I wonder if this obsession these weirdo's have with zombies has anything to do with that craze concerning zombies several years ago? You know all the movies, and paraphenalia showing all these partially decomposed corpses? It was a disgusting fad, and one that I hated, but the Daybell crowd may have taken it seriously?inho wrote: ↑August 28th, 2022, 11:48 am I am watching Suzanne Freeman's interview on Hidden True Crime youtube channel. I was shocked to learn that Julie Rowe held some kind of energy healing Zoom session with the topic "Zombies" on April 30, 2022. Zombies! What was she thinking when she used that word? I don't know what is her definition of a zombie, it might be something totally else than what Chad and Lori believe, but still. That is a loaded word now.
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I don't know if anyone has caught the whole interview with Suzanne Freeman on Hidden True Crime. In Part 2 she lays down some pretty good groundwork that both Chad and Julie Rowe stole from her books. I heard this from other people, but it was interesting to hear it from her. If that's as true as she said, it should be a pretty easy case for her to win. I would love to see JR in court
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/cult-mom-lor ... eased-bail.
Lori Vallow's son Colby Ryan has been charged with sexual assault.
Lori Vallow's son Colby Ryan has been charged with sexual assault.
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Lori’s niece, Melani, whose husband was shot at allegedly by Alex Cox, has been charged with felony computer tampering.
Lori’s niece, Melani, whose husband was shot at allegedly by Alex Cox, has been charged with felony computer tampering.
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I watched the Netflix two part documentary "sins of my mother" which Colby and Lori's mother were quite prominent in. It was interesting to see how this all played out from Colby's perspective and to see Lori's mom back track and say that she really doesn't know how any of this happened....basically thats what she says in many different ways...there are texts from Lori and chad that I hadn't heard about before that incriminate them in alex's death imo....and colbys phone conversations while Lori is in jail...lori continues to deflect and just basically say that Colby doesn't know all the facts even though the bodies of Tylee and JJ had been found at this point....this documentary just shows the inside ball of how delusional Lori really has been and is and just the sad impact this has had on her son Colby who was recently in the news for sexual assault/rape...i don't know how he keeps it together.....obviously he isn't doing well right now....Julie Rowe was also featured a little bit and she played the victim well....she is a blatant opportunist and I really think she had some type of weird connection besides business with chad....she just seems like someone who has a grudge and isn't going to let it go....she looks more like a witch/peeping wizard every time I see her In something....i can't imagine how her family must feel watching the Jr tarin wreck that just continues on and on....this documentary seemed well done...if you want background or just want to see it from inside the family dynamic it was worth the time to watch it....After following this story since it began, I think I finally understand the strange mentality that led both Lori and Chad to this point. They both felt they were destined to be great, had narcissistic personalities and strange religion fixations that fueled them in their delusions of grandeur. Both of them were living in a strange fantasyland even before they collided with each other....too bad for Charles, tammy, Tylee, jj and Alex....all just pawns in a strange game. I can't help but wonder how many times chad and lori had extramarital affairs with other people as they seemed to hit the ground running when they started their affair....there doesn't seem to be much of a Learning curve on how to have an affair..in fact they both seemed pretty comfortable lying to their spouses and even when Charles found out about chad and threatened to contact tammy, Lori didn't hesitate to neutralize him....I have no sympathy for Lori or chad....they are the worst type of people on the earth.....I'd say a level 10 dark spirit....if I had to guess....lol....i think thats pretty apparent to most people without any spiritual gifts....julie Rowe should of been able to call that out...but sadly only after the fact.....I hope justice is served for these two soon.....
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For those who would like to read this post because it looks interesting, here it is separated into paragraphs and sentences. (farmerchick often says many interesting things, but the format of her posts is incredibly unreadable unless they are very short posts, so I thought I'd help out anyone who might want to read this post without short-circuiting their brain or eyes. )
farmerchick wrote: ↑September 21st, 2022, 1:40 am I watched the Netflix two part documentary "sins of my mother" which Colby and Lori's mother were quite prominent in. It was interesting to see how this all played out from Colby's perspective and to see Lori's mom back track and say that she really doesn't know how any of this happened. Basically thats what she says in many different ways.
There are texts from Lori and chad that I hadn't heard about before that incriminate them in alex's death imo - and colbys phone conversations while Lori is in jail.
