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Does the devil have the power to destroy the earth?

The earth is not the devil's to destroy, nor does he have the power. (let alone man)

Reports on the ground were that they were fire bombed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The bombs were mega tons of TNT, not atomic bombs. (horrific enough, but not nuclear)

No evacuation or fallout in those places. Things grew right after.

After that bombing, 1.5 million Russian troops invaded Manchuria. That's why Japan surrendered. Not because of the atomic blast.

One Lithuanian Jew working for the US war department was the only one allowed to report on the "atomic bombing" in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They weren't.

They did all this nuclear bomb testing in Nevada. Where's the fallout?

All the pictures of the deformed Japanese people from the war was from chemical weapons (DDT etc.) not the "bomb".

Gaylon Windsor. Look him up. He used to eat uranium to prove a point. He began breaking the spell of the danger of radiation (which is heat).

The spell of nuclear bombs was a brilliant ploy for foreign policy.

Don't be addicted to this fear.

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Interesting thought... considering where I work I tend to think these kind of weapons do exist, but I think the argument of "Have they ever been used?" is very different than "Are they real?". There's sure a lot of engineering going on for weapons that don't exist, if they really don't exist. But with the lies of our government, it wouldn't surprise me if the answer to both questions is "No".

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Lots of fallout and the resulting sick people from the nuke tests in Nevada. My grandpa died of cancer and was a downwinder.

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madvin wrote: October 4th, 2022, 1:30 pm Does the devil have the power to destroy the earth?

The earth is not the devil's to destroy, nor does he have the power. (let alone man)

Reports on the ground were that they were fire bombed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The bombs were mega tons of TNT, not atomic bombs. (horrific enough, but not nuclear)

No evacuation or fallout in those places. Things grew right after.

After that bombing, 1.5 million Russian troops invaded Manchuria. That's why Japan surrendered. Not because of the atomic blast.

One Lithuanian Jew working for the US war department was the only one allowed to report on the "atomic bombing" in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They weren't.

They did all this nuclear bomb testing in Nevada. Where's the fallout?

All the pictures of the deformed Japanese people from the war was from chemical weapons (DDT etc.) not the "bomb".

Gaylon Windsor. Look him up. He used to eat uranium to prove a point. He began breaking the spell of the danger of radiation (which is heat).

The spell of nuclear bombs was a brilliant ploy for foreign policy.

Don't be addicted to this fear.
Never seen one in person, but what should we make of these?
I don't know if conventional TNT explosions can creates the intense thermal flash effect which instantly vaporizes the paint in the cars and singes the houses like the test footage shows or not.
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SmallFarm wrote: October 4th, 2022, 2:50 pm Lots of fallout and the resulting sick people from the nuke tests in Nevada. My grandpa died of cancer and was a downwinder.
Same here :( (allegedly). We must have the same grandpa.

But I am still skeptical of whether or not nukes are real. When you see how much the government lies, uses false propaganda, and the extent of the evil and corruption, it's difficult to trust anything.

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creator wrote: October 4th, 2022, 3:41 pm
SmallFarm wrote: October 4th, 2022, 2:50 pm Lots of fallout and the resulting sick people from the nuke tests in Nevada. My grandpa died of cancer and was a downwinder.
Same here :( (allegedly). We must have the same grandpa.

But I am still skeptical of whether or not nukes are real. When you see how much the government lies, uses false propaganda, and the extent of the evil and corruption, it's difficult to trust anything.
I have no reason not to believe it. They can kill us with or without them.

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Actually, the atomic bombs dropped on Japan were actually 15 and 20 kilotons of TNT in explosive yield, nowhere near the megaton range of TNT. That's small fry compared to even the lower end nukes of more modern day. A 500 Kiloton to 1 Megaton warhead is standard.

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nvr wrote: October 4th, 2022, 3:02 pm
madvin wrote: October 4th, 2022, 1:30 pm Does the devil have the power to destroy the earth?

The earth is not the devil's to destroy, nor does he have the power. (let alone man)

Reports on the ground were that they were fire bombed in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The bombs were mega tons of TNT, not atomic bombs. (horrific enough, but not nuclear)

No evacuation or fallout in those places. Things grew right after.

