Is Donald Trump a supporter of the Constitution?

[onefour1]

Is this evidence of censorship?

[madvin]

I don’t see China and Russia as being in charge. After all, where did they get all their technology to become a threat?

The ptsb will use them and all the perversions on earth...to bury the west, and then...will bring in their benevolent one world government to save humanity.

We’ll see. I look for the Lord to intervene before that happens.

[Sarah]

I don’t see China and Russia as being in charge. After all, where did they get all their technology to become a threat?

The ptsb will use them and all the perversions on earth...to bury the west, and then...will bring in their benevolent one world government to save humanity.

We’ll see. I look for the Lord to intervene before that happens.

After the West falls, how are TPTB going to control Russia and China and everyone else?

[Sarah]

and perhaps state for me and what you think is the final goal for USA in this great charade. This has gotta be one fantastic idea and I am sure waiting with baited breath.

The final goal in this grand conspiracy, which has been conspired about for a century or more, is the downfall of the West, with all it's western values of freedom, liberty, and Christianity. The PTB that are at the top of this food chain, include those within the political realm who are able to gain great power and tyranny over their people, and have built anti-western media-complexes, and counterintelligence and organized crime complexes. These powers are centered in Russia's Kremlin and the CCP. They are the big dogs that have taken the reigns of the communist conspiracy group, and have many other nations working along side them as well. They came up with this "deep state" narrative, and got Alex Jones and others to articulate that in alternative media. The long term goal has always been to divide and conquer, and sow seeds of civil strife by deceiving people both on the right and the left, the liberals and conservatives, and also to steal as much wealth and secrets as possible, to one day see us wither up and collapse under a worthless currency, and enter into civil war. They pretend to like the Whore, which is corrupted Christianity or Christian values within the frame of a free society. They work with the whore and use her. The whore composes all those in the West under the influence of the "Great Apostasy" which uses secret combinations to work with each other to influence the population away from true Christianity into more pagan elements. Those within this apostasy also collude with anyone who wants to make money, (like Trump) and they collude with the communist authoritarian leaders. They all know what is coming, and that the West will fall. When asked what the the storm was that was coming, Trump said, "You'll find out."

What are your best truth sources? This is a sincere question.

Also, do you still like Romney?

JR or Jeff Nyquist is who got me started. Anyone that quotes him or agrees with his general views is probably okay. Diana West was another one who wrote about Russian conspiracy. I listen to some guys on YouTube that talk about what China is up to. I mainly look at current events and do my own research to see how the facts line up with everything JR has been warning us about for decades.

[Sarah]

and perhaps state for me and what you think is the final goal for USA in this great charade. This has gotta be one fantastic idea and I am sure waiting with baited breath.

The final goal in this grand conspiracy, which has been conspired about for a century or more, is the downfall of the West, with all it's western values of freedom, liberty, and Christianity. The PTB that are at the top of this food chain, include those within the political realm who are able to gain great power and tyranny over their people, and have built anti-western media-complexes, and counterintelligence and organized crime complexes. These powers are centered in Russia's Kremlin and the CCP. They are the big dogs that have taken the reigns of the communist conspiracy group, and have many other nations working along side them as well. They came up with this "deep state" narrative, and got Alex Jones and others to articulate that in alternative media. The long term goal has always been to divide and conquer, and sow seeds of civil strife by deceiving people both on the right and the left, the liberals and conservatives, and also to steal as much wealth and secrets as possible, to one day see us wither up and collapse under a worthless currency, and enter into civil war. They pretend to like the Whore, which is corrupted Christianity or Christian values within the frame of a free society. They work with the whore and use her. The whore composes all those in the West under the influence of the "Great Apostasy" which uses secret combinations to work with each other to influence the population away from true Christianity into more pagan elements. Those within this apostasy also collude with anyone who wants to make money, (like Trump) and they collude with the communist authoritarian leaders. They all know what is coming, and that the West will fall. When asked what the the storm was that was coming, Trump said, "You'll find out."

What are your best truth sources? This is a sincere question.

Also, do you still like Romney?

Forgot to answer your question about Romney. I don't really follow what he is up to, nor do I care much about US or state politics. So I can't say that I like him, but I definitely did support him and think he would have been the best choice out of the bunch. I don't believe he is part of the secret combinations, and I like that he has always been suspicious of Russia, China, and Trump.

[Sarah]

who locked us down? the chinese and russians?

Trump and Biden are puppets of the East. What we endured here in the US was nothing like what they went through in China. But that will be our fate if we think they are the good guys. The point is that it was all a plan for the world to go through this, to bring down the economy, which is starting to implode as we speak. As the West collapses, Russia and China can step forward and harness the hatred of the middle East to finally take the West and Israel down. It is a made-up lie that the Western elites had a plan to take over Russia and China, otherwise we would have built up our military. That's why the lie was put forth that it's all the WEF or Soros, to take our eye off of them. Russia and China have a lot of control over these world governing bodies. They've infiltrated and manipulated for decades.

[Sarah]

cuz since they have already conglomerated all the money and they can buy anyone and they have media complexes and great conglomerates and they are big dogs and reign in their parties, etc. and all then I am confused.

how can their end goal be what they already have?...power and money . . .I haven't seen a movie or TV show for 8 years now. Before 2012 I had no time to watch tv and lived too many miles from a movie theatre to see any. could be 16 years since I've seen a movie.

What you describe sounds like a great movie. . . perhaps you can just state the bottom line for this huge group of political criminals. And you say that these millions of people, which obviously includes our state governments now, just want money and power that they already have?

Bottom line - Putin and Xi and all the other evil people in the world are controlled by Satan, which means they are never satisfied with what they already have. They hate the whore because she is a burden to carry, so they have a long time plan to kill her. They are trying to control more land and people, and want everyone to serve them.

[EvanLM]

But that will be our fate if we think they are the good guys. Don't get this comment but whatever

That's why the lie was put forth that it's all the WEF or Soros, to take our eye off of them so soros is the good guy?

