Is our entire government, treasonous?

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Fred
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Is our entire government, treasonous?

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All of the way down to the local Mayor?

The answer, of course, is yes. Holding politicians accountable is near impossible. But on the local level, we do have the power to kick the bums out. If treason is the willful destruction of our own country, then the death penalty is appropriate. But rather than simply kill them to be replaced by a worse version, let's educate our neighbor voters to oust the pricks. We do this at the local level and climb up instead of attempting to clean from the top down.

One party has extremely minimal mention of the constitution in their platform, and only like to refer to it when they want to discuss process of impeachment for a president who is of the other party... The other party mentions the constitution a number of times in their platform but do they follow it?

Consider these points taken from tenthamandmentcenter.com

Education. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have anything to do with education? Of course not.
The drug war. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate or prohibit the manufacturing, buying, selling, or using of any drug? Of course not.
Gun-control laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pass any legislation related to guns, ammunition, or magazines? Of course not.
Minimum-wage laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to establish a minimum wage? Of course not.
Foreign aid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to take money from Americans and give it to foreigners and their governments? Of course not.
AMTRAK. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to operate a rail service? Of course not.
Medicare and Medicaid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pay for any American’s health care? Of course not.
Social Security. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have a retirement or disability program? Of course not.
Food stamps. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to feed anyone? Of course not.
Subsidies. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to subsidize art, culture, agriculture, or scientific and medical research? Of course not.
Anti-discrimination laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and prevent or prosecute acts of discrimination? Of course not.
Welfare programs. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to fight poverty, establish a safety net, or give cash to the poor? Of course not.
Organ sales. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate the buying and selling of human organs for transplants? Of course not.
NASA. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to explore outer space? Of course not.
Housing. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to make home loans, give out housing vouchers, or even have a Department of Housing and Urban Development? Of course not.

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Fred wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:10 am All of the way down to the local Mayor?

The answer, of course, is yes. Holding politicians accountable is near impossible. But on the local level, we do have the power to kick the bums out. If treason is the willful destruction of our own country, then the death penalty is appropriate. But rather than simply kill them to be replaced by a worse version, let's educate our neighbor voters to oust the pricks. We do this at the local level and climb up instead of attempting to clean from the top down.

One party has extremely minimal mention of the constitution in their platform, and only like to refer to it when they want to discuss process of impeachment for a president who is of the other party... The other party mentions the constitution a number of times in their platform but do they follow it?

Consider these points taken from tenthamandmentcenter.com

Education. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have anything to do with education? Of course not.
The drug war. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate or prohibit the manufacturing, buying, selling, or using of any drug? Of course not.
Gun-control laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pass any legislation related to guns, ammunition, or magazines? Of course not.
Minimum-wage laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to establish a minimum wage? Of course not.
Foreign aid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to take money from Americans and give it to foreigners and their governments? Of course not.
AMTRAK. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to operate a rail service? Of course not.
Medicare and Medicaid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pay for any American’s health care? Of course not.
Social Security. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have a retirement or disability program? Of course not.
Food stamps. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to feed anyone? Of course not.
Subsidies. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to subsidize art, culture, agriculture, or scientific and medical research? Of course not.
Anti-discrimination laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and prevent or prosecute acts of discrimination? Of course not.
Welfare programs. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to fight poverty, establish a safety net, or give cash to the poor? Of course not.
Organ sales. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate the buying and selling of human organs for transplants? Of course not.
NASA. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to explore outer space? Of course not.
Housing. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to make home loans, give out housing vouchers, or even have a Department of Housing and Urban Development? Of course not.
With respect, is it not the case that the entire existence of the US, including the government, is based on treason? ;)

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Robin Hood wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:21 am
Fred wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:10 am All of the way down to the local Mayor?

The answer, of course, is yes. Holding politicians accountable is near impossible. But on the local level, we do have the power to kick the bums out. If treason is the willful destruction of our own country, then the death penalty is appropriate. But rather than simply kill them to be replaced by a worse version, let's educate our neighbor voters to oust the pricks. We do this at the local level and climb up instead of attempting to clean from the top down.

One party has extremely minimal mention of the constitution in their platform, and only like to refer to it when they want to discuss process of impeachment for a president who is of the other party... The other party mentions the constitution a number of times in their platform but do they follow it?

