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cab wrote: November 22nd, 2022, 6:22 am
logonbump wrote: November 21st, 2022, 7:06 am
ransomme wrote: November 21st, 2022, 5:46 am
logonbump wrote: November 21st, 2022, 4:28 am Almost certainly he was abused and a victim of the mind control cult, was trained and set up for this act. His LDS status only confirms it to me. I wonder what his proximity to a military base was?
Obviously not trained, and has no sense. There are many better plans and ways to target fish in a barrel like that, so I can't see how they are in their right mind.
Not trained like a gangster to get away with it, but empowered to pull of a hoax and take the fall as a patsy, you know?

Any evidence this is a hoax?
Not a hoax if the man acted alone. However, these types rarely act alone. These crimes are designed for a specific outcome and are not simply natural outgrowths of religion-motivated intolerance.
Sunain wrote: November 22nd, 2022, 5:22 am All this is going to do is make the church get even more cozy with LGBT+ people. It's almost like this was planned as there are 2 more senate votes left on the Gay Marriage Bill and opposition within the church and against Mitt Romney was increasing.

Now, with a bunch of gay people killed by a mormon, church members can't keep fighting to stop this bill because it's 'insensitive', 'bigoted' and a 'hate crime'. Nope, no conspiracy theories here, just convenient circumstances!

It's like higelian dialectic, because it demands a specific response at a news story.
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Lizzy60 wrote: November 21st, 2022, 7:13 pm The pro-gay marriage LDS are 100% blaming church teachings for the actions of this young man, whether or not he is currently active, because they blame the toxic things he learned in church and his home.
Has anyone seen r/mormon or r/exmormon recently? Reddit is having a Mormon meltdown over this story!

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logonbump wrote: November 22nd, 2022, 11:59 am
cab wrote: November 22nd, 2022, 6:22 am
logonbump wrote: November 21st, 2022, 7:06 am
ransomme wrote: November 21st, 2022, 5:46 am

Obviously not trained, and has no sense. There are many better plans and ways to target fish in a barrel like that, so I can't see how they are in their right mind.
Not trained like a gangster to get away with it, but empowered to pull of a hoax and take the fall as a patsy, you know?

Any evidence this is a hoax?
Not a hoax if the man acted alone. However, these types rarely act alone. These crimes are designed for a specific outcome and are not simply natural outgrowths of religion-motivated intolerance.
Sunain wrote: November 22nd, 2022, 5:22 am All this is going to do is make the church get even more cozy with LGBT+ people. It's almost like this was planned as there are 2 more senate votes left on the Gay Marriage Bill and opposition within the church and against Mitt Romney was increasing.

Now, with a bunch of gay people killed by a mormon, church members can't keep fighting to stop this bill because it's 'insensitive', 'bigoted' and a 'hate crime'. Nope, no conspiracy theories here, just convenient circumstances!

It's like higelian dialectic, because it demands a specific response at a news story.

Right. But a hoax and a false flag are two separate things.
If people died it wasn’t a hoax, but could still be a FF.

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Uh-oh narrative flip.

Suspect is inactive LDS, but also Non-binary.

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tribrac wrote: November 22nd, 2022, 9:16 pm Uh-oh narrative flip.

Suspect is inactive LDS, but also Non-binary.
Yep, not really a surprise. Per the Daily
Wire:

The 22-year-old suspect who allegedly killed five and wounded 17 others after opening fire inside a gay nightclub in Colorado last week identifies as non-binary and uses They/Them pronouns, according to court documents.

New York Times reporter Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs obtained a new court filing Tuesday night showing public defenders referring to their client as Mx.

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tribrac wrote: November 22nd, 2022, 9:16 pm Uh-oh narrative flip.

Suspect is inactive LDS, but also Non-binary.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum ... 291938/pg1
Thread: Breaking: Colorado shooter identifies as non-Binary

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Aaaaaand it's gone

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tribrac wrote: November 22nd, 2022, 9:16 pm Uh-oh narrative flip.

Suspect is inactive LDS, but also Non-binary.
You can hear the actual disappointment in CNN's voices. This should be the last time we hear about this one, I guess:
"You mean we can't use this to club conservatives over the head with anymore?"

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Don't worry, they will pivot from 'conservatives are violent' to 'conservative teachings make LGBTQ kids hurt themselves and others.'

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There is absolutely no documented history of Aldrich’s gender identity being non-binary or Aldrich’s preferred pronouns being they/them. What we do know about Anderson Lee Aldrich suggests that Aldrich identifies as a male, uses he/him pronouns, and is a vicious homophobe that uses the anti-gay slur “f*ggot” constantly.

Aldrich’s mother describes Aldrich as her son and describes Aldrich with he/him pronouns. So do Aldrich’s other relatives. So does Aldrich’s friends. So does Aldrich’s neighbors.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/1 ... o-know-him

I don't personally trust what this shooter, or any shooter says at all. It just seems he's claiming he his non-binary to get out of a hate crime.

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downaletter wrote: November 23rd, 2022, 1:38 pm
I don't personally trust what this shooter, or any shooter says at all. It just seems he's claiming he his non-binary to get out of a hate crime.
The preferred pronouns are not/guilty.