What you are missing is that I know there are at least three secret combinations on the earth right now with pretty powerful and wealthy people. I know that one is represented by Trump right now and one represented by Biden right now and the other includes XI and Putin. They are all fighting against each other for dominance and for protecting their own commerce stakes in this world.

However you can make it as simple as you want.

The mix in most peoples mind are the names that are thrown out an they can't seem to see the loyalties. Even the Rothschilds have a huge family that has split and is a part of at least wo of these groups opposing each other. But, then didn't we have prophecy that tells us that mom will be against daughter and dad against son and probably cousin against and aunt against, etc. In other word, I mean it would be hard in these days to tell loyalties even among families.

If you read the wars that Moroni was involved in then you will see a type. He was fighting a civil war while the neighboring country came into the borders and turned his attention now to the international war. you will also see in this story the loyal;ty and lack of loyalty and even the mistrust of Moroni at one point of his own leader. Thai is our experience today only on a larger scale.

the support of good leaders has been emphasized by the COJCLDS. I believe that we have to trust some president at some point or our country will be gone. You appear to support no one which is definitely a lead to ruin.

I support any group even the MAGA or Trump and some of the good people he appointed who are at least trying to change the direction of this country back to constitution. No one will step up to the plate even in the demo party. sorry if you love Biden cuz I don't.

I know of many groups of people right now that are just regular citizens trying to get the good back in this country. You seem defeated.
not me. not defeated yet. and you are just repeating the same narratives that have been thrown all over the media, alt and MSM .. . brainwashing. . . I've heard it all but thanks for thinking that you are opening my eyes . . .I get ya

[EvanLM]

btw you have only proposed that the bottom line is what they already have . . . that conclusion has come from media and could be brainwashing

For years the lamanites fought the nephites cuz they were taught to hate them by their fathers . . . simple motivation, as the media and you suggest, in our world of the worst time on earth isn't convincing to me

[Sarah]

But that will be our fate if we think they are the good guys. Don't get this comment but whatever

That's why the lie was put forth that it's all the WEF or Soros, to take our eye off of them so soros is the good guy?

What you are missing is that I know there are at least three secret combinations on the earth right now with pretty powerful and wealthy people. I know that one is represented by Trump right now and one represented by Biden right now and the other includes XI and Putin. They are all fighting against each other for dominance and for protecting their own commerce stakes in this world.

However you can make it as simple as you want.

The mix in most peoples mind are the names that are thrown out an they can't seem to see the loyalties. Even the Rothschilds have a huge family that has split and is a part of at least wo of these groups opposing each other. But, then didn't we have prophecy that tells us that mom will be against daughter and dad against son and probably cousin against and aunt against, etc. In other word, I mean it would be hard in these days to tell loyalties even among families.

If you read the wars that Moroni was involved in then you will see a type. He was fighting a civil war while the neighboring country came into the borders and turned his attention now to the international war. you will also see in this story the loyal;ty and lack of loyalty and even the mistrust of Moroni at one point of his own leader. Thai is our experience today only on a larger scale.

the support of good leaders has been emphasized by the COJCLDS. I believe that we have to trust some president at some point or our country will be gone. You appear to support no one which is definitely a lead to ruin.

I support any group even the MAGA or Trump and some of the good people he appointed who are at least trying to change the direction of this country back to constitution. No one will step up to the plate even in the demo party. sorry if you love Biden cuz I don't.

I know of many groups of people right now that are just regular citizens trying to get the good back in this country. You seem defeated.
not me. not defeated yet. and you are just repeating the same narratives that have been thrown all over the media, alt and MSM .. . brainwashing. . . I've heard it all but thanks for thinking that you are opening my eyes . . .I get ya

When I said we will get what's coming if we think they are the good guys, I wasn't referring to you but people in general. So much talk over the years on how Russia and the rest of the world are victims of the Western Imperialists and capitalists. In whole there are greedy men everywhere. All the Russian propaganda surrounding Ukraine and their other exploits. So much Putin worship online.

I respect that you still have hope. I think after the Romney/Obama election, our fate as a nation was decided.

[EvanLM]

ok . . .so you are the smartest one on the block and maybe you just want to repeat to me all that you have memorized but . . .

you are saying that they just want more and there is only one BIG group running this world . . .am I right . . is this what you think?

[EvanLM]

btw did you know that Romney owns the company tha tpicks up aborted fetuses . . good money making contract with lots of future profits
he is actually thee one who signed the contract. . . personal signature on a contract to take care opf murdered bodies

did you know thatromney legislated for abortions in the state where he was governor and had 2 lawsuits against him run by pro life groups to stop his yes abortion approval in thier state.

didyou know that Romney in his Bain Capitol bank laundered the money for child traficking and other crimes committed by the clinton family?

did you know that Trump was opposed to abortion and closed more abortion clinics in in the US as to almost stop the practice? on this information aone, Trump has made his way onto heaven . . . during his term he and his administration who also opposed abortion saved millions of babies. Can you claim the same?

but that romney makes money on the murder of babies and it is not the same as selling cigarettes at your store . . .he wasn't forced into it by a franchise . . .he chose to take these dead bodies to clincs or the dump

[EvanLM]

and make money doing it . . how noble

[Benjamin_LK]

cuz since they have already conglomerated all the money and they can buy anyone and they have media complexes and great conglomerates and they are big dogs and reign in their parties, etc. and all then I am confused.

how can their end goal be what they already have?...power and money . . .I haven't seen a movie or TV show for 8 years now. Before 2012 I had no time to watch tv and lived too many miles from a movie theatre to see any. could be 16 years since I've seen a movie.

What you describe sounds like a great movie. . . perhaps you can just state the bottom line for this huge group of political criminals. And you say that these millions of people, which obviously includes our state governments now, just want money and power that they already have?

