Pilot/Aerospace Engineer Realizes Earth is Flat

[Fred]

As a aviation professional, I can tell you that the maker of this video is lying about his professional experience.

The glorious thing about commercial aviation is when somebody makes a claim about their credentials, it’s very easy to fact check them.

The person who made this video declares himself to be Joshua Silva

So lets check the FAA Airman certification registry to see if there are any Joshua Silva’s that even resembles the experience this video maker claims to have.
https://amsrvs.registry.faa.gov/airmeninquiry/Main.aspx

• There are 2 Joshua Silva’s listed as a student pilot
• 2 listed as a drone pilot
• One listed as an aircraft mechanic
• And one Joshua taylor silva of Salt Lake City, who has been a single engine private pilot since 1998.

There is a Joshua Renee Silva of North Carolina, who received his commercial pilots license in June 2022.
• This Joshua is only certified as a second in command for a Cessna citation jet.

A Joshua Robert Silva, who received his commercial pilot license in August 23 2022
• This Joshua has a second-in-command type rating for midsize, private citation Jets and the Beechcraft premier RA-390
• The ratings for the citation jet are second-in-command privileges only. Which means he is not the captain of the aircraft.
• He was certificated as a flight instructor on Jan 26, 2022
• And the certifications for the 680 is subject to pilot-in-command limitations.
• At the 2:10 mark in the video, there is a pic of a man standing at the door of a Beechcraft Premier aircraft. Given that this Robert is certificated as a second in command on that aircraft we can assume that the video maker is Joshua Robert Silva.

However, the maker of this video claims to have spent time flying, turboprop aircraft, most likely king airs for nonprofits in northern California.

And he says “years” after his turboprop experience, he was flight instructing for “numerous flight schools”

So now we have years of experience he is claiming. But his certificates were not issued by the FAA until 2022, and he is only the second in command with less than a year of experience.

And then he claims to be teaching for flight schools that train for the airlines and the military. This is a little bit curious, because in order to train for airline operations, you have to be certificated in the Aircraft types you teach. It is impossible for somebody with less than one year of certificate experience to have the experience this person claims let alone do any kind of instructing for any military operations

The worst thing you can do an aviation is lie about your experience. Because all of the certificates all of the training you go through is a matter of public record on the FAA website.

Dont believe this stuff.

Furthermore, what he said was wrong anyway. I am not a commercial pilot, but I have flown a Cessna 150 as a student. Angle of attack has nothing to do with a globe or flat earth.

He never said that it did. He said: “angle of attack being the angle between an aircraft’s flight path and the relative wind...and the idea that the aircraft has to be slightly pitched up to remain airborne.”

He prefaced this with explaining that he had always taken for granted that the curvature of the earth was figured into the angle of attack but on further research could not find anything to substantiate that.

WRONG! Either tell the truth or stay home. He said the angle of attack was kept up to keep from falling off of a globe. Minute 3:30

[Pazooka]

Furthermore, what he said was wrong anyway. I am not a commercial pilot, but I have flown a Cessna 150 as a student. Angle of attack has nothing to do with a globe or flat earth.

Oh, the whole video is a treadmill of nonsense. I only got through the first few minutes when I became deeply suspicious of his claims of experience.

Is it a case of, if you can’t debate, discredit?

A liar discredits himself.

and there is no need to debate, this nonsense has been discredited since the dawn of maritime navigation. This is a case of extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

My point here was to call out the maker of the video for attempting to falsify his own standing as a means of getting the gullible to buy into him as a credible source.

I guess I can ask, just for my own edification.

• do you believe the moon exists? How does it exist, and what is its shape?

• Does mars exist? what is its shape?

• what about the sun?

• How did the flat earth form? how does gravity work? is gravity a thing at all?
o If gravity doesn’t exist. Which is a common flat earth claim, then what is the force that holds the sun together? If the mass of an object in space, does not create some sort of pool throughout its entire body, then what stops the sun and other objects in space from simply dissolving? What is the force that acts upon objects in space to capture them in orbit, such as earth's orbit around the sun. If earth itself does not have its own gravity, then why would any other object have gravity to keep anything in the entire universe in a state of motion and captive orbits?

• On a flat plain, what is the force that arbitrarily stops the sun's rays from illuminating the entire flat earth if there is no curvature to block and no rotation to create the day and night cycle?

