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Tom MacDonald - "Sheeple"

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More truth relating to current events than all of the Q15 combined:

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[Verse 1]
Humans been controlled since the day that they was civilized
The truth has been so heavily politicized
If you don't know who's controllin' you and killin' all the little guys
Find out who you're not allowed to criticize
Black folks who were never ever actual slaves
Fighting with white folks who ain't actual Nazis
Controlled by rich folks who use the news to make hate
While elite folks control all the political parties
It's a big lie, tryna make you pick sides
Tryna make you burn the cities down and kill each other, they got sick minds
Big lies, dеfund the police so that therе's big crime
Then take away our freedom to restore order they let die
Play with people, turn men into women
Make the counterculture mainstream to mix up the system
Change the pronouns, if gender is a spectrum, so is privilege
I know poor white folks and black celebrities with millions
They starve you wit' a lack of information
And only give you facts through a branded corporation
Distort your worldview with an algorithm that changes
Based on propaganda curated for your engagement

[Chorus]
We can't be free (No!)
Can't have no peace 'til we're on the same team
But y'all are sheep (Oh!)
Glued to screens, just part of the machine
Y'all are sheeple, what do y'all believe?
To all my sheeple, nothing's what it seems

[Verse 2]
Hollywood been rottin' your brain, controllin' your mouth
You say "Lit", "Fleek", "Bet", "Cap", they tryna dumb you down
They endorse whatever narrative is popular to shout
And use minorities in movies for diversity clout
Two sides on the spectrum, but ain't none of 'em honest
Took the red pill and the blue pill, spit 'em both in the garbage
Bein' woke used to mean you understood you're a target
And now it's havin' two good legs and never takin' a step forward
If you agree, it's free speech, disagree, it's hate speech
Erase it if it came from anywhere except the mainstream
Trump supporters labeled as the racists, but that can't be
Lincoln was Republican, and that's who ended slavery
Science been politicized, it's easy to see
A mask became a symbol of which side you believe
But you'll never cure a sickness 'til you cure all the greed
'Cause the problem with our natural immunity is it's free
Society is broke and want you locked inside a cubicle
Addicted to pornography, liquor, and pharmaceuticals
Tell you that you're fat and poor and you were never beautiful
Then tweet how much they love you when they hear about your funeral
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[Chorus]
We can't be free (No!)
Can't have no peace 'til we're on the same team
But y'all are sheep (Oh!)
Glued to screens, just part of the machine
Y'all are sheeple, what do y'all believe?
To all my sheeple, nothing's what it seems

[Verse 3]
If they can't convince you they confuse you, they want you dumb or dead
They divided you by race, religion, income, and sex
Made everybody right or left, the hatred got so intense
If the other side likes oxygen, you'll put a bag on your head
And the conspiracy theories labeled as misinformation
It's just the terrifying truth that scares the hell out the nation
The system treating you like trash and you got rifles to aim with
Just imagine how they'll treat you when your guns get confiscated
George Orwell, 1984 was his last lecture
George called 'em "thought police", now we call 'em fact-checkers
Government surveillance tryna catch you, they don't ask questions
Mass incarceration equals capital for cash investments
The system isn't broke, it's workin' fine
Oppressive and chaotic is how it was designed
They say, "If we ain't doin' nothin' wrong, there's nothin' to hide"
While their agenda and intelligence completely classified
They don't teach you rights in school, you never learned 'em at all
'Cause they're easy to remove if you don't know what they are
The only people you can rule are the criminal ones
So they force you into corners 'til you're breakin' the law

[Chorus]
We can't be free (No!)
Can't have no peace 'til we're on the same team
But y'all are sheep (Oh!)
Glued to screens, just part of the machine
Y'all are sheeple, what do y'all believe?
To all my sheeple, nothing's what it seems

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Reluctant the first line statement in the opening is an offense, why the constant, repetitive complete put down and disregard not only for the LDS leaders but 50% of this forum? Does your every comment have to be negative, the title is an offense. There is no spirit in your comments any more as the spirit does not follow negativity. Sure saying harsh things at times "when moved upon by the spirit" but not the constant downward nagging. It gets very old Reluctant. Let's see you've made your point at least 600 times, can you say something new? Just asking.

