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http://www.aztlan.net/protocols.htm#protocol1



In the spirit of fairness, we are providing the following two links that refute the legitimacy of the "Protocols".

http://www.igc.org/ddickerson/protocols.html

http://skepdic.com/protocols.html


The author of this translation of the famous Protocols was himself a victim of the Revolution. He had lived for many years in Russia and was married to a Russian lady. Among his other activities in Russia he had been for a number of years a Russian Correspondent of the MORNING POST, a position which he occupied when the Revolution broke out, and his vivid descriptions of events in Russia will still be in the recollection of many of the readers of that Journal. Naturally he was singled out for the anger of the Soviet.

On the day that Captain Cromie was murdered by Jews, Victor Marsden was arrested and thrown into the Peter-Paul Prison, expecting every day to have his name called out for execution. This, however, he escaped, and eventually he was allowed to return to England very much of a wreck in bodily health. However, he recovered under treatment and the devoted care of his wife and friends. One of the first things he undertook, as soon as he was able, was this translation of the Protocols.

Mr. Marsden was eminently well qualified for the work. His intimate acquaintance with Russia, Russian life and the Russian language on the one hand, and his mastery of a terse literary English style on the other, placed him in a position of advantage which few others could claim. The consequence is that we have in his version an eminently readable work, and though the subject-matter is somewhat formless, Mr. Marsden's literary touch reveals the thread running through the twenty-four Protocols. It may be said with truth that this work was carried out at the cost of Mr. Marsden's own life's blood.

He told the writer of this Preface that he could not stand more than an hour at a time of his work on it in the British Museum, as the diabolical spirit of the matter which he was obliged to turn into English made him positively ill.

Mr. Marsden's connection with the MORNING POST was not severed by his return to England, and he was well enough to accept the post of special correspondent of that journal in the suite of H.R.H., the Prince of Wales on his Empire tour. From this he returned with the Prince, apparently in much better health, but within a few days of his landing he was taken suddenly ill, and died after a very brief illness.

May this work be his crowning monument! In it he has performed an immense service to the English-speaking world, and there can be little doubt that it will take its place in the first rank of the English versions of "THE PROTOCOLS of the Meetings of the LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION."
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Mullenite wrote:THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VZ7av9F ... re=related

http://www.aztlan.net/protocols.htm#protocol1



In the spirit of fairness, we are providing the following two links that refute the legitimacy of the "Protocols".

http://www.igc.org/ddickerson/protocols.html

http://skepdic.com/protocols.html


The author of this translation of the famous Protocols was himself a victim of the Revolution. He had lived for many years in Russia and was married to a Russian lady. Among his other activities in Russia he had been for a number of years a Russian Correspondent of the MORNING POST, a position which he occupied when the Revolution broke out, and his vivid descriptions of events in Russia will still be in the recollection of many of the readers of that Journal. Naturally he was singled out for the anger of the Soviet.

On the day that Captain Cromie was murdered by Jews, Victor Marsden was arrested and thrown into the Peter-Paul Prison, expecting every day to have his name called out for execution. This, however, he escaped, and eventually he was allowed to return to England very much of a wreck in bodily health. However, he recovered under treatment and the devoted care of his wife and friends. One of the first things he undertook, as soon as he was able, was this translation of the Protocols.

Mr. Marsden was eminently well qualified for the work. His intimate acquaintance with Russia, Russian life and the Russian language on the one hand, and his mastery of a terse literary English style on the other, placed him in a position of advantage which few others could claim. The consequence is that we have in his version an eminently readable work, and though the subject-matter is somewhat formless, Mr. Marsden's literary touch reveals the thread running through the twenty-four Protocols. It may be said with truth that this work was carried out at the cost of Mr. Marsden's own life's blood.

He told the writer of this Preface that he could not stand more than an hour at a time of his work on it in the British Museum, as the diabolical spirit of the matter which he was obliged to turn into English made him positively ill.

Mr. Marsden's connection with the MORNING POST was not severed by his return to England, and he was well enough to accept the post of special correspondent of that journal in the suite of H.R.H., the Prince of Wales on his Empire tour. From this he returned with the Prince, apparently in much better health, but within a few days of his landing he was taken suddenly ill, and died after a very brief illness.

May this work be his crowning monument! In it he has performed an immense service to the English-speaking world, and there can be little doubt that it will take its place in the first rank of the English versions of "THE PROTOCOLS of the Meetings of the LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION."
Whatever may be said of the Protocols....or whoever wrote them with whatever bias....all you have to do is read them with the understanding that they were written at least before 1908....and its an eye opener!

My write-up (collection) on it -
http://yophat.blogspot.com/2009/03/prot ... judge.html

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"The only statement I care to make about the PROTOCOLS is that they fit in with what is going on. They are 16 years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time. THEY FIT IT NOW." -Henry Ford in an interview published in New York World, Feb. 17, 1921

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It seems like the conspiracies ring true, even if the "blame the Jews" element was forged, which I think it was. Jews are no more conspiratorial than Gentiles.

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when I was on the board of directors of the Freeman Inst. in Provo with Cleon Skousen, I discussed this with him. He told me that they were a "conterfiet"...I told him, what is a counterfiet, but a copy of "reality"...he still voted for Richard Nixon. WHoops........anyhow, thanks Jason, right on...............we are had, and "they" did it to us.........on to the Obamanation of desolation..goodnite America :!:

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I have to agree with pjbrownie on this one. I think that the Protocols are propaganda, insomuch as they paint the Jews as the main perpetrators. I do believe in the conspiracy, but I don't think it's due to just Jews. Some may be Jews, but that is coincidental.

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kathyn wrote:I have to agree with pjbrownie on this one. I think that the Protocols are propaganda, insomuch as they paint the Jews as the main perpetrators. I do believe in the conspiracy, but I don't think it's due to just Jews. Some may be Jews, but that is coincidental.
I could care less whether its Jews or not but I find it interesting that Jews are at the top of the food chain....and the ones wicked enough conspire to kill the Savior.

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PROTOCOL No. 4
1. Every republic passes through several stages. The first of these is comprised in the early days of mad raging by the blind mob, tossed hither and thither, right and left: the second is demagogy from which is born anarchy, and that leads inevitably to despotism - not any longer legal and overt, and therefore responsible despotism, but to unseen and secretly hidden, yet nevertheless sensibly felt despotism in the hands of some secret organization or other, whose acts are the more unscrupulous inasmuch as it works behind a screen, behind the backs of all sorts of agents, the changing of whom not only does not injuriously affect but actually aids the secret force by saving it, thanks to continual changes, from the necessity of expanding its resources on the rewarding of long services.

2. Who and what is in a position to overthrow an invisible force? And this is precisely what our force is. GENTILE masonry blindly serves as a screen for us and our objects, but the plan of action of our force, even its very abiding-place, remains for the whole people an unknown mystery.

WE SHALL DESTROY GOD

3. But even freedom might be harmless and have its place in the State economy without injury to the well-being of the peoples if it rested upon the foundation of faith in God, upon the brotherhood of humanity, unconnected with the conception of equality, which is negatived by the very laws of creation, for they have established subordination. With such a faith as this a people might be governed by a wardship of parishes, and would walk contentedly and humbly under the guiding hand of its spiritual pastor submitting to the dispositions of God upon earth. This is the reason why IT IS INDISPENSABLE FOR US TO UNDERMINE ALL FAITH, TO TEAR OUT OF THE MIND OF THE "GOYIM" THE VERY PRINCIPLE OF GOD-HEAD AND THE SPIRIT, AND TO PUT IN ITS PLACE ARITHMETICAL CALCULATIONS AND MATERIAL NEEDS.

4. In order to give the GOYIM no time to think and take note, their minds must be diverted towards industry and trade. Thus, all the nations will be swallowed up in the pursuit of gain and in the race for it will not take note of their common foe. But again, in order that freedom may once for all disintegrate and ruin the communities of the GOYIM, we must put industry on a speculative basis: the result of this will be that what is withdrawn from the land by industry will slip through the hands and pass into speculation, that is, to our classes.

5. The intensified struggle for superiority and shocks delivered to economic life will create, nay, have already created, disenchanted, cold and heartless communities. Such communities will foster a strong aversion towards the higher political and towards religion. Their only guide is gain, that is Gold, which they will erect into a veritable cult, for the sake of those material delights which it can give. Then will the hour strike when, not for the sake of attaining the good, not even to win wealth, but solely out of hatred towards the privileged, the lower classes of the GOYIM will follow our lead against our rivals for power, the intellectuals of the GOYIM.

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ROTOCOL No. 5
1. What form of administrative rule can be given to communities in which corruption has penetrated everywhere, communities where riches are attained only by the clever surprise tactics of semi-swindling tricks; where looseness reigns: where morality is maintained by penal measures and harsh laws but not by voluntarily accepted principles: where the feelings towards faith and country are obligated by cosmopolitan convictions? What form of rule is to be given to these communities if not that despotism which I shall describe to you later? We shall create an intensified centralization of government in order to grip in our hands all the forces of the community. We shall regulate mechanically all the actions of the political life of our subjects by new laws. These laws will withdraw one by one all the indulgences and liberties which have been permitted by the GOYIM, and our kingdom will be distinguished by a despotism of such magnificent proportions as to be at any moment and in every place in a position to wipe out any GOYIM who oppose us by deed or word.

2. We shall be told that such a despotism as I speak of is not consistent with the progress of these days, but I will prove to you that is is.

3. In the times when the peoples looked upon kings on their thrones as on a pure manifestation of the will of God, they submitted without a murmur to the despotic power of kings: but from the day when we insinuated into their minds the conception of their own rights they began to regard the occupants of thrones as mere ordinary mortals. The holy unction of the Lord's Anointed has fallen from the heads of kings in the eyes of the people, and when we also robbed them of their faith in God the might of power was flung upon the streets into the place of public proprietorship and was seized by us.

MASSES LED BY LIES

4. Moreover, the art of directing masses and individuals by means of cleverly manipulated theory and verbitage, by regulations of life in common and all sorts of other quirks, in all which the GOYIM understand nothing, belongs likewise to the specialists of our administrative brain. Reared on analysis, observation, on delicacies of fine calculation, in this species of skill we have no rivals, any more than we have either in the drawing up of plans of political actions and solidarity. In this respect the Jesuits alone might have compared with us, but we have contrived to discredit them in the eyes of the unthinking mob as an overt organization, while we ourselves all the while have kept our secret organization in the shade. However, it is probably all the same to the world who is its sovereign lord, whether the head of Catholicism or our despot of the blood of Zion! But to us, the Chosen People, it is very far from being a matter of indifference.

5. FOR A TIME PERHAPS WE MIGHT BE SUCCESSFULLY DEALT WITH BY A COALITION OF THE "GOYIM" OF ALL THE WORLD: but from this danger we are secured by the discord existing among them whose roots are so deeply seated that they can never now be plucked up. We have set one against another the personal and national reckonings of the GOYIM, religious and race hatreds, which we have fostered into a huge growth in the course of the past twenty centuries. This is the reason why there is not one State which would anywhere receive support if it were to raise its arm, for every one of them must bear in mind that any agreement against us would be unprofitable to itself. We are too strong - there is no evading our power. THE NATIONS CANNOT COME TO EVEN AN INCONSIDERABLE PRIVATE AGREEMENT WITHOUT OUR SECRETLY HAVING A HAND IN IT.

6. PER ME REGES REGNANT. "It is through me that Kings reign." And it was said by the prophets that we were chosen by God Himself to rule over the whole earth. God has endowed us with genius that we may be equal to our task. Were genius in the opposite camp it would still struggle against us, but even so, a newcomer is no match for the old-established settler: the struggle would be merciless between us, such a fight as the world has never seen. Aye, and the genius on their side would have arrived too late. All the wheels of the machinery of all States go by the force of the engine, which is in our hands, and that engine of the machinery of States is - Gold. The science of political economy invented by our learned elders has for long past been giving royal prestige to capital.

MONOPOLY CAPITAL

7. Capital, if it is to co-operate untrammeled, must be free to establish a monopoly of industry and trade: this is already being put in execution by an unseen hand in all quarters of the world. This freedom will give political force to those engaged in industry, and that will help to oppress the people. Nowadays it is more important to disarm the peoples than to lead them into war: more important to use for our advantage the passions which have burst into flames than to quench their fire: more important to eradicate them. THE PRINCIPLE OBJECT OF OUR DIRECTORATE CONSISTS IN THIS: TO DEBILITATE THE PUBLIC MIND BY CRITICISM; TO LEAD IT AWAY FROM SERIOUS REFLECTIONS CALCULATED TO AROUSE RESISTANCE; TO DISTRACT THE FORCES OF THE MIND TOWARDS A SHAM FIGHT OF EMPTY ELOQUENCE.

8. In all ages the people of the world, equally with individuals, have accepted words for deeds, for THEY ARE CONTENT WITH A SHOW and rarely pause to note, in the public arena, whether promises are followed by performance. Therefore we shall establish show institutions which will give eloquent proof of their benefit to progress.

9. We shall assume to ourselves the liberal physiognomy of all parties, of all directions, and we shall give that physiognomy a VOICE IN ORATORS WHO WILL SPEAK SO MUCH THAT THEY WILL EXHAUST THE PATIENCE OF THEIR HEARERS AND PRODUCE AN ABHORRENCE OF ORATORY.

10. IN ORDER TO PUT PUBLIC OPINION INTO OUR HANDS WE MUST BRING IT INTO A STATE OF BEWILDERMENT BY GIVING EXPRESSION FROM ALL SIDES TO SO MANY CONTRADICTORY OPINIONS AND FOR SUCH LENGTH OF TIME AS WILL SUFFICE TO MAKE THE "GOYIM" LOSE THEIR HEADS IN THE LABYRINTH AND COME TO SEE THAT THE BEST THING IS TO HAVE NO OPINION OF ANY KIND IN MATTERS POLITICAL, which it is not given to the public to understand, because they are understood only by him who guides the public. This is the first secret.

11. The second secret requisite for the success of our government is comprised in the following: To multiply to such an extent national failings, habits, passions, conditions of civil life, that it will be impossible for anyone to know where he is in the resulting chaos, so that the people in consequence will fail to understand one another. This measure will also serve us in another way, namely, to sow discord in all parties, to dislocate all collective forces which are still unwilling to submit to us, and to discourage any kind of personal initiative which might in any degree hinder our affair. THERE IS NOTHING MORE DANGEROUS THAN PERSONAL INITIATIVE: if it has genius behind it, such initiative can do more than can be done by millions of people among whom we have sown discord. We must so direct the education of the GOYIM communities that whenever they come upon a matter requiring initiative they may drop their hands in despairing impotence. The strain which results from freedom of actions saps the forces when it meets with the freedom of another. From this collision arise grave moral shocks, disenchantments, failures. BY ALL THESE MEANS WE SHALL SO WEAR DOWN THE "GOYIM" THAT THEY WILL BE COMPELLED TO OFFER US INTERNATIONAL POWER OF A NATURE THAT BY ITS POSITION WILL ENABLE US WITHOUT ANY VIOLENCE GRADUALLY TO ABSORB ALL THE STATE FORCES OF THE WORLD AND TO FORM A SUPER-GOVERNMENT.

In place of the rulers of to-day we shall set up a bogey which will be called the Super-Government Administration. Its hands will reach out in all directions like nippers and its organization will be of such colossal dimensions that it cannot fail to subdue all the nations of the world.

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For some odd reason, the following ENTIRE THREAD was deleted…

*Edited: Checked again, now it’s back. Strange. I realize this is controversial, but what isn’t- especially on this forum? And I think this may address the elephant in the room many are carefully avoiding - to our & future generations’ detriment.



The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
… is a text describing a Jewish (or those posing as Jews) plan for global domination. Though it seems to have come from earlier sources, it was first published in Russia in 1903. ”The Protocols are the minutes of a late 19th-century meeting where Jewish leaders discussed their goal of global Jewish hegemony by subverting the morals of Gentiles, and by controlling the press and the world's economies.” - Wikipedia

"The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are sixteen years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time. They fit it now." --Henry Ford, 2-17-21, whose newspaper, the Dearborn Independent, cited the Protocols as evidence of an alleged Jewish threat until at least 1927

"To what extent the whole existence of this people is based on a continuous lie is shown incomparably by the Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion...." --Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf



Fake-Jews’ objectives as outlined in Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion:

1) Banish God from the heavens and Christianity from the earth.

2) Allow no private ownership of property or business.

3) Abolish marriage, family and home. Encourage sexual promiscuity, homosexuality, adultery, and fornication.

4) Completely destroy the sovereignty of all nations and every feeling or expression of patriotism.

5) Establish a one-world government through which the Luciferian Illuminati elite can rule the world. All other objectives are secondary to this one supreme purpose.

6) Take the education of children completely away from the parents. Cunningly and subtly lead the people thinking that compulsory school attendance laws are absolutely necessary to prevent illiteracy and to prepare children for better positions and life’s responsibilities. Then after the children are forced to attend the schools get control of normal schools and teacher’s colleges and also the writing and selection of all text books.

7) Take all prayer and Bible instruction out of the schools and introduce pornography, vulgarity, and courses in sex. If we can make one generation of any nation immoral and sexy, we can take that nation.

