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cyclOps wrote: September 24th, 2022, 10:31 am
Being There wrote: September 24th, 2022, 10:06 am
cyclOps wrote: September 24th, 2022, 9:33 am
Being There wrote: September 24th, 2022, 9:31 am

what close friends the church has. SMH


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Wait, Thomas S Monson shook George W Bush’s hand? Say it ain’t so!
ya,
you should go and join The Men in Black - Nelson has.

GOOD GLOBAL CITIZENS


"in good company"
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ALL SUCH GOOD GLOBAL CITIZENS !
(what evil men)
now that Nelson is a member, I think we need to send him a gift -
one of those long black overcoats. lol.
Anyways… back to the handshake. What was wrong with that handshake?
there's really no point in saying, if you can't see it.

but equally, if not much more important, the question should be
"What's wrong with a supposed prophet of the church shaking hands with Bush.?

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Being There wrote: September 24th, 2022, 3:03 pm
cyclOps wrote: September 24th, 2022, 10:31 am
Being There wrote: September 24th, 2022, 10:06 am
cyclOps wrote: September 24th, 2022, 9:33 am

Wait, Thomas S Monson shook George W Bush’s hand? Say it ain’t so!
ya,
you should go and join The Men in Black - Nelson has.

GOOD GLOBAL CITIZENS


"in good company"
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ALL SUCH GOOD GLOBAL CITIZENS !
(what evil men)
now that Nelson is a member, I think we need to send him a gift -
one of those long black overcoats. lol.
Anyways… back to the handshake. What was wrong with that handshake?
there's really no point in saying, if you can't see it.

but equally, if not much more important, the question should be
"What's wrong with a supposed prophet of the church shaking hands with Bush.?
You’re making a claim against Thomas S Monson or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, because he shook hands with George W Bush. You do so based off insinuation. Without substance it is baseless. You are refusing to provide substance because I don’t already “see it”. I take that to mean you cannot because there is no substance.

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Mamabear wrote: September 23rd, 2022, 6:40 pm Maybe they’ll finally admit temple rituals were derived from masonry.

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Or from Exodus, Isaiah, and Revelation.

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cyclOps wrote: September 24th, 2022, 9:33 am
Being There wrote: September 24th, 2022, 9:31 am
Being There wrote: September 24th, 2022, 9:25 am
Being There wrote: September 24th, 2022, 9:15 am

http://www.mormonthink.com/temple.htm

also

https://www.mormonstories.org/truth-cla ... y-masonry/

TEMPLE CEREMONY / MASONRY
LDS temples play an integral part in the Mormon experience, hosting the religion’s most sacred rituals and ordinances. Only members who have participated in a multi-tier personal interview process with patriarchal leaders are granted permission to enter. Therein, Mormons are instructed that the knowledge, tokens, and signs obtained within the temple will provide passage through the veil into the Kingdom of Heaven.

In the early years of the Church, numerous Mormon leaders and members of the Smith family were Freemasons, including Brigham Young, Heber Kimball and Joseph’s older brother Hyrum. Joseph Smith also joined the Freemasons, introducing the LDS temple ceremonies a mere seven weeks after receiving their rituals, secret hand grips, embraces, clothing, tokens, and penalties. The Church has no records or journal entries of revelations regarding temple ceremonies or covenants. For generations, the Church vigorously denied Masonry’s influence while declaring its own ceremonies to be a different, more purifying experience. The Church even went so far as to chastise historians who accurately documented the striking similarities.

Given that the majority of temple ordinances are for the dead, some question why the Church spends billions of dollars on spacious buildings for only the exclusive few. Jesus suggested, “Let the dead bury their dead…come follow me.” Church historian Leonard Arrington said, “I have not yet come to feel the necessity of frequent attendance at the temple. I think I get as much inspiration watching birds, or looking at the mountains and the wilderness, as participating in the rituals there.” [1]

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MASONIC HANDSHAKES WILL LOOK FAMILIAR TO MORMONS

MASONIC ORIGINS
Masonic author Mervin Hogan observed, “It must be readily acknowledged that Mormonism and Freemasonry are so intimately and inextricably interwoven and interrelated that the two can never be dissociated.”

Freemasonry formed somewhere between the 10th and 17th centuries in England and, contrary to what one may claim, possesses no link to the Biblical temple of Solomon or temple builder Hiram Abiff that its ceremonies center on. LDS author Greg Kerney writes,“Unfortunately there is no historical evidence to support a continuous functioning line from Solomon’s temple to present. We know what went on in Solomon’s temple; it’s the ritualistic slaughter of animals. Masonry, while claiming a root in antiquity, can only be reliably traced to medieval stone tradesmen.” [2] Even Kerney’s inclusion of medieval tradesman is generous, as the earliest Lodges were primarily composed of aristocratic intellectuals.

During Joseph Smith’s upbringing, Masonry was regarded as a mysterious organization full of secret combinations and viewed as a threat to free government. Scholars note that it may have worked its way into the Book of Mormon, becoming the Gadianton Robber narrative with their secret oaths, covenants, and desires to overthrow a democratic Nephite government. [3]

Joseph Smith Sr. became a Grand Master Mason in 1818. Hyrum Smith affiliated with Masonry in 1825 before running afoul of the brotherhood by not paying his debts, as evidenced by brother Joseph’s 1830 letter of warning to “..beware of the freemasons…who care more for his body than the debt…heard were in Manchester, got a warrant.” [4] Joseph again wrote Hyrum in March 1831, warning that creditors were again pursuing Smith Sr. for unpaid debts, “Come to Fayette, bring father, do not go through Buffalo for they lie in wait for you.” [5]

Oliver Cowdery’s father, at least three of his brothers, and his cousin were Masons. Heber C. Kimball, John Taylor, Wilford Woodruff, Lorenzo Snow and Newell Whitney remained Masons for life.