Bottom line - Putin and Xi and all the other evil people in the world are controlled by Satan, which means they are never satisfied with what they already have. They hate the whore because she is a burden to carry, so they have a long time plan to kill her. They are trying to control more land and people, and want everyone to serve them.

It’s more simple than that. The Evil One simply wants misery. Even if nobody won, he would still see it as his win.

[Sarah]

ok . . .so you are the smartest one on the block and maybe you just want to repeat to me all that you have memorized but . . .

you are saying that they just want more and there is only one BIG group running this world . . .am I right . . is this what you think?

In the book of Revelation, what do we see? A whore riding a beast. The Beast is made up of many Kingdoms. Are any of them fighting each other before Babylon falls?

[Benjamin_LK]

who locked us down? the chinese and russians?

Trump and Biden are puppets of the East. What we endured here in the US was nothing like what they went through in China. But that will be our fate if we think they are the good guys. The point is that it was all a plan for the world to go through this, to bring down the economy, which is starting to implode as we speak. As the West collapses, Russia and China can step forward and harness the hatred of the middle East to finally take the West and Israel down. It is a made-up lie that the Western elites had a plan to take over Russia and China, otherwise we would have built up our military. That's why the lie was put forth that it's all the WEF or Soros, to take our eye off of them. Russia and China have a lot of control over these world governing bodies. They've infiltrated and manipulated for decades.

The reason is pride. The West saw Russia as a non-issue following the dissolution of the USSR, and tried to drum up support for fighting “war on terror”. This was going on all through the 90s, even at the time of the Oklahoma City Bombing newspapers and other reports on f the incident sensationalized it as being a Middle Eastern style bombing until the real culprit was revealed. They wanted it to be a particular narrative to justify Middle East War. Meanwhile there was plenty of rejoicing while Boris Yeltsin was the president of the Russian Federation and crime and poverty were horribly rampant in the 1990s, a continuation of Soviet decay from the 70s and 80s. Putin was viewed with suspicion once Boris Yeltsin handed the office over to Vladimir Putin. Putin lead a reclaiming campaign and was more aggressive than his predecessors

[Sarah]

btw did you know that Romney owns the company tha tpicks up aborted fetuses . . good money making contract with lots of future profits
he is actually thee one who signed the contract. . . personal signature on a contract to take care opf murdered bodies

did you know thatromney legislated for abortions in the state where he was governor and had 2 lawsuits against him run by pro life groups to stop his yes abortion approval in thier state.

didyou know that Romney in his Bain Capitol bank laundered the money for child traficking and other crimes committed by the clinton family?

did you know that Trump was opposed to abortion and closed more abortion clinics in in the US as to almost stop the practice? on this information aone, Trump has made his way onto heaven . . . during his term he and his administration who also opposed abortion saved millions of babies. Can you claim the same?

but that romney makes money on the murder of babies and it is not the same as selling cigarettes at your store . . .he wasn't forced into it by a franchise . . .he chose to take these dead bodies to clincs or the dump

I've looked into most of these claims and it's isn't as clear-cut as all that. From what I remember, Bain invested in a medical waste company that did dispose of fetuses at one point. But they disposed of a lot of stuff, and who knows if Bain even thought about it.

Romney ran in a pro-choice state, and he's articulated in the past multiple times that at that time in his career, he was personally pro-life but had the same views that his mom had, and that was pro-choice in politics because he believed in agency. This was a popular LDS view in the 90's as I recall. He said later he did change his mind and became pro-life, in that he doesn't support legalized on-demand abortion, and he recently supported the decision to over-turn Roe v Wade.

The thing you said about Bain laundering money - I'd like to see the evidence for that. Probably more Trump fan-fiction like that Alexander story. It's Russian/communist dis-info made popular with Alex Jones, getting libertarians and conservatives believing lies in order to support guys like Trump and Ron Paul, who are actors/opportunists/populists.

[Sarah]

who locked us down? the chinese and russians?

Trump and Biden are puppets of the East. What we endured here in the US was nothing like what they went through in China. But that will be our fate if we think they are the good guys. The point is that it was all a plan for the world to go through this, to bring down the economy, which is starting to implode as we speak. As the West collapses, Russia and China can step forward and harness the hatred of the middle East to finally take the West and Israel down. It is a made-up lie that the Western elites had a plan to take over Russia and China, otherwise we would have built up our military. That's why the lie was put forth that it's all the WEF or Soros, to take our eye off of them. Russia and China have a lot of control over these world governing bodies. They've infiltrated and manipulated for decades.

The reason is pride. The West saw Russia as a non-issue following the dissolution of the USSR, and tried to drum up support for fighting “war on terror”. This was going on all through the 90s, even at the time of the Oklahoma City Bombing newspapers and other reports on f the incident sensationalized it as being a Middle Eastern style bombing until the real culprit was revealed. They wanted it to be a particular narrative to justify Middle East War. Meanwhile there was plenty of rejoicing while Boris Yeltsin was the president of the Russian Federation and crime and poverty were horribly rampant in the 1990s, a continuation of Soviet decay from the 70s and 80s. Putin was viewed with suspicion once Boris Yeltsin handed the office over to Vladimir Putin. Putin lead a reclaiming campaign and was more aggressive than his predecessors

Yes, but it should also be noted that the communist plan to take down the west involves creating reasons for America to go to war - like terrorism - in order to make America a villain, to weaken us, and give them the opportunity to come in and take more control after we make a mess of things wherever we meddle. There have been compromised individuals in our government for decades, on board with this "war on terror" (before it was the "war on communists" which was the previous strategy with the same end-goal), who have been doing the bidding of the Kremlin and Communist party in China, whether they knew it or not. Putin used the same war on terror rhetoric soon after he came into power around 2000, and used that "war" to justify destroying Chechnya and invading Georgia.

[Benjamin_LK]

who locked us down? the chinese and russians?