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Preferred predicates are “raised-in-a-highdemand-fundamentalist-religion with-high-empasis on works and shame and manworship.”

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Image

Here's our suspect. Totally non-binary....right.

His dad's interview today is also a bit insane. Too much meth.

https://youtu.be/0f6TXdNXcWk
Father: “I’m a Mormon. I’m a conservative Republican. We don’t do gay.”

Reporter: 'Well your son is accused of a mass shooting at a gay bar killing five people’

Father: ‘….w-w-well there’s no ‘scuse for that i’m just glad he’s not gay.’

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It's been reported that both parents have had mental health/drug issues and the dad did a stint in the porn business....soooo idk how the mormon republican who doesn't do gay has room to say anything. The parents divorced early on in the child's life and he was raised by maternal grandparents......There is alot going on behind the scenes of this mormon family I'd say....supposedly from what I read the non binary they/them prounoun user has been disturbed for some time now......these people are all nut Jobs...
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farmerchick wrote: November 24th, 2022, 4:09 pm It's been reported that that both parents have had mental health/drug issues and the dad did a stint in the porn business....soooo idk how the mormon republican who doesn't do gay has room to say anything. The parents divorced early on in the child's life and he was raised by maternal grandparents......There is alot going on behind the scenes of this mormon family I'd say....supposedly from what I read the non binary they/them prounoun user has been disturbed for some time now......these people are all nut Jobs...
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I see trouble coming.

His father said: "You know Mormons don't do gay. We don't do gay. There's no gays in the Mormon church. We don't do gay," Brink said.

When the media pair that up with the shooter, there is going to be a backlash that is unbelievable.

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farmerchick wrote: November 24th, 2022, 4:09 pm It's been reported that that both parents have had mental health/drug issues and the dad did a stint in the porn business....soooo idk how the mormon republican who doesn't do gay has room to say anything. The parents divorced early on in the child's life and he was raised by maternal grandparents......There is alot going on behind the scenes of this mormon family I'd say....supposedly from what I read the non binary they/them prounoun user has been disturbed for some time now......these people are all nut Jobs...
Yeah I don't want to minimize what the shooter did at all, but hell...if your parents are like that, it's no wonder he's mentally unwell.

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I also forgot to mention that the republican mormon "no gay here" dad was also in and out of jail..and was told by the mother that his son who he never saw was dead....then out of the blue the adult son calls up the dad to tell him he was alive and a few other things...lol......you can't make this stuff up...thats when the mormon republican "no gay here" dad knew his son was still alive......so there is that.....smh....what did these procreators think was going to happen with their offspring?......the whole mormon aspect of it is quite sketchy....but as we know the church casts a wide net.....looks like this guy was well fed and had alot of time to think about how he was going to ruin they/thems life.....almost nothing surprises me anymore...

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tribrac wrote: November 21st, 2022, 11:47 am If it is the same person, and he is LDS I have no idea what he ever heard in church that made him think this was anything other than grievous sin in God's eyes. OT says thou shalt not kill. NT says love your enemies. Nothing in the Book of Mormon supports aggressive violence.

Also, it shows how far we are down the road of culture warfare that immediately his culture preferences are discovered and published with the implication that his associations should also be punished.

I hope our country is able to back up from violence.
Keep hoping, but you better make alternate plans. Have I mentioned Wild Wisdom of Weeds by Katrina Blair? :lol:

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Thinker wrote: November 21st, 2022, 9:53 pm
tribrac wrote: November 21st, 2022, 11:47 am…. Nothing in the Book of Mormon supports aggressive violence.
What this guy did was horrifically wrong. It was also wrong having minors at the club.

Still… the B of M has too much aggressive violence especially to be encouraged “daily reading”…

*Whoever didn’t support Moroni’s “free government” was killed.” -Alma 46:35 & Alma 62:10
*Those who tried to flee were killed. Alma 62:25-26
*They killed +2,000 Lamanites AFTER the Lamanites “surrendered themselves prisoners of war.” -Alma 57:14


“John W. Welch has identified at least 15 major wars or conflicts that spanned the history of Book of Mormon peoples (see chart below).1 A fair portion of the book of Alma (Alma 2–3, 16, 24–25, 43–62) sometimes provides excruciating details concerning the wars between the Lamanites and Nephites. Unforgettable is the tragic downfall of the Nephites at the battle of Cumorah, which resulted in unparalleled death and carnage (Mormon 1–6).”
https://knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/ ... -of-mormon
There is no question that there is violence in the Book of Mormon. To say it has too much violence to be encouraged daily reading is interesting. The bedrock of our entire society is violence. It is the root influence which supports all the others. If a party in a dispute fails to achieve its objectives, it will likely turn to violence. The larger the party, the more capable of violence, and the more likely it is to turn to violence. I don't want to belabor the point, but most of our society is built on fear and threats and if other forms of threats go unheeded, it will ultimately end in the threat of violence.

I would not so lightly dismiss a book and say it's not readable because it talks about the foundations of large human societies, the very thing which subtly guides so many of our thoughts and actions. If you don't want to see the truth, you don't have to, but you'll be the poorer for it.

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