Joseph Smith was expedited into Masonry on March 15, 1842, and remained a member for life. Because of his father’s rank as Grand Master, he was raised to the rank of first degree Mason within one day. Smith recorded, “I officiated as grand chaplain at the installation of the Nauvoo Lodge of Free Masons. . . . In the evening I received the first degree in Freemasonry in the Nauvoo Lodge.” [6] Smith also recorded, “I was with the Masonic Lodge and rose to the sublime degree.” [7]

On May 4-5, 1842, mere weeks after obtaining the Masonic rituals, Smith introduced the LDS endowment ceremony to close friends, including Masonry’s nearly identical tokens, signs, penalties, prayer circle, new name ritual, apron, etc. Richard Bushman suggests “He had a green thumb for growing ideas from tiny seeds.” [8]

Mormonism’s bond with masonry ebbed and flowed with the political landscape, but by October 1842, Nauvoo’s 253 member lodge outnumbered the 227 Masons in all other Illinois lodges combined. Nauvoo Masons held a fundraising play on April 24, 1844 to pay Smith’s mounting legal bills. Brigham Young and other LDS Church leaders participated in lead roles. Years later, Heber C. Kimball quipped, “We have the true Masonry…they have now and then a thing that is correct, but we have the real thing.” [9] Smith’s last words when he was murdered in Carthage Jail came as he attempted to jump out of the window, “Oh Lord, my God…,” were the likely the first words of the Masonic cry of distress: “Oh Lord, my God, is there no help for the widow’s son?”

Some of the similarities between Masonry and Mormonism (specifically in the temple) include the following:

All Seeing Eye
Apron
Beehive
Square / Compass
Emblem of the clasped hands
Five points of fellowship
Special garments applied to initiates
Garment markings
Special hand grips
The phrase: “Holiness to the Lord”
A new name given
Blood/death oaths of secrecy with gestures and words describing specific penalties agreed to if secrets are revealed. Mormons going through the temple post-1990 may not be familiar with these.
Location (possession of) Throne of the “Holy of Holies”
Star, Sun, Moon symbols
Tabernacles, Temples
Mormon temple ceremonies have changed significantly over the years, but anyone who has experienced the LDS temple endowment will recognize the Masonic rituals. All the signs and tokens are essentially shared with Masonry or only slightly embellished. Mormon temple ceremonies are so similar that one historian called the endowment Celestial Masonry. [10]

LEARN MORE:

Mormon Expression: Mormonism and Masonry
Scottish Mason Lodge History
Development of Temple Endowment
See Duncan’s Masonic Ritual and Monitor of 1866
Signology.org – Masonic Signs
DENIALS OF MASONIC ORIGINS
Mormonism has long shared an awkward relationship with Freemasonry, unsure when to embrace or shun shun it completely. Prohibited from discussing the temple rituals, many members take it upon faith that ambiguous symbolism and hidden meanings stem from sacred and ancient origins.

The LDS Church has generally adopted the position that its temple rituals remain uninfluenced by Masonry. Efforts to propagate such thinking include the 1934 publication of Relationship of Mormonism and Masonry by general authority Anthony Ivins. The introduction of his book admonishes members to “refrain from identifying themselves with any secret, oath-bound society,” as such affiliation “tends to draw people away from the performance of Church duties.”

The Church’s sensitivity to its Masonic roots eased little over the decades. In 1974, Reed Durham, President of Mormon History Association and Director of Institute at University of Utah, delivered a speech on Masonry at their annual gathering. The Church reacted strongly, forcing him to write an apology before demoting him, effectively ending his career. [11] The Church today suggests that Masonic events and ideas served as a mere catalyst for further revelation.

BLOOD OATH
A penal oath, commonly referred to as a blood oath, was a known Masonic ritual requiring members to swear to surrender their lives rather than reveal the secret tokens and signs given them. Ceremony participants covenanted, “I will never reveal the [token]… Rather than do so, I would suffer my life to be taken.” The sworn obligation to secrecy and psychologically controlling aspects surrounding the temple experience are textbook indoctrination.

Members grew increasingly unconformable with the cryptic ritual, resulting in declining temple attendance, so the Church conducted a survey in 1988 to gauge member sentiment. The penal oath and explicitly performed penalties – pantomiming slitting of the throat, disemboweling oneself and ripping out the heart – were removed from LDS ceremony in 1990. Though no longer clearly identified in LDS ceremony today, remnants of the signs and penalty motions remain. At one point in the ceremony, temple patrons are instructed during a hand gesture to extend the thumb, which represents the blade with which you cut the throat and belly.

LEARN MORE:

LDS Temple Blood Oath
Mormon temple endowment ceremony transcript
1988 Temple Survey
LDS Temple Penalties
OATH OF VENGEANCE
Soon after Joseph Smith’s death in 1844, Brigham Young added an Oath of Vengeance to the LDS temple ceremony. “You and each of you do covenant and promise that you will pray and never cease to pray to Almighty God to avenge the blood of the prophets upon this nation, and that you will teach the same to your children and to your children’s children unto the third and fourth generation.” The sacred practice was not eliminated until the early 1930s.

LEARN MORE:

MormonThink: Oath of Vengeance
SECRET NEW NAME
During the temple endowment ceremony, each member receives a new name which they are instructed to always remember, keep sacred and never reveal, except at a specific place inside the temple. Since January 1, 1965, each male and female who goes through the temple on any given day receives the exact same new name for each sex, regardless of which temple they attend across the globe.

These “secret” names are provided to the temple workers daily during a special prayer meeting. Every temple has a set of placards containing the male and female names, in addition to a number representing the day of the month. The new name each temple patron receives depends only on their gender, whether the ordinance is live or proxy, and the day of the month. An exception occurs if the name of the day coincides with the person’s actual first name, in which case he/she receives the replacement name of Adam/Eve respectively. For endowments given in languages other than English, new names are translated to their nearest equivalent in that language.

GARMENTS
Garments (specially designed underwear initially resembling long johns, and now t-shirts and boxer briefs) are to be worn at all times, day and night, to serve as a constant reminder of the covenants made within LDS temples. Members are provided specific instruction regarding how to care for the underwear, when it may be removed, and that they should not alter it in any way.