Trump and Biden are puppets of the East. What we endured here in the US was nothing like what they went through in China. But that will be our fate if we think they are the good guys. The point is that it was all a plan for the world to go through this, to bring down the economy, which is starting to implode as we speak. As the West collapses, Russia and China can step forward and harness the hatred of the middle East to finally take the West and Israel down. It is a made-up lie that the Western elites had a plan to take over Russia and China, otherwise we would have built up our military. That's why the lie was put forth that it's all the WEF or Soros, to take our eye off of them. Russia and China have a lot of control over these world governing bodies. They've infiltrated and manipulated for decades.

The reason is pride. The West saw Russia as a non-issue following the dissolution of the USSR, and tried to drum up support for fighting “war on terror”. This was going on all through the 90s, even at the time of the Oklahoma City Bombing newspapers and other reports on f the incident sensationalized it as being a Middle Eastern style bombing until the real culprit was revealed. They wanted it to be a particular narrative to justify Middle East War. Meanwhile there was plenty of rejoicing while Boris Yeltsin was the president of the Russian Federation and crime and poverty were horribly rampant in the 1990s, a continuation of Soviet decay from the 70s and 80s. Putin was viewed with suspicion once Boris Yeltsin handed the office over to Vladimir Putin. Putin lead a reclaiming campaign and was more aggressive than his predecessors

Yes, but it should also be noted that the communist plan to take down the west involves creating reasons for America to go to war - like terrorism - in order to make America a villain, to weaken us, and give them the opportunity to come in and take more control after we make a mess of things wherever we meddle. There have been compromised individuals in our government for decades, on board with this "war on terror" (before it was the "war on communists" which was the previous strategy with the same end-goal), who have been doing the bidding of the Kremlin and Communist party in China, whether they knew it or not. Putin used the same war on terror rhetoric soon after he came into power around 2000, and used that "war" to justify destroying Chechnya and invading Georgia.

Chechnya was a secession from the Russian Federation. Right or wrong, One cannot say The USA didn’t do something similar by taking back the seceded Confederacy in its own Civil War. Secession is a dangerous precedent for a country. I guarantee you that any sane nation would fight to take back a nation. I also remember all the doublespeak regarding Chechnya and how it was good that Russia lost part of itself to some freedom fighters declaring independence and then I shook my head when they were mad at how this new Chechen state was repressive and backwards and against Western values. At which point I literally didn’t mind if Russia took back Chechnya. It’s war and war is inhumane, but at the same time, there has to be a point where a government can say enough when it comes to literally combating secession from itself, and prevent itself from breaking up into something smaller and smaller. Honestly yes, Russia is run by wicked politician but it very well could be better than another Taliban state like Afghanistan at the same time.

As for Georgia and Ukraine? It’s sad that there is a siege running through Ukraine right now with a slow moving line shooting at Ukrainians coming at them. This could be a conflict that drags on for years. I have no idea. But I have no doubt that the Adversary has power over all nations of the Earth to whatever extent God or the agency of the leaders permit.

[Momma J]

Have you ever been in a room with someone who is truly a GOOD person? You can feel truth radiate from them. You want to gravitate as close as possible to be near.

I wish I could be a room with Donald Trump and talk with him. I want to believe that he is a good person, who has made some bad choices. (who amongst us is perfect?) Would I be able to feel honesty from him? It takes more than a good speaker to emulate goodness.

Or is he simply playing to the values of the conservative crowd? His saving grace with me right now were his actions to fight children from being trafficked

[Benjamin_LK]

I don’t see China and Russia as being in charge. After all, where did they get all their technology to become a threat?

The ptsb will use them and all the perversions on earth...to bury the west, and then...will bring in their benevolent one world government to save humanity.

We’ll see. I look for the Lord to intervene before that happens.

When you are such a top dog internationally the way the United States and the West became, there was going to be arrogance. There is one master, but multiple groups with evil plots. If there was one perfectly unified evil plot the wicked wouldn’t end up becoming “drunken with their own blood”. The way it works is that Satan is the guide to all evil, but he could care less if evil fights with evil because to the extent that there is misery and chaos in the world, that is what he craves.

Getting back to the west, they got so trade dependent because they felt nothing could challenge them anymore. However, Russians and Chinese had their own wicked groups and now it’s one evil secret society against another evil secret society, in war or rumors of wars. The West got careless for decades, and the East sought to jump on opportunities.

[Sarah]

jason mater of puppets. . . interesting nem . . are you paid by soros to diuscredit turmp on this religious forum? if not, then you are so berainwashed and I have appreciated the sites that you use. Ill satay away from them since they clearly have brainwashed you.

this should be researched as well. And th interview is muc better. Infact the last 1/3 tells what trump was up against and the attempt for faucis friends to bringhim downand publicly ruin him. Pelosi and Schumer evn did thj same didn't they. Then after they let biden claim that Trump spent all the money. clear lie since Pelosi has control of all the money. Biden stopped making that claim when Trumps lawyers offered to sue him for lying.

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Trump COVID official relates shocking saga of experience in DC, profound corruption of ‘Deep State’
‘President Trump has no power. He can't tell us in the bureaucracy what to do. He has none. This president has no power. None. Zero,’ Dr. Paul Alexander said he was told. ‘We run the government. President Trump runs nothing.’
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(LifeSiteNews) — A recent interview with a former senior pandemic advisor to the Trump administration provides a glimpse into a “deep state” apparatus which, with its extended arm of the mainstream media, wages war on the American people through institutionalized lies, and the ruthless destruction of individuals who stand in their way.


Dr. Paul Alexander, an epidemiologist with expertise in evidence-based medicine, was recruited in April 2020 from his role as a pandemic advisor for the World Health Organization (WHO), to assist the Trump administration in navigating the COVID-19 pandemic.

In his interview with the Brownstone Institute’s Jeffrey Tucker, the expert in evidence-based medicine recalled how he was watching President Donald Trump in a press conference with the White House Coronavirus Task Force, including Drs. Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx, trying to understand what they were saying and “bristling at things, upset, screaming at the television,” and “knowing that something was very wrong.”