• how does the weather pattern work? for example The reason we have different weather patterns, jet streams, deserts and prevailing winds is all because of the global atmospheric circulation caused by the rotation of the Earth and the amount of heat different parts of the globe receive. The sun is our main source of heat, and because of the tilt of the Earth, its curvature, our atmosphere, clouds and polar ice and snow, different parts of the world heat up differently. This sets up a big temperature difference between the poles and equator but our global circulation provides a natural air conditioning system to stop the equator from becoming hotter and hotter, and the poles becoming colder and colder.

• If the Earth is flat, and there is no curvature on the Earth for the differential heating of the Earth’s surface to create high and low pressures, due to seasonal heating and cooling for the weather patterns to push around the globe, how do weather patterns develop?.

Finally, one final question

The Antonov 225, the largest aircraft in the world, is 275 feet long.

a mile is 5280 feet.

you would have to line up 19 Antonov Aircraft to equal 1 mile. And about 36 of them would equal a 10,000 foot runway.

so the largest aircraft in the world represents 0.04% of a mile.

The earth is 25,000 miles in circumference.

So, if you were to divide the Earth up in 25,000 - 1 mile segments. The largest aircraft operation in the world would take up less than 0.04% of 1/25000 of the Earth.

So when we’re talking about scale, we are talking about the largest aircraft operation on the planet makes up less than a fractional percentage of the space in which it flies.

The scale is so massive in fact, that the curvature of the Earth really does not become a key factor, the aircraft does not have to adjust for the curvature of the Earth, because the scale is so massive and the aircraft is so small that straight and level really is straight and level.

if you were to shrink yourself down to 0.04% of your size now and you physical perception was 0.04% of 1/25000th of your environment and you were to stand on a basketball, do you really think you would notice its curvature?

You’re not addressing the OP and you start out by name-calling instead of dealing with the ideas being presented.

[Pazooka]

As a aviation professional, I can tell you that the maker of this video is lying about his professional experience.

The glorious thing about commercial aviation is when somebody makes a claim about their credentials, it’s very easy to fact check them.

The person who made this video declares himself to be Joshua Silva

So lets check the FAA Airman certification registry to see if there are any Joshua Silva’s that even resembles the experience this video maker claims to have.
https://amsrvs.registry.faa.gov/airmeninquiry/Main.aspx

• There are 2 Joshua Silva’s listed as a student pilot
• 2 listed as a drone pilot
• One listed as an aircraft mechanic
• And one Joshua taylor silva of Salt Lake City, who has been a single engine private pilot since 1998.

There is a Joshua Renee Silva of North Carolina, who received his commercial pilots license in June 2022.
• This Joshua is only certified as a second in command for a Cessna citation jet.

A Joshua Robert Silva, who received his commercial pilot license in August 23 2022
• This Joshua has a second-in-command type rating for midsize, private citation Jets and the Beechcraft premier RA-390
• The ratings for the citation jet are second-in-command privileges only. Which means he is not the captain of the aircraft.
• He was certificated as a flight instructor on Jan 26, 2022
• And the certifications for the 680 is subject to pilot-in-command limitations.
• At the 2:10 mark in the video, there is a pic of a man standing at the door of a Beechcraft Premier aircraft. Given that this Robert is certificated as a second in command on that aircraft we can assume that the video maker is Joshua Robert Silva.

However, the maker of this video claims to have spent time flying, turboprop aircraft, most likely king airs for nonprofits in northern California.

And he says “years” after his turboprop experience, he was flight instructing for “numerous flight schools”

So now we have years of experience he is claiming. But his certificates were not issued by the FAA until 2022, and he is only the second in command with less than a year of experience.

And then he claims to be teaching for flight schools that train for the airlines and the military. This is a little bit curious, because in order to train for airline operations, you have to be certificated in the Aircraft types you teach. It is impossible for somebody with less than one year of certificate experience to have the experience this person claims let alone do any kind of instructing for any military operations

The worst thing you can do an aviation is lie about your experience. Because all of the certificates all of the training you go through is a matter of public record on the FAA website.

Dont believe this stuff.

Furthermore, what he said was wrong anyway. I am not a commercial pilot, but I have flown a Cessna 150 as a student. Angle of attack has nothing to do with a globe or flat earth.