8) Completely destroy every thought of patriotism, national sovereignty, individualism, and a private competitive enterprise system.

9) Circulate vulgar, pornographic literature and pictures and encourage the unrestricted sale and general use of alcoholic beverage and drugs to weaken and corrupt the youth.

10) Foment, precipitate and finance large scale wars to emasculate and bankrupt the nations and thereby force them into a one-world government.

11) Secretly infiltrate and control colleges, universities, labor unions, political parties, churches, patriotic organizations, and governments. These are direct quotes from their own writings (The Conflict of the Ages, by Clemens Gaebelein pp. 100-102).

12) The creation of a World Government.

https://www.simpletoremember.com/articl ... s-of-zion/
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To be clear, I believe the evil that so-called Jews do or support, are not done by genuine Jews, many of which who have died or who reject evil Zionist stealing of land & related atrocities. As scriptures say, they pretend to be Jews “but are not.” Many people’s first reaction may be “anti-semitism!” or other dogma based on systematic indoctrination from Scofield bibles in the early 1900’s. But try to have an open mind. And please share thoughts.

Do you see a common thread in recent issues like lgbtq-bs, abortion, unethical wars, government finances, globalist dogma, educational indoctrination, taking away constitutional rights etc?
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The protocols can be debated as to whether or not they are guiding those in power. The Talmud (from Hebrew word “to learn”) is undeniably guiding many, because it is doctrine of Judaism.

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Quotes from the Jewish Talmud: (Note that ‘goy’ is anyone not Jewish)

“If a ‘goy’ (Gentile) hits a Jew he must be killed.” (Sanhedrin 58b)
* “If a Jew finds an object lost by a ‘goy’ it does not have to be returned.” (Baba Mezia 24a)
* “If a Jew murders a ‘goy’ there will be no death penalty.” (Sanhedrin 57a)
* What a Jew steals from a ‘goy’ he may keep.” (Sanhedrin 57a)
* “Jews may use subterfuges to circumvent a ‘goy.’” (Baba Kamma 113a)
* “All children of the ‘goyim’ (Gentiles) are animals.” (Yebamoth 98a)

“The ‘goyim’ are not humans. They are beasts.” (Baba Mezia 114b)
* “If you eat with a ‘goy’ it is the same as eating with a dog.” (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)
* “Even the best of the ‘goyim’ should all be killed.” (Soferim 15)

* “Sexual intercourse between the ‘goyim’ is like intercourse between animals.” (Sanhedrin 74b)
* “When it comes to a Gentile in peace times, one may harm him indirectly, for instance, by removing a ladder after he had fallen into a crevice.” (Shulkan Arukh, Yoreh De ‘ah, 158, Hebrew Edition only)

“‘Yashu’ (derogatory for ‘Jesus’) is in Hell being boiled in hot excrement.” (Gittin 57a)
[’Yashu’ is an acronym for the Jewish curse, ‘May his (Jesus) name be wiped out forevermore.’]
* Yashu (Jesus) was sexually immoral and worshipped a brick.” (Sanhedrin 107b)
* “Yashu (Jesus) was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness and refused to repent.” (Sotah 47a)
* “Christians who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.” (Rosh Hashanah 17a)

https://www.sefaria.org/sheets/23755?lang=he


Consider the possibility presented in the protocols that by establishing in the minds of many Jewish doctrine (Torah/Old Testament), over centuries and then with Scofield bibles and Zionist mind control, gradually, many have been misled to put Judaism up on a pedestal, even when their doctrine clearly shows such hostility toward non-Jews.

Inconvenient facts.
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This topic is not one I like but I feel the urgent need to bring it into awareness. Before analyzing the protocols, I want to again clarify that the so-called “Jews” who run so much of America (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=821) and other nations, are not authentic Jews but only use the name, “Jew” to promote their plans and benefits. Nobody dares question them for fear of being shamed as “anti-semetic” - even when there are evils promoted like abortion, homosexual corruption, unjust wars, poison in our food, attacks of our constitutional rights, controlling political moves like this unconstitutional and immoral quarantine etc.
  • Revelation 2:9
    “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.”
  • Revelation 3:9
    “Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.”
If you’ve had the opportunity of being called names like “homophobic bigoted hater” simply for stating FACTS some don’t like, you might see similarities in calling someone “anti-semetic” simply for stating FACTS some don’t like. The fact that some use shaming threat of “anti-semitism” to silence or discredit truth, indicates a perfect hiding spot for deceptive evil to continue without resistance.

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This Jewish man in the clip below, who actually practices Judaism, has, as others like others like him have, been called “anti-semetic” simply because he sees UK/US fake Jews stealing the land from & harming Palestinians as against what Judaism teaches. Again, realize that the people who use Judaism for evil are NOT authentic Jews.
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Thinker wrote: April 10th, 2020, 3:56 pm
inho wrote: April 10th, 2020, 2:33 pmInteresting that you quote Wikipedia but don't even mention that the page... begins with declaring them hoax:
As I mentioned, the Protocols could be baseless, but they could also be legitimate - or a mix of both. It’s a debatable issue with arguments on both sides.

Both sides seem biased so it’s a bit difficult to see what is objectively true, without comparing it to world events. I plan to go through the Protocols to see what may have already been fulfilled (as Ford said years ago) and what seems way off. I would appreciate help - input - from anyone who is knowledgeable about the Protocols &/or referenced world events.

Actually, I previously began studying both sides (though again, I think comparing the actual text with world events will be most insightful)...

Wikipedia says discredited but it’s discredited by one who supports the elite/elders/Zionists/fake Jews/ “Aligarchy” (rule of few). There seems to be no specific reason given as to support them being a hoax. If you know of one, please share.

Flaws of forgery claim: may have borrowed from a play “Dialogues in hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu (1864),” which contested freedom against tyranny, but they also diverge.
https://www.savethemales.ca/000298.html

“My only comment regarding the protocols is that they happen to fit exactly what is going on" - H. Ford (Autos, not US Pres)

“In 1924, Ford decided to focus on a Jewish plot to control America’s farm-food distribution system. He began with an article with the catchy title of “Jewish Exploitation of the American Farmer's Organizations: Monopoly Traps Operate Under the Guise of Marketing Associations," which explored the alleged conspiracy of Jewish farmers, lawyers, merchants and others behind the cooperative agricultural system.

At the heart of this conspiracy was Aaron Sapiro (1854-1959), a former rabbinical student-turned-California lawyer who had been highly successful in organizing farm cooperatives, first in his state and later nationally. Sapiro’s program intended to eliminate middlemen in the sale of agricultural produce and guarantee higher revenues for producers, and by 1925, nearly 900,000 American farmers were participating in it. According to the Independent, the Sapiro Plan had "turned millions away from the pockets of the men who till the soil and into the hands of the Jews and their followers.

This was too much for the headstrong Sapiro, and he decided to sue the business titan for libel. He sought a reward of $1 million, a large sum at the time and one that made for splashy headlines.

After more than two years of preliminary legal procedures, the Sapiro suit came to trial in Detroit in March 1927. Leading Ford’s defense was James A. Reed, a serving U.S. senator from Missouri. The climax of the trial was to be the appearance on the witness stand of none other than Henry Ford himself, who had been subpoenaed by Sapiro. The night before his scheduled testimony, Ford was in a mysterious automobile accident, in which his car was supposedly pushed off the road and into a gulley by a Studebaker. After being rushed to Henry Ford Hospital, in Detroit, he turned out to be only mildly bruised, but as his attending doctor told a reporter, it was the “shock of the mishap” that mattered.

Ford’s appearance on the stand was thus delayed, and in the meantime his lawyers began grilling Sapiro on the stand. It was at this stage that the Ford defense team alleged that Sapiro’s attorneys had tried to buy off a juror. The juror had spoken to a reporter, and the accusations made big headlines. The judge declared a mistrial.

A new trial was announced for September. Before it could commence, however, Ford’s people secretly made contact with Louis Marshall, a prominent Jewish attorney and one of the founders of the American Jewish Committee. Marshall had long been troubled by Ford’s public anti-Semitism, and he challenged him publicly on it, with little success. Now, however, Ford asked Marshall to draw up a letter of apology and explanation for him to sign. In it Ford was to ask for forgiveness for having published the “Protocols,” which he acknowledged, "have been demonstrated, as I learn, to be gross forgeries."

It shows us the Jewish banking monopoly, the preponderance and influence in the world press, in diplomacy, in the theater industry, in the film industry, in "popular music", where passion lost itself and gave way to pure materialism and the constant need for make money. All this is accompanied by criticism of materialism and the futility of worldly life.”
“Reprint of 1920 Edition This book is a reprint of the first and most important volume of The International Jew. The International Jew is a four volume set of booklets or pamphlets originally published and distributed in the early 1920s by Henry Ford in his newspaper, the Dearborn Independent. The first volume of the series, The International Jew, The World's Foremost Problem is published herein. It is a compilation consisting of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion as the main and most important source.”

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium ... -1.5296102

Henry Ford wrote, "The International Jew" (All 80 chapters: https://archive.org/details/TheInternat ... 3/mode/2up)...court Jewish agriculture lawyer sued Ford for a million & Jew caught secretly persuading juror. Seems Ford was bullied -almost killed in car accident... Ford signed apology letter.

MONSANTO Family Were
Jewish Slave Dealers And Owners
https://rense.com/general76/ssje.htm

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Charles Lindbergh (aviator & author) spoke out against Jewish/British & Roosevelt administration ulterior motives to get US into WW2 (his 9 min speech at bottom)
https://www.europeandefenceleague.com/2 ... o-in-1941/

Charles Lindbergh (a bit of a white racist?)... “valiantly fought the creation of the Federal Reserve and its attendant gestapo IRS, and Lindbergh knew that there was one "element" in our society -- the "international" Jew -- who yearned for another war with Germany.

Charles’ baby kidnapped & murdered (by Jewish mob?)
https://educate-yourself.org/cn/Jewish- ... ep15.shtml


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Thinker wrote: April 11th, 2020, 9:25 am
utez wrote: April 10th, 2020, 9:11 pm...there was a time... when every new general authority was given a copy of the protocols...

I agree with Ford. Look at what has happened in the world since they were written and compare that to what was written. Then look at who "runs" some of the major pillars of Babylon: pornography, media, Hollywood, banking, opioids, neoconservatism, etc. Some dare call it conspiracy.
Interesting about church leaders having the protocols - thanks.
A lot of America is run by or influenced by so-called Jews. And it seems other countries as well...
https://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studie ... _world.htm


To be CRYSTAL CLEAR, yet again, I want to emphasize that the so-called-Jews who support evil like abortion, homosexuality, financial corruption etc., are not truly Jewish. To be clear, I don’t want to promote prejudice. Some may suggest this discussion as inching toward the holocaust, but no. We are discussing behavior hurting many which may stem from a plan. This plan seems to have included the holocaust as both shaming anyone who dare question their evil acts, & stifling good Jews ... “THEIR ANTI-SEMITISM IS INDISPENSABLE TO US FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF OUR LESSER BRETHREN.”

It is like an evil secret club which has different races, so one cannot look at a person and say, “That’s an aligarchy (rule of few).” And I don’t subscribe to hating or loving any president - they seem to be puppets who do what others want.

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The reason for this thread is to explore what may be our main enemy. Actually the enemy may be ignorance. It seems the enemy counts on us being “stupid” and going along with their plan without question. So let’s question and educate ourselves.


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pho·to·syn·the·sis wrote: April 11th, 2020, 9:57 am
And it seems other countries as well...
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Interesting that those who were highly influential in the rise and "career" of Chairman Mao, had names that could of come from a Tel Aviv phone book.
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Thinker wrote: April 11th, 2020, 10:24 am The Protocols of the Learned
Elders of Zion


Table of Contents

Preface/Intro/Who are the Elders?
Protocol I - The Basic Doctrine
Protocol II - Economic Wars
Protocol III - Methods of Conquest
Protocol IV - Materialism Replaces Religion
Protocol V - Despotism and Modern Progress

Protocol VI - Take-Over Technique
Protocol VII - World-Wide Wars
Protocol VIII - Provisional Government
Protocol IX - Re-education

Protocol X - Preparing for Power
Protocol XI - The Totalitarian State
Protocol XII - Control of the Press
Protocol XIII - Distractions
Protocol XIV - Assault on Religion

Protocol XV - Ruthless Suppression
Protocol XVI - Brainwashing
Protocol XVII - Abuse of Authority
Protocol XVIII - Arrest of Opponents
Protocol XIX - Rulers and People

Protocol XX - Financial Programme
Protocol XXI - Loans and Credit
Protocol XXII - Power of Gold
Protocol XXIII - Instilling Obedience
Protocol XXIV - Qualities of the Ruler

https://archive.org/stream/TheProtocols ... n_djvu.txt
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Thinker wrote: April 11th, 2020, 11:33 am Quoting parts (link to full text below)...

Preface:

“The author of this translation (Victor E. Marsden) of the famous Protocols was himself a victim of the Revolution. He had lived for many years in Russia and was married to a Russian lady. He...[was] a Russian
Correspondent of the MORNING POST... when the Revolution broke out, and his vivid descriptions of events in Russia will still be in the recollection of many of the readers of that Journal. Naturally he was singled out for the anger of the Soviet... Victor Marsden was arrested and thrown into the Peter-Paul Prison... eventually he was allowed to return to England very much of a wreck in bodily health”
... where he worked on the translation.

Introduction:

”The book in which they (the Protocols) are embodied was first published in the year 1897 by Philip Stepanov for private circulation among his intimate friends. The first time Nilus published them was in
1901 in a book called The Great Within the Small and reprinted in 1905. A copy of this is in the British Museum bearing the date of its reception, August 10, 1906. All copies that were known to exist in Russia were destroyed in the Kerensky regime, and under his successors the possession of a copy by anyone in Soviet land was a crime sufficient to ensure the owner's of being shot on sight...

In this instance, "Protocol" means minutes of the proceedings of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion. These Protocols give the substance of addresses delivered to the innermost circle of the Rulers of Zion. They reveal the converted plan of action of the Jewish Nation developed through the ages and edited by the Elders themselves up to date...

The presumption is strong that the Protocols were issued, or reissued, at the First Zionist Congress held at Basle in 1897 under the presidency of the Father of Modern Zionism, the late Theodore Herzl.
There has been recently published a volume of Herzl's "Diaries,"...

Dr. Ehrenpreis, Chief Rabbi of Sweden, said in 1924, concerning the Protocols: "Long have I been well acquainted with the contents of the Protocols, indeed for many years before they were ever published in the Christian press. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion were in point of fact not the original Protocols at all, but a compressed extract of the same. Of the 70 Elders of Zion, in the matter of origin and of the existence of the original Protocols, there are only ten men in the entire world who know.

I participated with Dr. Herzl in the first Zionist Congress which was held in Basle in 1897. Herzl was the most prominent figure at the Jewish World Congress. Herzl foresaw, twenty years before we experienced them, the revolution which brought the Great War, and he prepared us for that which was to happen. He foresaw the splitting up of Turkey, that England would obtain control of Palestine. We may expect important developments in the world."

The present successor of Herzl, as leader of the Zionist movement, Dr. Weizmann...[said in a banquet speech...]
"A beneficent protection which God has instituted in the life of the Jew is that He has dispersed him all over the world. " (JEWISH GUARDIAN, Oct. 8, 1920.)

Now compare this with the last clause of but one of Protocol XI.

"God has granted to us, His Chosen People, the gift of dispersion, and from this, which appears to all eyes to be our weakness, has come forth all our strength, which has now brought us to the threshold of sovereignty over all the world."

...the desire for a "National Home" in Palestine is only camouflage and an infinitesimal part of the Jew's real object. It proves that the Jews of the world have no intention of settling in Palestine or any separate country, and that their annual prayer that they may all meet "Next Year in Jerusalem " is merely a piece of their characteristic make-believe.


WHO ARE THE ELDERS?

This is a secret which has not been revealed. They are the Hidden Hand. They are not the "Board of Deputies " (the Jewish Parliament in England) or the "Universal Israelite Alliance" which sits in Paris...

The late Walter Rathenau of the Allgemeiner Electricitaets Gesellschaft [wrote]...
"Three hundred men, each of whom knows all the others, govern the fate of the European continent, and they elect their successors from their entourage."

1848, Benjamin Disraeli, whose real name was Israel, and who was a "damped, " or baptized Jew, published his novel, CONINGSBY, in which occurs this ominous passage:
"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."
And he went on to show that these personages were all Jews.

There are two words in this translation which are unusual, the word "AGENTUR" and "political" used as a substantive. AGENTUR appears to be a word adopted from the original and it means the whole body of agents and agencies made use of by the Elders, whether members of the tribe or their Gentile tools. By "the Political"... not exactly the "body politic" but the entire machinery of politics...