The person who called him related that due to many of his public statements and published papers, he was noticed by the Oval Office and they were looking to “expand the table” of consultants with “people that the president can trust.”

Alexander said that after some consideration, he accepted this offer, which made him an employee of Health and Human Services (HHS) reporting directly to the secretary and assistant secretary Michael Caputo as well as advising the White House and all of the managers and directors of the CDC, the FDA, NIH, and others, including all the members of the Coronavirus Task Force.

‘Word had come from the deep state… that they will not complete my hire’
After moving his family to Washington, D.C., and renting a condominium near the Capitol building for around $3,000 a month, with the understanding he would be reimbursed for his moving expenses as well, Alexander showed up for his first day of work at the HHS building to discover that the “deep state” had moved to – for all practical purposes – veto his hire.

“I was told very straightforward in meetings, by the highest-level people, that word had come from the deep state… that they will not complete my hire,” Alexander explained. “So, all of the paperwork that needs to be done for a government person to come here, or even as a Trump appointee, they will not move, [they will do] nothing [to complete it].”

The epidemiologist who graduated with one of his two master’s degrees from Oxford University defined the deep state as “the entrenched bureaucracy, those career public servants, those who think they run the country and own the country.”

Without such paperwork being completed, he would not only be deprived of a salary, but have no security clearances which are necessary to enter the various buildings, attend meetings, and to do his job.

Understanding that he was being targeted for his potential to provide and present thorough evidence negating the overall COVID narrative which the deep state was inflicting on the nation and even the world, including the ongoing disaster of lockdowns and the dangers of mask mandates, Alexander resolved to remain in Washington and allow his superiors to sort out his status and salary concerns and to do his best to serve the nation.


In the meantime, his hosts figured out that they could classify him as a scientific volunteer for the United States government which would provide him with the necessary clearances to do his job, but he still would have no salary.

Resolving to go day-by-day in this situation, hoping for a resolution and the reception of back-pay, Alexander continued for weeks and even months with no income. And a resolution never happened.

‘If they went as far as to not pay you, they’re not done … the press is what’s going to take you down’
As part of his job, Dr. Alexander was “constantly” in contact with members of the task force, including Dr. Fauci who is director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID). Daily he emailed them “studies, anything I saw that would help in their decision making.”

Also implemented at the time as a feature of the government’s COVID-19 response was a daily “high-level” morning meeting which involved directors, managers, supervisors, and more from multiple government agencies, sometimes ranging between 50 and 100 persons. These meetings were held either in physical boardrooms or via teleconference.

Being new to Washington, Alexander’s bosses warned him several times that there were people in these calls who worked for NIH or the CDC whose “job is to subvert and undercut President Trump.” Monitoring the meeting, they will leak to the press anything that can be used to advance their goals, he was told.

“So, you have to be very, very careful about what you say,” his bosses warned. “They are going to leak everything we say to the press. They’re [also] going to work with the IT division to get all of our communications, all [of them], including yours, Paul. And they’re going to find ways to smear and target you.”

“If the Deep State decided they weren’t going to hire you, complete your documented paperwork, so you can get your official badges,” they continued, “if they decided and went as far as to not pay you, they’re not done. If you’re still not leaving, then they are going to go to the press, and the press is what’s going to take you down. You’ve got to be very careful.”

Alexander pushed back on Fauci, was immediately warned that he made a ‘grave mistake’
However, in June or July 2020, when President Trump was holding campaign rallies making the case for why schools must be opened in the fall and mask mandates should be lifted, a “heads up” communique was sent to all of these high-level government officials informing them that Fauci would be making media appearances in the coming days presenting the opposite message, asserting “why schools must remain closed and why children [still] need to be masked, etc.”

Several individual officials replied to the full group in this email, each of them reaffirming Fauci’s message, in opposition to Trump.

At the time, Alexander was reading many scientific reports on the grave damages resulting from school closings and the catastrophic harms of masks, especially for children.

“So, I decided that I would respond. I would enter the debate, I would enter the conversation,” Alexander explained.

Paraphrasing his message, he responded to the email chain that “if Dr. Fauci is going on the news … [he] should be armed with the best science.” And if he is going to make the case that schools should remain closed, and children should be masked, “Dr. Fauci is wrong and here’s why. And the NIH is incorrect.”

Dr. Alexander went on to attach 10 to 15 studies demonstrating that “masking is wrong, very harmful to children, very harmful entirely to anyone, ineffective, and that schools should not be closed. The schools should have never been closed and should be open,” he explained.

Immediately, he received sharp retorts from many of the officials in the thread, warning that he had “made a grave mistake… pushing back on Dr. Fauci openly and the NIH senior scientists.” While it appears no one wanted to present a scientific argument for why Alexander himself was wrong in his assessment, the broad consensus simply emphasized that the epidemiologist made a “grave mistake” embarrassing Fauci and his colleagues.

‘They are now going to move to cancel you and to cut your balls off’
Around two days later, Alexander relates how he learned the results of offering a compelling scientific argument that exposes the erroneous COVID-19 narrative of NIH and the CDC among the deep state agencies in Washington, D.C.

Following one of their standard meetings at HHS, two individuals whom he identifies only as a manager and supervisor, one from CDC and the other from NIH, walked with him as he returned to his office relating in a friendly tone that they wanted to meet him because they “really enjoy some of what you’re saying.”

They explained very kindly to him, however, that based on common knowledge in D.C., the sending off of his email to Fauci and NIH, “pretty much slapping them down,” was a very serious matter. “They are going to do everything now to destroy your name and your career.”

When Alexander asked why they would do such a thing, they said, “you questioned Dr. Fauci openly, you said that he was wrong, and you said the NIH was wrong and you provided all these studies. You pretty much showed up the scientific arm as being out-of-step and incompetent.”

“But they were wrong,” Alexander replied.