He never said that it did. He said: “angle of attack being the angle between an aircraft’s flight path and the relative wind...and the idea that the aircraft has to be slightly pitched up to remain airborne.”

He prefaced this with explaining that he had always taken for granted that the curvature of the earth was figured into the angle of attack but on further research could not find anything to substantiate that.

WRONG! Either tell the truth or stay home. He said the angle of attack was kept up to keep from falling off of a globe. Minute 3:30

”As far as falling around a globe, that assumes/I assumed in my mind would be an aircraft’s angle of attack but upon more study I found that not to be true - - the angle of attack being between the AC’s flight path and the relative wind, which is something that pilots are very familiar with, and it’s the idea that AC has to be slightly pitched up, essentially, to stay airborne - or a surface of that AC has to be pitched slightly to create a difference in air pressure to hold the AC aloft. And that is assumed (or was assumed at that time, by myself and the other pilots) to be the compensation one would make for falling around a globe while flying, period. But upon further research I found that this was not the case, and it was not even mentioned anywhere [in any of the flight material].”

[Allison]

A liar discredits himself.


Finally, one final question


if you were to shrink yourself down to 0.04% of your size now and you physical perception was 0.04% of 1/25000th of your environment and you were to stand on a basketball, do you really think you would notice its curvature?

This is why we distrust wide angle lens “proofs” of curvature, and ball believers who use such tactics to “prove” a globe.

Also, your questions are good, but you might have some reading to catch up on in the handful of other flat earth threads around here. .

[Fred]

Furthermore, what he said was wrong anyway. I am not a commercial pilot, but I have flown a Cessna 150 as a student. Angle of attack has nothing to do with a globe or flat earth.

He never said that it did. He said: “angle of attack being the angle between an aircraft’s flight path and the relative wind...and the idea that the aircraft has to be slightly pitched up to remain airborne.”

He prefaced this with explaining that he had always taken for granted that the curvature of the earth was figured into the angle of attack but on further research could not find anything to substantiate that.

WRONG! Either tell the truth or stay home. He said the angle of attack was kept up to keep from falling off of a globe. Minute 3:30

”As far as falling around a globe, that assumes/I assumed in my mind would be an aircraft’s angle of attack but upon more study I found that not to be true - - the angle of attack being between the AC’s flight path and the relative wind, which is something that pilots are very familiar with, and it’s the idea that AC has to be slightly pitched up, essentially, to stay airborne - or a surface of that AC has to be pitched slightly to create a difference in air pressure to hold the AC aloft. And that is assumed (or was assumed at that time, by myself and the other pilots) to be the compensation one would make for falling around a globe while flying, period. But upon further research I found that this was not the case, and it was not even mentioned anywhere [in any of the flight material].”

It was BS. He had based his prior assumptions on it. It was not true. And now he knew it. So why even bring it up? Because he is a fraud and wants us to believe a false narrative that is pure BS. It has no legitimate place in the story. In other words, tell the truth or stay home. He did neither.

[Allison]

Another pilot’s story:

[Pazooka]

He never said that it did. He said: “angle of attack being the angle between an aircraft’s flight path and the relative wind...and the idea that the aircraft has to be slightly pitched up to remain airborne.”

He prefaced this with explaining that he had always taken for granted that the curvature of the earth was figured into the angle of attack but on further research could not find anything to substantiate that.

WRONG! Either tell the truth or stay home. He said the angle of attack was kept up to keep from falling off of a globe. Minute 3:30

”As far as falling around a globe, that assumes/I assumed in my mind would be an aircraft’s angle of attack but upon more study I found that not to be true - - the angle of attack being between the AC’s flight path and the relative wind, which is something that pilots are very familiar with, and it’s the idea that AC has to be slightly pitched up, essentially, to stay airborne - or a surface of that AC has to be pitched slightly to create a difference in air pressure to hold the AC aloft. And that is assumed (or was assumed at that time, by myself and the other pilots) to be the compensation one would make for falling around a globe while flying, period. But upon further research I found that this was not the case, and it was not even mentioned anywhere [in any of the flight material].”

It was BS. He had based his prior assumptions on it. It was not true. And now he knew it. So why even bring it up? Because he is a fraud and wants us to believe a false narrative that is pure BS. It has no legitimate place in the story. In other words, tell the truth or stay home. He did neither.