The Symbolic Snake of Judaism: In his Epilogue to the 1905 Edition of the Protocols, Nilus gives the following interesting account of this symbol:
"According to the records of secret Jewish Zionism, Solomon and other Jewish learned men already, in 929 B.C., thought out a scheme in theory for a peaceful conquest of the whole universe by Zion... with the slyness of the Symbolic Snake, whose head was to represent those who have been initiated into the plans of the Jewish administration, and the body of the Snake to represent the Jewish people - the administration was always kept secret, EVEN FROM THE JEWISH NATION ITSELF. As this Snake penetrated into the hearts of the nations which it encountered it undermined and devoured all the non- Jewish power of these States. It is foretold that the Snake has still to finish its work, strictly adhering to the designed plan, until the course which it has to run is closed by the return of its head to Zion and until, by this means, the Snake has completed its round of Europe and has encircled it - and until, by dint of enchaining Europe, it has encompassed the whole world. This it is to accomplish by using every endeavor to subdue the other countries by an ECONOMICAL CONQUEST...

A map of the course of the Symbolic Snake is shown as follows: - Its first stage in Europe was in 429 B.C. in Greece, where, about the time of Pericles, the Snake first started eating into the power of that country. The second stage was in Rome in the time of Augustus, about 69 B.C.. The third in Madrid in the time of Charles V, in A.D. 1552. The
fourth in Paris about 1 790, in the time of Louis XVI. The fifth in London from 1814 onwards (after the downfall of Napoleon). The sixth in Berlin in 1871 after the Franco- Prussian war. The seventh in St. Petersburg, over which is drawn the head of the Snake under the date of 1881. [This "Snake" is now being drawn through the Americas and in the United States of America, it has been partially identified as the "Council on Foreign Relations" (C.F.R.) and the "Trilateral Commission"]...

The term "Goyim, " meaning Gentile or non-JeAvs, is used throughout the Protocols...”

https://archive.org/stream/TheProtocols ... n_djvu.txt

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Thinker wrote: April 13th, 2020, 3:46 pm Again just quoting parts... I may insert images or notes in red.

”PROTOCOL No. 1

2. What I am about to set forth, then, is our system from the two points of view, that of ourselves and that of the GOYIM [i.e., non-Jews].

3. It must be noted that men with bad instincts are more in number than the good, and therefore the best results in governing them are attained by violence and terrorisation, and not by academic discussions.

Consider the US Involvement in wars/violence/terrorism.

6. Political freedom is an idea but not a fact. This idea one must know how to apply whenever it appears necessary with this bait of an idea to attract the masses of the people to one's party for the purpose of crushing another who is in authority. This task is rendered easier if the opponent has himself been infected with the idea of freedom, SO-CALLED LIBERALISM, and, for the sake of an idea, is willing to yield some of his power. It is precisely here that the triumph of our theory appears; the slackened reins of government are immediately, by the law of life, caught up and gathered together by a new hand, because the blind might of the nation cannot for one single day exist without guidance, and the new authority merely fits into the place of the old already weakened by liberalism.

WE SHALL END LIBERTY

25. Far back in ancient times we were the first to cry among the masses of the people the words "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity," words many times repeated since these days by stupid poll-parrots who, from all sides around, flew down upon these baits and with them carried away the well-being of the world, true freedom of the individual, formerly so well guarded against the pressure of the mob. The would-be wise men of the GOYIM, the intellectuals, could not make anything out of the uttered words in their abstractedness; did not see that in nature there is no equality, cannot be freedom: that Nature herself has established inequality of minds, of characters, and capacities, just as immutably as she has established subordination to her laws: never stopped to think that the mob is a blind thing...

”Freedom” to choose to kill one’s baby (abortion), “freedom” to parade and force others to accept sexual disorders... while ignoring responsibilities and others’ rights. Victim mentality illogically demanding equality while seeking superiority. True that nature discriminates & is not equal, yet people can choose to act morally or not.

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10... Men in masses and the men of the masses, being guided solely by petty passions, paltry beliefs, traditions and sentimental theorems, fall a prey to party dissension, which hinders any kind of agreement even on the basis of a perfectly reasonable argument.
20... Can they defend themselves from an external foe? It is unthinkable; for a plan broken up into as many parts as there are heads in the mob, loses all homogeneity, and thereby becomes unintelligible and impossible of execution.

False dichotomy 2-party system, us-vs-them/polarized thinking, divided we fall.

16. Out of the temporary evil we are now compelled to commit will emerge the good of an unshakable rule, which will restore the regular course of the machinery of the national life, brought to naught by liberalism. The result justifies the means. Let us, however, in our plans, direct our attention not so much to what is good and moral as to what is necessary and useful.

This reminds me of the utopian-sounding goals written in the Georgia Guidestones (written in various languages including Hebrew), including reducing the global population to under 500 million.

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17. Before us is a plan in which is laid down strategically the line from which we cannot deviate without running the risk of seeing the labour of many centuries brought to naught.

Seems to be a very long-term plan. If so, though it may keep some main goals, details have likely been modified according to how it has played out.

18... It must be understood that the might of a mob is blind, senseless and un-reasoning force ever at the mercy of a suggestion from any side.

When in mobs, people do things they’d never do on their own. This, I believe is the greatest threat, but it also means it can be our greatest hope - if enough people think for themselves or at least think in more logically moral ways.

28. The abstraction of freedom has enabled us to persuade the mob in all countries that their government is nothing but the steward of the people who are the owners of the country, and that the steward may be replaced like a worn-out glove.

29. It is this possibility of replacing the representatives of the people which has placed at our disposal, and, as it were, given us the power of appointment.

It doesn’t matter who’s president or which party dominates congress - these are just temporary puppets. Under each administration, for many years, money given to the state of Israel has increased and is much more than all other foreign aid combined. And each administration has increased debt and continued war - actions speak louder than words.


https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przio ... %20No.%201

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Thinker wrote: April 14th, 2020, 8:40 am ”PROTOCOL No. 2

1... war will thus be brought on to the economic ground, where the nations will not fail to perceive in the assistance we give the strength of our predominance, and this state of things will put both sides at the mercy of our international AGENTUR...

Covid is less harmful than seasonal flu, so why this unnecessary quarantine that is causing economic harm? Who is pulling the strings?

2. The administrators, whom we shall choose from among the public, with strict regard to their capacities for servile obedience, will not be persons trained in the arts of government, and will therefore easily become pawns in our game in the hands of men of learning and genius who will be their advisers, specialists bred and reared from early childhood to rule the affairs of the whole world...

...we are constantly, by means of our press, arousing a blind confidence in these theories. The intellectuals of the GOYIM will puff themselves up with their knowledge and without any logical verification of them will put into effect all the information available from science, which our AGENTUR specialists have cunningly pieced together for the purpose of educating their minds in the direction we want.

Some would rather vote for someone who’s not a politician because they’re more honest - but maybe the game calls for lying/deception and ruthlessly either kicks out those who don’t play along or gets them to play along.

DESTRUCTIVE EDUCATION
5... there is a great force that creates the movement of thought in the people, and that is the Press. The part played by the Press is to keep pointing out requirements supposed to be indispensable, to give voice to the complaints of the people, to express and to create discontent...

Through the Press we have gained the power to influence while remaining ourselves in the shade; thanks to the Press we have got the GOLD in our hands, notwithstanding that we have had to gather it out of the oceans of blood and tears. But it has paid us, though we have sacrificed many of our people. Each victim on our side is worth in the sight of God a thousand GOYIM.

Six Jewish Companies Control 96% of the World’s Media
http://tapnewswire.com/2015/10/six-jewi ... lds-media/

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Thinker wrote: April 14th, 2020, 11:12 am ”PROTOCOL No. 3

3... A little more, and disorders and bankruptcy will be universal . . .

5... no other profit out of the constitution save only those pitiful crumbs which we fling them from our table in return for their voting in favour of what we dictate, in favour of the men we place in power, the servants of our AGENTUR . . .

Homosexuality was defined as a disorder until lobbyists bullied their way into APA meetings. Appointed Supreme Court justices unconstitutionally decreed to change the definition of marriage to include homosexuality - despite people voting against it.

The 8 Jewish justices who made the US Supreme Court jump

https://www.timesofisrael.com/the-8-jew ... ourt-jump/

8. By want and the envy and hatred which it engenders we shall move the mobs and with their hands we shall wipe out all those who hinder us on our way.

9. WHEN THE HOUR STRIKES FOR OUR SOVEREIGN LORD OF ALL THE WORLD TO BE CROWNED IT IS THESE SAME HANDS WHICH WILL SWEEP AWAY EVERYTHING THAT MIGHT BE A HINDRANCE THERETO. (The Biblical "Anti-Christ?")

10. The GOYIM have lost the habit of thinking unless prompted by the suggestions of our specialists. Therefore they do not see the urgent necessity of what we, when our kingdom comes, shall adopt at once...

Wow - Herd mentality may be the “anti-Christ”!

11. THIS HATRED WILL BE STILL FURTHER MAGNIFIED BY THE EFFECTS of an ECONOMIC CRISES, which will stop dealing on the exchanges and bring industry to a standstill. We shall create by all the secret subterranean methods open to us and with the aid of gold, which is all in our hands, A UNIVERSAL ECONOMIC CRISES WHEREBY WE SHALL THROW UPON THE STREETS WHOLE MOBS OF WORKERS SIMULTANEOUSLY IN ALL THE COUNTRIES OF EUROPE. These mobs will rush delightedly to shed the blood of those whom, in the simplicity of their ignorance, they have envied from their cradles, and whose property they will then be able to loot.”

I just watched a little documentary about a man and wife who had been first responders and had seen people acting crazy after disasters - looting etc, and decided to use their retirement to go off the grid and otherwise prepare so they would be fine if the economy collapsed. Though a bit extreme, they may be wise.

https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przio ... %20No.%201

Generally, I may not quote repeat ideas, to keep it more concise.

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Thinker wrote: April 14th, 2020, 12:16 pm ”PROTOCOL No. 4

2. Who and what is in a position to overthrow an invisible force? And this is precisely what our force is. GENTILE masonry blindly serves as a screen for us and our objects, but the plan of action of our force, even its very abiding-place, remains for the whole people an unknown mystery.

Freemasonry rituals are that which lds temple endowments are based. Joseph Smith seemed to be 33rd degree in Freemasonry. Most lower Freemasons seem to not realize some of what higher degree Freemasons do...

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WE SHALL DESTROY GOD

3. But even freedom might be harmless and have its place in the State economy without injury to the well-being of the peoples if it rested upon the foundation of faith in God, upon the brotherhood of humanity, unconnected with the conception of equality, which is negatived by the very laws of creation, for they have established subordination. With such a faith as this a people might be governed by a wardship of parishes, and would walk contentedly and humbly under the guiding hand of its spiritual pastor submitting to the dispositions of God upon earth. This is the reason why IT IS INDISPENSABLE FOR US TO UNDERMINE ALL FAITH, TO TEAR OUT OF THE MIND OF THE "GOYIM" THE VERY PRINCIPLE OF GOD-HEAD AND THE SPIRIT, AND TO PUT IN ITS PLACE ARITHMETICAL CALCULATIONS AND MATERIAL NEEDS.

4. In order to give the GOYIM no time to think and take note, their minds must be diverted towards industry and trade.

5... created, disenchanted, cold and heartless communities. Such communities will foster a strong aversion towards the higher political and towards religion. Their only guide is gain, that is Gold, which they will erect into a veritable cult, for the sake of those material delights which it can give.”

God is our hope, our strength and freedom! Turning to lusts of praises of men and materialism over God will likely contribute to our downfall. Resist this temptation - and seek to know, trust and do the will of God only, even when it’s unpopular or requires sacrifice.

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Thinker wrote: April 22nd, 2020, 2:28 pm Although this was news from 1976, & probably would never even get printed today, it’s pertinent:

”The Embassy of Uganda in Canada has distributed to Canadian newspapers a press release extolling the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion.”...

“You cannot understand Zionism without reading the Protocols of Zion. This book has been called the greatest lie in history. It has also been called the greatest truth in history. It is both.” The release adds that to ensure Israel’s survival the Zionists are plotting “to gain decisive influence over American economic, social, political and military affairs.”

https://www.jta.org/1976/03/31/archive/ ... rs-of-zion

How could it be both the greatest lie and truth? Maybe because people posing as Jews actually hate authentic Jews (ironically calling them anti-semetic) but use the name (lie) and seem to implement some true Judaic doctrine from the Talmud as such disdain is shown in both for “goyum” (non-Jews).

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Thinker wrote: April 22nd, 2020, 6:06 pm ”PROTOCOL No. 5

“We shall create an intensified centralization of government in order to grip in our hands all the forces of the community. We shall regulate mechanically all the actions of the political life of our subjects by new laws. These laws will withdraw one by one all the indulgences and liberties which have been permitted by the GOYIM, and our kingdom will be distinguished by a despotism of such magnificent proportions as to be at any moment and in every place in a position to wipe out any GOYIM who oppose us by deed or word...

...THE NATIONS CANNOT COME TO EVEN AN INCONSIDERABLE PRIVATE AGREEMENT WITHOUT OUR SECRETLY HAVING A HAND IN IT... And it was said by the prophets that we were chosen by God Himself to rule over the whole earth...
All the wheels of the machinery of all States go by the force of the engine, which is in our hands...

BY ALL THESE MEANS WE SHALL SO WEAR DOWN THE "GOYIM" THAT THEY WILL BE COMPELLED TO OFFER US INTERNATIONAL POWER OF A NATURE THAT BY ITS POSITION WILL ENABLE US WITHOUT ANY VIOLENCE GRADUALLY TO ABSORB ALL THE STATE FORCES OF THE WORLD AND TO FORM A SUPER-GOVERNMENT.”
Kind of like the UN (United Nations)? UN also refers to countries as “states.”

It seems the UN (with British & US help) illegally and immorally established the state of Israel, yet condemned Zionism (in word) while actions show supporting Zionism.

“1948, President Harry Truman helped persuade the United Nations to recognize Israel as a nation. Since then, the United States has contributed billions of dollars in aid to Israel.”

United Nations Resolution 181, resolution passed by the United Nations (UN) General Assembly in 1947 that called for the partition of Palestine into Arab and Jewish states, with the city of Jerusalem as a corpus separatum (Latin: “separate entity”) to be governed by a special international regime. The resolution—which was considered by the Jewish community in Palestine to be a legal basis for the establishment of Israel, and which was rejected by the Arab community—was succeeded almost immediately by violence.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/United ... lution-181

“United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379, adopted on 10 November 1975 by a vote of 72 to 35, "determine[d] that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination".

“United Nations resolutions concerning Israel. As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by the United Nations Human Rights Council. Since the creation of the Council in 2006, it has resolved (often turned a blind eye to) almost more resolutions (eg: 1988 April 20: Resolution 43/233: Expressing shock over killing of Palestinian civilians in Nahalin)
condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined...

The United States responded to the frequent criticism from UN organs by adopting the Negroponte doctrine of opposing any Security Council resolutions criticizing Israel that did not also denounce Palestinian militant activity.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... ing_Israel


“...peoples looked upon kings on their thrones as on a pure manifestation of the will of God, they submitted without a murmur... but from the day when we insinuated into their minds the conception of their own rights they began to regard the occupants of thrones as mere ordinary mortals.
...and when we also robbed them of their faith in God the might of power was flung upon the streets into the place of public proprietorship and was seized by us.”
They seek sheep (beasts to be their property) who blindly follow someone as if or over following God... like “follow the prophet.”

“...no rivals, any more than we have either in the drawing up of plans of political actions and solidarity. In this respect the Jesuits alone might have compared with us, but we have contrived to discredit them in the eyes of the unthinking mob as an overt organization, while we ourselves all the while have kept our secret organization in the shade...
Who would suspect Jews? We have been carefully taught to adore them - to lift them up on pedestals, to blindly support the horrors that have been committed in the name of “Zionism” and establishing the state of Israel.

“As the Palestinians push for statehood recognition this week at the United Nations, perhaps no group has spoken out more against the gambit - or has been more outspokenly supportive of Israel - than Christian Zionists...

Some prominent Christian Zionists promote the idea that the Jews’ return to Israel, which became a Jewish state in 1948, is a sign of the fast-approaching Rapture, when the righteous will ascend to heaven while others are left behind.”
https://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/ ... n-zionism/

The Zionist-Created Scofield ‘Bible’
Why Judeo-Christians Support War
http://themillenniumreport.com/2018/02/ ... eld-bible/


“Nowadays it is more important to disarm the peoples than to lead them into war...”
There have been many attempts to deny our Constitutional 2nd amendment right to bear arms.

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“THE PRINCIPLE OBJECT OF OUR DIRECTORATE CONSISTS IN THIS: TO DEBILITATE THE PUBLIC MIND BY CRITICISM; TO LEAD IT AWAY FROM SERIOUS REFLECTIONS CALCULATED TO AROUSE RESISTANCE; TO DISTRACT THE FORCES OF THE MIND TOWARDS A SHAM FIGHT OF EMPTY ELOQUENCE.”
Pacifying media including ”Q/Qanon” seems to be this eloquent distraction, so that while we are incrementally led to deceptive house arrests and economic collapse, “good men do nothing.”

“We shall assume to ourselves the liberal physiognomy of all parties...
Both sides help their cause: democrats for supporting abortion, lgbtq, “climate change” excuses & Republicans for supporting the unlawful occupation of Israel, Jews/semitism, & unjust wars.