Yes, but nobody has ever challenged Fauci openly, and they’re going to cut your balls off,” these officials said. “The decision has been made at the highest levels of government: CDC, NIH, Fauci, his team. They are now going to move to cancel you and to cut your balls off.”

Alexander asked, “What do you mean exactly?”

“They’re going to destroy you, Paul. They’re going to destroy your name, your career. You’ll never work in Washington again. They’ll end your career,” one of them replied.

After offering to write Fauci an email apology, these individuals whose names are withheld by Alexander, told him, “No, you don’t understand, it’s done… It’s over. They are going to select communications between you and all the parties in your unit and across HHS, and they’re going to find a word in it or a line. They found a line and they’re going to leak it in about four days to the mainstream media, across the board, all [of them]. And they’re going to create a narrative. And they’re going to go about destroying your name.”

“The media already has [the line] and has already written their stories. It’s just going to come out on a certain day,” they said.

Alexander and his family subjected to relentless media harassment, ‘death threats’
Three or four days later stories came out in the press attacking Alexander for promoting the natural herd immunity strategy with his colleagues in an internal email correspondence where he pointed out that children and low-risk adults should be encouraged to simply live their lives as normal. If or when they are “naturally” and “harmlessly” infected with COVID-19, “they will recover,” build immunity, and help protect the vulnerable.

Instead, through misquotes, the media reports spun his approach as “pretty much ‘Trump HHS official wants to kill all of your children,’” Alexander explained.

A few months later, in October 2020, distinguished infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists released a document called the Great Barrington Declaration advocating for Alexander’s precise approach to ending the pandemic. This declaration’s website currently reports endorsements by over 63,000 medical practitioners and medical and public health scientists.

The media pressure on Alexander continued relentlessly into September including stories hitting the press charging Dr. Alexander with “interference” with CDC publications where he expressed his professional judgment that they were “writing hit pieces on the administration.” And with regards to children and the virus, he wrote “CDC tried to report as if once kids get together, there will be spread and this will impact school re-opening . . . Very misleading by CDC and shame on them. Their aim is clear.”

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His boss, HHS Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, Michael Caputo, clarified that his office “clears virtually all public facing documents for all of its divisions, including CDC,” CNBC reported at the time. “Our intention is to make sure that evidence, science-based data drives policy through this pandemic—not ulterior deep state motives in the bowels of CDC.”

Due to media attacks, Alexander was subjected to death threats and harassment with reporters camped outside his home, a period of his life he classified as “hell.” Since it was the campaign season, the White House also put him on “lockdown” as they didn’t want him to “suck any air out of the president’s messaging,” and thus he was not even allowed to defend himself in any way in the media with statements or interviews.

The White House advised him repeatedly to persevere in silence “one more day,” until another story comes along that breaks the news cycle. If the story is big enough, they told him, “you will disappear,” which is precisely what happened with the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg on September 18. At that point, Alexander experienced some relief from the media pressure.

‘I went through hell, and President Trump went through more than hell. He had it for four years’
In describing what he casually and repeatedly referred to as the “deep state,” Alexander said that if HHS had 10,000 employees, “maybe 9,990 were against President Trump. It was that serious.”

In fact, he reports that many of these career officials confided in him stating “glowingly and confidently: ‘We work daily, daily, every day, from early in the morning to close of business, and still when we go to our homes… Our sole purpose is to undercut and undermine Trump 24/7. Our jobs, collectively, at FDA, CDC… is to make his [COVID] response come across as unmanageable, ungovernable, [and] chaotic.’”

In fact, he recalled being in situations where Fauci or his team would threaten the president if he didn’t approve something they were requesting. They would tell the Trump team that they will go to the media “right now in 5 minutes and leak that we are ‘muzzling’ [Fauci],” Alexander said.

“Trump governed with these people threatening him every day because the media was their arm.”

“The reason why I still support President Trump is this: what he went through for those four years, I don’t think anybody has ever gone through. I went through hell, and he went through more than hell. He had it for four years. And he was isolated because most of those people in the White House were not his friends… Many of them were deep state too, and they were subverting him,” he said.

‘President Trump runs nothing’
The most dramatic account presented by the Canadian scientist recalled an acute conflict which occurred on September 16, precipitated by HHS authorities demanding he tender his resignation by 4:00 p.m. that afternoon.

Dr. Alexander received an early morning call at home that day from an HHS official directing him to report to certain persons immediately upon his arrival in the office. Recognizing this demand as being out of the ordinary, he made a few calls and learned of the government’s decision to demand his resignation that day.

Just after he concluded these calls on his government-issued work phone, his private phone rang with a call coming from a person in the White House, “inside the Oval” that Alexander didn’t want to identify.

“We know that the deep state bureaucracy is moving to fire you today,” this person reportedly told the epidemiologist. “We wanted to get in touch with you to tell you, don’t go to the office.”

“We are going to instruct the bureaucracy to stand down, that President Trump has directly intervened,” this official informed him. “We have made a decision that you are going… to enter the White House in about two weeks. You are going to become a direct special adviser.”

Thus, the White House official said they would be contacting HHS to direct them that Dr. Alexander would not be resigning and of his coming transition. They also reemphasized to the epidemiologist, “don’t go to the office. Don’t hand in your laptop, don’t hand in your cell phone… Just act as if you didn’t hear from them today.”

Shortly after ending this discussion and preparing to stay home for the day, Dr. Alexander received another call from the HHS authorities on his work cell phone asking why he wasn’t in the office yet. Alexander asked if they had heard from the White House, and they reportedly confirmed they had.

“Well then, [you’re aware] I’m not coming in today,” he replied.

“No, you have to come in today by 4:00, as we told you,” the HHS official insisted. “And we want your equipment before that, immediately. And you have to tender your resignation by 4:00. If you don’t, at 4:01, we will put out an advisory that we have terminated you.”

Further they stated, “We don’t care what the White House said.” Alexander identified them as the HHS HR director and two attorneys from the Department of Justice (DOJ).