After that bombing, 1.5 million Russian troops invaded Manchuria. That's why Japan surrendered. Not because of the atomic blast.

One Lithuanian Jew working for the US war department was the only one allowed to report on the "atomic bombing" in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They weren't.

They did all this nuclear bomb testing in Nevada. Where's the fallout?

All the pictures of the deformed Japanese people from the war was from chemical weapons (DDT etc.) not the "bomb".

Gaylon Windsor. Look him up. He used to eat uranium to prove a point. He began breaking the spell of the danger of radiation (which is heat).

The spell of nuclear bombs was a brilliant ploy for foreign policy.

Don't be addicted to this fear.
Never seen one in person, but what should we make of these?
I don't know if conventional TNT explosions can creates the intense thermal flash effect which instantly vaporizes the paint in the cars and singes the houses like the test footage shows or not.
I don't know, but the last two I would ask where was the camera and why wasn't it destroyed as well. The first two may have been faked.

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A nearly out of print book apparently shows how they did it. At $150, I guess you have to be rich to know how.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1889054119/

the free version: bunkers and telephoto lens
https://www.quora.com/In-nuclear-explos ... os-survive

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Kim Jong Un's bottle rockets are the real deal. He got them from Wyoming.
The Biden Administration better send him more Hostess Twinkies before he throws another tantrum.

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My father (now deceased) was a nuclear weapons specialist in the Air Force Strategic Air Command in the 1960's-70's. I was born on a cold war missile base.

They are REAL.

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Denial is a stage of grief

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Not only do I think we have them, I think we have worse. As many have said, we're lucky CERN hasn't ripped a hole in the Earth... or HAARP completely destroyed our atmosphere.

I suspect the ozone hole was to do with all these tests rather than CFCs.

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SmallFarm wrote: October 4th, 2022, 2:50 pm Lots of fallout and the resulting sick people from the nuke tests in Nevada. My grandpa died of cancer and was a downwinder.
Yeah my father's family is from Southern Utah. They all pretty much died from cancer. Even if nukes are not as powerful as they say, governments are the experts when it comes to killing people. Maybe it's the only thing governments are really good at.

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Of course nukes are real.

See Zechariah 5

Or Revelation 9:5-10

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blitzinstripes wrote: October 4th, 2022, 5:40 pm My father (now deceased) was a nuclear weapons specialist in the Air Force Strategic Air Command in the 1960's-70's. I was born on a cold war missile base.

They are REAL.
Allegedly. 8-)

They very well could be real, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ but I am, for good reason, completely open to the idea of them being another government lie. Knowing how much the government lies, I'm not going to trust that nukes are real. Hopefully we never get to experience that they are real. :D

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They are real. It's easy to wonder, I get it. With the Mockingbird media and government lying it's like living in a mirror house.

There are tons of reasons we know they are real. One for me is that my Dad used to see them test the bombs in Nevada when he was young. I mean, he wasn't at the test site, but he could see the flash light up the sky over 100 miles away.

If that wasn't a nuke then it was something even funkier and even harder to explain. And that wasn't once or twice. He saw that a lot of times.
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Atrasado wrote: October 5th, 2022, 9:46 amThere are tons of reasons we know they are real. One for me is that my Dad used to see them test the bombs in Nevada when he was young. I mean, he wasn't at the test site, but he could see the flash light up the sky over 100 miles away.

If that wasn't a nuke then it was something even funkier and even harder to explain. And that wasn't once or twice. He saw that a lot of times.
One of the arguments I read is that people have just seen tons of something like TNT set off, not an actual nuclear bomb. So, just because people think they saw nuclear bombs doesn't mean they actual did. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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creator wrote: October 5th, 2022, 10:07 am
Atrasado wrote: October 5th, 2022, 9:46 amThere are tons of reasons we know they are real. One for me is that my Dad used to see them test the bombs in Nevada when he was young. I mean, he wasn't at the test site, but he could see the flash light up the sky over 100 miles away.