“THERE IS NOTHING MORE DANGEROUS THAN PERSONAL INITIATIVE: if it has genius behind it, such initiative can do more than can be done by millions of people among whom we have sown discord... We must so direct the education of the GOYIM communities that whenever they come upon a matter requiring initiative they may drop their hands in despairing impotence.“
Educating oneself is so important! Think for oneself! ”Many are called but few are chosen” because most seek praises of men over God. Most follow the herd rather than take initiative. But what power one can have if they are doing God’s will and getting God’s support!



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Thinker wrote: April 22nd, 2020, 6:24 pm ”PROTOCOL No. 6
In every possible way we must develop the significance of our Super-Government by representing it as the Protector and Benefactor of all those who voluntarily submit to us.”
UN

“...as landed proprietors they can still be harmful to us from the fact that they are self-sufficing in the resources upon which they live. It is essential therefore for us at whatever cost to deprive them of their land...”
The UN seeks to take inventory of the world and there is concern regarding personal property. Let’s keep watchful.

“IN ORDER THAT THE TRUE MEANING OF THINGS MAY NOT STRIKE THE "GOYIM" BEFORE THE PROPER TIME WE SHALL MASK IT UNDER AN ALLEGED ARDENT DESIRE TO SERVE THE WORKING CLASSES AND THE GREAT PRINCIPLES OF POLITICAL ECONOMY ABOUT WHICH OUR ECONOMIC THEORIES ARE CARRYING ON AN ENERGETIC PROPAGANDA.”
So many laws with sneaky harmful strings attached.


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Thinker wrote: April 22nd, 2020, 6:40 pm “PROTOCOL No. 7

The intensification of armaments, the increase of police forces—are all essential for the completion of the aforementioned plans.”

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“...we shall tangle up all the threads which we have stretched into the cabinets of all States by means of the political, by economic treaties, or loan obligations...

GOYIM, whom we have taught to look only at the outside whatever we present to their notice, will still continue to accept us as the benefactors and saviours of the human race.”

Appearances are deceiving. Practice discernment.

“Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, comes an exposé of international corruption, and an inspired plan to turn the tide for future generations”
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/215 ... ic_Hit_Man


“...We must compel the governments of the GOYIM to take action in the direction favoured by our widely conceived plan, already approaching the desired consummation, by what we shall represent as public opinion, secretly promoted by us through the means of that so-called "Great Power"—THE PRESS, WHICH, WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS THAT MAY BE DISREGARDED, IS ALREADY ENTIRELY IN OUR HANDS.”

”Six Jewish Companies Control 96% of the World's Media”
http://tapnewswire.com/2015/10/six-jewi ... lds-media/


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Thinker wrote: April 22nd, 2020, 6:53 pm “PROTOCOL No. 8

...shall seem to be the most exalted moral principles cast into legal form.

(Genocide Convention? U.N. Declaration of the Rights of the Child?)

“Our directorate must surround itself with all these forces of civilization among which it will have to work. It will surround itself with publicists, practical jurists, administrators, diplomats and, finally, with persons prepared by a special super-educational training IN OUR SPECIAL SCHOOLS

(Rhodes Scholars? London School of Economics?)”

“For a time, until there will no longer be any risk in entrusting responsible posts in our State to our brother-Jews, we shall put them in the hands of persons whose past and reputation are such that between them and the people lies an abyss, persons who, in case of disobedience to our instructions, must face criminal charges or disappear—this in order to make them defend our interests to their last gasp.”

”THE JEWISH MAFIA – THE GREAT INTERNATIONAL PREDATORS”
https://barnesreview.org/product/the-jewish-mafia/


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Thinker wrote: April 22nd, 2020, 7:13 pm “PROTOCOL No. 9

Nowadays, if any States raise a protest against us it is only PROFORMA at our discretion and by our direction, for THEIR ANTI-SEMITISM IS INDISPENSABLE TO US FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF OUR LESSER BRETHREN.”

"To what extent the whole existence of this people is based on a continuous lie is shown incomparably by the Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion...." --Adolph Hitler

(Anti-Semitism is a mechanism devised and controlled by World Jewry).


“We have got our hands into the administration of the law, into the conduct of elections, into the press, into liberty of the person, BUT PRINCIPALLY INTO EDUCATION AND TRAINING...
WE HAVE FOOLED, BEMUSED AND CORRUPTED THE YOUTH OF THE "GOYIM" BY REARING THEM IN PRINCIPLES AND THEORIES WHICH ARE KNOWN TO US TO BE FALSE ALTHOUGH IT IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN INCULCATED.”

Link previously posted about this. In looking through multiple public school text books, I definitely see history written in biased ways. And I worry about subtle lies (1/2 truths) being taught to children regarding history, homosexuality, and a lack of teaching regarding critical thinking (logical fallacies abound in media) & Constitutional rights.


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Thinker wrote: April 22nd, 2020, 7:54 pm PROTOCOL No. 10

“OUR GOAL – WORLD POWER

We count upon attracting all nations to the task of erecting the new fundamental structure, the project for which has been drawn up by us...
WE ARE DESTROYING THE CAUSES OF YOUR TORMENT—NATIONALITIES, FRONTIERS, DIFFERENCES OF COINAGES.

Cashless society? Surveillance, tracking all we do already. Chinese social credit system.
  • ”Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.” -Revelation 13


“...we shall destroy among the GOYIM the importance of the family and its educational value...”

No question that the family has been and a being attacked.

“These institutions have divided up among themselves all the functions of government—administrative, legislative, executive, wherefore they have come to operate as do the organs in the human body. If we injure one part in the machinery of State, the State falls sick, like a human body, and . . . will die.”

UN refers to their institutions as “organs.”
“The main organs of the UN are the General Assembly, the Security Council, the Economic and Social Council, the Trusteeship Council, the International Court of Justice, and the UN Secretariat.”
https://www.un.org/en/sections/about-un/main-organs/


“we shall establish the responsibility of presidents... our impersonal puppet...
WE SHALL INSTIGATE MINISTERS AND OTHER OFFICIALS OF THE HIGHER ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THE PRESIDENT TO EVADE HIS DISPOSITIONS BY TAKING MEASURES OF THEIR OWN, for doing which they will be made the scapegoats in his place...”

As mentioned, Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton - all puppets - seemingly especially beginning with Truman.

“By such measure we shall obtain the power of destroying little by little, step by step, all that at the outset when we enter on our rights, we are compelled to introduce into the constitutions of States to prepare for the transition to an imperceptible abolition of every kind of constitution, and then the time is come to turn every form of government into OUR DESPOTISM.”

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Thinker wrote: April 27th, 2020, 12:54 pm I’m wondering... How are the following connected or similar?

*Protocols of the ELDERS of Zion (-1903)
*LDS Church ELDERS (1830)
*CFR (1921 US Council on Foreign Relations)
*UN (1945 United Nations)
*Georgia Guide-Stones (1980)
*ICFR (1989 Israel Council on Foreign Relations)
*EU (1993 European Union - 12 stars for Judaism 12 tribes of Israel)
*ECFR (2007 European Council on Foreign Relations)

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Thinker wrote: May 6th, 2020, 2:38 pm
sushi_chef wrote: April 27th, 2020, 10:24 pm "14 But behold, the Jews were a stiffnecked people; and they despised the words of plainness, and killed the prophets, and sought for things that they could not understand. Wherefore, because of their blindness, which blindness came by looking beyond the mark, they must needs fall; for God hath taken away his plainness from them, and delivered unto them many things which they cannot understand, because they desired it. And because they desired it God hath done it, that they may stumble.
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jacob 4

"1 But, behold, in the last days, or in the days of the Gentiles—yea, behold all the nations of the Gentiles and also the Jews, both those who shall come upon this land and those who shall be upon other lands, yea, even upon all the lands of the earth, behold, they will be drunken with iniquity and all manner of abominations—
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2ne 27

sushi_ has been in the intuitiveness mode, so, ...

"did moroni mention emma smith(1804 - 79)?? answer is yes( mormon 8:40) "
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=54876

believes smith brothers assassinations(joseph hyrum and samuel) must have been executed through secret combinations based on their plots and blueprints.

and also ritual murders back then have already entered illuminati-ifiltrated upper class/degree freemasons ...

jews originated ritual murder
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDFs/Neoph ... -07-06.pdf
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/
ritual murder illuminati
https://search.yahoo.co.jp/image/search ... illuminati

the center of this photo(brigham young and company) is kinda hidden-hand postured guy..
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... y_1870.PNG

hidden hand mason
https://search.yahoo.co.jp/image/search ... 22%20mason
sanhedrin illuminati
https://search.yahoo.co.jp/search?ei=UT ... illuminati

whats happend to mr owens, any possibility lds participants to his demise??
wayne owens
search.php?keywords=wayne+owens&terms=a ... mit=Search
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I wrote a lot but it was strangely erased. I’ll try to summarize. A lot to process - thanks for sharing.

As I study this, I keep in mind that it’s possible that there is nothing to these Jewish protocols - and that other forces could be at work. Yet, so far, in my studies, the main common thread seems to be the deceptive mask of Judaism. This is so difficult for most people to even consider. Even my friends who follow “Q” and other extreme conspiracy theories - refuse to even consider the possibility of Judaism/claiming to be Jewish, being used in such evil ways. No wonder - Scofield and other Zionist propaganda mind-control has been going on over a century! It’s not only been bombarding people in media and government but also in churches. It takes a lot to forge past the cognitive dissonance.

This link below about ritual murder seems like mafia (& possibly in lds/Mormon secret combinations - if BY helped plot JS’s murder) - rare & secret - but probably exists.
http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDFs/Neoph ... -07-06.pdf

One author brought up the Talmud and how it refers to goyum (non-Jews) as animals/beasts and how it can be acceptable to kill beast in certain ways.

Interesting Freemason hidden hand sign...

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Also suspect is the meeting last September of the “Sanhedrin” with representatives of nations throughout the world to agree on Jewish Noahide rules, an international meeting seemingly to plan a one world government under Jewish law. The timing is also interesting. The brochure for the Jewish led global governing event September 2019...
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Years ago, the US President signed onto this “one world religion”...

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Regarding the likely murder of Wayne Owens in 2002 in TelAviv - it seems like Justice Scalia being found dead in his hotel room after him overstepping some cabal’s wishes - obviously looks like murder but if they control courts and other circumstances, justice will have to wait - but it will come eventually.

This reminds me of what my Muslim friend said regarding suspicious global plans and oppression...
  • ”They plan, and God plans, and God is the best of planners.”

I bring up some goodness specifying from my Muslim friend to help in establishing good-will between Christians and Muslims as it is obvious that media (& those who control it) seek to stir contention & war...

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We must not fall for that evil. Let’s rise above and love one another - and look for & find the good.

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...and not all Jews are in on this evil plan. Most are as clueless as others. Most “Jews” today are as Americans - mixed with all kinds of races and ideologies. There are few genuine Jews with direct maternal line and who practice Judaism. Those referred to in this thread may not have a drop of Judaism in body or spirit but who USE the name “Jewish” to get away with evil. These are few, and even those who do so much evil have GOoD in them. All are children of God. God loves us all & tries to get us all to repent (turn to God).


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Thinker wrote: May 7th, 2020, 9:10 am PROTOCOL No. 11

”... By these combinations I mean the freedom of the Press, the right of association, freedom of conscience, the voting principle, and many another that must disappear for ever from the memory of man, or undergo a radical alteration the day after the promulgation of the new constitution...

During this covid shutdown, we have seen 1st amendment rights be denied. Before, to a lesser degree, this also happened with anyone objecting to homosexual dysfunction.

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...There is another reason also why they will close their eyes: for we shall keep promising them to give back all the liberties we have taken away as soon as we have quelled the enemies of peace and tamed all parties...

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...It is this which has served as the basis for our organization of SECRET MASONRY WHICH IS NOT KNOWN TO, AND AIMS WHICH ARE NOT EVEN SO MUCH AS SUSPECTED BY, THESE "GOY" CATTLE, ATTRACTED BY US INTO THE "SHOW" ARMY OF MASONIC LODGES IN ORDER TO THROW DUST IN THE EYES OF THEIR FELLOWS.

8. God has granted to us, His Chosen People, the gift of the dispersion, and in this which appears in all eyes to be our weakness, has come forth all our strength, which has now brought us to the threshold of sovereignty over all the world...

Scattered (& interbreeding over centuries) but thereby having a hand in areas throughout the world.

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Thinker wrote: May 7th, 2020, 10:03 am PROTOCOL No. 12

”...We shall deal with the press in the following way: what is the part played by the press to-day? It serves to excite and inflame those passions which are needed for our purpose or else it serves selfish ends of parties. It is often vapid, unjust, mendacious, and the majority of the public have not the slightest idea what ends the press really serves. We shall saddle and bridle it with a tight curb...

...For any attempt to attack us, if such still be possible, we shall inflict fines without mercy...

Google ironically fired engineer, James Demore for sharing a study finding of which actually empowered women. “My larger point is that we have an intolerance for ideas and evidence that don’t fit a certain ideology. I’m also not saying that we should restrict people to certain gender roles; I’m advocating for quite the opposite: treat people as individuals, not as just another member of their group (tribalism).”

Damore told the Times he submitted a complaint to the National Labor Relations Board before he was fired, claiming Google’s upper management was “misrepresenting and shaming me in order to silence my complaints.” He said it is “illegal to retaliate” against a complaint made to the NLRB.
https://heavy.com/tech/2017/08/james-da ... sity-memo/

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“The Jewish entourage in Google:
The Jew Craig Silverstein was the first employee hired by Google's founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin.

The Jewish woman Susan Wojcicki was the one who gave Google office space to start the business. Susan Wojcicki has since become Vice President of Product Management at Google.

This while here likewise Jewish younger sister Anne Wojcicki, a biotechnology specialist, in May 2007 during "a traditional Jewish wedding" ceremony (according to Israeli paper Ha'aretz, May 29, 2008) married the Google President Sergey Brin. Keeping everything neatly within the tribe.”
Jewish influence in online media, including Google...
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/soci ... rnet84.htm


...NOTE THAT AMONG THOSE MAKING ATTACKS UPON US WILL ALSO BE ORGANS ESTABLISHED BY US, BUT THEY WILL ATTACK EXCLUSIVELY POINTS THAT WE HAVE PRE-DETERMINED TO ALTER...

Like Ben Shapiro - who brags about being 100% Ashkanazi Jew & says any claims that Jews control media or against the state of Israel are “anti-semitism”. Or JordanPeterson who edited Agenda for the UN & who claims Jews are smarter. Saying any group is smart or stupid is prejudice & especially when Jews are a club of people of mixed races & ideologies. It’s like saying people wearing green masks are smarter. Illogical dogma.

I still respect truth both Shapiro & Peterson have shared but I also see how they have blind spots of dogma & would never question the REAL pupeteers behind things.


...WE CONTROL THE PRESS

4. NOT A SINGLE ANNOUNCEMENT WILL REACH THE PUBLIC WITHOUT OUR CONTROL...

5. If already now we have contrived to possess ourselves of the minds of the GOY communities to such an extent they all come near looking upon the events of the world through the coloured glasses of those spectacles we are setting astride their noses; if already now there is not a single State where there exist for us any barriers to admittance into what GOY stupidity calls State secrets: what will our positions be then, when we shall be acknowledged supreme lords of the world in the person of our king of all the world . . .

We see things not as they are but as we are... especially how susceptible we are to others’ (media’s, group’s) suggestions.

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12. All our newspapers will be of all possible complexions—aristocratic, republican, revolutionary, even anarchical—for so long, of course, as the constitution exists . . . Like the Indian idol "Vishnu" they will have a hundred hands, and every one of them will have a finger on any one of the public opinions as required. When a pulse quickens these hands will lead opinion in the direction of our aims, for an excited patient loses all power of judgment and easily yields to suggestion. Those fools who will think they are repeating the opinion of a newspaper of their own camp will be repeating our opinion or any opinion that seems desirable for us. In the vain belief that they are following the organ of their party they will, in fact, follow the flag which we hang out for them...

14. THESE ATTACKS UPON US WILL ALSO SERVE ANOTHER PURPOSE, NAMELY, THAT OUR SUBJECTS WILL BE CONVINCED TO THE EXISTENCE OF FULL FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND SO GIVE OUR AGENTS AN OCCASION TO AFFIRM THAT ALL ORGANS WHICH OPPOSE US ARE EMPTY BABBLERS, since they are incapable of finding any substantial objections to our orders...

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... take only the French press, there are forms which reveal Masonic solidarity in acting on the watchword: all organs of the press are bound together by professional

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19. WHEN WE ARE IN THE PERIOD OF THE NEW REGIME TRANSITIONAL TO THAT OF OUR ASSUMPTION OF FULL SOVEREIGNTY WE MUST NOT ADMIT ANY REVELATION BY THE PRESS OF ANY FORM OF PUBLIC DISHONESTY; IT IS NECESSARY THAT THE NEW REGIME SHOULD BE THOUGHT TO HAVE SO PERFECTLY CONTENDED EVERYBODY THAT EVEN CRIMINALITY HAS DISAPPEARED . . . Cases of the manifestation of criminality should remain known only to their victims and to chance witnesses—no more...