PHYSICAL PROTECTION
Early temple endowment practices had much more to do with polygamy than eternal families, and William Law’s public accusations brought the contentious issue to a head. Before coming out of hiding and surrendering to authorities, Smith instructed those who accompanied him to remove their garments. [12] Joseph, Hyrum and John Taylor removed their garments, while Willard Richards retained his. As the mob rushed into the small cell, Willard hid behind the heavy door and thus avoided harm. Folklore spread about how Smith’s death resulted from his not wearing garments.

Historian D. Michael Quinn writes, “In Mormon folklore the temple garment sometimes functions as a classic amulet that has power in itself. To some Mormons, the garment has power to protect only what it touches.” [13] Testimonies of physical protection powers occurred prior to Smith’s death, but accelerated dramatically thereafter. The Church has also promoted the physical protection aspect of garments. Bill Marriott declared in a 60 Minutes interview that his underwear protected him from certain harm, while Mike Wallace displays his professionalism during the exchange.



Paul H. Dunn also claimed that garments protected him in battle. As many of his sports/war stories were revealed to be fabrications, it became a turning point away from LDS literal protection claims.

Today, Mormons are offered ambiguous notions of spiritual protection and covenant reminders by wearing their temple garments day and night. By 1998, the Church was officially discounting the idea that garments offer physical protection, but that they merely guard against temptation and evil. [14]

LEARN MORE
LDS Endowment Timeline
IRR.org – Mormon Temple Endowment
My Temple Experience
Why So Many Duplicate Ordinances Performed?
[1] Leonard Arrington, Writing of Mormon History, 132.
[2] LDS author on FAIR and Mason.
[3] No Man Knows My History, 281.
[4] Smith to Colesville Saints, Dec 2, 1830.
[5] Jessee, The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith.
[6] History of the Church, Deseret Book, 1978, Vol.4, Ch. 32, p. 550.
[7] History of the Church, vol 4, ch 32, 552.
[8] Rough Stone Rolling, 436, 449.
[9] Salt Lake City, Nov 9, 1858.
[10] Leonard Arrington, Writing of Mormon History, 257.
[11] Leonard Arrington, Writing of Mormon History, 259.
[12] Heber Kimball journal, Dec 21, 1845.
[13] Early Mormonism and the Magic World View, 276.
[14] Church Handbook of Instruction, Book 1, 69.
Mormonism and Freemasonry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_Freemasonry
what close friends the church has. SMH


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Wait, Thomas S Monson shook George W Bush’s hand? Say it ain’t so!
exactly - Say it ain’t so!
but it is so.

Only someone shallow enough, and who has been deceived and scammed by all this
wouldn't understand,
and wouldn't understand what would be wrong with shaking hands with someone as evil as Bush;
much less - with someone who members of the LDS church falsely call a "prophet" Monson.

and this is nothing.
There is so much info. showing how evil Bush is.

not to even mention that he was responsible for 9 11 and demolition of the buildings.
whole video - but check out around 15 min 30 sec.

How They Did It: George W. Bush & The 9/11 Attacks
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4ntTNjhpP4zx/

Bush
The Bush Crime Family:
Three Generations of Treason


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Rothschild puppets George H. W. Bush & Ronald Reagan visited Lawrence E. King Jr.'s pedo parties!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/0ex9egmxHKOb/
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The Penn State Case

The Oklahoma DHS scandal is nothing new. Agency or corporate controlled sex rings are hidden in plain sight. They often receive legitimacy from various government agencies and top corporate entities. Here is an example of how the child sex rings are hidden in the plain light of day.


Jerry Sandusky’s “The Second Mile Foundation” was recognized as one of President Bush’s top “1000 Points of Light.” Interestingly, Marvin P. Bush was on the National Collegiate Athletic Association Board of Directors which helped make the selection.
Former president, George H. W. “Pappy” Bush is no stranger to accusations of pedophilia as evidenced by the accompanying headline below this paragraph.

Court records show that former Penn State football coach Jerry Sandusky molested dozens, if not hundreds of children from at 1977 to 2011 when this animal was finally caught, convicted and sentenced.

Most Americans think that when Sandusky, received a 30 to 60 year prison term after being found guilty on 45 counts of the sexual exploitation of minors, that the case was closed. And that is what the child sex trafficking industry and their allies in the corporate controlled media would have the public believe.

In actuality, the Sandusky case was quickly concluded in order to prevent any investigation from going forth which would reveal the extent to which pedophilia, for fun and profit, have ensnared the rich and famous powerful elite, both in this country and abroad.
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WHAT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND THE WEF HAVE PLANNED FOR AMERICA!

Deagel, a CIA psyops front group, projects an American population loss of 90% and it could all be over by the middle of the next decade. Here is the report followed by supporting documentation. The Deep State is taking a beating. I ask everyone how far the Deep State is willing to go to preserve itself. The answer that everyone responds with is "there is nothing that they will not do to stay in power. The Deagel projections for America seem to reflect the desperation and effectiveness of what the Deep state has planned. Here is a brief video report on Deagel followed by documentation.

Just who or what is/was Deagel?

OR, MORE ACCURATELY, WHAT WAS DEAGEL. THEY ARE COVERING THEIR TRACKS. HOWEVER, WE HAVE THE REMANENTS OF THEIR DEPOPULATION PLANS.

"The power and influence of the corporation that you never heard of, is staggering.
This is the modern day Zapata Oil, which was a CIA front corporation run by George H. W. Bush
which in turn facilitated much of the Air America “drugs for guns” program in Latin America in the 1980’s."


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"Bush is a known secret combination person.
He is evil. Speculation as of his actions seems pretty easy.
Evil."

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I offer up this quote for your collective consideration:
“Because of their Masonic characters the ceremonies of the temple are sacred and not for the public.”
October 15, 1911; Messages of First Presidency, 4: 250.

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gkearney wrote: September 24th, 2022, 4:36 pm I offer up this quote for your collective consideration:
“Because of their Masonic characters the ceremonies of the temple are sacred and not for the public.”
October 15, 1911; Messages of First Presidency, 4: 250.
Well at least they admitted it wasn’t inspired by God.

