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I read in a few places that people claimed they lost God after being vaxxed. They claimed that they could no longer feel the spirit of the Holy Ghost.

I was baffled by this as I could not fathom losing the connection. I doubted that any medicine, good or evil, could take this gift from us.

I now understand to a degree. For seven days I was cut off. Many in our large office have the flu. When I began to feel the early signs, I took a dose of Dayquil... hoping to head it off. I also took my normal Oil of Oregano, Vitamin C, Zinc, Chopped raw Garlic...

I woke up the next morning and said my prayers. I can usually feel "something" be it a nudge to read a scripture to start my day, a good feeling, a hug of sorts...

The first day after taking, I attributed the void as perhaps brain fog from meds. Those go away completely the next day.... I didn't feel foggy. I simply felt no urge to pray. No desire to read scriptures. No need to seek my Father's grace. I felt empty spiritually.

I felt NOTHING for 7 days. No answers, no promptings, nothing. The sadness of the empty void was incredible, as if a part of me had been severed.

On day 8, I laid across the sofa and opened the Bible... mindlessly reading a handful of scriptures. Absorbing nothing, feeling nothing.

I opened Isaiah and read 18-20 chapters in random order. A verse caused me to pause and pray. I prayed simply, but in earnest for God to be with me. In the middle of praying, I also asked for "My Dear Mother" to grant me wisdom, that I might once again have the spirit of the Holy Ghost. In Jesus name amen.

I have never prayed to her before, and I am not certain why I was prompted. As awkward as it sounds, I knew it was needed.

I can attest to the immediate love that I felt from above. The joy brought tears of joy to my eyes.

I was prompted to read and study Isaiah chapter 6. I fasted the entire day and asked for understanding, for guidance, for strength.

I have learned so much in a short period. God is absolute. I am weak, but he will lift me up. Evil is all around and will not cede. Do not give an inch...

I have much work to do. We all have much to do.... Serve with all your heart mind and soul.

I now understand what Joseph Smith meant when he said, "'Brethren, if I were to tell you all I know of the kingdom of God, I do know that you would rise up and kill me."

There is knowledge that will cause good people to murder in rage, as the TRUTH is too much for most to allow to come to pass without their attempts to bury it.

I also know that I was cut off from God because I trusted in the medicines of man rather than asking to be healed. A very humbling reminder.

My love for each of you. I owe all of you so much for encouraging me to question, to ponder, and to pray.

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Have you ever prayed and listened to the answer? Rhetorical question, as I know in my heart that you do listen.

A recent prayer was answered almost immediately, and the gentle chastisement reminds me to think about my prayers

"Why do you concern yourself with that which holds no consequence?"

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Momma J wrote: November 22nd, 2022, 6:12 am I read in a few places that people claimed they lost God after being vaxxed. They claimed that they could no longer feel the spirit of the Holy Ghost.

I was baffled by this as I could not fathom losing the connection. I doubted that any medicine, good or evil, could take this gift from us.
Here is a video of Bill Gates presenting to the CIA in 2005, information about a vaccine to remove the "God Gene."
https://rumble.com/vq7608-project-fun-v ... 41320.html

It is real, and it is done on purpose. I am certain, after reading accounts like you read, that is what they have done.

Wouldn't God warn us of such a thing?
He did! In Revelation 13:16-18, 18:23-24, 19:20, 20:4

Rev 13
16 Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. 18 This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666. <-- 666 is the Actual Patent Number for the Pfizer Vaccine

Rev 19
20 And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image.

Rev 20
4 Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

Rev 18
23 And the light of a lamp will shine in you no more, and the voice of bridegroom and bride will be heard in you no more, for your merchants were the great ones of the earth, and all nations were deceived by your sorcery. <-- From Hebrew "pharmakeia" or medicine
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all who have been slain on earth.” <-- How many Saints died, including the members who had the gift of prophecy, because they followed the command of Pres Nelson?

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I know most were blinded to these verses, because we believed it had to be administered in the hand or forehead. But, is that true?

God teaches the true meaning of a mark in the forehead or the hand in Deuteronomy 6:8 and 11:18

11:18 You shall therefore lay up these words of mine in your heart and in your soul, and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.
6:4-8 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. 5 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. 6 And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.