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TheDuke wrote: October 17th, 2022, 10:06 am Reluctant the first line statement in the opening is an offense, why the constant, repetitive complete put down and disregard not only for the LDS leaders but 50% of this forum? Does your every comment have to be negative, the title is an offense. There is no spirit in your comments any more as the spirit does not follow negativity. Sure saying harsh things at times "when moved upon by the spirit" but not the constant downward nagging. It gets very old Reluctant. Let's see you've made your point at least 600 times, can you say something new? Just asking.
You are proving my point. You take offense at that which you choose to allow into your space.

And yes, I'll keep calling out the ineptitude of the church until people wake up. The actions of the church are spiritually and physically killing people.

BTW, I make many comments that are not "negative", but you rarely participate in any of those conversations. You see what you want to see.

Read the lyrics and you tell me who the "sheeple" are.

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That's spot-on.

Poor Q15. They just can't get real about things. When you've got $1T in assets, you cannot afford to be real.

I liked the poorer church. The new rich church is vacuous.

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then remove the "reluctant" and there is "desire" and "euphoria" in you're being the "watchman". the reluctance to put down the LDS leaders is well gone. BTW never really trusted any high counselors anyway, (better said very few) so seems par for the course, always seemed same for those that reveled in their position. Just FYI.

So what does the last part of the statement add? " Just a put down and claimed knowledge that is no better..

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TheDuke wrote: October 17th, 2022, 10:29 am then remove the "reluctant" and there is "desire" and "euphoria" in you're being the "watchman". the reluctance to put down the LDS leaders is well gone. BTW never really trusted any high counselors anyway, (better said very few) so seems par for the course, always seemed same for those that reveled in their position. Just FYI.

So what does the last part of the statement add? " Just a put down and claimed knowledge that is no better..
You need to understand the background as to why I chose the name "Reluctant Watchman." I've always enjoyed the story behind George Mason and the title given to him of the Reluctant Statesman. He helped craft various aspects of the US Constitution as well as the Bill of Rights. But, his signature is not on the Constitution. He was "reluctant" to sign it because he felt it did not do enough to end slavery and it gave too much power to the federal government. Both of which he would be correct. He chose to support it but not put his name to it.

In the very same way, I choose to support truths as originally taught by Joseph and others, including the Book of Mormon, but I'm reluctant to agree with where the church is headed and I'll gladly speak up and voice my opinion when I see clear deviations from God's words as spoken to my heart.

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TheDuke wrote: October 17th, 2022, 10:29 am So what does the last part of the statement add? " Just a put down and claimed knowledge that is no better..
Stop pontificating about your viewpoint. Read the lyrics and express relevant commentary. Is it that hard?

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Reluctant: I feel the same way. I have for over 35 years, not new for me. Not a blast from COVID. However, I think temporing the negativity makes room for honest evaluation, and constant negativity (or holding thing extra high on the other end) from the left, right, leaders, anti's, etc... does not add to the understanding and comprehension, it just alienates. The result is arguing, not facts just to argue. And to throw out rocks then say I will just put you on the "enemy list" is surely improper and inexusable. Sorry but you cannot honestly engage in conversation and hide behind a button. Well, honestly I guess it is possible and done all the time, like Biden, Pelosi, Fauci, etc... but that doesn't make it honest.

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TheDuke wrote: October 17th, 2022, 10:48 am Reluctant: I feel the same way. I have for over 35 years, not new for me. Not a blast from COVID. However, I think temporing the negativity makes room for honest evaluation, and constant negativity (or holding thing extra high on the other end) from the left, right, leaders, anti's, etc... does not add to the understanding and comprehension, it just alienates. The result is arguing, not facts just to argue. And to throw out rocks then say I will just put you on the "enemy list" is surely improper and inexusable. Sorry but you cannot honestly engage in conversation and hide behind a button. Well, honestly I guess it is possible and done all the time, like Biden, Pelosi, Fauci, etc... but that doesn't make it honest.
All of those words and you didn't address the OP, just your personal opinion about how you don't like me exposing the ineptitude, ignorance, or corruption of the church. And you lecture me about not "engaging" in honest conversation. Talk about the subject at hand, or stop whining. Or you can address why you think the term Sheeple is offensive in the context of the lyrics, either one.

EDIT: Duke, I should also point out, There are 170+ years of church history to sift through. There's a lot of crap to sort out to find the gems.