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To come back to this idea of General Conference, I just read a rumor on social media that indicates that there could be as many as 50 temples announced at the upcoming Conference, and the rumor source was a stake conference where Elder Bednar was in attendance.

50 seems like a high number. My bet is that they go for 18 making it an even 300 temples announced, under construction, in renovation, or in operation.

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Subcomandante wrote: September 24th, 2022, 5:20 pm To come back to this idea of General Conference, I just read a rumor on social media that indicates that there could be as many as 50 temples announced at the upcoming Conference, and the rumor source was a stake conference where Elder Bednar was in attendance.

50 seems like a high number. My bet is that they go for 18 making it an even 300 temples announced, under construction, in renovation, or in operation.
50?! Holy moly that would be nuts if they really announce that many!!!

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Cruiserdude wrote: September 24th, 2022, 5:25 pm
Subcomandante wrote: September 24th, 2022, 5:20 pm To come back to this idea of General Conference, I just read a rumor on social media that indicates that there could be as many as 50 temples announced at the upcoming Conference, and the rumor source was a stake conference where Elder Bednar was in attendance.

50 seems like a high number. My bet is that they go for 18 making it an even 300 temples announced, under construction, in renovation, or in operation.
50?! Holy moly that would be nuts if they really announce that many!!!
Yep, it would be. I can totally see it happening though. Imagine the publicity that would create.

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CuriousThinker wrote: September 24th, 2022, 5:42 pm
Cruiserdude wrote: September 24th, 2022, 5:25 pm
Subcomandante wrote: September 24th, 2022, 5:20 pm To come back to this idea of General Conference, I just read a rumor on social media that indicates that there could be as many as 50 temples announced at the upcoming Conference, and the rumor source was a stake conference where Elder Bednar was in attendance.

50 seems like a high number. My bet is that they go for 18 making it an even 300 temples announced, under construction, in renovation, or in operation.
50?! Holy moly that would be nuts if they really announce that many!!!
Yep, it would be. I can totally see it happening though. Imagine the publicity that would create.
publicity. yes.

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But let's say for example there are 50 announced...

Here is where I would put them:

Fairbanks AK (recently created stake in North Pole, a bit closer for Whitehorse YK CA). 2 stakes plus isolated branches.
Chandler / Temple AZ (several stakes in southwest end of PHX somewhat isolated from existing temples)
Surprise AZ (three stakes in Surprise, plus a few others on the west end of PHX)
Bakersfield CA (three stakes locally, another three in Palmdale area and one in Tehachapi)
South Bay CA (this depends more on Oakland temple attendance, if it is good, a small temple might suit the stakes on the south end of San Francisco Bay).
Colorado Springs CO (five stakes locally, another one in Pueblo, Alamosa stakes could also be brought in).
Jacksonville FL (three stakes locally plus a couple surrounding stakes).
Honolulu HI (quite a few stakes on the south end of Oahu Island)
Blackfoot ID (recent Church purchase of land there big enough to put a temple on, five local stakes, a couple surrounding stakes)
Rigby ID (ditto with Blackfoot, 4 local stakes, some surrounding stakes)
Nampa ID (several stakes in region west of Boise and Meridian)
Des Moines IA (3 stakes locally, relatively far from both Winter Quarters and Nauvoo)
Grand Rapids MI (3 stakes locally, relatively far from Detroit, could take in an additional two stakes and a district)
Jackson MS (only 1 stake locally plus two stakes relatively close by in MS and one in NE LA, distance is a factor here)
West Las Vegas NV (to take in the western stakes of Las Vegas, existing Las Vegas temple would cover eastern part plus Moapa)
Charlotte NC (several stakes nearby without affecting Raleigh - NOTE: This is one of two temples (the other one being Jackson MS) mentioned by Featherstone in his time capsule letter that have not been built yet).
Cincinnati OH (5 stakes locally)
Tulsa OK (two stakes locally plus a third in Bartlesville), relative distance from OKC, Bentonville, and Wichita).
El Paso TX (three stakes in El Paso, one in nearby Las Cruces NM, security situation in Juarez not so good).
Price UT (rather isolated, some local stakes)
South Utah Valley (SPN FORK / SPRINGVILLE / MAPLETON) several local stakes
Herriman UT (one of two places mentioned by the late President Hinckley, one already built in Oquirrh)

That leaves 28 for areas outside the United States.

Cancun MX (six stakes that are part of the Cancun mission)
Poza Rica MX (eight stakes that are part of the Xalapa mission)
Ciudad Universitaria MX (covers the southern Mexico City area not currently covered by the Aragon temple in the NE or the Benemerito Temple under construction in the NW plus all the stakes south of there (Cuernavaca, Toluca, Guerrero stakes)
Mexicali MX (covers three nearby stakes on MX side plus two on US side (Imperial Valley CA Yuma AZ)
Chihuahua MX (covers four stakes nearby plus multiple districts in the mountains)
Huehuetenango GT (covers three local stakes plus several districts in NW Guatemala)
Santa Ana ES (covers multiple stakes in western El Salvador)
Medellin CO (some stakes in local area, distance from existing temples)
Piura Peru (several stakes locally, relatively distant from Trujillo)
Iquitos Peru (perhaps the most geographically isolated area with multiple stakes with no temple, deep in the Amazon jungles, only accessible by plane or boat).
Huancayo Peru (three stakes locally, relatively isolated)
Punta Arenas CL (multiple stakes in the region that are quite isolated--this is the southern tip of South America after all!)
Santa Fe AR (multiple stakes here and in nearby Rosario. Rosario is the bigger city but Santa Fe is a bit more isolated).
Florianopolis BR (multiple stakes here and in the local state of Santa Catarina)
Ribeiro Preto BR (multiple stakes here, fair distance away from Campinas and Sao Paulo)
Teresina BR (three stakes locally, several more within Teresina mission)
Barcelona VE (eight stakes within that local mission)
Maracaibo VE (multiple stakes here)
Yamousoukro CI (one stake locally, other stakes nearby, multiple districts nearby, in an area of rapid Church growth).
Abuja NG (three stakes locally, area of rapid Church growth especially here and points south)
Port Harcourt NG (multiple stakes in the zone, current Aba temple very small for that many stakes)
Cape Coast GH (a strong area of the Church in Ghana, relatively far from Accra and Kumasi)
Tiranë AL (existing stake locally, would also bring in members from the entire region).
Milan IT (would grab local stakes in Milan and Torino)
Far North Luzon PH (many stakes outside of the Baguio-Urdaneta area to the north)
South Manila PH (many stakes to the south, existing temples in the middle and north of the city)
Ulan Battar MN (One of the most isolated areas of multiple stakes in the world, temple could also bring in members from northern China and Siberia and perhaps Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan)
Osaka JP (multiple stakes locally, relatively far from Tokyo and Fukuoka)