At that moment, the White House called again on his private phone and asked if he heard from these officials again. He said he had, and they were on the other line and could hear them

“Ok, we are telling you again. Do not go to the office. Do not resign. Do not give them anything,” the Oval office official reiterated. “You are entering the White House in a matter of days, so you do not go to the office and we are going to handle it.”

The HHS official with the DOJ attorneys replied to Dr. Alexander, “Yeah, we just heard the White House. But we’re trying to tell you basically we don’t give a crap what they are saying in the Oval Office. We are telling you, you bring your laptop and cell phone immediately. Your badges, everything and you sign a resignation letter.”

Following one more highly intense phone conversation with the official from the White House, reiterating the same points above demanding the subordinate agencies “stand down” out of deference to this intervention by the President of the United States, Dr. Alexander returned to the HHS representatives and reports their response in the following way:

Yes. We just heard everything that was said there. We need you to understand, Dr. Alexander, President Trump has no power.’ This is the exact terms and I want to be able to say it. ‘President Trump has no power. He can’t tell us in the bureaucracy what to do. He has none. This president has no power. None. Zero. We are telling you, bring your equipment or we will come for it. And you come and you resign by 4:00. We run the government. President Trump runs nothing.’ That’s the exact words. ‘We run the government. President Trump runs nothing. So, we expect you here in about 15 minutes.’ And they put down the phone.

After a conversation with his wife, Dr. Alexander decided to just resign and leave Washington being exhausted by the intense pressure.

Nations all over the world only locked down ‘out of fear’ the U.S. ‘would blacklist them’ and ‘take draconian steps’ against them if they did not comply
In an email correspondence with LifeSiteNews, Dr. Alexander emphasized that the “key” point in his interview was to reveal the formidable cabal of the deep state and “how much they worked against Trump” to subvert the will of the American people who sent him to Washington to implement policies serving their legitimate interests and the common good.

But Alexander also highlighted in his interview, that this dangerous influence of the administrative state goes far beyond the borders of the U.S. due to America’s position in the world.

While working at HHS, the epidemiologist reported that despite their full knowledge that the pandemic data was “very questionable” and “wrong,” officials “at the State Department level in several countries told me that their nations only locked down… because America locked down.”

“They did it out of fear. They felt that the United States would blacklist them if they did not lock down and that the United States would take draconian steps” against them and their people if they did not comply.

“How the world… comes out of this eventually depends on America, what happens in America. If we don’t get this right, what is happening now, if we don’t find a way to fix this,” it will drastically impact the rest of the world as well, Alexander opined.

Alexander encouraged bipartisan high-level officials want hearings on CDC ‘based on actual science and evidence’; more to come in the future
But not all is dire in Alexander’s view. While he judged the CDC to be “a deranged public health agency” that produces “garbage science,” which contributed, in his view, to the Coronavirus Task Force being a “clown car show,” he is encouraged that there are “very senior people” from “both sides of the aisle” who “recognize the shortcomings and failures of the CDC.”

Alexander shared that shortly after his arrival in D.C., he had discussions with high-ranking government officials who charged him with “a very serious, very high level, confidential task” to provide them with “a dispassionate, unbiased, nonpolitical scientific report” of the work produced by the CDC. The report should also include his “deep analysis” of the quality of their output and his recommendations.

This bipartisan group of officials intended this report to be a basis for hearings in the House and Senate evaluating the CDC “based on actual science and evidence.” It was their intention to “go at all of the alphabet agencies, public health, the health agencies: CDC, NIH, NIAID, FDA,” beginning with the CDC.

Though Dr. Alexander expressed to LifeSite how much he wants to put this experience behind him, he indicated to interviewer Jeffrey Tucker that he was holding back significant information “because I want to have discussions more and develop more” in the future.

Jean Mondoro contributed to this article.

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interview

The interviewer in this article is Jeffrey Tucker, someone who's worked for Ron Paul. Looks like Tucker's been interviewed on Russian state television, surprise surprise.

All roads lead to Ukraine (Russia):

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-the- ... -98826563/
Dr. Ron Paul 'Situation In Ukraine Is A Nato War Against Russia'

https://www.wired.com/2007/12/ron-paul-promot/
Spam Promoting Ron Paul Traced to Ukrainian Botnet
A researcher at SecureWorks has traced the October flood of deceptive spam promoting Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul to a criminal botnet of compromised computers run out of Ukraine...

https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/ron- ... x-charges/
"...The former congressman also spoke at a conference hosted by a Holocaust denier whose group accused "Zionist billionaires" of "financially raping" the Russian people.
Ritter, a contributor to the Kremlin-funded Russia Today, last year wrote an article for the Quincy Institute that downplayed Russian cyber attacks..."

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... nd/439533/
"With his cool, dispassionate rhetoric, Paul seems to be just about the best voice for Putin's interests anywhere — and better, surely, than Kremlin TV."

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/09/63698229 ... epublicans
"By now, practically everyone has seen that picture of the two guys at President Trump's weekend rally in Ohio wearing T-shirts that said: "I'd Rather be a Russian than a Democrat!"
Many have also seen the visuals of Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul hobnobbing in Moscow this week with members of the Russian Council, sometimes called his "counterparts." These included the chairman of the council's foreign policy panel, Konstantin Kosachev, who happens to be under official U.S. sanction for his government's actions against our government.

But that didn't seem to bother Paul, who invited Kosachev and others to visit the USA.

Indeed, this sanction and other tokens of disapproval imposed on Russian officials in the past year have not seemed to chill the enduring warmth between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Trump. Paul carried a handwritten note from Trump to Putin on his trip.

A recent Gallup Poll showed some 40 percent of Republicans, a plurality of the self-identified category, now regard Russia as an ally or at least as a country friendly to the United States. That is double the percentage of Republicans who expressed that view to Gallup in 2014.