If that wasn't a nuke then it was something even funkier and even harder to explain. And that wasn't once or twice. He saw that a lot of times.
One of the arguments I read is that people have just seen tons of something like TNT set off, not an actual nuclear bomb. So, just because people think they saw nuclear bombs doesn't mean they actual did. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's possible, but he wasn't that close. I wonder if it would be possible to construct a TNT bomb that big. Plus how do they account for the radioactive fallout? It's not like they were guessing about that. Plenty of people had Geiger counters.

Plus, nuclear reactors definitely work so there is a high level of explanatory power by the current scientific theories. Those theories certainly allow for nuclear weapons.

Besides, creating enough TNT to have such bombs would require a huge amount of manufacturing capacity, where is that capacity at?

Also, megaton explosions require millions of tons of TNT. (We know from seismographs and shockwaves the rough amount of energy released from the tests so we know that there were megaton sized explosions) How did they transport that many tons of TNT without anyone knowing? Without any major accidents?

Where did they hide all that TNT on the testing ranges? That is a HUGE volume of TNT even at the kilo ton range. Let's say that a 10 kiloton bomb was exploded. That's 11,865 cubic yards of TNT which is a cube over 68 feet on each side. Where did they hide that? How did they get it into the air for aerial ignitions?

A 10 megaton bomb would require 11,865,000 cubic yards of TNT. That's a cube that's 684 feet on each side. By volume, that's 2.72 times as much as the amount of concrete used in the Hoover dam. A bomb that size would have taken a literal army to build.

Furthermore, how could they wire all of this TNT to explode all at once? A great deal of explosive power is lost by the explosion blowing away much of the explosive material before it ignites. If you couldn't explode it all at once it might be impossible to create a bomb that large.

Since the physics seems to allow for nuclear bombs, I would guess that the simplest explanation is that they are real. I love learning the truth about things, and that implies revealing government deceptions. There are so many. However, my analytical mind just won't let me believe this theory.
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Atrasado wrote: October 5th, 2022, 10:47 am... Since the physics certainly allows for nuclear bombs, I would guess that the simplest explanation is that they are real. I love learning the truth about things, and that implies revealing government deception. There are so many. However, my analytical mind just won't let me believe this theory.
Some would argue the points you've made about TNT, and some physics experts say nuclear bombs are not realistic. I won't pretend to know enough to debunk either side of this topic, but I do know that if the government is saying something, it should be questioned.

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See Nuke Map for blast/overpressure/heat/radiation effects of various sized nuclear warheads.

(Can be used for truck bomb or container based nukes).

https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

I live 13 miles from Las Vegas Strip. If one hit the strip, I’d likely have fire to worry about.

If Nellis AFB was targeted, I’d have less to worry about…(except going the long way round to head for Utah…).

Nukes are now much smaller than the “duck & cover” nukes back in the day. Then, they were going for brute strength and MAD.

Nowadays, it’s all about precision targeting, and multiple warheads per missle, so “surgical strikes” defeat the enemy, but don’t obliterate the conquered land into molten glass.

Fallout from wind borne directions is a concern, learn to deal with it.

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creator wrote: October 5th, 2022, 11:28 am
Atrasado wrote: October 5th, 2022, 10:47 am... Since the physics certainly allows for nuclear bombs, I would guess that the simplest explanation is that they are real. I love learning the truth about things, and that implies revealing government deception. There are so many. However, my analytical mind just won't let me believe this theory.
Some would argue the points you've made about TNT, and some physics experts say nuclear bombs are not realistic. I won't pretend to know enough to debunk either side of this topic, but I do know that if the government is saying something, it should be questioned.
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Anyone want to guess where this is from? No cheating please.

A single projectile charged with all the power in the Universe… An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as 10,000 suns, rose in all its splendor… It was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death which reduced to ashes an entire race.
The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. Their hair and nails fell out, pottery broke without any apparent cause, and the birds turned white.
After a few hours, all foodstuffs were infected. To escape from this fire, the soldiers threw themselves into the river.

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Niemand wrote: October 5th, 2022, 5:54 pm Anyone want to guess where this is from?
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