That should be 50 there.

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Cruiserdude wrote: September 24th, 2022, 5:25 pm
Subcomandante wrote: September 24th, 2022, 5:20 pm To come back to this idea of General Conference, I just read a rumor on social media that indicates that there could be as many as 50 temples announced at the upcoming Conference, and the rumor source was a stake conference where Elder Bednar was in attendance.

50 seems like a high number. My bet is that they go for 18 making it an even 300 temples announced, under construction, in renovation, or in operation.
50?! Holy moly that would be nuts if they really announce that many!!!
I agree, 50 would be WAY too many in one conference. But with the current leadership as well as the current signs of the times you never know what will happen.

I'm still sticking to 18 as my prediction. But I've hit the under in every prediction so far during the Nelson presidency.

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Rapid City needs a temple.

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After today’s rumored coup in China, Xi will be called to an LDS leadership position in Delaware.

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Christianlee wrote: September 24th, 2022, 6:52 pm After today’s rumored coup in China, Xi will be called to an LDS leadership position in Delaware.
good one. Not outside the realm of possibilities. I wonder if Xi has a ring like the Pope's? If so, then he's a shoe-in

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Subcomandante wrote: September 24th, 2022, 6:48 pm
Cruiserdude wrote: September 24th, 2022, 5:25 pm
Subcomandante wrote: September 24th, 2022, 5:20 pm To come back to this idea of General Conference, I just read a rumor on social media that indicates that there could be as many as 50 temples announced at the upcoming Conference, and the rumor source was a stake conference where Elder Bednar was in attendance.

50 seems like a high number. My bet is that they go for 18 making it an even 300 temples announced, under construction, in renovation, or in operation.
50?! Holy moly that would be nuts if they really announce that many!!!
I agree, 50 would be WAY too many in one conference. But with the current leadership as well as the current signs of the times you never know what will happen.

I'm still sticking to 18 as my prediction. But I've hit the under in every prediction so far during the Nelson presidency.
Are they going to announce the resurrection of thousands of saints to staff and work those temples too?

My understanding is the number of temple recommend holding / attending saints is waaaaaay down.

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Conference - watch it.
as always, there will be many good talks about the gospel of Jesus Christ - which is always good.

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FrankOne wrote: September 24th, 2022, 10:46 pm
Christianlee wrote: September 24th, 2022, 6:52 pm After today’s rumored coup in China, Xi will be called to an LDS leadership position in Delaware.
good one. Not outside the realm of possibilities. I wonder if Xi has a ring like the Pope's? If so, then he's a shoe-in
A portion of the Delaware state line is circular, making the first state an obvious portion of One Eternal Round. 8-)

Add daughter born on Flag Day in the First State to me list of peculiarities. For whoever’s keeping track. :lol:

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Being There wrote: September 25th, 2022, 10:58 am Conference - watch it.
as always, there will be many good talks about the gospel of Jesus Christ - which is always good.
BUT,
if you are looking - as so many members are, for some hint about the future -
thinking that these men receive revelation, and are in any way more important or worthy than you,
or more inspired than you are, and know something you don't,
then I think you are looking for something that's just not there, and are wasting your time.

Really, the truth.
Inherently, I don't think that these men are any more worse than you or I am.
But they all speak as one voice, and that voice is - not God's or from God,
but whatever their prophet says; and we all know what that is - and it's of the World - and not of God.

What makes it worse - for them, is that - they're suppose to be inspired men of God -
leaders of - what they say is the only true and living church on Earth; with a living prophet -
men that many members look up to,
but it's obvious (at least to anyone that's not asleep - and that doesn't just blindly follow them)
that they have been deceived, and are not led by the Lord - and do not receive revelation from Him -
nor do they do His work - but have joined and do the work of the leaders of the World
aan who they serve -
the one who controls this World.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2 Thessalonians 2

Nelson's example alone - asking his followers to be "GOOD GLOBAL CITIZENS"
and follow him and join with those World leaders - who he follows - and who serve satan -
speaks for itself.

* "WE HAVE PRAYED FOR THIS LITERAL GODSEND.
RECEIVING THE VACCINE IS PART OF OUR PERSONAL EFFORTS TO BE
GOOD GLOBAL CITIZENS"
RMN

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***
21 And others will he pacify, and lull them away into carnal security, that they will say:
All is well in Zion; yea, Zion prospereth,
all is well—and thus the devil cheateth their souls, and leadeth them away carefully down to hell.
***

24 Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!
25 Wo be unto him that crieth: All is well!
2 Nephi 28

uniting with the whore Church - that "great and abominable church" of the devil
https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtop ... e#p1134666

"Let's Go Shopping"
https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtop ... g#p1267669
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as I said a year ago conference time -

"why would anyone want to stay in a church where the leaders are Hypocrites ! -
deceived and deceiving others.

They put on one face - giving nice talks in conference about Christ and to follow Him,
and turn around and put on another face - literally ***
asking us to be Good Global Citizens and join satan and follow him!

CAN'T YOU SEE THIS !

