Utah land for sale?

[tmac]

It’s amazing the extent to which the Marxist socialistic agenda is taking over this country, including right here on LDSFF.

[Joan7]

The Federal Government is not your friend. Their intentions are not good. To have them own such large percentages of the Western states is going to be very bad for all of us. Agenda 2030 involves driving people from their homes into huge cities. Farmers are cancelled. Ranchers are cancelled. Entering into these newly restricted lands, will be for the elite only. It is already happening, as with saw in Oregon at Malheur Wildlife Refuge. I have read so many stories of people who have property in remote areas, having a part of the road taken over by the Feds, then they cannot get out or in. It is a gigantic mess. It is that way on purpose.
The States absolutely must take control of the lands in their territory, just for self preservation. The people have the right and authority to have a voice in how those recovered lands are used. It is time for these things. Or all of us are going to be very sorry.

[creator]

At least let it be State owned rather than Federally owned.

[harakim]

At least let it be State owned rather than Federally owned.

I just think they would immediately sell it to relatives, church-designated recipients and land developers who would all hoard and/or ruin it.

[FoxMammaWisdom]

As a hunter I think this is bad, I would like it to remain in in the federal gov't's hands.

As someone who believes in the sacred nature of animals and abhors hunting I believe that hunting should be banned on public land. I also believe that if you choose to hunt you should be required to kill yourself if you aren't successful in your hunt. Come home empty handed? Save the last round for yourself.

So you probably haven't visited the Church's $25,000 a ticket hunting preserve for the elites where they don't hunt to feed their families like we should if we want non poison or meat not laced with human leftovers, or when we want to take spiritual responsibility for the sacred sacrifice the animal kingdom gave to sustain our families life (which is also pretty damn sacred IMHO), or when we disagree with meat farm and factory practices, but they sport murder animals for "fun", or exotic trophies... ya know, the one run by the Church missionaries to keep overhead down, and secret hunting parties, secret?

[Vision]

At least let it be State owned rather than Federally owned.

I just think they would immediately sell it to relatives, church-designated recipients and land developers who would all hoard and/or ruin it.

That's exactly what would happen with the most desirable acreage sold first.

[Joan7]

At least let it be State owned rather than Federally owned.

I just think they would immediately sell it to relatives, church-designated recipients and land developers who would all hoard and/or ruin it.

It is better to have the bad guys that are local. Local citizens are easier to be held to account, like they did in the Battle of Athens. viewtopic.php?p=1319654&hilit=battle+of+athens#p1319654

[tmac]

At least let it be State owned rather than Federally owned.

I just think they would immediately sell it to relatives, church-designated recipients and land developers who would all hoard and/or ruin it.

That's exactly what would happen with the most desirable acreage sold first.

That is essentially what the Federal Government has already done with national parks, monuments and wilderness areas. They have already taken much of the most desirable acreage and set it aside for the elites, with increasingly limited access by anyone else. Whether its one tyrant 2000 miles away, or 2000 tyrants 100 miles away, it is no secret that tyrants take similar paths, and that is what has already been going on for over 100 years now with the federal government.

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[Fred]

The map appears to consider Native Reservations as Federally owned.

Even so, western states are barely considered private.

We know that the Bureau of Land Management is purely satanic, having zero benefit to mankind whatsoever. Ammon Bundy made sure that they know it, too.

What we really need is a 90% reduction in government employees.

[mudflap]

The map appears to consider Native Reservations as Federally owned.

Even so, western states are barely considered private.

We know that the Bureau of Land Management is purely satanic, having zero benefit to mankind whatsoever. Ammon Bundy made sure that they know it, too.

What we really need is a 90% reduction in government employees.

amen to that.

I will say - I do miss BLM land. Here in AL, all the land is owned by someone, and there isn't really anywhere you can go and "just mess around". Kind of disappointing. It's all either hunting preserves, farmland, "Land trust" (non-profit "preservation" group), or TVA (power company) owned.

[Fred]

One thing that helps is larger land packages. People in the East are lucky if they own a quarter acre. The smallest package that can get a building permit, where I live is 10 acres. So I have my own wildlife preserve. My neighbors, too. When my daughter went to school, I generally had to wait a couple times for the deer to cross the road, in the winter, on the way to the bus stop.

Three years ago, I saw a moose. It was early morning and he had been drinking at the reservoir. Last year I got a picture of a mountain lion on the game camera at the begin of my driveway. I haven't seen the lion since the deer left for the spring/summer. Now it is just coyotes and rabbits.

[Shawn Henry]

As someone who believes in the sacred nature of animals and abhors hunting I believe that hunting should be banned on public land. I also believe that if you choose to hunt you should be required to kill yourself if you aren't successful in your hunt. Come home empty handed? Save the last round for yourself.

