Great post FrankOne.FrankOne wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2022, 5:05 pmWhat a long term culture has practiced takes a long time to change excepting those times of extreme hardship. Hardship changes everyone. Through adversity.... comes learning .Jonesy wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2022, 2:56 pm There was an interesting post a while back that questions our response about polygamy either way, righteous or not. Even if confronted with the possibility of polygamy being a righteous practice, many women (and some men) would still reject it. I think there’s a lot of baggage in association with anything involving sex. Those are just some of my thoughts here, but more should be said…
Fear is the greatest motivator. Fear of poverty makes people work. Fear of losing a special relationship causes women to hold on to their man possessively. Fear keeps people together and fear drives people apart. The greatest fear takes precedence over lesser fears. A woman that fears leaving her friends and modern conveniences is superseded by the fear of losing her husband that is relocating to a 3rd world foreign country for long term work. She goes with him. She was bonded to her husband more than she was bonded to her convenient life and friends. Some women would choose to stay. You could call all of the above motivations of love as well. Interesting, huh?
The baggage of sex , for me, goes to the simple problem of "sharing" . If I engage that, this could end up being a debate on polyandry ..."good for goose , good for gander" discussion. so.. that's all from me.
The problem today is comfort and ease. Who wants to confront what's inside them when the outside is so comfortable? Life is full of pleasantness, right? The scriptures call it pain and pleasure. Who wants pain? Just about no one. Who wants pleasure... just about everyone.
True learning is painful. Most people run from learning.
Hyloglyph did something unusual. He had a regular life and what appeared to be a normal happy marriage when gauged by today's standard. Yet, he chose a very hard course and brought pain to his marriage. Pain=Learning. Who does this? Who has the powers of observation and the guts to act in order to better his marriage? This isn't to bring applause to Hyloglyph because he'd likely return the applause with a slag hammer.
On a side note, as I read Hyloglyph's posts, I keep hearing a song that I love by Joe Walsh. This song really makes me smile. It's real. Ordinary Average Guys. Folks in suits and ties are fine, but can they drive rock bolts, tie wire or draw a bead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNAkPsjAEk
I realize that some of this discussion has been abrasive to a few. Here is a clip.
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The Prophet Joseph Smith despised sham. Pretense to him was folly. Once he said, “I love that man better who swears a stream as long as my arm, yet deals justice to his neighbors and mercifully deals his substance to the poor, than the smooth-faced hypocrite. I do not want you to think that I’m very righteous, for I am not. There was one good man, and his name was Jesus” (Documentary History of the Church, 5:401).
And what a fantastic quote from Joseph. I hadn't read that one before, at least that I remember. His wisdom and love for his fellow men are a great modern day example for me to try to follow.