Jesus said -
"he that is not with me is against me"

***
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It's the truth my friends, and if you can't see it - YOU'RE BLIND !

if the church has aligned with the enemy - (which it has) - I don't want anything to do with it -
or my name found in the records - which the enemy will then have.

hyp·o·crite
1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion.
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings.

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No prophet of God could ever be a Good Global Citizen
https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtop ... 7#p1144967


satan is the god of this World,
and a prophet of God would not be serving satan and the leaders that serve him and are controlling it.

How can you be a Good Global Citizen and be a prophet of God at the same time -
How can you follow the ways of this evil World and be a part of Babylon serving and following satan
and say that you're the true church and God leads the church through His prophet !

Good Global Citizens
https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtop ... =1&t=54748

"Global" ANYTHING is synonymous with NWO, and the EVIL plan the "Globalist" have for the entire World;
WHICH INCLUDED THIS PLANNEDEMIC and EVIL INJECTION ! , that the church is on board with all of it !

"GOOD GLOBAL CITIZENS" = uniting with the whore Church - that "great and abominable church" of the devil.

"If you are in a church organization which looks on world unity
and ecumenical efforts as desirable, YOU ARE IN the Whore Church,
and you will either get OUT of her, or you will be damned to hell and consumed by the wrath of a holy God. "

"Soon, all world religion will unite into THE whore, the last great wicked harlot monster of religious compromise."


Ether 8

24 Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you
that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation.

I see some members - like I see in this forum, are still blind and asleep, and still think that "all is well in Zion"
and still believe in their false prophet RMN; (even after everything we've seen the church do.) SMH.

It's obvious that they put more faith and trust in him and the church
than they do in the Lord's words and what the scriptures say,
and what they can see with their own eyes. - the fruits of church leaders.

They still want to believe in a church that has become corrupt and fallen into apostasy -
just as the scriptures said the Gentiles would - warning us not to unite with the church of the devil - but we have.

WHY WOULD THE LORD SAY THIS - IF IT WERE NOT POSSIBLE ?
"And blessed are the Gentiles" - "if it so be that they shall repent"
"and do not unite themselves to that great and abominable church,"


2 Nephi 6

12 And blessed are the Gentiles, they of whom the prophet has written; for behold,
if it so be that they shall repent and fight not against Zion,
and do not unite themselves to that great and abominable church
,
they shall be saved; for the Lord God will fulfil his covenants which he has made unto his children;
and for this cause the prophet has written these things.

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Being There wrote: September 25th, 2022, 12:15 pm as I said a year ago conference time -

"why would anyone want to stay in a church where the leaders are Hypocrites ! -
deceived and deceiving others.

They put on one face - giving nice talks in conference about Christ and to follow Him,
and turn around and put on another face - literally ***
asking us to be Good Global Citizens and join satan and follow him!

CAN'T YOU SEE THIS !

Jesus said -
"he that is not with me is against me"

***
Image

It's the truth my friends, and if you can't see it - YOU'RE BLIND !

if the church has aligned with the enemy - (which it has) - I don't want anything to do with it -
or my name found in the records - which the enemy will then have.

hyp·o·crite
1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion.
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings.

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No prophet of God could ever be a Good Global Citizen
https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtop ... 7#p1144967


satan is the god of this World,
and a prophet of God would not be serving satan and the leaders that serve him and are controlling it.

How can you be a Good Global Citizen and be a prophet of God at the same time -
How can you follow the ways of this evil World and be a part of Babylon serving and following satan
and say that you're the true church and God leads the church through His prophet !

Good Global Citizens
https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtop ... =1&t=54748

"Global" ANYTHING is synonymous with NWO, and the EVIL plan the "Globalist" have for the entire World;
WHICH INCLUDED THIS PLANNEDEMIC and EVIL INJECTION ! , that the church is on board with all of it !

"GOOD GLOBAL CITIZENS" = uniting with the whore Church - that "great and abominable church" of the devil.

"If you are in a church organization which looks on world unity
and ecumenical efforts as desirable, YOU ARE IN the Whore Church,
and you will either get OUT of her, or you will be damned to hell and consumed by the wrath of a holy God. "

"Soon, all world religion will unite into THE whore, the last great wicked harlot monster of religious compromise."


Ether 8

24 Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you
that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation.

I see some members - like I see in this forum, are still blind and asleep, and still think that "all is well in Zion"
and still believe in their false prophet RMN; (even after everything we've seen the church do.) SMH.

It's obvious that they put more faith and trust in him and the church
than they do in the Lord's words and what the scriptures say,
and what they can see with their own eyes. - the fruits of church leaders.

They still want to believe in a church that has become corrupt and fallen into apostasy -
just as the scriptures said the Gentiles would - warning us not to unite with the church of the devil - but we have.

WHY WOULD THE LORD SAY THIS - IF IT WERE NOT POSSIBLE ?
"And blessed are the Gentiles" - "if it so be that they shall repent"
"and do not unite themselves to that great and abominable church,"


2 Nephi 6

12 And blessed are the Gentiles, they of whom the prophet has written; for behold,
if it so be that they shall repent and fight not against Zion,
and do not unite themselves to that great and abominable church
,
they shall be saved; for the Lord God will fulfil his covenants which he has made unto his children;
and for this cause the prophet has written these things.
The LDS Church has approximately 17 million members on its rolls, at most 6 million of them active, out of a global population of about eight BILLION.

I don't know, that doesn't sound so great to me.

Abominable, in the original Hebrew meaning, denotes something which is particularly sinful. Stealing a buck from a neighbor isn't abominable but it is sinful. Raping your neighbor's wife is abominable. Other abominable things include murder, deceit, other illicit sexual acts, idolatry, and the like.

I don't think the Church teaches murder, deceit, breaking the law of chastity, idolatry, and the like, unless maybe you might be referring to the Black Menaces group of BYU (except I don't think they teach murder, yet). So, not abominable.

Many of the early leaders tagged the Catholic Church as that great and abominable institution. It definitely meets the qualification for great, but not so much on the abominable side. This is something which IMO is still being revealed right now. Communism is but one arm of this. There are other parts as well, such as third wave feminism, the LGBT side of things, and the like. They are infiltrating many institutions including within our own Church.