Well, you're just one Kool-Aid drinking fanatic, aren't you, I've never seen a more abhorrent and un-Christlike post on this forum.

[OurVoices]

Another ploy by the Mormon Mafia to acquire federal land so that they can then steal it for development. It's their MO.

[762X545]

As someone who believes in the sacred nature of animals and abhors hunting I believe that hunting should be banned on public land. I also believe that if you choose to hunt you should be required to kill yourself if you aren't successful in your hunt. Come home empty handed? Save the last round for yourself.

Well, you're just one Kool-Aid drinking fanatic, aren't you, I've never seen a more abhorrent and un-Christlike post on this forum.

Explain how it's Christlike to kill an animal when you don't need the meat? Don't tell me some b.s. story about.your family starving and that you need the meat. That's garbage. If you have a cell phone then you have enough money not to have to kill a defenseless animal. God put them here for our use. Not for a dentist with a 70k SUV to somehow try to heal his lack of testosterone by throwing on some 2k camo he bought at Cabelas and chartering a Cessna to take him into Alaska and murder an elk.

[Fred]

As someone who believes in the sacred nature of animals and abhors hunting I believe that hunting should be banned on public land. I also believe that if you choose to hunt you should be required to kill yourself if you aren't successful in your hunt. Come home empty handed? Save the last round for yourself.

Well, you're just one Kool-Aid drinking fanatic, aren't you, I've never seen a more abhorrent and un-Christlike post on this forum.

Why? If you fail to fulfill your desire to prove your manhood by shooting a deer which is harmlessly grazing 300 yards away with your 30.06 and ginormous scope then you should die. The deer can't defend itself. So be a real man. Raise the stakes. It takes very little skill to put a 7mm round in an animal at that distance. Make it more like war. You fail to kill your enemy, they find you and kill you. Coward.

I guess you don't eat steaks or lobster, either. The animals were placed here by God for our pleasure. Hunting them keeps their population in check. Like right now I need to kill a few coyotes. My neighbors are on it, also.

Have you ever swatted a fly? That poor thing that irritates the crap out of you by flying in your ears and up your nose.

Get a grip, dude.

[762X545]

As someone who believes in the sacred nature of animals and abhors hunting I believe that hunting should be banned on public land. I also believe that if you choose to hunt you should be required to kill yourself if you aren't successful in your hunt. Come home empty handed? Save the last round for yourself.

Well, you're just one Kool-Aid drinking fanatic, aren't you, I've never seen a more abhorrent and un-Christlike post on this forum.

Why? If you fail to fulfill your desire to prove your manhood by shooting a deer which is harmlessly grazing 300 yards away with your 30.06 and ginormous scope then you should die. The deer can't defend itself. So be a real man. Raise the stakes. It takes very little skill to put a 7mm round in an animal at that distance. Make it more like war. You fail to kill your enemy, they find you and kill you. Coward.

I guess you don't eat steaks or lobster, either. The animals were placed here by God for our pleasure. Hunting them keeps their population in check. Like right now I need to kill a few coyotes. My neighbors are on it, also.

Have you ever swatted a fly? That poor thing that irritates the crap out of you by flying in your ears and up your nose.

Get a grip, dude.

As a matter of fact I don't eat meat. The only reason you have to kill coyotes is because you have taken over their land. I will love to watch you squirm at the final judgement when you get to try to explain your blood lost for killing God's creations simply for your amusement.

[FoxMammaWisdom]

As someone who believes in the sacred nature of animals and abhors hunting I believe that hunting should be banned on public land. I also believe that if you choose to hunt you should be required to kill yourself if you aren't successful in your hunt. Come home empty handed? Save the last round for yourself.

Well, you're just one Kool-Aid drinking fanatic, aren't you, I've never seen a more abhorrent and un-Christlike post on this forum.

Why? If you fail to fulfill your desire to prove your manhood by shooting a deer which is harmlessly grazing 300 yards away with your 30.06 and ginormous scope then you should die. The deer can't defend itself. So be a real man. Raise the stakes. It takes very little skill to put a 7mm round in an animal at that distance. Make it more like war. You fail to kill your enemy, they find you and kill you. Coward.

You think you're not a coward going to the grocery store buying food you didn't have to kill yourself? Are you a woke vegan or something?

[762X545]

As someone who believes in the sacred nature of animals and abhors hunting I believe that hunting should be banned on public land. I also believe that if you choose to hunt you should be required to kill yourself if you aren't successful in your hunt. Come home empty handed? Save the last round for yourself.

Well, you're just one Kool-Aid drinking fanatic, aren't you, I've never seen a more abhorrent and un-Christlike post on this forum.