Lori continues to deflect and just basically say that Colby doesn't know all the facts even though the bodies of Tylee and JJ had been found at this point. This documentary just shows the inside ball of how delusional Lori really has been and is and just the sad impact this has had on her son Colby who was recently in the news for sexual assault/rape. I don't know how he keeps it together. Obviously he isn't doing well right now.
Julie Rowe was also featured a little bit and she played the victim well. She is a blatant opportunist and I really think she had some type of weird connection besides business with chad. She just seems like someone who has a grudge and isn't going to let it go. She looks more like a witch/peeping wizard every time I see her In something. I can't imagine how her family must feel watching the Jr tarin wreck that just continues on and on.
This documentary seemed well done. If you want background or just want to see it from inside the family dynamic it was worth the time to watch it. After following this story since it began, I think I finally understand the strange mentality that led both Lori and Chad to this point. They both felt they were destined to be great, had narcissistic personalities and strange religion fixations that fueled them in their delusions of grandeur. Both of them were living in a strange fantasyland even before they collided with each other. Too bad for Charles, tammy, Tylee, jj and Alex; all just pawns in a strange game.
I can't help but wonder how many times chad and lori had extramarital affairs with other people as they seemed to hit the ground running when they started their affair. There doesn't seem to be much of a Learning curve on how to have an affair. In fact they both seemed pretty comfortable lying to their spouses and even when Charles found out about chad and threatened to contact tammy, Lori didn't hesitate to neutralize him.
I have no sympathy for Lori or chad. They are the worst type of people on the earth. I'd say a level 10 dark spirit if I had to guess. Lol I think thats pretty apparent to most people without any spiritual gifts. Julie Rowe should of been able to call that out, but sadly only after the fact. I hope justice is served for these two soon.
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Makes you think maybe they weren't valid. Did they come from a wife who he is on the outs with?
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In the article about Melani’s charge of computer fraud, her attorney, Garrett Smith, says that Brandon was “dumb” to still have the same log-in information for his bank account 3 days after Melani was ordered by the court that she could no longer access that account online. Dumb, huh?
This is one of the two lawyers who were found guilty of defamation a short while ago, and ordered to pay Brandon Boudreaux TWELVE MILLION dollars.
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Apparently, as part of their representation of Melani, Smith, and Jarvis issued press releases about the case. In one press release, they made some very nasty representations and presented them as fact. They published the statement by sending it out to news organizations and intended it to harm Brandon’s reputation. Brandon is a sales professional and a devout member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. The representations in the news release that Brandon had a history of victimizing women, used extreme and dark pornography to which he was addicted, engaged in homosexual affairs, was engaged with his family in organized crime, and had, along with his family, covered up instances of child molestation, drug addiction, kidnapping, assault, and killing were simply untrue. Clearly, those allegations had a detrimental effect on Brandon’s business and personal reputation.
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That’s more than Amber is ordered to pay Johnny Depp.
Maybe they can just tack on a few more thousand for the “dumb” comment.
This is one of the two lawyers who were found guilty of defamation a short while ago, and ordered to pay Brandon Boudreaux TWELVE MILLION dollars.
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Apparently, as part of their representation of Melani, Smith, and Jarvis issued press releases about the case. In one press release, they made some very nasty representations and presented them as fact. They published the statement by sending it out to news organizations and intended it to harm Brandon’s reputation. Brandon is a sales professional and a devout member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. The representations in the news release that Brandon had a history of victimizing women, used extreme and dark pornography to which he was addicted, engaged in homosexual affairs, was engaged with his family in organized crime, and had, along with his family, covered up instances of child molestation, drug addiction, kidnapping, assault, and killing were simply untrue. Clearly, those allegations had a detrimental effect on Brandon’s business and personal reputation.
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That’s more than Amber is ordered to pay Johnny Depp.
Maybe they can just tack on a few more thousand for the “dumb” comment.
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He is separated from his wife and the accusation came from a woman he was hanging out with.
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By the way, if the court orders a person to no longer access an account, and their name has been taken off the account, it is still the same felony charge whether or not the login information remains the same. I would imagine Brandon had a lot on his mind with a child custody battle. He very much felt the need to keep the children from Melani as he could see that she had gone off the deep end. Heck, he suspected that she had tried to have him killed. The bullet missed his head by inches! Would you send your kids off someone you had reason to believe was that dangerous?