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Thinker wrote: May 7th, 2020, 10:39 am PROTOCOL No. 13

”4. The part played by the liberals, utopian dreamers, will be finally played out when our government is acknowledged. Till such time they will continue to do us good service. Therefore we shall continue to direct their minds to all sorts of vain conceptions of fantastic theories, new and apparently progressive: for have we not with complete success turned the brainless heads of the GOYIM with progress, till there is not among the GOYIM one mind able to perceive that under this word lies a departure from truth in all cases where it is not a question of material inventions, for truth is one, and in it there is no place for progress. Progress, like a fallacious idea, serves to obscure truth so that none may know it except us, the Chosen of God, its guardians.

The UN has been accused of anti-semitism, but is it just a few voices that speak truth of Middle East injustices and then that conveniently allows people to not consider UN (which is controlled mainly by the US) as “Jewish.” The main thing is (in referencing analogy in Wizard of Oz) to keep the real man behind the curtain - hidden. ”There must needs be opposition in all things.” UN global governing goals sound so “progressive”... but with what strings attached?

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6. Who will ever suspect then that ALL THESE PEOPLES WERE STAGE-MANAGED BY US ACCORDING TO A POLITICAL PLAN WHICH NO ONE HAS SO MUCH AS GUESSED AT IN THE COURSE OF MANY CENTURIES?”

Who would’ve ever guessed? ;)



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Thinker wrote: May 7th, 2020, 10:53 am PROTOCOL No. 14

”When we come into our kingdom it will be undesirable for us that there should exist any other religion than ours of the One God with whom our destiny is bound up by our position as the Chosen People...

Noahide Jewish laws have been signed into law by various countries including the USA.

“Noahide Law is extremely biased in favor of Jewish people, providing them with special dispensations and greater legal protection against prosecution and execution than it does non-Jews (Noachids). These are the reasons why we need to Stop Noahide Law and repeal Public Law 102-14.” (Passed by US congress in 1991... symbol rainbow 7 colors - 7 laws)
https://stopnoahidelaw.blogspot.com/201 ... s.html?m=1


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WE SHALL FORBID CHRIST

5. IN COUNTRIES KNOWN AS PROGRESSIVE AND ENLIGHTENED WE HAVE CREATED A SENSELESS, FILTHY, ABOMINABLE LITERATURE.”

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Jewish Daily Forward openly admits Jews are behind homosexual & transgender movement.
http://therealistreport.com/jewish-dail ... -movement/
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Thinker wrote: May 7th, 2020, 11:47 am PROTOCOL No. 15

”...The people do not lay a finger on him who hypnotizes them by his daring and strength of mind...

He who doesn't know he's in chains & yet has keys - will never even try to free himself because he doesn’t see how he’s chained.

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SECRET SOCIETIES

4. Meantime, however, until we come into our kingdom, we shall act in the contrary way: we shall create and multiply free Masonic lodges in all the countries of the world, absorb into them all who may become or who are prominent in public activity, for these lodges we shall find our principal intelligence office and means of influence. All these lodges we shall bring under one central administration, known to us alone and to all others absolutely unknown, which will be composed of our learned elders... from whom will issue the watchword and program. In these lodges we shall tie together the knot which binds together all revolutionary and liberal elements. Their composition will be made up of all strata of society... AMONG THE MEMBERS OF THESE LODGES WILL BE ALMOST ALL THE AGENTS OF INTERNATIONAL AND NATIONAL POLICE since their service is for us irreplaceable...

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5. The class of people who most willingly enter into secret societies are those who live by their wits, careerists, and in general people, mostly light-minded, with whom we shall have no difficulty in dealing and in using to wind up the mechanism of the machine devised by us. If this world grows agitated the meaning of that will be that we have had to stir up in order to break up its too great solidarity. BUT IF THERE SHOULD ARISE IN ITS MIDST A PLOT, THEN AT THE HEAD OF THAT PLOT WILL BE NO OTHER THAN ONE OF OUR MOST TRUSTED SERVANTS. It is natural that we and no other should lead MASONIC activities, for we know whither we are leading, we know the final goal of every form of activity whereas the GOYIM have knowledge of nothing, not even of the immediate effect of action; they put before themselves, usually, the momentary reckoning of the satisfaction of their self-opinion in the accomplishment of their thought without even remarking that the very conception never belonged to their initiative but to our instigation of their thought . . .

GENTILES ARE STUPID

6. The GOYIM enter the lodges out of curiosity or in the hope by their means to get a nibble at the public pie, and some of them in order to obtain a hearing before the public for their impracticable and groundless fantasies: they thirst for the emotion of success and applause, of which we are remarkably generous. And the reason why we give them this success is to make use of the high conceit of themselves to which it gives birth, for that insensibly disposes them to assimilate our suggestions without being on their guard against them in the fullness of their confidence that it is their own infallibility which is giving utterance to their own thoughts and that it is impossible for them to borrow those of others . . . You cannot imagine to what extent the wisest of the GOYIM can be brought to a state of unconscious naivete in the presence of this condition of high conceit of themselves, and at the same time how easy it is to take the heart out of them by the slightest ill-success, though it be nothing more than the stoppage of the applause they had, and to reduce them to a slavish submission for the sake of winning a renewal of success .... BY SO MUCH AS OURS DISREGARD SUCCESS IF ONLY THEY CAN CARRY THROUGH THEIR PLANS, BY SO MUCH THE "GOYIM" ARE WILLING TO SACRIFICE ANY PLANS ONLY TO HAVE SUCCESS.

Who wants to feel special? Many even in our own church fell for the lie that they are part of the 144,000 but when you look at that parable - if taken literally - only virgin men would be allowed into heaven. It’s allegory and more importantly...
“God is no respect of persons.”
This lie that Jews are the “chosen ones” has been told by Jews! Of course they will say that. Yet...

1) God loves us all as we are ALL God’s children.
2) Few are chosen not because of God but because we let our PRIDE take precedent over God. Those who put God 1st - and do God’s will above praises of man/money/ego/pride etc - those are chosen to do God’s will. Kind of self explanatory.


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GENTILES ARE CATTLE
We have not counted the victims of the seed of the GOY cattle, though we have sacrificed many of our own... WE EXECUTE MASONS IN SUCH WISE THAT NONE SAVE THE BROTHERHOOD CAN EVER HAVE A SUSPICION OF IT, NOT EVEN THE VICTIMS THEMSELVES OF OUR DEATH SENTENCE, THEY ALL DIE WHEN REQUIRED AS IF FROM A NORMAL KIND OF ILLNESS . . . Knowing this, even the brotherhood in its turn dare not protest. By such methods we have plucked out of the midst of MASONRY the very root of protest against our disposition. While preaching liberalism to the GOY we at the same time keep our own people and our agents in a state of unquestioning submission...

JUDGES DECIDE AS WE DICTATE TO THEM...

11. In this difference in capacity for thought between the GOYIM and ourselves may be clearly discerned the seal of our position as the Chosen People and of our higher quality of humanness, in contradistinction to the brute mind of the GOYIM. Their eyes are open, but see nothing before them and do not invent (unless perhaps, material things). From this it is plain that nature herself has destined us to guide and rule the world...

Could it be that part of the twisting of scripture was to liken Christians to beasts - sheep - who are meant to submit?

This also refers to what SushiChef mentioned regarding BY having likely had a hand in the death of JS. I read that JS yelled the Freemasonry plea before he died.


...all the money in the world will be concentrated in our hands, consequently it is not our government that has to fear expense...

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They will be rejoiced that we have regulated everything in their lives as is done by wise parents who desire to train children in the cause of duty and submission...

Part of me yearns for care-free days of my childhood when most things were taken care of for me. I think the reason many look so blindly to government and church “authorities” is at least partly due to this yearning. Yet, that comes with a cost of freedom and growth.



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No worries - whenever you get the chance.

I’ve been praying about different things - including whether to continue with reading and sharing notes on these Protocols - it takes a lot of time and emotion. Not exactly fun, but I’ve felt like it’s important. Although I kind of tease about “divination tools” like bibliomancy, I still do it occasionally & after praying opened to: Ezekiel 3:17:
  • ”...I have made thee a watchman into the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.”

My patriarchal blessing says I would preach repentance to the world (www ;) ). Of course it’s humbling because like everyone else, I too need to constantly repent (aim better toward God). And frankly it’s no fun being shot as the messenger. But I feel morally obligated to warn people in hopes that even if we are the minority, in spirit there are more for us... and “all things will work together for those who love God.”

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Thinker wrote: May 11th, 2020, 10:10 am PROTOCOL No. 16

”1. In order to effect the destruction of all collective forces except ours we shall emasculate the first stage of collectivism—the UNIVERSITIES, by re-educating them in a new direction. THEIR OFFICIALS AND PROFESSORS WILL BE PREPARED FOR THEIR BUSINESS BY DETAILED SECRET PROGRAMS OF ACTION FROM WHICH THEY WILL NOT WITH IMMUNITY DIVERGE, NOT BY ONE IOTA. THEY WILL BE APPOINTED WITH ESPECIAL PRECAUTION, AND WILL BE SO PLACED AS TO BE WHOLLY DEPENDENT UPON THE GOVERNMENT.”

How in the world could university mentality get as insane as ANTIFA?

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And even non-public, lds Church/TITHING-funded/liberal-turning BYU has accepted “US” financial dependence.


WE SHALL CHANGE HISTORY

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Many public school textbooks are quite biased - especially in history (conveying warped accounts of Native Americans and a bombardment of Holocaust stories) & psychology (citing discredit stories to support homosexual lies).

...we shall swallow up and confiscate to our own use the last scintilla of independence of thought, which we have for long past been directing towards subjects and ideas useful for us. The system of bridling thought is already at work in the so-called system of teaching by OBJECT LESSONS, the purpose of which is to turn the GOYIM into unthinking submissive brutes waiting for things to be presented before their eyes in order to form an idea of them...”

So-called “Jews” have a hand in most of the world’s media. The news is so incredibly biased, once you see it, it is either disgusting or hilarious...


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I've been fascinated by this topic for about 10 years and I do believe the "Protocols" to be genuine based on my observations of the world today. Someone mentioned Henry Makow a few posts earlier. I check his website every day: ‪https://www.henrymakow.com‬

Mike Maillet
Ingleside, Ontario


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Thinker wrote: May 11th, 2020, 10:49 am PROTOCOL No. 17

”...ONLY YEARS DIVIDE US FROM THE MOMENT OF THE COMPLETE WRECKING OF THAT CHRISTIAN RELIGION... destroy the papal court the finger of an invisible hand... we shall come forward in the guise of its defenders as if to save excessive bloodshed. By this diversion we shall penetrate to its very bowels...

THE KING OF THE JEWS WILL BE THE REAL POPE OF THE UNIVERSE, THE PATRIARCH OF THE INTERNATIONAL CHURCH

”(Karl Rothschild acted as "peacemaker" between the Vatican and her enemies, loaning the Vatican five million pounds in a period of difficulty. Gregory XVI conferred a Papal decoration on Kalman Rothschild since when Rothschilds have been "Guardians of the Vatican Treasury").”

“The Jesuit Pope is very significant…. sets MOST policies on the world stage… at the UN.)
https://nationalvanguard.org/2019/08/ch ... is-jewish/


WE SHALL NOT OVERTLY LAY A FINGER ON EXISTING CHURCHES, BUT WE SHALL FIGHT AGAINST THEM BY CRITICISM CALCULATED TO PRODUCE SCHISM . . .

”The Center for Global Christianity at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, which is evangelical Protestant, estimates that there are currently 47,000 denominations”!!
And how some Christians hate one another! Why?
United we stand, divided we fall?


ONE-THIRD OF OUR SUBJECTS WILL KEEP THE REST UNDER OBSERVATION from a sense of duty, on the principle of volunteer service to the State. It will then be no disgrace to be a spy and informer, but a merit...

With the covid-anti-Constitutional shut downs etc, people have called hotlines to tattle-tell on people. Parents have then been arrested for playing with their kids at parks (in CO & ID). Our lds church is especially cultish in reporting on one another to church authorities.

...Any person not denouncing anything seen or heard concerning questions of polity will also be charged with and made responsible for concealment, if it be proved that he is guilty of this crime...
JUST AS NOWADAYS OUR BRETHREN, ARE OBLIGED AT THEIR OWN RISK TO DENOUNCE TO THE KAHAL APOSTATES OF THEIR OWN FAMILY or members who have been noticed doing anything in opposition to the KAHAL, SO IN OUR KINGDOM OVER ALL THE WORLD IT WILL BE OBLIGATORY FOR ALL OUR SUBJECTS TO OBSERVE THE DUTY OF SERVICE TO THE STATE IN THIS DIRECTION.

Like during Nazi & Soviet Union horrors.

And it’s predicted that men’s hearts will fail them & they will turn on one another. I see this already - especially in our church. We need to wake up about this & not support such evil like bullying church courts & FEAR & shaming of calling out KNOWN evil of leaders. If a prophet is misleading people, then it should be made known, as Christ made it known in his time. And no fallible human being should be followed before God.



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Thinker wrote: May 11th, 2020, 11:35 am PROTOCOL No. 18

”...we have broken the prestige of the GOY kings by frequent attempts upon their lives through our agents, blind sheep of our flock, who are easily moved by a few liberal phrases to crimes provided only they be painted in political colors...

”Blind sheep”...
“Father, Forgive them for they know not what they do.”
Ignorance is often the root of evil & pride prevents necessary learning.

Also: See previous posts about mafia.


CRIMINALS WITH US WILL BE ARRESTED AT THE FIRST, more or less, well-grounded SUSPICION: it cannot be allowed that out of fear of a possible mistake an opportunity should be given of escape to persons suspected of a political lapse of crime, for in these matters we shall be literally merciless. If it is still possible, by stretching a point, to admit a reconsideration of the motive causes in simple crimes, there is no possibility of excuse for persons occupying themselves with questions in which nobody except the government can understand anything . . . And it is not all governments that understand true policy.”

As mentioned regarding suspicious deaths of outspoken people in positions of influence, it does seem that many in such positions are under constant threat should they step out of line. I pray that they will do what’s right & be protected & helped in doing so.



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Thinker wrote: May 11th, 2020, 11:56 am PROTOCOL No. 19

”In order to destroy the prestige of heroism for political crime we shall send it for trial in the category of thieving, murder, and every kind of abominable and filthy crime. Public opinion will then confuse in its conception this category of crime with the disgrace attaching to every other and will brand it with the same contempt... This advertisement has increased the contingent of liberals and has brought thousands of GOYIM into the ranks of our livestock cattle.”

Good is twisted to appear evil, and evil - good. That is the essence of all this. I understand that this may be difficult to process. We each have been so carefully led to believe Jews are the chosen people and cannot be criticized at all or risk being called “anti-Semite.” But who has told us this? Jews! Think about what “chosen people” means. If “God is no respector of persons” - then nobody is considered more worthy than another. And if what determines if someone is chosen is if they prioritize God over praises of man - then the “chosen ones” are not based on ethnicity or religion or Jewish club but rather based on that person choosing God over praise.

In Israel, it is now against the law to even speak badly of Israel, no matter what horror is done. Christ is considered the archetype of free speech. So it seems shutting up free expression is anti-Christ.



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Thinker wrote: May 11th, 2020, 1:11 pm PROTOCOL No. 20

”...progressive tax on property...

It is suggested that property tax is unconstitutional...
http://foundationfortruthinlaw.org/prop ... -info.html


A tax increasing in a percentage ratio to capital will give much larger revenue than the present individual or property tax, which is useful to us now for the sole reason that it excites trouble and discontent among the GOYIM...
Any transfer of property, whether money or other, without evidence of payment of this tax which will be strictly registered by names, will render the former holder liable to pay interest on the tax from the moment of transfer of these sums up to the discovery of his evasion of declaration of the transfer...

”The Sixteenth Amendment (Amendment XVI) to the United States Constitution allows Congress to levy an income tax without apportioning it among the states on the basis of population. It was passed by Congress in 1909...”

WE CAUSE DEPRESSIONS...

Economic crises have been produced by us for the GOYIM by no other means than the withdrawal of money from circulation. Huge capitals have stagnated, withdrawing money from States, which were constantly obliged to apply to those same stagnant capitals for loans. These loans burdened the finances of the State with the payment of interest and made them the bond slaves of these capitals . . . The concentration of industry in the hands of capitalists out of the hands of small masters has drained away all the juices of the peoples and with them also the States...

CFR & Central Bank
“Growing up in the midst of the “Cold War,” our generation were taught that those who attempted to abolish our national sovereignty and overthrow our Constitutional government were committing acts of treason. Please judge for yourself if the group discussed is guilty of such...

That a ruling power elite does indeed control the U.S. government behind the scenes has been attested to by many americans in a position to know. Felix Frankfurter, Justice of the Supreme Court (1939-1962), said: “The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes.” In a letter to an associate dated November 21, 1933, President Franklin Roosevelt wrote, “The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
February 23, 1954, Senator William Jenner warned in a speech: “Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government, a bureaucratic elite which believes our Constitution is outmoded.”
Baron M.A. Rothschild wrote, “Give me control over a nation’s currency and I care not who makes its laws.”..