Why? If you fail to fulfill your desire to prove your manhood by shooting a deer which is harmlessly grazing 300 yards away with your 30.06 and ginormous scope then you should die. The deer can't defend itself. So be a real man. Raise the stakes. It takes very little skill to put a 7mm round in an animal at that distance. Make it more like war. You fail to kill your enemy, they find you and kill you. Coward.

You think you're not a coward going to the grocery store buying food you didn't have to kill yourself? Are you a woke vegan or something?

Strict vegetarian. I raise my own protein. I don't
kill innocent animals for sport or to prove how manly I am.

[truefreedom]

Well, you're just one Kool-Aid drinking fanatic, aren't you, I've never seen a more abhorrent and un-Christlike post on this forum.

Why? If you fail to fulfill your desire to prove your manhood by shooting a deer which is harmlessly grazing 300 yards away with your 30.06 and ginormous scope then you should die. The deer can't defend itself. So be a real man. Raise the stakes. It takes very little skill to put a 7mm round in an animal at that distance. Make it more like war. You fail to kill your enemy, they find you and kill you. Coward.

You think you're not a coward going to the grocery store buying food you didn't have to kill yourself? Are you a woke vegan or something?

Strict vegetarian. I raise my own protein. I don't
kill innocent animals for sport or to prove how manly I am.

Venison is so delicious,

[762X545]

Why? If you fail to fulfill your desire to prove your manhood by shooting a deer which is harmlessly grazing 300 yards away with your 30.06 and ginormous scope then you should die. The deer can't defend itself. So be a real man. Raise the stakes. It takes very little skill to put a 7mm round in an animal at that distance. Make it more like war. You fail to kill your enemy, they find you and kill you. Coward.

You think you're not a coward going to the grocery store buying food you didn't have to kill yourself? Are you a woke vegan or something?

Strict vegetarian. I raise my own protein. I don't
kill innocent animals for sport or to prove how manly I am.

Venison is so delicious,

So is sex but we can't go around partaking of it with other people's spouses now can we.

[Shawn Henry]

Explain how it's Christlike to kill an animal when you don't need the meat? Don't tell me some b.s. story about.your family starving and that you need the meat. That's garbage. If you have a cell phone then you have enough money not to have to kill a defenseless animal. God put them here for our use. Not for a dentist with a 70k SUV to somehow try to heal his lack of testosterone by throwing on some 2k camo he bought at Cabelas and chartering a Cessna to take him into Alaska and murder an elk.

You're psychotic bro!

You told gradles21 he should kill himself if he wasn't successful.

Do I really need to explain to you how that is un-Christlike? Are you that lost?

[762X545]

Explain how it's Christlike to kill an animal when you don't need the meat? Don't tell me some b.s. story about.your family starving and that you need the meat. That's garbage. If you have a cell phone then you have enough money not to have to kill a defenseless animal. God put them here for our use. Not for a dentist with a 70k SUV to somehow try to heal his lack of testosterone by throwing on some 2k camo he bought at Cabelas and chartering a Cessna to take him into Alaska and murder an elk.

You're psychotic bro!

You told gradles21 he should kill himself if he wasn't successful.

Do I really need to explain to you how that is un-Christlike? Are you that lost?

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[Shawn Henry]

Says the guy who supports taking the life of an animal simply because it makes you feel like a man. Yeah, let's murder animals for fun. And you call me psychotic.

Yes, I do say it. You commit the insane sin of telling someone to kill himself, all because you don't think he should be hunting. That's beyond hypocrisy and the most un-Christlike post I've seen on this forum.

By the way, I've never shot an animal myself.

[Vision]

Well, you're just one Kool-Aid drinking fanatic, aren't you, I've never seen a more abhorrent and un-Christlike post on this forum.

Why? If you fail to fulfill your desire to prove your manhood by shooting a deer which is harmlessly grazing 300 yards away with your 30.06 and ginormous scope then you should die. The deer can't defend itself. So be a real man. Raise the stakes. It takes very little skill to put a 7mm round in an animal at that distance. Make it more like war. You fail to kill your enemy, they find you and kill you. Coward.

I guess you don't eat steaks or lobster, either. The animals were placed here by God for our pleasure. Hunting them keeps their population in check. Like right now I need to kill a few coyotes. My neighbors are on it, also.

Have you ever swatted a fly? That poor thing that irritates the crap out of you by flying in your ears and up your nose.

Get a grip, dude.

As a matter of fact I don't eat meat. The only reason you have to kill coyotes is because you have taken over their land. I will love to watch you squirm at the final judgement when you get to try to explain your blood lost for killing God's creations simply for your amusement.

And the land you live on wasn't wildlife habitat at some point in time?