which represents the best America has to offer and Kent is very much part of that, although he has to hide his physical strength unlike his alter ego. That is a moral lesson to men in real life... many of us do have physical strength and bulk, but we shouldn't be inclined to misuse it. We also have to have patience with people who are weaker than us physically, morally or spiritually sometimes. It is the only way they can improve and we can improve.

But for the most part I can't be doing with superheroes โ€“dimestore demigods.
Christopher Reeve was definitely the best one. I didn't realize how good he was until that scene in Lois' apartment, where he was about to tell Lois who he was. He took off his glasses, stood straighter, and lost the sort of snivel-y voice. The change was pretty dramatic. Only then did I appreciate what an excellent actor he was, portraying Superman and Clark Kent.

And the special effects were excellent for the time period in which the movies were made (except for young Clark racing a train. They should have done the 6 Million Dollar Man thing and slowed him down, not speeded him up. Cameras in those days couldn't handle it without making people look jerky). Cutting edge.
That's a good point about slowing him down. They used to do that kind of thing a lot back in the day. I used to have a terrible Hong Kong film on VHS where the car chases were all sped up and it looked obvious.

Superman is basically Clark. Superman without Clark is potentially an arrogant monster, but one works hand in hand with the other and both knows what the other does. Two different characters but also one character at the same time. Superman should have some of the shyness Clark does and Clark should have some of the inner strength Superman does.

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Niemand wrote: โ†‘December 24th, 2022, 2:58 pmSuperman is basically Clark. Superman without Clark is potentially an arrogant monster, but one works hand in hand with the other and both knows what the other does. Two different characters but also one character at the same time.
Exactly.


Superman should have some of the shyness Clark does and Clark should have some of the inner strength Superman does.
That would definitely improve both characters.

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They will.

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darknesstolight wrote: โ†‘December 24th, 2022, 3:03 pm They will.

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That's pretty much guaranteed. ๐Ÿ˜‚

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The latest Indiana Jones film apparently makes Crystal Skull look a classic.

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Silver Pie wrote: โ†‘December 24th, 2022, 2:53 pm
BuriedTartaria wrote: โ†‘December 23rd, 2022, 9:56 pm Just follow the success of Top Gun. Just avoid politics and divisive social issues. Appreciate the average person and average family that has the attention and money to offer that you are seeking. Let Superman be white and come from a small, rural American town. Let him live in an interesting "city of tomorrow" (it should NOT look like a modern city, Metropolis should have a unique look) and bring his small town and American pride sensibilities to it. Let Lois be white too. Let them be a happy, strong white couple. Let this character be who he is. Let him and Lois be inspirational. Honestly these new DC movies should be set in a fictional take on modern-ish society, rather than going for a direct adaptation on modern society like most superhero movies go for. Can I get ONE GOOD traditional Superman modern movie before the power goes out on modern society as the TIMES OF THE GENTILES ARE FULFILLED? Probably not, but I can wish.
I wouldn't care if Superman was black or Hispanic or Chinese or . . . Ditto with Lois. But I'm with you about leaving politics out of it. And keeping his "Boy Scout" wholesomeness and honesty. (In quotes because BS isn't what it used to be.)

Superxe or some such nonsense would be a really stupid move.
To do it justice to the fans it needs to be cast in an alternate universe, otherwise, it is just casting people of color as a token character which is just going to piss off any die-hard fans. you can typically tell when they intentionally pick somebody for the color of their skin, instead of their acting skills (Cough**Rings of Power**Cough).

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anonymous91 wrote: โ†‘December 24th, 2022, 4:43 pm you can typically tell when they intentionally pick somebody for the color of their skin, instead of their acting skills (Cough**Rings of Power**Cough).
Thomas Sowell goes on about this. They basically choose black people by whether they suit their agendas not by merit. The irony being that much better black actors are passed over for the pets of patronising white producers.

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I have a hard time being entertained by movies anymore. My time has been better spent with people, or physically getting out somewhere.

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BigT wrote: โ†‘December 24th, 2022, 7:42 am "They ruined Pokeman"? How could anything be worse than that first Pokeman movie? I drew the short straw when it came out and had to take my youngest to the theater to watch that piece of crap. I literally fell asleep. It was like a made-for-cable low-budget cartoon shown on a big screen.

My wife and I don't watch the super-whatever movies. Our kids watch them, but then some of them have Disney+, so there's that. They just seem so stupid, like reading comic books as an adult.

Anyway...
I get it, I honestly do. I do need to spend less time (and I already have dialed it back immensely) carrying about Babylonian entertainment.
Niemand wrote: โ†‘December 24th, 2022, 6:40 am I won't be watching it. I haven't enjoyed the Cavill take on the character. Christopher Reeve was always my Superman and has portrayed the character the best, despite the crappy effects. As someone said, "it's not about how you play Superman but how you play Clark Kent."
I love Reeve's Superman and Clark as well!

NeveR wrote: โ†‘December 24th, 2022, 5:08 am The moment they ditched Henry Cavill - the best Superman you could ask for - it became obvious they had no interest in making it good.

The Gads don't want to make good movies. Good movies have soul in them (yes Robin, even good Super Hero movies! ๐Ÿ™‚). They are in the business of destroying soul not creating it.

Imo.
Cavill is a class act! He makes me want to be a better man and you it the nail on the head; modern entertainment lacks SOUL!!!!!

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anonymous91 wrote: โ†‘December 24th, 2022, 4:43 pm. . . otherwise, it is just casting people of color as a token character which is just going to piss off any die-hard fans. you can typically tell when they intentionally pick somebody for the color of their skin, instead of their acting skills (Cough**Rings of Power**Cough).
And then you're racist if you don't like bad acting - or don't like how the character was written even if the actor was good. ๐Ÿ™„ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿคช

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Silver Pie wrote: โ†‘December 25th, 2022, 1:52 pm
anonymous91 wrote: โ†‘December 24th, 2022, 4:43 pm. . . otherwise, it is just casting people of color as a token character which is just going to piss off any die-hard fans. you can typically tell when they intentionally pick somebody for the color of their skin, instead of their acting skills (Cough**Rings of Power**Cough).
And then you're racist if you don't like bad acting - or don't like how the character was written even if the actor was good. ๐Ÿ™„ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿคช
Lol. Exactly what the PC crowd wants us to think.

In all seriousness, I'm at the age where I no longer care if people want to throw labels on me the "jamming" won't work on me. Every day I feel a bit more determined to keep it real, like the guy in the video (Warning: there is a bit of language in this).

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anonymous91 wrote: โ†‘December 25th, 2022, 4:23 pmEvery day I feel a bit more determined to keep it real, like the guy in the video (Warning: there is a bit of language in this).
I watched that video soon after it happened. Good on that man for not backing down when talking to the fake woman.
Matt Walsh interviewed him in his documentary What is a Woman?



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