The Bank of the United States (1816-36), an early attempt at an American central bank, was abolished by President Andrew Jackson, who believed that it threatened the nation. He wrote: “The bold effort the present bank had made to control the government, the distress it had wantonly produced…are but premonitions of the fate that awaits the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it.”
Thomas Jefferson wrote: “The Central Bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the principles and form of our Constitution…if the American people allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”...

Though unconstitutional, as only “The Congress shall have Power…To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof…” (Article I, Section 8, U.S. Constitution) the Federal Reserve Act was passed in December 1913...

Although called “Federal,” the Federal Reserve system is privately owned by member banks, makes its own policies, and is not subject to oversight by Congress or the President. As the overseer and supplier of reserves, the Fed gave banks access to public funds, which enhanced their lending capacity.
Peter Kershaw, in “Economic Solutions” lists the ten major shareholders of the Federal Reserve Bank System as: Rothschild: London and Berlin; Lazard Bros: Paris; Israel Seiff: Italy; Kuhn- Loeb Company: Germany; Warburg: Hamburg and Amsterdam; Lehman Bros: New York; Goldman and Sachs: New York; Rockefeller: New York. (That most, if not all of these families just happen to be Jewish, you may judge the significance of yourself). The balance of stock is owned by major commercial member banks...

Pat Robertson, in “The New World Order,” states that Colonel House, along with other internationalists, realized that America would not join any scheme for world government without a change in public opinion.
After a series of meetings, it was decided that an “Institute of International Affairs”, with two branches, in the United States and England, would be formed.
The British branch became known as the Royal Institute of International Affairs, with leadership provided by members of the Round Table. Begun in the late 1800’s by Cecil Rhodes, the Round Table aimed to federate the English speaking peoples of the world, and bring it under their rule.
The Council on Foreign Relations was incorporated as the American branch in New York on July 29, 1921. Founding members included Colonel House, and “…such potentates of international banking as J.P. Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, Paul Warburg, Otto Kahn, and Jacob Schiff…the same clique which had engineered the establishment of the Federal Reserve System,” according to Gary Allen in the October 1972 issue of “AMERICAN OPINION.”...

As corporations went international, national monopolies could no longer protect their interests. What was needed was a one world system of government controlled from behind the scenes. This had been the plan since the time of Colonel House, and to implement it, it was necessary to weaken the U.S. politically and economically.

During the 1920’s, America enjoyed a decade of prosperity, fueled by the easy availability of credit. Between 1923 and 1929 the Federal Reserve expanded the money supply by sixty-two percent. When the stock market crashed, many small investors were ruined, but not “insiders.” In March of 1929 Paul Warburg issued a tip the Crash was coming, and the largest investors got out of the market, according to Allen and Abraham in “None Dare Call it Conspiracy.”
With their fortunes intact, they were able to buy companies for a fraction of their worth. Shares that had sold for a dollar might now cost a nickel, and the buying power, and wealth, of the rich increased enormously.
Louis McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking Committee declared: “It was not accidental. It was a carefully contrived occurrence…The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so that they might emerge as rulers of us all.”...

CFR candidates for president...
have all promoted the “New World Order,” controlled by the United Nations. The problem is that “…the present United Nations organization is actually the creation of the CFR and is housed on land in Manhattan donated to it by the family of current CFR chairman David Rockefeller,” as Pat Robertson describes it...

One re-occurring view was stated in the 50th anniversary issue of “Foreign Affairs,” the official publication of the CFR. In an article by Kingman Brewster, Jr. entitled “Reflections on Our National Purpose.” Our purpose should be, according to him, to do away with our nationality, to “take some risks in order to invite others to pool their sovereignty with ours…”
These “risks” include disarming to the point where we would be helpless against the “peace-keeping” forces of a global UN government. We should happily surrender our sovereignty to the world government in the interests of the “world community.”...

“In short, the ‘house of world order’ will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down…An end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old fashioned assault…” in the opinion of Richard N. Gardner, former deputy assistant Secretary of State in “Foreign Affairs,” April 1974...”
https://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2013/ ... rld-order/


...But, as the budget of the following year is drawn up in accordance with the sum of the total addition, the annual departure from the normal reaches as much as 50 per cent in a year, and so the annual budget is trebled in ten years. Thanks to such methods, allowed by the carelessness of the GOY States, their treasuries are empty. The period of loans supervenes, and that has swallowed up remainders and brought all the GOY States to bankruptcy. (The United States was declared "bankrupt" at the Geneva Convention of 1929! [see 31 USC 5112, 5118, and 5119)...

...But the GOY States do not tear them off; they go on in persisting in putting more on to themselves so that they must inevitably perish, drained by voluntary blood-letting...

So long as loans were internal the GOYIM only shuffled their money from the pockets of the poor to those of the rich, but when we bought up the necessary persons in order to transfer loans into the external sphere,(Woodrow Wilson and F.D. Roosevelt) all the wealth of States flowed into our cash-boxes and all the GOYIM began to pay us the tribute of subjects...

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Stagnation of money will not be allowed by us and therefore there will be no State interest-bearing paper, except a one per-cent series, so that there will be no payment of interest to leeches that suck all the strength out of the State. The right to issue interest-bearing paper will be given exclusively to industrial companies who find no difficulty in paying interest out of profits, whereas the State does not make interest on borrowed money like these companies, for the State borrows to spend and not to use in operations.

”(...President Kennedy was assassinated in 1963 when he refused to borrow any more of the "Bank Notes" from the bankers of the Federal Reserve Bank and began circulating non-interest bearing "Notes" of the "United States of America"!).”

We shall so hedge about our system of accounting that neither the ruler nor the most insignificant public servant will be in a position to divert even the smallest sum from its destination without detection or to direct it in another direction except that which will be once fixed in a definite plan of action.”

”(Is this why a "private corporation," known as the "Internal Revenue Service," is in charge of collecting the "payments" of the "Income Taxes" and the IRS always deposits those "payments" to the Federal Reserve bank and never to the Treasury of the United States??)”



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Thinker wrote: May 18th, 2020, 11:11 am
larsenb wrote: May 14th, 2020, 12:02 pm...Remember, Henry Makow is a Jew by any standard definition/acceptance of the word.

Here are two, the latter covering much the same ground:

Maurice Joly Plagiarized "Protocols of Zion" (not vice-versa): https://www.henrymakow.com/maurice_joly ... proto.html

Protocols "Forgery" Argument is Flawed: https://www.henrymakow.com/000298.html

Here's a link to several articles resulting from a search of "Maurice Joly": https://www.henrymakow.com/cgi-bin/mt-5 ... 1&limit=20

Thanks, Larsen.

As the 1st link indicated, claims that the protocols are forgeries are not justified. What determines if they have credibility is comparing them with history, events and current circumstances to see if they are being played out. That’s what I’m trying to do, but I have not been as educated regarding history and politics as some. So, I’d appreciate any insights you and others offer.

I think it’s also a good reminder as written in that link: “This is not a condemnation of all Jews, only the nucleus of bankers and high-level Masons directing this diabolical war against the human race.” This is more about evil ACTION using the shield of Jews. From the 2nd link: ”Surely one can condemn all racism and genocide in the strongest possible terms and still believe the Protocols are authentic. In my opinion, the equation with anti Semitism is really a ploy to divert attention away from this master plan.”

That last link has a lot! I may come back to it later to review it more carefully. One quote: ”There is a direct link between the plans outlined over 100 years ago in the Protocols of Zion and the destruction of higher learning and religion in the West today.“ This reminds me of CARNEGIE'S COMMUNIST MANIFESTO FOR AMERICA, a 1934 book to “educate” toward world government. https://abcsofdumbdown.blogspot.com/201 ... r.html?m=1

ANTIFA is the most obvious evidence of university students being dumbed down - and the danger of such mob mentalities. And it’s not just at Berkeley. ”Liberal professors outnumber conservatives 28-to-1 in region known for Ivy League: “...all other college types are showing roughly the same slight tilt to the left — a much smaller growth to 4 to 1, from 2 to 1. The larger pull reflects the pronounced liberalism in the Northeast...”
https://www.thecollegefix.com/liberal-p ... vy-league/


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I read (though now can’t find it) that up until 1980’s, it was legal for Jews to discriminate and not hire based on being non-Jew...

6 Jewish Companies control 96% of the world’s media
http://tapnewswire.com/2015/10/six-jewi ... lds-media/

Media tactics have become so obvious it’s ridiculous...
https://youtu.be/rUDP6e5N9gw

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Thinker wrote: May 18th, 2020, 12:49 pm PROTOCOL No. 21

“We have taken advantage of the venality of administrators and slackness of rulers to get our moneys twice, thrice and more times over, by lending to the GOY governments moneys which were not at all needed by the States. Could anyone do the like in regard to us?

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man
https://archive.org/details/Confessions ... 7/mode/2up


Next day by artificial means the price of them goes up, the alleged reason being that everyone is rushing to buy them. In a few days the treasury safes are, as they say, overflowing and there's more money than they can do with. The subscription, it is alleged, covers many times over the issue total of the loan; in this lies the whole stage effect - look you, they say, what confidence is shown in the government's bills of exchange...

But when the comedy is played out there emerges the fact that a debit and an exceedingly burdensome debit has been created. For the payment of interest it becomes necessary to have recourse to new loans, which do not swallow up but only add to the capital debt. And when this credit is exhausted it becomes necessary by new taxes to cover, not the loan, BUT ONLY THE INTEREST ON IT. These taxes are a debit employed to cover a debit...

”(Hence THE CRY TO BALANCE THE BUDGET!)”
“On September 30, 2019, the total national debt was $22.7 trillion, and the owners of this debt were:...
*(mostly 35% from) non-federal domestic entities,
*30% Foreign
*26% Federal government funds
https://www.justfacts.com/nationaldebt.asp#ownership


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In this way in acknowledged bankruptcy will best prove to the various countries the absence of any means between the interests of the peoples and of those who rule them...

We shall replace the money markets by grandiose government credit institutions, the object of which will be to fix the price of industrial values in accordance with government views. These institutions will be in a position to fling upon the market five hundred millions of industrial paper in one day, or to buy up for the same amount. In this way all industrial undertakings will come into dependence upon us. You may imagine for yourselves what immense power we shall thereby secure for ourselves...”

2012: More than half of Americans depend on government subsidies
https://www.rt.com/usa/half-government- ... rcent-320/
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Thinker wrote: May 18th, 2020, 1:32 pm PROTOCOL No. 22

“IN OUR HANDS IS THE GREATEST POWER OF OUR DAY—GOLD...

”Bill Murray of GATA (Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee in 1998) discovered & exposed
1. Gold price suppression (violation of anti-trust policy)
2. Gold loans & massive paper gold shorts distorted market &
3. Now this is unraveling
Abt 2:30 He explained how after being on news once, wasn’t asked anymore after heard.
https://youtu.be/lQcXjooFMa4

“Gold price suppression by the world's central banks is a well-documented fact, according to Singapore's BullionStar precious metals expert Ronan Manly. He explained to RT.com why that's the case. Central banks have a long and colorful history of manipulating the gold price. This manipulation has taken many shapes and forms over the years.”
https://www.rt.com/business/421618-cent ... sing-gold/


Surely there is no need to seek further proof that our rule is predestined by God? Surely we shall not fail with such wealth to prove that all that evil which for so many centuries we have had to commit has served at the end of ends the cause of true well-being—the bringing of everything into order? Though it be even by the exercise of some violence, yet all the same it will be established. (The motto of the Freemasons—"Out of Chaos, Order"). We shall contrive to prove that we are benefactors who have restored to the rent and mangled earth the true good and also freedom of the person, and therewith we shall enable it to be enjoyed in peace and quiet, with proper dignity of relations, on the condition, of course, of strict observance of the laws established by us...

One authority will be glorious because it will be all-powerful, will rule and guide, and not muddle along after leaders and orators shrieking themselves hoarse with senseless words which they call great principles and which are nothing else, to speak honestly, but utopian . . . Our authority will be the crown of order, and in that is included the whole happiness of man.

This myth that God plays favorites has been carefully promoted by those claiming to be God’s favorites. So many Christians believe that Jews can do no wrong & thus evil is excused or even supported.

The utopian deception remind me of the UN (Jewish idea ^) agenda 21 & 2030 “sustainable development goals”...

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They sound so good, don’t they??? But what are the strings attached?

”Goal 1: End poverty in all its forms everywhere
Translation: Centralized banks, IMF, World Bank, Fed to control all finances, digital one world currency in a cashless society

Goal 2: End hunger, achieve food security and improved nutrition and promote sustainable agriculture
Translation: GMO

Goal 3: Ensure healthy lives and promote well-being for all at all ages
Translation: Mass vaccination, Codex Alimentarius

Goal 4: Ensure inclusive and equitable quality education and promote lifelong learning opportunities for all
Translation: UN propaganda, brainwashing through compulsory education from cradle to grave

Goal 5: Achieve gender equality and empower all women and girls
Translation: Population control through forced “Family Planning”

Goal 6: Ensure availability and sustainable management of water and sanitation for all
Translation: Privatize all water sources...

Goal 7: Ensure access to affordable, reliable, sustainable and modern energy for all
Translation: Smart grid with smart meters on everything, peak pricing

Goal 8: Promote sustained, inclusive and sustainable economic growth, full and productive employment and decent work for all
Translation: TPP, free trade zones that favor megacorporate interests

Goal 9: Build resilient infrastructure, promote inclusive and sustainable industrialization and foster innovation
Translation: Toll roads, push public transit, remove free travel, environmental restrictions

Goal 10: Reduce inequality within and among countries
Translation: Even more regional government bureaucracy like a mutant octopus

Goal 11: Make cities and human settlements inclusive, safe, resilient and sustainable
Translation: Big brother big data surveillance state

Goal 12: Ensure sustainable consumption and production patterns
Translation: Forced austerity

Goal 13: Take urgent action to combat climate change and its impacts*
Translation: Cap and Trade, carbon taxes/credits, footprint taxes

Goal 14: Conserve and sustainably use the oceans, seas and marine resources for sustainable development
Translation: Environmental restrictions, control all oceans including mineral rights from ocean floors

Goal 15: Protect, restore and promote sustainable use of terrestrial ecosystems, sustainably manage forests, combat desertification, and halt and reverse land degradation and halt biodiversity loss
Translation: More environmental restrictions, more controlling resources and mineral rights

Goal 16: Promote peaceful and inclusive societies for sustainable development, provide access to justice for all and build effective, accountable and inclusive institutions at all levels
Translation: UN “peacekeeping” missions (ex 1, ex 2), the International Court of (blind) Justice, force people together via fake refugee crises and then mediate with more “UN peacekeeping” when tension breaks out to gain more control over a region, remove 2nd Amendment in USA

Goal 17: Strengthen the means of implementation and revitalize the global partnership for sustainable development
Translation: Remove national sovereignty worldwide, promote globalism under the “authority” and bloated, Orwellian bureaucracy of the UN...”

http://www.truthandaction.org/uns-agend ... t-goals/2/

https://youtu.be/zfMxsrcr1D0



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Thinker wrote: May 18th, 2020, 2:30 pm PROTOCOL No. 23

“That the peoples may become accustomed to obedience it is necessary to inculcate lessons of humility...

Subjects, I repeat once more, give blind obedience only to the strong hand which is absolutely independent of them, for in it they feel the sword of defence and support against social scourges...

Many obediently wear muzzle-type things get their mouths & similarly won’t dare exercise their free speech in openly questioning such illogical, unfounded government orders. And now, Trump says he will deploy military to give Americans immunizations? Why? Humiliating, requiring obedience to “strong” authority.

“Patent...US10130701B2 Not allowed to develop here. Sent to Canada then China...follow the $$. Microsoft WO/2020/060606 Biometrics implant, bill gates
Applied for patent 7/2014
https://patents.google.com/patent/US10130701B2/en

One of the marks of the beast (animal):

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The supreme lord who will replace all now existing rulers, dragging in their existence among societies demoralized by us, societies that have denied even the authority of God, from whose midst breeds out on all sides the fire of anarchy, must first of all proceed to quench this all-devouring flame. Therefore he will be obliged to kill off those existing societies, though he should drench them with his own blood, that he may resurrect them again in the form of regularly organized troops fighting consciously with every kind of infection that may cover the body of the State with sores.

4. This Chosen One of God is chosen from above to demolish the senseless forces moved by instinct and not reason, by brutishness and not humanness. These forces now triumph in manifestations of robbery and every kind of violence under the mask of principles of freedom and rights. They have overthrown all forms of social order to erect on the ruins the throne of the King of the Jews; but their part will be played out the moment he enters into his kingdom. Then it will be necessary to sweep them away from his path...”

One of the most demoralized societies is China. I pray for our brothers & sisters there who are enduring a cruel “social credit system” that denies them of multiple rights.