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Subcomandante wrote: September 26th, 2022, 1:09 am Many of the early leaders tagged the Catholic Church as that great and abominable institution. It definitely meets the qualification for great, but not so much on the abominable side. This is something which IMO is still being revealed right now. Communism is but one arm of this. There are other parts as well, such as third wave feminism, the LGBT side of things, and the like. They are infiltrating many institutions including within our own Church.
The Church of Rome may well qualify. It played a major part in persecutions in the Middle Ages and Renaissance against anyone who didn't agree with it and was involved in the mass genocide in the Americas.

The current Pope is a Weffer and forced Vatican staff to inject the dead baby serum (leading some of his Swiss Guard to resign). He's also brought pagan Amazonian idols into the Vatican.

I've nothing against rank and file RCs who are often good people, and I admire some of their clergy such as Burke and Vigano, but they do have a dark history and their current leader is not what he pretends.

How the LDS developed Roman Catholic traits?
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Subcomandante wrote: September 26th, 2022, 1:09 am
Many of the early leaders tagged the Catholic Church as that great and abominable institution. It definitely meets the qualification for great, but not so much on the abominable side. This is something which IMO is still being revealed right now. Communism is but one arm of this. There are other parts as well, such as third wave feminism, the LGBT side of things, and the like. They are infiltrating many institutions including within our own Church.
I thought you were joking... I don't even know where to begin in calling out the corrupt and abominable practices of the Catholic church.

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Subcomandante wrote: September 24th, 2022, 6:46 pm But let's say for example there are 50 announced...

Here is where I would put them:

Fairbanks AK (recently created stake in North Pole, a bit closer for Whitehorse YK CA). 2 stakes plus isolated branches.
Chandler / Temple AZ (several stakes in southwest end of PHX somewhat isolated from existing temples)
Surprise AZ (three stakes in Surprise, plus a few others on the west end of PHX)
Bakersfield CA (three stakes locally, another three in Palmdale area and one in Tehachapi)
South Bay CA (this depends more on Oakland temple attendance, if it is good, a small temple might suit the stakes on the south end of San Francisco Bay).
Colorado Springs CO (five stakes locally, another one in Pueblo, Alamosa stakes could also be brought in).
Jacksonville FL (three stakes locally plus a couple surrounding stakes).
Honolulu HI (quite a few stakes on the south end of Oahu Island)
Blackfoot ID (recent Church purchase of land there big enough to put a temple on, five local stakes, a couple surrounding stakes)
Rigby ID (ditto with Blackfoot, 4 local stakes, some surrounding stakes)
Nampa ID (several stakes in region west of Boise and Meridian)
Des Moines IA (3 stakes locally, relatively far from both Winter Quarters and Nauvoo)
Grand Rapids MI (3 stakes locally, relatively far from Detroit, could take in an additional two stakes and a district)
Jackson MS (only 1 stake locally plus two stakes relatively close by in MS and one in NE LA, distance is a factor here)
West Las Vegas NV (to take in the western stakes of Las Vegas, existing Las Vegas temple would cover eastern part plus Moapa)
Charlotte NC (several stakes nearby without affecting Raleigh - NOTE: This is one of two temples (the other one being Jackson MS) mentioned by Featherstone in his time capsule letter that have not been built yet).
Cincinnati OH (5 stakes locally)
Tulsa OK (two stakes locally plus a third in Bartlesville), relative distance from OKC, Bentonville, and Wichita).
El Paso TX (three stakes in El Paso, one in nearby Las Cruces NM, security situation in Juarez not so good).
Price UT (rather isolated, some local stakes)
South Utah Valley (SPN FORK / SPRINGVILLE / MAPLETON) several local stakes
Herriman UT (one of two places mentioned by the late President Hinckley, one already built in Oquirrh)

That leaves 28 for areas outside the United States.

Cancun MX (six stakes that are part of the Cancun mission)
Poza Rica MX (eight stakes that are part of the Xalapa mission)
Ciudad Universitaria MX (covers the southern Mexico City area not currently covered by the Aragon temple in the NE or the Benemerito Temple under construction in the NW plus all the stakes south of there (Cuernavaca, Toluca, Guerrero stakes)
Mexicali MX (covers three nearby stakes on MX side plus two on US side (Imperial Valley CA Yuma AZ)
Chihuahua MX (covers four stakes nearby plus multiple districts in the mountains)
Huehuetenango GT (covers three local stakes plus several districts in NW Guatemala)
Santa Ana ES (covers multiple stakes in western El Salvador)
Medellin CO (some stakes in local area, distance from existing temples)
Piura Peru (several stakes locally, relatively distant from Trujillo)
Iquitos Peru (perhaps the most geographically isolated area with multiple stakes with no temple, deep in the Amazon jungles, only accessible by plane or boat).
Huancayo Peru (three stakes locally, relatively isolated)
Punta Arenas CL (multiple stakes in the region that are quite isolated--this is the southern tip of South America after all!)
Santa Fe AR (multiple stakes here and in nearby Rosario. Rosario is the bigger city but Santa Fe is a bit more isolated).
Florianopolis BR (multiple stakes here and in the local state of Santa Catarina)
Ribeiro Preto BR (multiple stakes here, fair distance away from Campinas and Sao Paulo)
Teresina BR (three stakes locally, several more within Teresina mission)
Barcelona VE (eight stakes within that local mission)
Maracaibo VE (multiple stakes here)
Yamousoukro CI (one stake locally, other stakes nearby, multiple districts nearby, in an area of rapid Church growth).
Abuja NG (three stakes locally, area of rapid Church growth especially here and points south)
Port Harcourt NG (multiple stakes in the zone, current Aba temple very small for that many stakes)
Cape Coast GH (a strong area of the Church in Ghana, relatively far from Accra and Kumasi)
Tiranë AL (existing stake locally, would also bring in members from the entire region).
Milan IT (would grab local stakes in Milan and Torino)
Far North Luzon PH (many stakes outside of the Baguio-Urdaneta area to the north)
South Manila PH (many stakes to the south, existing temples in the middle and north of the city)
Ulan Battar MN (One of the most isolated areas of multiple stakes in the world, temple could also bring in members from northern China and Siberia and perhaps Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan)
Osaka JP (multiple stakes locally, relatively far from Tokyo and Fukuoka)

That should be 50 there.
Far West, Missouri = the Temple site has already been dedicated, land owned by the Church.
OR
Independence, Missouri - the Temple site has already been dedicated, but the land is not now owned by the Church; that could change. This would be a huge announcement.