The mark on the forehead represents your thoughts, while the mark on the hand represents your actions. This is verified by the whole of both chapters 6 and 11, but I will include a few particularly relevant verses:

11 “You shall therefore love the Lord your God and keep his charge, his statutes, his rules, and his commandments always.
13 “And if you will indeed obey my commandments that I command you today, to love the Lord your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul, 14 he will give the rain for your land in its season, the early rain and the later rain, that you may gather in your grain and your wine and your oil. 15 And he will give grass in your fields for your livestock, and you shall eat and be full. 16 Take care lest your heart be deceived, and you turn aside and serve other gods and worship them; 17 then the anger of the Lord will be kindled against you, and he will shut up the heavens, so that there will be no rain, and the land will yield no fruit, and you will perish quickly off the good land that the Lord is giving you.

18 “You shall therefore lay up these words of mine in your heart and in your soul, and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. 19 You shall teach them to your children, talking of them when you are sitting in your house, and when you are walking by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. 20 You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates, 21 that your days and the days of your children may be multiplied in the land that the Lord swore to your fathers to give them, as long as the heavens are above the earth. 22 For if you will be careful to do all this commandment that I command you to do, loving the Lord your God, walking in all his ways, and holding fast to him, 23 then the Lord will drive out all these nations before you, and you will dispossess nations greater and mightier than you. 24 Every place on which the sole of your foot treads shall be yours. Your territory shall be from the wilderness to the Lebanon and from the River, the river Euphrates, to the western sea. 25 No one shall be able to stand against you. The Lord your God will lay the fear of you and the dread of you on all the land that you shall tread, as he promised you.

26 “See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse: 27 the blessing, if you obey the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you today, 28 and the curse, if you do not obey the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside from the way that I am commanding you today, to go after other gods that you have not known.



Now, consider the past three years from God's perspective. Did He not warn every single Christian that there would be a time, when every nation of the earth would rise, and do something, in unison, to every person willing to come and partake something into their body. The revelation is described it as "sorcery." Understanding, that God considers your faith in Him, as being bound on your hand and your forehead, does He not consider your faith in something else, a mark on your hand and forehead that you are against Him?
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Do vaccines and modern medicine--- as well as other chemicals--- calcify our pineal glands?

What is the pineal gland in the middle of our brains? Some say it is our "third eye", or the physical part of our bodies that allows our souls (body & spirit combined) to receive revelation.

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They are manipulating "consent" - tricking people with something that scalps souls. The war in heaven wasn't about the opportunity to tempt people with porn or stealing, it was about irreversibly converting and gathering souls to satan's kingdom, however that can be accomplished. I don't believe he backed off on that idea since then... still trying to steal souls. In this case, the game is to manipulate people to offer up their soul (or their kids who are always victims of parents bad choices and can be offered over) - by trusting in something that came from darkness, but appeared as a "covid angel of light". We KNOW we can be TRICKED into following satan... that's what Adam and Eve did that made them fall.

So that's how I believe they are causing the spirit to be removed from people - manipulating us into consenting to it, because they made us "trust the doctor" "trust the science" "trust the medicine" "trust the leader in the $12,000 suit worth gadjillions and lying about it who used to be a doctor telling you to trust the Lord who said trust the doctors and the science and the medicine...", and then they put soul scalping ingredients in the "medicine" people volunteer to take. They haven't broken any laws - earthly OR Heavenly, if they get us to CONSENT and hand over our souls.

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FoxMammaWisdom wrote: November 25th, 2022, 10:52 am ...In this case, the game is to manipulate people to offer up their soul (or their kids who are always victims of parents bad choices and can be offered over) - by trusting in something that came from darkness, but appeared as a "covid angel of light". We KNOW we can be TRICKED into following satan... that's what Adam and Eve did that made them fall. ...
Great analogy 👍

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"The soul will be made non-existent with the aid of a drug. Taking a ‘sound point of view,’ people will invent a vaccine to influence the organism as early as possible, preferably as soon as it is born, so that this human body never even gets the idea that there is a soul and spirit."
Rudolph Steiner

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Many people have been vaccinated and have had no effect on their ability to feel the Spirit. How is this explained, under the theories in this thread? Given a Restoration understanding of pre-existence, earth life, and the hereafter, how could our spirits be separated from our bodies through removing a gene?

The pineal gland as the "third eye" or way that the spirit interfaces with the body has been discussed in conspiracy theories about secret societies for ages. It sounds like nonsense to me. Our spirits don't just have one "outlet" to our bodies, which, if "calcified," cuts the two asunder.

The reality is that some people have bouts of depression, or bouts of "meh" or "blah." I think it's part of mortality for some, regardless of vaccines. The OP reported feeling this after illness. Certainly it can take the body some time to feel like itself again after being sick.