I’m not sure, but this “King or the Jews” sounds like belief in a Messiah. Yet, if there will be a divine deliverer, it will not be as they think. Many Jews thought Christ would physically save them but came to find out he saved them spiritually...
  • ”And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.”- Luke 17:20-21

This utopian deception of killing everyone to allow for just the ”ideal” ones to live, reminds me of the Georgia Guide-stones:

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones



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Thinker wrote: May 18th, 2020, 3:15 pm PROTOCOL No. 24 (Last one!!)

“1. I pass now to the method of confirming the dynastic roots of King David to the last strata of the earth...

... by our learned elders of the conduct of the affairs of the world, in the directing of the education of thought of all humanity...

3. Certain members of the seed of David will prepare the kings and their heirs, selecting not by right of heritage but by eminent capacities, inducting them into the most secret mysteries of the political, into schemes of government, but providing always that none may come to knowledge of the secrets.

Interesting how many presidents & people in power have been affiliated with the same Yale society... Yale Skull & Bones secret society, politically entrenched
https://www.businessinsider.com/most-po ... 017-3?op=1


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5. Direct heirs will often be set aside from ascending the throne if in their time of training they exhibit frivolity, softness and other qualities that are the ruin of authority, which render them incapable of governing and in themselves dangerous for kingly office.

6. Only those who are unconditionally capable for firm, even if it be to cruelty, direct rule will receive the reins of rule from our learned elders.

7. In case of falling sick with weakness of will or other form of incapacity. kings must by law hand over the reins of rule to new and capable hands...

Again, but more clearly, realize these “Jewish Global Protocols” is NOT about ethnicity nor Judaism - but about those who best play along in using the name “Jew” to get away with all kinds of things because nobody dares be called “anti-semetic.”

Also, there are many cases of people who were otherwise healthy suddenly dying - like Scalia after speaking out against unconstitutional actions by the Supreme Court, was found dead in his hotel room.

This in relation to lds church history, was discussed earlier in this thread. I see a likely probability that lds church leaders are trying to play along.

Yale’s secret society is now known to have been a common thread in people who have risen to power. BYU (founded 1903) copied Yale (f 1701) logo...

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“Mormons have a longer history in the Ivory Tower than I ever realized. In fact, the first Mormons began enrolling at universities like Harvard, Columbia, the University of Michigan and Stanford in the closing decades of the 19th century, and the men and women who obtained degrees by studying “abroad” – what Brigham Young and others called anything back east in those days – had an outsized presence in shaping the future of the LDS Church.”
https://religionnews.com/2016/12/19/whe ... o-harvard/

Another source from which people who rise from power come, seems to be the Chabad...

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The Happy-Go-Lucky Jewish Group That Connects Trump and Putin
“Bayrock was co-led by Felix Sater, a convicted mob associate.
Sater and another Bayrock employee, Daniel Ridloff, who like Sater later went on to work directly for the Trump Organization, belong to the Port Washington Chabad house. Sater told POLITICO Magazine that in addition to serving on the board of the Port Washington Chabad house, he sits on the boards of numerous Chabad entities in the U.S. and abroad, though none in Russia.

The extent of Sater’s ties to Trump is a matter of some dispute. Working out of Trump Tower, Sater partnered with the celebrity developer on numerous Trump-branded developments and scouted deals for him in the former Soviet Union. In 2006, Sater escorted Trump’s children Ivanka and Don Jr. around Moscow to scour the city for potential projects, and he worked especially closely with Ivanka on the development of Trump SoHo, a hotel and condominium building in Manhattan whose construction was announced on “The Apprentice” in 2006. In 2007, Sater’s stock fraud conviction became public. The revelation did not deter Trump, who brought him on as “a senior advisor to the Trump Organization” in 2010...

“Trump called Felix like every other day to his office. So the fact that he’s saying he doesn’t know him, that’s a lot of crap,” said a former Sater colleague. “They were definitely in contact always. They spoke on the phone all the time.”..

“The interconnectedness of the Jewish world through Chabad is not surprising insofar as it’s one of the main Jewish players,” said Boteach.”
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... tin-215007

I’ve stated this previously but again, the corrupt goals are likely not played out by most except a small percent. Most Jews don’t subscribe to this, and similarly most Yale & Chabad affiliates don’t support these goals either - though they may be as useful pawns - we all may be - unless we assert otherwise.



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Thinker wrote: June 1st, 2020, 9:44 am The OP video was banned on YouTube. Often (not always) censorship of material (like lgbtq, abortion censorship I’ve seen & experienced) is because people are trying to cover up truth that would reveal evil they like or want to continue.

Here is another video that explains basics of the Protocols/Illuminati and how it has been and is playing out... I’m still not sure as to evidence of connection between Illuminati goals (written 1776) & Protocol goals (1903 or earlier).

Illuminati goals:
”1. All men are more easily inclined towards evil than good.
2. Preach Liberalism
3. Use the idea of freedom to bring about class wars
4. Any and all means should be used to reach the Illuminati Goals as they are justified.
5. The right to lie in force.

6. The power of our resources must remain invisible until the very moment it has gained the strength that no cunning or force can undermine it.
7. Avocation of mob psychology to control the masses.
8. Use alcohol, drugs, corruption and all forms of vice to systematically corrupt the youth of the nation.
9. Seize property by any means
10. Use of slogans such as equity, liberty, fraternity delivered into the mouths of the masses in psychological warfare

11. War should be directed so that the nations on both sides are placed further in debt and peace conferences conducted so that neither combatant obtains territory rights.
12. Members must use their wealth to have candidates chosen and placed in public office who will be obedient to their demands and will be used as pawns in the game by those behind the scenes. Their advisors will have been reared and trained from childhood to rule the affairs of the world.
13. Control the press.
14. Agents will come forward after fermenting traumatic situations and appear to be the saviors of the masses.
15. Create industrial depression and financial panic, unemployment, hunger, shortage of food and use this to control the masses or mob and then use the mob to wipe out all those who stand in the way.

16. Infiltrate into the secret Freemasons to use them for Illuminati purposes.
17. Expound the value of systematic deception, use high sounding slogans and phrases and advocate lavish promises to the masses even though they cannot be kept.
18. Detail plans for resolutions, discuss the art of street fighting which is necessary to bring the population into speedy subjection.
19. Use agents as advisors behind the scenes after wars and use secret diplomacy to gain control.
20. Establish huge monopolies that lean toward world government control.

21. Use high taxes and unfair competition to bring about economic ruin by control of raw materials. Organize agitation among the workers and subsidize their competitors.
22. Build up armaments with Police forces and Soldiers sufficient to protect our needs.
23. Members and leaders of the one world government would be appointed by the directors.
24. Infiltrate into all classes and levels of society and government for the purpose of fooling, bemusing and corrupting the youthful members of society by teaching them theories and principles that we know to be false.
25. National and International laws should be used to destroy civilization and enslave and control the people.”

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread690822/pg1


PROTOCOL goals are similar:
”Preface/Intro/Who are the Elders?
Protocol I - The Basic Doctrine
Protocol II - Economic Wars
Protocol III - Methods of Conquest
Protocol IV - Materialism Replaces Religion
Protocol V - Despotism and Modern Progress

Protocol VI - Take-Over Technique
Protocol VII - World-Wide Wars
Protocol VIII - Provisional Government
Protocol IX - Re-education

Protocol X - Preparing for Power
Protocol XI - The Totalitarian State
Protocol XII - Control of the Press
Protocol XIII - Distractions
Protocol XIV - Assault on Religion

Protocol XV - Ruthless Suppression
Protocol XVI - Brainwashing
Protocol XVII - Abuse of Authority
Protocol XVIII - Arrest of Opponents
Protocol XIX - Rulers and People

Protocol XX - Financial Programme
Protocol XXI - Loans and Credit
Protocol XXII - Power of Gold
Protocol XXIII - Instilling Obedience
Protocol XXIV - Qualities of the Ruler”

https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm

Regarding the protocols:
”Understandably, the Protocols created rage, fear, disbelief and any other strong emotions you can think of, because they are so incredibly evil and they target people like you and I. The authors of the Protocols want us all dead or enslaved!

The next public reaction was denial; no one can be that vicious. Just because it is so hard for people to comprehend such evil, it was an easy task for the Zionists to spread the rumors that the Protocols were forgeries, made up by someone to blame the Jews and put them in a situation where people would hate them. Many people took this to heart without doing any deeper research, simply because it was more convenient, and hopefully the threat would 'disappeared'.

Now I have to disappoint those who bought the lie that the Protocols are forgeries. They are not! There is evidence they are authentic, and I will show them to you...”

http://www.illuminati-news.com/Articles/04.html

How events relate to the Protocols is what adds credibility.
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Thinker wrote: June 1st, 2020, 10:16 am
Chip wrote: June 1st, 2020, 9:52 am "Part of the look forward is in recognizing the importance of mobilizing women of faith to work on Sustainable Development Goals (SDG) issues and to acknowledge their faith not as a barrier but the key to progress and success. The 2030 agenda won’t happen without religion, and religion won’t happen without women. They are the movers."

- Sister Eubank
It makes sense - good marketing in terms of global goals.

“Zbigniew Brzezinski, former National Security Advisor and Trilateral Commision insider, advised his Illuminati superiors that the New World Order can be established only be employing religion as a key weapon of global influence.”
http://www.texemarrs.com/012005/illumin ... infamy.htm

Study suggests women are the primary models for religious faith in many households
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... ch/505310/

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Thinker wrote: June 1st, 2020, 1:16 pm This topic is so very easily misunderstood because most of us have been carefully programmed to see things a certain way - for most of our lives. I keep coming back to the idea that we are ALL children of God and those who are chosen to do God’s will - choose to do God’s will - action over ethnicity. The oligarchy (few who are pulling the strings) may or may not have a drop of Jewish ancestry yet they use anti-semitism ideologies and laws to get away with a lot.

There’s good and bad in every group of people and each person individually. I don’t want people to be prejudice - but rather judge based on the fruit - peoples’ ACTIONS. Look at the actions of governments and media. See not just what is being said but also look deeper for what is purposefully NOT being said.

Kind of long but the following is an interview between David Ike (who I don’t agree with 100% on all his beliefs) and Guy Tal, an Israeli Jew. The main idea is that many people - even Jews - are being called anti-Semitic &/or silenced for speaking about anything negative about the state of Israel or ruling elite.

https://youtu.be/dPDvDYT2IGg
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Thinker wrote: June 4th, 2020, 7:25 pm Free speech - not applicable to those using the name Jew? Call out evil of them (ie abortion, lgbtq) and you risk getting called anti-Semite &/or imprisoned in some areas.

Brother Nathanael was banned in youtube but others post his videos...
He humorously makes up his lyrics to “great pretender” & explains how America is not great but we can make it great by standing for good morals...
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Thinker wrote: June 5th, 2020, 9:33 am
sushi_chef wrote: May 27th, 2020, 10:09 pm possibly venetian upper echelon class was phoenician descent...

"Phoenicians are Jews ...
Interesting, thanks for your input. Even if some in the cabal or oligarchy are not genetically related, there’s evidence to suggest secret combinations and societies.

I’m curious, SuchiChef, what do you think about China’s relation to global goals, the protocols & secret societies?

It seems that Jewish “studies” and popularity has infiltrated even China...

Why Are the Chinese So Obsessed With the Jews? (2016)
https://forward.com/culture/344669/why- ... -the-jews/

WHY IS CHINA SO INTERESTED IN ISRAEL AND THE JEWS? (2019)
https://www.cjnews.com/news/israel/why- ... d-the-jews

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Thinker wrote: June 7th, 2020, 9:15 am Interesting Mormon ties... may explain some things church leaders have done that seem to be contrary to past leadership...

In Deseret News Jan. 7, 2011), Mark Paredes, (previously the executive director of the western region of the Zionist Organization of America, the national director of Latino outreach for the American Jewish Congress, the press attache for the consulate general of Israel, and a U.S. diplomat in Israel and Mexico) spoke of the theological connections of Mormons and Jews. Paredes was baptized a member of the LDS (Mormon) Church at age 11 and served as a Mormon Missionary to Italy...

“Paredes, who speaks seven languages fluently and has lived in five countries, is a religion columnist for the Latter-Day Trumpet and is a high councilor in the Santa Monica Stake of the LDS Church.

The Michigan native, who will be delivering “pro-Jewish speeches” in three languages in five European countries in September, spoke about Mormon-Jewish relations...

In Los Angeles alone, Mormons have worked or are working at the Jewish Federation, the Consulate General of Israel, ARMDI (Israeli Red Cross), ORT, a major Reform synagogue and an ultra-Orthodox school. In addition, a Mormon currently serves as the chief of staff for the Israeli ambassador in Australia...

...the Hanukkah song written by Utah Senator Orrin Hatch...”

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_657148

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Yes.
June 2019, Gong spoke at an interfaith conference in Japan:
  • ”As the Buenos Aires G20 Interfaith Forum Policy Recommendations declared, “Macro goals cannot succeed without micro-implementation, and religious communities are often optimally placed to facilitate advances in reduction of poverty, hunger, provision of health care and education, promotion of decent work and equal treatment, and so on through the list of SDGs [Sustainable Development Goals]. Firm protections for freedom of religion or belief (FoRB) are essential.”
    https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.or ... transcript
^ Sounds like an attempt to make things appear different than they are. But what rose a red flag to me is when he spoke at the conference for youth with a focus on being “equal” and “global” & how parents shouldn’t be involved with their children’s goals. Gerrit W. Gong belonged to the Council on Foreign Relations, which is believed to be the parent organization of the UN.
  • ”The present United Nations organization is actually the creation of the CFR & is housed on land in Manhattan donated to it by the family of [past] CFR Chairman David Rockefeller [1970-1985 Chairman, died 2017].” - Pat Robertson
The Constitution is supposed to protect our property rights... and our right to assemble etc.
  • ”The Fifth Amendment protects the right to private property in two ways. First, it states that a person may not be deprived of property by the government without “due process of law,” or fair procedures. In addition, it sets limits on the traditional practice of eminent domain, such as when the government takes private property to build a public road. Under the Fifth Amendment, such takings must be for a “public use” and require “just compensation” at market value for the property seized. But in Kelo v. City of New London (2005), the Supreme Court interpreted public use broadly to include a “public purpose” of economic development that might directly benefit private parties. In response, many state legislatures passed laws limiting the scope of eminent domain for public use.”
    http://www.pbs.org/tpt/constitution-usa ... ty-rights/
With how meanings have been stretched, maybe the idea of “public use” will also be stretched. The UN & Protocols seem to seek to limit private home/property ownership. I wonder... Could part of the ulterior motives for shutting down businesses (besides ruining economies to make way for a global government) be to buy up commercial properties for cheap & transform business buildings into apartment complexes to cram people into cities?
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Thinker wrote: September 13th, 2020, 12:24 pm The following article points out relevant scriptures...
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion & the Book of Mormon
https://issuu.com/nephichu/docs/the_pro ... n_-_impo/4

Elders...
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Thinker wrote: October 2nd, 2020, 11:37 am August 2020:

“An FBI Twitter account has raised eyebrows after linking to the ‘Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion,’ a century-old... pamphlet, without any comment or context.
The FBI Records Vault tweets out documents from the bureau’s archives. On Wednesday afternoon, it sent out a link to a PDF copy of the Protocols...”

“We are living in interesting times to say the least. I do not know what is going on behind the scenes and why the Protocols were tweeted out by the FBI, but hopefully this gets more people to read up on the jewish conspiracy to enslave the world.”
http://www.renegadetribune.com/fbi-twee ... ge-ensues/

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https://archive.fo/xtI8b
https://archive.is/Yy9W7

Maybe this is answer to prayer that good will triumph over evil.

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The following is a bit drawn out, and the guy is just learning about the protocols, but he goes through the FBI file, including a letter by a “F? J. Holland” (related to Jeffrey?... :27). He also suggests we should be able to discuss this without being called “anti-semetic.”
https://youtu.be/dpRvrfTxk8A
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Thinker wrote: December 18th, 2020, 7:48 pm
truefreedom wrote: December 16th, 2020, 10:10 pmPROTOCOL No. 10
WE NAME PRESIDENTS
SECTION 11... our impersonal puppet will be responsible...

13.... we shall arrange elections in favor of such presidents as
have in their past some dark, undiscovered stain, some "Panama" or other - then they will be trustworthy
agents for the accomplishment of our plans out of fear of revelations
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... blind slave of ours - the majority of the mob. Independently of this we shall
invest the president with the right of declaring a state of war...


...WE SHALL INSTIGATE MINISTERS AND OTHER OFFICIALS...
Thanks for sharing this. It sure is relevant!
1) Presidents are puppets
2) Epstein island & the like was reported to be led by (fake) Jewish men who insisted ever visitor be recorded (for blackmail). Trump too.
3) That “blind slave” of theirs is the mob - the unthinking, easily deceived herd who they regard as a herd of “beasts.”
4) They have orchestrated wars to make each side indebted to them - win for them no matter who wins.
5) They instigate ministers like “Elders- Lds Zionists” who are doing their bidding. Boundaries if you haven’t already established them!
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Thinker wrote: December 18th, 2020, 7:50 pm Some are so appalled by “anti-semitism” - or rather people pointing out FACTS which they call “anti-semitism” - facts like Jews being over represented in government, banking, media etc. Some claim that Ashkenazi Jews - the non-Middle Eastern (who’s ancestors converted & most are atheist & have inter-breeded) are smarter & that’s supposedly why they’re over-represented. That is as logical as saying, people who wear red shoes are smarter than everyone else. Interbreeding & the little fact that they have little to no actual Jewish (Middle Eastern) ancestry is another reason why it’s absurd.