And Garrett Smith calls Brandon “dumb”. What a turd.
And Garrett Smith calls Brandon “dumb”. What a turd.
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I'm in a hurry all the time..lolSilver Pie wrote: ↑September 21st, 2022, 12:56 pm For those who would like to read this post because it looks interesting, here it is separated into paragraphs and sentences. (farmerchick often says many interesting things, but the format of her posts is incredibly unreadable unless they are very short posts, so I thought I'd help out anyone who might want to read this post without short-circuiting their brain or eyes. )
farmerchick wrote: ↑September 21st, 2022, 1:40 am I watched the Netflix two part documentary "sins of my mother" which Colby and Lori's mother were quite prominent in. It was interesting to see how this all played out from Colby's perspective and to see Lori's mom back track and say that she really doesn't know how any of this happened. Basically thats what she says in many different ways.
There are texts from Lori and chad that I hadn't heard about before that incriminate them in alex's death imo - and colbys phone conversations while Lori is in jail.
Lori continues to deflect and just basically say that Colby doesn't know all the facts even though the bodies of Tylee and JJ had been found at this point. This documentary just shows the inside ball of how delusional Lori really has been and is and just the sad impact this has had on her son Colby who was recently in the news for sexual assault/rape. I don't know how he keeps it together. Obviously he isn't doing well right now.
Julie Rowe was also featured a little bit and she played the victim well. She is a blatant opportunist and I really think she had some type of weird connection besides business with chad. She just seems like someone who has a grudge and isn't going to let it go. She looks more like a witch/peeping wizard every time I see her In something. I can't imagine how her family must feel watching the Jr tarin wreck that just continues on and on.
This documentary seemed well done. If you want background or just want to see it from inside the family dynamic it was worth the time to watch it. After following this story since it began, I think I finally understand the strange mentality that led both Lori and Chad to this point. They both felt they were destined to be great, had narcissistic personalities and strange religion fixations that fueled them in their delusions of grandeur. Both of them were living in a strange fantasyland even before they collided with each other. Too bad for Charles, tammy, Tylee, jj and Alex; all just pawns in a strange game.
I can't help but wonder how many times chad and lori had extramarital affairs with other people as they seemed to hit the ground running when they started their affair. There doesn't seem to be much of a Learning curve on how to have an affair. In fact they both seemed pretty comfortable lying to their spouses and even when Charles found out about chad and threatened to contact tammy, Lori didn't hesitate to neutralize him.
I have no sympathy for Lori or chad. They are the worst type of people on the earth. I'd say a level 10 dark spirit if I had to guess. Lol I think thats pretty apparent to most people without any spiritual gifts. Julie Rowe should of been able to call that out, but sadly only after the fact. I hope justice is served for these two soon.
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That article is sloppy. They are all indignant about leaving out the name of the mother of Melani Boudreaux, and they completely disregard the fact that Lori has also been charged with conspiracy to murder in the death of her husband Charles.
There are so many twists and turns and characters and situations in this debacle that no single made-for-TV documentary could ever cover it all. Heck, Dateline has aired 6 hours on this, plus a podcast.
Why would Deseret News make a big deal about Stacey Cox, who died when Melani was a baby?
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The article seemed incomplete to me. It made an issue of it but then never seemed to really offer the answers.Lizzy60 wrote: ↑September 22nd, 2022, 4:38 pmThat article is sloppy. They are all indignant about leaving out the name of the mother of Melani Boudreaux, and they completely disregard the fact that Lori has also been charged with conspiracy to murder in the death of her husband Charles.
There are so many twists and turns and characters and situations in this debacle that no single made-for-TV documentary could ever cover it all. Heck, Dateline has aired 6 hours on this, plus a podcast.
Why would Deseret News make a big deal about Stacey Cox, who died when Melani was a baby?
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My understanding is that it was his wife who said he raped her. They're just not putting that in the news stories because they're supposed to protect the identity of the victim.