Not sure I follow what you’re saying. You say that he had a mistaken understanding of how pilots calculate to account for both the Coriolis effect and for the curvature of the earth?

[JSmith]

Oh, the whole video is a treadmill of nonsense. I only got through the first few minutes when I became deeply suspicious of his claims of experience.

Is it a case of, if you can’t debate, discredit?

A liar discredits himself.

and there is no need to debate, this nonsense has been discredited since the dawn of maritime navigation. This is a case of extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

My point here was to call out the maker of the video for attempting to falsify his own standing as a means of getting the gullible to buy into him as a credible source.

I guess I can ask, just for my own edification.

• do you believe the moon exists? How does it exist, and what is its shape?

• Does mars exist? what is its shape?

• what about the sun?

• How did the flat earth form? how does gravity work? is gravity a thing at all?
o If gravity doesn’t exist. Which is a common flat earth claim, then what is the force that holds the sun together? If the mass of an object in space, does not create some sort of pool throughout its entire body, then what stops the sun and other objects in space from simply dissolving? What is the force that acts upon objects in space to capture them in orbit, such as earth's orbit around the sun. If earth itself does not have its own gravity, then why would any other object have gravity to keep anything in the entire universe in a state of motion and captive orbits?

• On a flat plain, what is the force that arbitrarily stops the sun's rays from illuminating the entire flat earth if there is no curvature to block and no rotation to create the day and night cycle?

• how does the weather pattern work? for example The reason we have different weather patterns, jet streams, deserts and prevailing winds is all because of the global atmospheric circulation caused by the rotation of the Earth and the amount of heat different parts of the globe receive. The sun is our main source of heat, and because of the tilt of the Earth, its curvature, our atmosphere, clouds and polar ice and snow, different parts of the world heat up differently. This sets up a big temperature difference between the poles and equator but our global circulation provides a natural air conditioning system to stop the equator from becoming hotter and hotter, and the poles becoming colder and colder.

• If the Earth is flat, and there is no curvature on the Earth for the differential heating of the Earth’s surface to create high and low pressures, due to seasonal heating and cooling for the weather patterns to push around the globe, how do weather patterns develop?.

Finally, one final question

The Antonov 225, the largest aircraft in the world, is 275 feet long.

a mile is 5280 feet.

you would have to line up 19 Antonov Aircraft to equal 1 mile. And about 36 of them would equal a 10,000 foot runway.

so the largest aircraft in the world represents 0.04% of a mile.

The earth is 25,000 miles in circumference.

So, if you were to divide the Earth up in 25,000 - 1 mile segments. The largest aircraft operation in the world would take up less than 0.04% of 1/25000 of the Earth.

So when we’re talking about scale, we are talking about the largest aircraft operation on the planet makes up less than a fractional percentage of the space in which it flies.

The scale is so massive in fact, that the curvature of the Earth really does not become a key factor, the aircraft does not have to adjust for the curvature of the Earth, because the scale is so massive and the aircraft is so small that straight and level really is straight and level.

if you were to shrink yourself down to 0.04% of your size now and you physical perception was 0.04% of 1/25000th of your environment and you were to stand on a basketball, do you really think you would notice its curvature?

You’re not addressing the OP and you start out by name-calling instead of dealing with the ideas being presented.

It's not name-calling. it's assessing the truthfulness of his claims by checking his actual experience in the public records against what he claims.

His claims are false. he lied.

[h_p]

Here's a 35-minute video demonstrating how an IRS (inertial reference system) in an actual airplane can detect its latitude, but not its longitude, based on the earth's rotation, as would be expected on a rotating globe earth.

So the IRS is engineered to factor it in, and will not even work if its told its at the wrong latitude when compared to what it's detecting. It can even detect whether it's north or south of the equator.

On a flat earth, none of this would be possible.

[BeNotDeceived]

Here's a 35-minute video demonstrating how an IRS (inertial reference system) in an actual airplane can detect its latitude, but not its longitude, based on the earth's rotation, as would be expected on a rotating globe earth.

So the IRS is engineered to factor it in, and will not even work if its told its at the wrong latitude when compared to what it's detecting. It can even detect whether it's north or south of the equator.

On a flat earth, none of this would be possible.

Roger that.

The INS I once worked did their final alignment to true north, by sensing the rotation of the earth.