I just heard a couple other claims that are less ridiculous & maybe even somewhat valid. It’s suggested that for hundreds (about 500) years, most Europeans were illiterate except clergy & Jews... & back in the day, the Catholic theocracy ruled interest loans illegal or against the church but Jews could do it. To both of these, must be asked, If the known protocols come from more ancient protocols, did those authors help plan that illiteracy & rule against loans so they could benefit?
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Thinker wrote: December 29th, 2020, 8:35 am Here’s a chart showing immigration patterns over the years. I was initially curious about China with all the companies (McDonalds, Starbucks, Subway, Hyatt etc) with China ownership. But also interesting is the time when Russian immigration was so high - after protocols discovered (1897-1903) & before NWO plans started in earnest (FDR US pres 1933 -1945). Remember, the Protocols came out of Russia.

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“For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States. But, he didn’t. Most of his thoughts, his political ammunition, as it were, were carefully manufactured for him in advance by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money group. … The UN is but a long-range, international banking apparatus clearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful One-World revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power.”The depression was the calculated ‘shearing’ of the public by the World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market… The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank.”

-(US President Roosevelt’s son-in-law Curtis Dall, My Exploited Father-in-Law.)

List of NWO quotes: https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/04/2 ... rld-order/

BIDEN too...
“The ‘affirmative task’ before us is to “create a New World Order.”
–VP Joe Biden, speech Import Export Bank, April 5, 2013

“How I Learned to Love the New World Order”
–article by Sen. Joseph R. Biden, Jr. Wall Street Journal, April 1992


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Thinker wrote: January 9th, 2021, 4:48 pm ”To learn who rules over you simply look to those you cannot criticize.”- Voltaire

Came across an interesting comment:
”Churchill's attempt at "walking back" the Balfour Declaration and the Treaty of San Remo, which established Palestine as a Jewish homeland. Churchill, as Colonial Secretary attempted to dismiss the Balfour Delcaration as mere "war propaganda" to be used against the Germans. Which was a bit difficult to do after the UK had signed a treaty creating a League of Nations Mandate for Palestine as a Jewish Homeland.
Of course at the time, the prime movers for Zionism were the Marxists who were building the kibbutzim and settling Jews on the land, not just in the cities. The Poalei Zion certainly looked like Bolsheviks even if their communism was strictly voluntary.”



Zionism versus Bolshevism
... International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.

There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd), or of Krassin or Radek – all Jews. In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing.”

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionis ... Bolshevism

It is implied in the Protocols & elsewhere that fake Jews (not ethnic nor religious but use the name) had real Jews killed in the holocaust & yet play “victim”/anti-semetitism card whenever anyone even hints at Jews being used to hide behind conspiring wickedness.
*George Galloway: Zionism & Nazism had same goal of removing Jews from Europe (4:00)
https://youtu.be/1J8L_Xzrgzg

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Thinker wrote: January 12th, 2021, 6:53 pm ”Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is a document which should be read by all. No other single document provides us with such a clear understanding of why the world is gradually moving towards a One World Government, controlled by an irreproachable hidden hand. In The Protocols, we are given clear insights as to why so many incomprehensible political decisions are made in both local, national and international politics, which seem to continually work against the favor of the masses and in favor of the vested interests of the banking/industrial cartel — the global power elite.

The average person normally reacts with outrage and horror today at the very suggestion that there may be a conspiracy as grand as The Protocols. But the average person has absolutely no information on which to base his or her opinion. The reaction to exposure of this ancient conspiracy is merely a pre-programmed Pavlovian reaction, created and instilled by the very perpetrators of the same ancient conspiracy. And today, very few will dare speak above a whisper of that all-encompassing oppression of mankind.

It is extremely rare today to find information about the ancient conspiracy, due to the mass censorship of the printed word, and the unwillingness of the general population to consider as a possibility something which they have been brought up since birth to see as outrageous and ridiculous. Each generation is born into a world of greater and greater censorship and illusion...”
  • ”“… The gentiles are a flock of sheep, and we are their wolves. And you know what happens when the wolves get hold of the flock?… There is another reason also why they will close their eyes: for we shall keep promising them to give back all the liberties we have taken away as soon as we have quelled the enemies of peace and tamed all parties ….. It is not worthwhile to say anything about how long a time they will be kept waiting for this return of their liberties …..”[Protocol #11 — The Totalitarian State]
https://themadtruther.com/2019/06/08/wh ... s-of-zion/
"The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is the most blatantly Satanic document in world history! It systematically lists all the steps that are necessary to establish the New World Order and its ultimate leader. It is obvious that these plans for the establishment of the New World Order are so brilliantly conceived and written, they could only be the work of supernatural Guiding Spirits through Automatic Writing.

The Protocols are organized as follows:

Blueprint for world domination;
Advent of a Masonic Kingdom;
A king of the blood of Sion, of the Dynastic roots of David;
The King of the Jews will be the real Pope;
The world ruler will be the patriarch of an international church.
(Hogan, Jean Baptiste, as quoted by Holy Blood, Holy Grail, p. 193.)"


Holy canoli, @cab and I just had a couple posts this morning showing how Masons believe Lucifer is a good guy(he posted a video of a Mason being asked a few questions) and in one of my posts I said that it's almost like the UN actually takes instruction from Satan! And it sounds like that's part of what the protocols are, that's scary.
If that is in fact true that's its a document inspired by hell and it's demons, it's no wonder the UN is so horrible. That's scary stuff

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https://thezog.wordpress.com/

...on the right hand column you can select the organization and the Jewish leaders of the respective organization/media/government etc...

...also available here with pictures...
https://www.islam-radio.net/islam/engli ... A-main.htm

...please note that member of Stormfront (KKK) behind the Zog blog...and obvious bias from the islam link as well...so take it for whatever its worth...but it does tie into the premise behind the Protocols....

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I'm re-reading the Protocols. I read them back in the early 90s, and my impression was it was true plans but falsely attributed to the Jews, and also intentionally published so as the plan unfolded the hatred for the Jews would grow.
I believe the true authors are those spoken of in Revelation that claim to be Jews but are the Synagogue of Satan.

I am interested how almost thirty years of experience and study will make this read-thru different.

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There is an interesting aspect of involvement...
"'You know,' Trump joked in another meeting, mocking his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who was raised in a modern Orthodox Jewish family and was working on Middle East peace, 'Jared's more loyal to Israel than the United States,'" Woodward and Costa wrote.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-s ... 021-9?op=1

...they've really played up that aspect with Trump...but the reality is...

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...and the Russian ties...

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...and the Roman ties...

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...so the reality is it's hard to pin any one aspect down...and I think the reality is the whore Babylon sits upon many waters...and there are only two churches...

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...and no matter the secret organization...they all seem to be aligned...whether its masonry or zionists or Opus Dei or CFR...

...here's a timeline through 1996 of development of New World Order...
https://www.jeremiahproject.com/wp-cont ... rderHx.pdf

Our Members
https://www.inclusivecapitalism.com/our-members/

Our Partners
https://www.weforum.org/partners/

List of Groups
https://www.lucistrust.org/worldwide_ne ... ist_groups
The Masters are a worldwide group of executives, adept and skilled in the various fields of work in the modern world, organised into a close network of communication throughout the world, with representatives in all nations, both east and west, and working in the closest co-operation.

The overall hierarchical organisation has three major divisions: one having responsibility for world political progress, or government in its true sense; the second having responsibility for teaching in its three aspects, education, religion and healing; and a third division having responsibility for all economic progress, industry, labour and capital relations, scientific discovery, finance as it pertains to all fields, intellectual culture, and the arts. This third division is the largest of the three, with many different departments of work.

Today, all of the work is interrelated and co-ordinated into one worldwide group effort, and the senior members of this group who are responsible for the implementing of the Plan in these various fields have been called the New Group of World Servers.

Two basic needs today are for trained workers and adequate financing. The Hierarchy works through its disciples and co-workers in all countries, and never before have there been so many endeavouring to fit themselves for this function in the world as “transmitters of the Plan”, and never before has there existed such a strong inner integrity and subjective relation between workers in all fields in all parts of the world. For the first time in history there is a coherent world group; but the need for trained workers was never greater nor so widespread nor so urgent as now.

When the hierarchical worker is an advanced worker, he is aware of the source of his guidance and co-operates consciously with the plans of the Hierarchy.

World Goodwill is an activity of the Lucis Trust, working to create an informed public opinion based on spiritual values. It carries out a number of worldwide educational and goodwill service projects. The work is supported solely by the voluntary donations of interested persons.
https://www.lucistrust.org/world_goodwi ... the_planet

...of course...from the master of lies...there is no shortage there...

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...see any familiar names??? notice the lady there...recognize her?
Microsoft released an advertisement for their mixed reality device Hololens 2 on Good Friday. The promotion featured Satanic occult artist Marina Abramovic, who created her art project The Life using the device as a tool for her holographic fabrication. After receiving much negative responses, the video was set to “private” and erased from Microsoft’s official website.
https://www.newsfromtheperimeter.com/ho ... e-response

...and we know that the whore Babylon will fall...and great shall be the fall...and we don't have long to wait!

p.s. sorry for all this darkness. don't like or care for it. but it is the reality in which we live. I put it up here for eyes to see where the alliances are and who the enemy is. I know personally it is very difficult to not be found supporting these institutions...but hopefully the collapse will come soon and their reign of terror will be over...may we all pray for that day to come soon!

...and Trump was an easy example...Biden is worse...they both are covered in gadianton stink along with the 10 decades or more of those who proceeded them in the white office...

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...and I would add...tying back to the vaccine front...you'll find all the major owners (Gates Foundation usually at the top) and the companies themselves on those luciferian organization partner lists linked to above...

...so are they really interested in saving humanity with their vaccines? Probably not....lucifer has never had an interest in protecting and preserving God's creations...in fact quite the opposite...

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Original_Intent wrote: October 6th, 2021, 3:41 pm I'm re-reading the Protocols. I read them back in the early 90s, and my impression was it was true plans but falsely attributed to the Jews, and also intentionally published so as the plan unfolded the hatred for the Jews would grow.
I believe the true authors are those spoken of in Revelation that claim to be Jews but are the Synagogue of Satan.

I am interested how almost thirty years of experience and study will make this read-thru different.
I’m also curious about your thoughts… & why the forum is suddenly acting strange.

You are likely right about Jews being a scapegoat. But the protocols even suggest as much… something about “sacrificing their brethren” in the Holocaust- so nobody dares question for fear of antisemitism.

What do you think about Noahide Laws Bush signed?



Interesting what is not allowed to be read. The last paragraph is ironically expressing racism the article was supposedly fighting against.

”A US Capitol Police officer was suspended on Monday after an anti-Semitic document was found near his work area, the department said. A congressional aide spotted a printed copy of the “The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion” …

“This is both a national security problem and a workplace safety problem,” Fish wrote. “Our office is full of people — Black, brown, Jewish, queer — who have good reason to fear white supremacists. If the USCP is all that stands between us and the mob we saw on Jan. 6, how can we feel safe?””


https://nypost.com/2021/03/15/capitol-p ... -document/

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Jason wrote: October 6th, 2021, 4:49 pm ...so the reality is it's hard to pin any one aspect down...and I think the reality is the whore Babylon sits upon many waters…
My impression is similar, but religion is being used (in various forms) as tools of influence.

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Thinker wrote: October 19th, 2021, 10:15 pm
Original_Intent wrote: October 6th, 2021, 3:41 pm I'm re-reading the Protocols. I read them back in the early 90s, and my impression was it was true plans but falsely attributed to the Jews, and also intentionally published so as the plan unfolded the hatred for the Jews would grow.
I believe the true authors are those spoken of in Revelation that claim to be Jews but are the Synagogue of Satan.

I am interested how almost thirty years of experience and study will make this read-thru different.
I’m also curious about your thoughts… & why the forum is suddenly acting strange.

You are likely right about Jews being a scapegoat. But the protocols even suggest as much… something about “sacrificing their brethren” in the Holocaust- so nobody dares question for fear of antisemitism.

What do you think about Noahide Laws Bush signed?



Interesting what is not allowed to be read. The last paragraph is ironically expressing racism the article was supposedly fighting against.

”A US Capitol Police officer was suspended on Monday after an anti-Semitic document was found near his work area, the department said. A congressional aide spotted a printed copy of the “The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion” …

“This is both a national security problem and a workplace safety problem,” Fish wrote. “Our office is full of people — Black, brown, Jewish, queer — who have good reason to fear white supremacists. If the USCP is all that stands between us and the mob we saw on Jan. 6, how can we feel safe?””


https://nypost.com/2021/03/15/capitol-p ... -document/
I haven't made much progress on the Protocols.
The forum is weird because the world is intentionally being put is a stress situation, and over time even decent people start to break down.

The Noahide laws - had never heard of them. Reading them they seem decent at first glance.

The blatant lying and even self-contradictory nonsense is all to put people into extreme distrust, fear and confusion, in my opinion..

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kathyn wrote: December 19th, 2009, 10:52 pm I have to agree with pjbrownie on this one. I think that the Protocols are propaganda, insomuch as they paint the Jews as the main perpetrators. I do believe in the conspiracy, but I don't think it's due to just Jews. Some may be Jews, but that is coincidental.
As I've said elsewhere, it's a numbers game. There are more Dutch people in this world than Jews. Most of our oppressors are very much Gentiles, and they would have to be for any of this to work, just on the basis of those numbers.

Even some of those people with Jewish backgrounds involved in globalism are barely Jewish in any religious sense. The Rothschild family have married out a lot in recent generations and some of them claim to be nominally Catholic or outwardly irreligious.

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These are the Noahide laws:

Not to worship idols.
Not to curse God.
Not to commit murder.
Not to commit adultery or sexual immorality.
Not to steal.
Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.
To establish courts of justice.

The only one I can quibble about is the meaning of the last one. Christians should be following the first five anyway from our own teachings. The second last one is an issue of animal cruelty, but I suppose would include blood pudding.

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Original_Intent wrote: October 20th, 2021, 1:07 am
Thinker wrote: October 19th, 2021, 10:15 pm
Original_Intent wrote: October 6th, 2021, 3:41 pm I'm re-reading the Protocols. I read them back in the early 90s, and my impression was it was true plans but falsely attributed to the Jews, and also intentionally published so as the plan unfolded the hatred for the Jews would grow.
I believe the true authors are those spoken of in Revelation that claim to be Jews but are the Synagogue of Satan.

I am interested how almost thirty years of experience and study will make this read-thru different.
I’m also curious about your thoughts… & why the forum is suddenly acting strange.

You are likely right about Jews being a scapegoat. But the protocols even suggest as much… something about “sacrificing their brethren” in the Holocaust- so nobody dares question for fear of antisemitism.

What do you think about Noahide Laws Bush signed?



Interesting what is not allowed to be read. The last paragraph is ironically expressing racism the article was supposedly fighting against.

”A US Capitol Police officer was suspended on Monday after an anti-Semitic document was found near his work area, the department said. A congressional aide spotted a printed copy of the “The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion” …

“This is both a national security problem and a workplace safety problem,” Fish wrote. “Our office is full of people — Black, brown, Jewish, queer — who have good reason to fear white supremacists. If the USCP is all that stands between us and the mob we saw on Jan. 6, how can we feel safe?””


https://nypost.com/2021/03/15/capitol-p ... -document/
I haven't made much progress on the Protocols.
The forum is weird because the world is intentionally being put is a stress situation, and over time even decent people start to break down.

The Noahide laws - had never heard of them. Reading them they seem decent at first glance.

The blatant lying and even self-contradictory nonsense is all to put people into extreme distrust, fear and confusion, in my opinion..
Definitely psy ops in multiple forms.

Sorry to not be clear, about the forum - it acted strange (refreshing, closing the site etc) when I shared this on this thread & when I quoted Jason.

The Noahide laws are great… except for the little detail of beheading any violators, like Christians who are deemed to worship idols like Christ… and any other mental gymnastics to pretend there were violations.

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“Many people think "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" is "hate literature" and fraud.

Nobel Prize winner Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote that the book exhibits "the mind of a genius." Pretty good for a hoax, wouldn't you say?

Solzhenitsyn said it exhibits "great strength of thought and insight... Its design... (increasing freedom and liberalism, which is terminated in social cataclysm)...is well above the abilities of an ordinary mind... It is more complicated than a nuclear bomb."


(From the Protocols:
…The goal is to "scatter to the winds all existing forces for order and regulation" and to become the "sovereign lord" of those so stupid as to lay down their powers and fall for liberal entreaties…

"Our countersign is--Force and Make-believe" i.e. deception. The writer emphasizes that the goal is to "seize the property of others" and "bring all governments into subjection to our super-government."

… Press has fallen into our hands. It fashions the thought of the people.”
https://www.henrymakow.com/2020/12/prot ... -zion.html

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