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Reluctant Watchman wrote: October 17th, 2022, 11:04 am
TheDuke wrote: October 17th, 2022, 10:48 am Reluctant: I feel the same way. I have for over 35 years, not new for me. Not a blast from COVID. However, I think temporing the negativity makes room for honest evaluation, and constant negativity (or holding thing extra high on the other end) from the left, right, leaders, anti's, etc... does not add to the understanding and comprehension, it just alienates. The result is arguing, not facts just to argue. And to throw out rocks then say I will just put you on the "enemy list" is surely improper and inexusable. Sorry but you cannot honestly engage in conversation and hide behind a button. Well, honestly I guess it is possible and done all the time, like Biden, Pelosi, Fauci, etc... but that doesn't make it honest.
All of those words and you didn't address the OP, just your personal opinion about how you don't like me exposing the ineptitude, ignorance, or corruption of the church. And you lecture me about not "engaging" in honest conversation. Talk about the subject at hand, or stop whining. Or you can address why you think the term Sheeple is offensive in the context of the lyrics, either one.

EDIT: Duke, I should also point out, There are 170+ years of church history to sift through. There's a lot of crap to sort out to find the gems.
Agreed on his comment, hence I usually try to focus my quotes of LDS leaders from JS or his contemporaries and pay much less (if any) attention to those that follow, any more that is than any other religious scholarly type.

I don't think you read my initial comments. Perhaps I wasn't clear. I didn't go farther as the opening line put me off. That really was my point. Perhaps something worthwhile but I'll never know because the opener was negative and I don't really wish to lose the spirit. By negative, I don't mean bad or opposing (this telestial world is about opposition after all), I mean in tone. So, my comments were not and will not on this thread be about link, I cannot and will not open it. Sorry but must draw the line somewhere. I know other threads say nice things in the opener then get deeply soured, even by the thread owner, but anyone can get sucked it. But, when Xi says he wants to destroy and lead the world, why bother reading his next 10 pages of BS explaining why?

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Another great one.

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The one that launched him.

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BTW they reorganized our ward and stake this week. It was quite woke in my opinion. However, relative to this thread what I saw was a much larger ward with many, many fewer people wearing masks. I guess somewhere the sheeple here got over their sickness by going to a new building?

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TheDuke wrote: October 17th, 2022, 6:52 pm
Reluctant Watchman wrote: October 17th, 2022, 11:04 am
TheDuke wrote: October 17th, 2022, 10:48 am Reluctant: I feel the same way. I have for over 35 years, not new for me. Not a blast from COVID. However, I think temporing the negativity makes room for honest evaluation, and constant negativity (or holding thing extra high on the other end) from the left, right, leaders, anti's, etc... does not add to the understanding and comprehension, it just alienates. The result is arguing, not facts just to argue. And to throw out rocks then say I will just put you on the "enemy list" is surely improper and inexusable. Sorry but you cannot honestly engage in conversation and hide behind a button. Well, honestly I guess it is possible and done all the time, like Biden, Pelosi, Fauci, etc... but that doesn't make it honest.
All of those words and you didn't address the OP, just your personal opinion about how you don't like me exposing the ineptitude, ignorance, or corruption of the church. And you lecture me about not "engaging" in honest conversation. Talk about the subject at hand, or stop whining. Or you can address why you think the term Sheeple is offensive in the context of the lyrics, either one.

EDIT: Duke, I should also point out, There are 170+ years of church history to sift through. There's a lot of crap to sort out to find the gems.
Agreed on his comment, hence I usually try to focus my quotes of LDS leaders from JS or his contemporaries and pay much less (if any) attention to those that follow, any more that is than any other religious scholarly type.

I don't think you read my initial comments. Perhaps I wasn't clear. I didn't go farther as the opening line put me off. That really was my point. Perhaps something worthwhile but I'll never know because the opener was negative and I don't really wish to lose the spirit. By negative, I don't mean bad or opposing (this telestial world is about opposition after all), I mean in tone. So, my comments were not and will not on this thread be about link, I cannot and will not open it. Sorry but must draw the line somewhere. I know other threads say nice things in the opener then get deeply soured, even by the thread owner, but anyone can get sucked it. But, when Xi says he wants to destroy and lead the world, why bother reading his next 10 pages of BS explaining why?
How about I make a suggestion that you just use the name “The” and drop “Duke”… that work?

BTW, my original statement is still true. None of the 15 even come close to what this man put into words.

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