One need not go far to find enthusiasts at any Trump rally who say they have no problem with Russians helping elect or re-elect him — so long as he fulfills his campaign promises to Americans such as themselves. Who cares? Countries interfere with the internal business of other countries all the time.
Just after he took office in 2017, Trump was asked on Fox News about Putin's reputation as a "killer." Trump shot back: "You think we're so innocent?"

[EvanLM]

btw did you know that Romney owns the company tha tpicks up aborted fetuses . . good money making contract with lots of future profits
he is actually thee one who signed the contract. . . personal signature on a contract to take care opf murdered bodies

did you know thatromney legislated for abortions in the state where he was governor and had 2 lawsuits against him run by pro life groups to stop his yes abortion approval in thier state.

didyou know that Romney in his Bain Capitol bank laundered the money for child traficking and other crimes committed by the clinton family?

did you know that Trump was opposed to abortion and closed more abortion clinics in in the US as to almost stop the practice? on this information aone, Trump has made his way onto heaven . . . during his term he and his administration who also opposed abortion saved millions of babies. Can you claim the same?

but that romney makes money on the murder of babies and it is not the same as selling cigarettes at your store . . .he wasn't forced into it by a franchise . . .he chose to take these dead bodies to clincs or the dump

I've looked into most of these claims and it's isn't as clear-cut as all that. From what I remember, Bain invested in a medical waste company that did dispose of fetuses at one point. But they disposed of a lot of stuff, and who knows if Bain even thought about it.

Romney ran in a pro-choice state, and he's articulated in the past multiple times that at that time in his career, he was personally pro-life but had the same views that his mom had, and that was pro-choice in politics because he believed in agency. This was a popular LDS view in the 90's as I recall. He said later he did change his mind and became pro-life, in that he doesn't support legalized on-demand abortion, and he recently supported the decision to over-turn Roe v Wade.

The thing you said about Bain laundering money - I'd like to see the evidence for that. Probably more Trump fan-fiction like that Alexander story. It's Russian/communist dis-info made popular with Alex Jones, getting libertarians and conservatives believing lies in order to support guys like Trump and Ron Paul, who are actors/opportunists/populists.

I apoligize for demonizing him. . . you are probably right . . . you are very prepared with all your talking points . . .

[Sarah]

You just can't make this stuff up! Michael Caputo is the guy Paul Alexander (from the article Evan posted) worked for.
Caputo is a Trump guy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Caputo

"Caputo moved to Russia in 1994, after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, and was an adviser to Boris Yeltsin. He worked for Gazprom Media in 2000 where he worked on improving the image of Vladimir Putin in the U.S. He moved back to the U.S. and founded a public relations company, and then moved to Ukraine to work on a candidate's campaign for parliament."

Caputo also just happens to be married to an Ukrainian.

[EvanLM]

who locked us down? the chinese and russians?

Trump and Biden are puppets of the East. What we endured here in the US was nothing like what they went through in China. But that will be our fate if we think they are the good guys. The point is that it was all a plan for the world to go through this, to bring down the economy, which is starting to implode as we speak. As the West collapses, Russia and China can step forward and harness the hatred of the middle East to finally take the West and Israel down. It is a made-up lie that the Western elites had a plan to take over Russia and China, otherwise we would have built up our military. That's why the lie was put forth that it's all the WEF or Soros, to take our eye off of them. Russia and China have a lot of control over these world governing bodies. They've infiltrated and manipulated for decades.

The reason is pride. The West saw Russia as a non-issue following the dissolution of the USSR, and tried to drum up support for fighting “war on terror”. This was going on all through the 90s, even at the time of the Oklahoma City Bombing newspapers and other reports on f the incident sensationalized it as being a Middle Eastern style bombing until the real culprit was revealed. They wanted it to be a particular narrative to justify Middle East War. Meanwhile there was plenty of rejoicing while Boris Yeltsin was the president of the Russian Federation and crime and poverty were horribly rampant in the 1990s, a continuation of Soviet decay from the 70s and 80s. Putin was viewed with suspicion once Boris Yeltsin handed the office over to Vladimir Putin. Putin lead a reclaiming campaign and was more aggressive than his predecessors

Yes, but it should also be noted that the communist plan to take down the west involves creating reasons for America to go to war - like terrorism - in order to make America a villain, to weaken us, and give them the opportunity to come in and take more control after we make a mess of things wherever we meddle. There have been compromised individuals in our government for decades, on board with this "war on terror" (before it was the "war on communists" which was the previous strategy with the same end-goal), who have been doing the bidding of the Kremlin and Communist party in China, whether they knew it or not. Putin used the same war on terror rhetoric soon after he came into power around 2000, and used that "war" to justify destroying Chechnya and invading Georgia.

where do you get these ideas . . .current history wouldn't support them. of course, that skousen guy that is on Kate daley talks like this . . he isn't very current. . . still hanging on to past WW2 ideas and hasn't caught up

You really haven't answered my question . . pretty simple . . I don't need to be schooled . . . I already know all of your talking points plus the other side of every one. that's not making a claim at to which side I believe . . just saying I don't need to be schooled


btw I think Putin has used oil and gas to destroy . . .he just turns off the natural gas to their homes or prices it high until they give up. . . he doesn't really need to war against most of Europe because of this. He went to war in Ukraine to save his patriots from constant killings and to send a message to NATO who have been putting tanks and armor on the borders of Russia for some time.. There are whole cities of Russians in Ukraine who are loyal to Putin.

this why I say that the ideas you propose are WW2 ideas that I already know. I don't really want to school you either. just wanted an answer to my question.

I have come to the conclusion that people, like you, are pretty set in their ways and are not going to change. I just want to know what ideas I am up against as the covid goes forward again and we might have a war. It's easier to know what the general public is thinking so I can maneuver my way around from death. I am no longer, at this point, interested in changing anyone. I have put out some ideas recently on several threads that oppose the general thinking of this forum. So I can not the answers cuz again, I think most people are set in their ways now. The media has done a good job. . . alt media and MSM