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Momma J wrote: November 22nd, 2022, 6:12 am I read in a few places that people claimed they lost God after being vaxxed. They claimed that they could no longer feel the spirit of the Holy Ghost.

I was baffled by this as I could not fathom losing the connection. I doubted that any medicine, good or evil, could take this gift from us.

I now understand to a degree…

A verse caused me to pause and pray. I prayed simply, but in earnest for God to be with me. In the middle of praying, I also asked for "My Dear Mother" to grant me wisdom, that I might once again have the spirit of the Holy Ghost. In Jesus name amen.

I have never prayed to her before, and I am not certain why I was prompted. As awkward as it sounds, I knew it was needed.

I can attest to the immediate love that I felt from above. The joy brought tears of joy to my eyes.

I was prompted to read and study Isaiah chapter 6. I fasted the entire day and asked for understanding, for guidance, for strength.

I have learned so much in a short period. God is absolute. I am weak, but he will lift me up. Evil is all around and will not cede. Do not give an inch...

I have much work to do. We all have much to do.... Serve with all your heart mind and soul.

I now understand what Joseph Smith meant when he said, "'Brethren, if I were to tell you all I know of the kingdom of God, I do know that you would rise up and kill me."

There is knowledge that will cause good people to murder in rage, as the TRUTH is too much for most to allow to come to pass without their attempts to bury it.

I also know that I was cut off from God because I trusted in the medicines of man rather than asking to be healed. A very humbling reminder.

My love for each of you. I owe all of you so much for encouraging me to question, to ponder, and to pray.
Beautiful! Thanks for sharing this so we can strengthen our faith too.

I have learned lately more than ever, that I cannot trust in people - not family, nor friends, & of course not political & religious leaders or media. God is the only one completely trustworthy.

Truth can be so hard to take. So painful to have what you thought was real, shattered. Betrayal from others - especially family or others I trusted - is heart-breaking. And betrayal of myself is even more challenging. I was so focused on trying to get loved ones to see truth - when it availed nothing. I realize I need to focus on my own issues with various truths. (Paraphrasing: ) “Your maturity depends on the types of truths you can handle.” As you mentioned, evil is pervasive & we need to be vigilant - to strengthen ourselves enough to both face & deal with truth while maintaining faith in GOoD.

I’ve told of a spiritual prompting before… that “the vaccine is 1 of the poisons.” As InfoWarrior shared in that clip, various things can affect the pineal gland. I’ve seen some drastic proof that anti-depressants do indeed have side effects of lack of empathy, among other spirit-numbing consequences.

I love how you prayed & felt love from Heavenly Mother. I do too. There’s still so much I have yet to learn. It’s probably like a Mr. & Mrs. God, interconnected YinYang thing, yet how I resonate may be specific aspects of divinity at a time. We are in a spiritual battle. I see how active faith in Heavenly Mother will help in this battle - like defending children killed in abortion, reasonable responses to extreme feminism, PSY OPS & homo emotional reasoning, & the unique gift women have in mentally multitasking & seeing the big picture.

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Momma J wrote: November 22nd, 2022, 6:12 am I read in a few places that people claimed they lost God after being vaxxed. They claimed that they could no longer feel the spirit of the Holy Ghost.
Rudolf Steiner (someone whose teachings I have much respect for) predicted 100 years ago that this would happen (specifically with a vaccine).

"...the spirits of darkness are going to inspire their human hosts, in whom they will be dwelling, to find a vaccine that will drive all inclination towards spirituality out of people's souls.."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gCj9CgScO0

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Momma J wrote: November 22nd, 2022, 6:12 am I read in a few places that people claimed they lost God after being vaxxed. They claimed that they could no longer feel the spirit of the Holy Ghost.

I was baffled by this as I could not fathom losing the connection. I doubted that any medicine, good or evil, could take this gift from us.
A lot of people that are on antidepressants are experiencing the same thing. They say it takes away the highs and the lows, making them essentially a zombie.

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Joan7 wrote: November 25th, 2022, 10:25 am ...
Here is a video of Bill Gates presenting to the CIA in 2005, information about a vaccine to remove the "God Gene."
https://rumble.com/vq7608-project-fun-v ... 41320.html

It is real, and it is done on purpose. I am certain, after reading accounts like you read, that is what they have done.
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That video of Bill Gates says it all.

It seems to me like spirituality is pretty much dead at church nowadays, since everyone got vaxxed, especially the leaders. We talk the talk, but it's empty.