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Anyone who has followed the case already knows that Stacy was Melanie's mother. Janis cox glazes over many things in this documentary on Netflix.... I think it's just the way this family operates. The dysfunction of Lori came from somewhere. I believe Barry and Janis being their authentic selves would shed some light on Lori's frame of mind or life. I mean just the way Janis first defended and now semi apoligizes for Lori doing the unthinkable to her children in this documentary tells me volumns about how this family copes with the uncopable.....they glaze over it, like it happened to a stranger after they can no longer deny it. Deseret news take on this is bizarre to me....i don't know how omitting Stacey from the documentary is relevant or really matters. There is prolly plenty of family info/drama that has not been made public.
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I just watched the first two eps of the Netflix series.
What a freak show. But I don't think those two were crazy. I mean not so crazy they didn't manage to only kill people whose demise benefitted them in some way, right.
I see psychopaths not psychos.
I haven't seen ep 3 yet tho.
What a freak show. But I don't think those two were crazy. I mean not so crazy they didn't manage to only kill people whose demise benefitted them in some way, right.
I see psychopaths not psychos.
I haven't seen ep 3 yet tho.
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I'm confused, psycho is short for psychopath.NeveR wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2022, 12:23 pm I just watched the first two eps of the Netflix series.
What a freak show. But I don't think those two were crazy. I mean not so crazy they didn't manage to only kill people whose demise benefitted them in some way, right.
I see psychopaths not psychos.
I haven't seen ep 3 yet tho.
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Psycho is usually short for psychotic.thaabit wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2022, 1:08 pmI'm confused, psycho is short for psychopath.NeveR wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2022, 12:23 pm I just watched the first two eps of the Netflix series.
What a freak show. But I don't think those two were crazy. I mean not so crazy they didn't manage to only kill people whose demise benefitted them in some way, right.
I see psychopaths not psychos.
I haven't seen ep 3 yet tho.
Psychotic = insane, deranged, delusional.
Psychopath = perfectly sane person with no conscience or empathy and consequent impaired social function
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NeveR wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2022, 3:17 pmPsycho is usually short for psychotic.thaabit wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2022, 1:08 pmI'm confused, psycho is short for psychopath.NeveR wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2022, 12:23 pm I just watched the first two eps of the Netflix series.
What a freak show. But I don't think those two were crazy. I mean not so crazy they didn't manage to only kill people whose demise benefitted them in some way, right.
I see psychopaths not psychos.
I haven't seen ep 3 yet tho.
Psychotic = insane, deranged, delusional.
Psychopath = perfectly sane person with no conscience or empathy and consequent impaired social function
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This is the problem with Google and the internet in general. They are literally rewriting history, changing definitions and original meanings of words. The saddest part is that the majority of the public internet is being controlled mostly by Google, Facebook, and a handful of other major sites.Artaxerxes wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2022, 4:35 pmScreenshot_20220923-153440.pngNeveR wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2022, 3:17 pmPsycho is usually short for psychotic.thaabit wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2022, 1:08 pmI'm confused, psycho is short for psychopath.NeveR wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2022, 12:23 pm I just watched the first two eps of the Netflix series.
What a freak show. But I don't think those two were crazy. I mean not so crazy they didn't manage to only kill people whose demise benefitted them in some way, right.
I see psychopaths not psychos.
I haven't seen ep 3 yet tho.
Psychotic = insane, deranged, delusional.
Psychopath = perfectly sane person with no conscience or empathy and consequent impaired social function
The reality is that what you can access from Google makes up less than 4% of the entire internet, most people don't even realize that. Remind anyone of 1984.
By the way, here is another definition for psycho taken from dictionary.com. This definition seems to contradict itself since a psychotic person and a psychopath are not synonymous. I'd be curious what the definition for this word was back in the 70-80's to see how it was defined then.
noun, plural psy·chos.
1 a psychopathic or psychotic person.
2 a crazy or mentally unstable person.
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I looked online for an old dictionary; only found 1828. I did come across this, though:anonymous91 wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2022, 5:40 pm By the way, here is another definition for psycho taken from dictionary.com. This definition seems to contradict itself since a psychotic person and a psychopath are not synonymous. I'd be curious what the definition for this word was back in the 70-80's to see how it was defined then.
noun, plural psy·chos.
1 a psychopathic or psychotic person.
2 a crazy or mentally unstable person.
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The judge ruled there will be no cameras in the courtroom.
https://www.eastidahonews.com/2022/09/j ... -hearings/
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