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BroJones wrote: September 26th, 2022, 10:23 am
Subcomandante wrote: September 24th, 2022, 6:46 pm But let's say for example there are 50 announced...

Here is where I would put them:

Fairbanks AK (recently created stake in North Pole, a bit closer for Whitehorse YK CA). 2 stakes plus isolated branches.
Chandler / Temple AZ (several stakes in southwest end of PHX somewhat isolated from existing temples)
Surprise AZ (three stakes in Surprise, plus a few others on the west end of PHX)
Bakersfield CA (three stakes locally, another three in Palmdale area and one in Tehachapi)
South Bay CA (this depends more on Oakland temple attendance, if it is good, a small temple might suit the stakes on the south end of San Francisco Bay).
Colorado Springs CO (five stakes locally, another one in Pueblo, Alamosa stakes could also be brought in).
Jacksonville FL (three stakes locally plus a couple surrounding stakes).
Honolulu HI (quite a few stakes on the south end of Oahu Island)
Blackfoot ID (recent Church purchase of land there big enough to put a temple on, five local stakes, a couple surrounding stakes)
Rigby ID (ditto with Blackfoot, 4 local stakes, some surrounding stakes)
Nampa ID (several stakes in region west of Boise and Meridian)
Des Moines IA (3 stakes locally, relatively far from both Winter Quarters and Nauvoo)
Grand Rapids MI (3 stakes locally, relatively far from Detroit, could take in an additional two stakes and a district)
Jackson MS (only 1 stake locally plus two stakes relatively close by in MS and one in NE LA, distance is a factor here)
West Las Vegas NV (to take in the western stakes of Las Vegas, existing Las Vegas temple would cover eastern part plus Moapa)
Charlotte NC (several stakes nearby without affecting Raleigh - NOTE: This is one of two temples (the other one being Jackson MS) mentioned by Featherstone in his time capsule letter that have not been built yet).
Cincinnati OH (5 stakes locally)
Tulsa OK (two stakes locally plus a third in Bartlesville), relative distance from OKC, Bentonville, and Wichita).
El Paso TX (three stakes in El Paso, one in nearby Las Cruces NM, security situation in Juarez not so good).
Price UT (rather isolated, some local stakes)
South Utah Valley (SPN FORK / SPRINGVILLE / MAPLETON) several local stakes
Herriman UT (one of two places mentioned by the late President Hinckley, one already built in Oquirrh)

That leaves 28 for areas outside the United States.

Cancun MX (six stakes that are part of the Cancun mission)
Poza Rica MX (eight stakes that are part of the Xalapa mission)
Ciudad Universitaria MX (covers the southern Mexico City area not currently covered by the Aragon temple in the NE or the Benemerito Temple under construction in the NW plus all the stakes south of there (Cuernavaca, Toluca, Guerrero stakes)
Mexicali MX (covers three nearby stakes on MX side plus two on US side (Imperial Valley CA Yuma AZ)
Chihuahua MX (covers four stakes nearby plus multiple districts in the mountains)
Huehuetenango GT (covers three local stakes plus several districts in NW Guatemala)
Santa Ana ES (covers multiple stakes in western El Salvador)
Medellin CO (some stakes in local area, distance from existing temples)
Piura Peru (several stakes locally, relatively distant from Trujillo)
Iquitos Peru (perhaps the most geographically isolated area with multiple stakes with no temple, deep in the Amazon jungles, only accessible by plane or boat).
Huancayo Peru (three stakes locally, relatively isolated)
Punta Arenas CL (multiple stakes in the region that are quite isolated--this is the southern tip of South America after all!)
Santa Fe AR (multiple stakes here and in nearby Rosario. Rosario is the bigger city but Santa Fe is a bit more isolated).
Florianopolis BR (multiple stakes here and in the local state of Santa Catarina)
Ribeiro Preto BR (multiple stakes here, fair distance away from Campinas and Sao Paulo)
Teresina BR (three stakes locally, several more within Teresina mission)
Barcelona VE (eight stakes within that local mission)
Maracaibo VE (multiple stakes here)
Yamousoukro CI (one stake locally, other stakes nearby, multiple districts nearby, in an area of rapid Church growth).
Abuja NG (three stakes locally, area of rapid Church growth especially here and points south)
Port Harcourt NG (multiple stakes in the zone, current Aba temple very small for that many stakes)
Cape Coast GH (a strong area of the Church in Ghana, relatively far from Accra and Kumasi)
Tiranë AL (existing stake locally, would also bring in members from the entire region).
Milan IT (would grab local stakes in Milan and Torino)
Far North Luzon PH (many stakes outside of the Baguio-Urdaneta area to the north)
South Manila PH (many stakes to the south, existing temples in the middle and north of the city)
Ulan Battar MN (One of the most isolated areas of multiple stakes in the world, temple could also bring in members from northern China and Siberia and perhaps Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan)
Osaka JP (multiple stakes locally, relatively far from Tokyo and Fukuoka)

That should be 50 there.
Far West, Missouri = the Temple site has already been dedicated, land owned by the Church.
OR
Independence, Missouri - the Temple site has already been dedicated, but the land is not now owned by the Church; that could change. This would be a huge announcement.
Both would be big announcements, though I suspect not in the offing, for now. If that Great Salt (Pond) gets any smaller I would not be surprised if the Church decided to move its HQ back to Missouri. Earliest I see that happening is 2024.

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