And the church gave Gates' vaxx org millions of dollars after he stated his mission was to vaccinate spirituality away for good.

I don't understand how a vaxx can have a total effect on an existing person's DNA, but I can image how it can have a geometric effect through reproduction. In any case, it seems people's sensitivity has been reduced.

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Rubicon wrote: November 25th, 2022, 11:48 am ...

The pineal gland as the "third eye" or way that the spirit interfaces with the body has been discussed in conspiracy theories about secret societies for ages. It sounds like nonsense to me. Our spirits don't just have one "outlet" to our bodies, which, if "calcified," cuts the two asunder.

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There have been so many things in my life that at one time I mocked - sometimes openly and sometimes just within myself - that I later came to understand and realize that those that thought those "crazy ideas" were actually far, far above me in understanding. It has taught me some humility and I am slow to label as "conspiracy theories" or other forms of ridicule. Your idea above has just enough correct that it actually creates a hindrance to understanding the full truth.

Suffice it to say, as God stated that there were no commandments that were temporal only, that all things were spiritual - that is close to the point here. it is not that there is just one outlet to the spiritual, (that is one of the points you are correct about) but then you make assumptions based on that correct point that are incorrect. This isn't criticism of you, we ALL do this, we correctlly grasp bits and pieces and then make intuitive leaps that are sometime wrong, sometimes right, and almost always a mixture of right and wrong.

Do not be dismissive about the ideas abouut the pineal gland. You would do well to study this out, realizing there is much truth and much falsehood about it.

Medicines and drugs have very strong connections to spiritual access. Some hinder, and some enhance. Even the enhancers I do not think it is appropriate to recommend. There are proper ways to become more sensitive to the spirit and inappropriate ways, and more often than not, taking the easy path will cause more harm than good. If you want to be able to bear heavy burdens, it is best to build the muscle with honest hard work rather than various performance enhancers such as steroids, blood doping, etc. Spiritual strength is the same. But there are times that the easy method may become necessary. Physically, steroids have a proper medical use that can help save your life.

Similarly, certain drugs may assist someone with opening their spiritual eyes. I have never partaken it but there is some evidence that Ayahuasca, for example, has been helpful with people that have a terminal illness that are fearful of passing...anecdotally there are many examples of people that become at peace regarding passing away after having a single Ayahuasca "experience". They don't develop a desire to use Ayahuasca repeatedly, so it isn't a concern about addiction. My understanding that physically it is actually pretty unpleasant. But they see things on the other side of the veil (I suppose) that helps them understand that death is not the big bad that many of us make it.

To be clear, there are better ways over a lifetime to come to a place of peace regarding one's own death. But there can be proper times, places, and situations for things that we might usually consider wrong.

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Rubicon wrote: November 25th, 2022, 11:48 am Many people have been vaccinated and have had no effect on their ability to feel the Spirit. How is this explained, under the theories in this thread?
How many received the placebo or a weak dose and how many received the full dose of the vax? Something to ponder when determining why all are not affected.

Rubicon wrote: November 25th, 2022, 11:48 am The reality is that some people have bouts of depression, or bouts of "meh" or "blah." I think it's part of mortality for some, regardless of vaccines. The OP reported feeling this after illness. Certainly it can take the body some time to feel like itself again after being sick.
I have been sick off and on in my life. Even when running extremely high fever earlier this year, I felt the spirit of the Holy Ghost. It did not diminish from me. This is the only time I have felt the void since I have devoted myself to serving our Lord and Savior. I have had bouts of depression while learning to deal with my husband's Parkinson's. I did not lose the Grace of God. I simply bent my knees and prayed. (I cannot speak for others who are/have dealt with depression)

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Rubicon wrote: November 25th, 2022, 11:48 am Many people have been vaccinated and have had no effect on their ability to feel the Spirit. How is this explained, under the theories in this thread? Given a Restoration understanding of pre-existence, earth life, and the hereafter, how could our spirits be separated from our bodies through removing a gene?

The pineal gland as the "third eye" or way that the spirit interfaces with the body has been discussed in conspiracy theories about secret societies for ages. It sounds like nonsense to me. Our spirits don't just have one "outlet" to our bodies, which, if "calcified," cuts the two asunder.

The reality is that some people have bouts of depression, or bouts of "meh" or "blah." I think it's part of mortality for some, regardless of vaccines. The OP reported feeling this after illness. Certainly it can take the body some time to feel like itself again after being sick.

I think the idea is that the person becomes unaware that they have a spirit. It is still there, of course. It's just outside of their scope of awareness.

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