Consider these points taken from tenthamandmentcenter.com

Education. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have anything to do with education? Of course not.
The drug war. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate or prohibit the manufacturing, buying, selling, or using of any drug? Of course not.
Gun-control laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pass any legislation related to guns, ammunition, or magazines? Of course not.
Minimum-wage laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to establish a minimum wage? Of course not.
Foreign aid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to take money from Americans and give it to foreigners and their governments? Of course not.
AMTRAK. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to operate a rail service? Of course not.
Medicare and Medicaid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pay for any American’s health care? Of course not.
Social Security. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have a retirement or disability program? Of course not.
Food stamps. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to feed anyone? Of course not.
Subsidies. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to subsidize art, culture, agriculture, or scientific and medical research? Of course not.
Anti-discrimination laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and prevent or prosecute acts of discrimination? Of course not.
Welfare programs. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to fight poverty, establish a safety net, or give cash to the poor? Of course not.
Organ sales. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate the buying and selling of human organs for transplants? Of course not.
NASA. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to explore outer space? Of course not.
Housing. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to make home loans, give out housing vouchers, or even have a Department of Housing and Urban Development? Of course not.
With respect, is it not the case that the entire existence of the US, including the government, is based on treason? ;)
No. You are correct. The government's existence is not treasonous. Just the people that work there. And it is not all inclusive. The possibility does exist that a government employee does not have their heart set upon our destruction. But the democrats do, for sure. Many Republicans are RINOS and do not have our well being in mind.

But if anyone, of any party, thinks that the present government is authorized in it's participation in any of the above practices, then that person is complicit with the destruction of our country.

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Robin Hood wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:21 am With respect, is it not the case that the entire existence of the US, including the government, is based on treason? ;)
It's only treason if you lose. 8-)

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Fred wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:10 am All of the way down to the local Mayor?

The answer, of course, is yes. Holding politicians accountable is near impossible. But on the local level, we do have the power to kick the bums out. If treason is the willful destruction of our own country, then the death penalty is appropriate. But rather than simply kill them to be replaced by a worse version, let's educate our neighbor voters to oust the pricks. We do this at the local level and climb up instead of attempting to clean from the top down.

One party has extremely minimal mention of the constitution in their platform, and only like to refer to it when they want to discuss process of impeachment for a president who is of the other party... The other party mentions the constitution a number of times in their platform but do they follow it?

Consider these points taken from tenthamandmentcenter.com

Education. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have anything to do with education? Of course not.
The drug war. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate or prohibit the manufacturing, buying, selling, or using of any drug? Of course not.
Gun-control laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pass any legislation related to guns, ammunition, or magazines? Of course not.
Minimum-wage laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to establish a minimum wage? Of course not.
Foreign aid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to take money from Americans and give it to foreigners and their governments? Of course not.
AMTRAK. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to operate a rail service? Of course not.
Medicare and Medicaid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pay for any American’s health care? Of course not.
Social Security. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have a retirement or disability program? Of course not.
Food stamps. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to feed anyone? Of course not.
Subsidies. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to subsidize art, culture, agriculture, or scientific and medical research? Of course not.
Anti-discrimination laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and prevent or prosecute acts of discrimination? Of course not.
Welfare programs. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to fight poverty, establish a safety net, or give cash to the poor? Of course not.
Organ sales. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate the buying and selling of human organs for transplants? Of course not.
NASA. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to explore outer space? Of course not.
Housing. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to make home loans, give out housing vouchers, or even have a Department of Housing and Urban Development? Of course not.
Yes.

But it hasn't been our government since we lost the war of 1812.

Sir H

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Joseph F. Smith probably said it best.

“Satan has control now. No matter where you look, he is in control, even in our own land. He is guiding the governments as far as the Lord will permit him. That is why there is so much strife, turmoil, confusion all over the earth. One master mind is governing the nations. It is not the President of the United States… it is not the king or government of England or any other land; it is Satan himself.”

That’s a really old quote. If it was that bad then what is it now? We have a fake president threatening the lives of the American people in a speech he gave at the beginning of the week. We have local elected officials that fully agree with Biden as well as people in our own neighborhoods.
Yeah we are in a lot of crap right now.

If we don’t turn back to God and repent these people are going to destroy all of us.

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Fred wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:36 am
Robin Hood wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:21 am
Fred wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:10 am All of the way down to the local Mayor?

The answer, of course, is yes. Holding politicians accountable is near impossible. But on the local level, we do have the power to kick the bums out. If treason is the willful destruction of our own country, then the death penalty is appropriate. But rather than simply kill them to be replaced by a worse version, let's educate our neighbor voters to oust the pricks. We do this at the local level and climb up instead of attempting to clean from the top down.

One party has extremely minimal mention of the constitution in their platform, and only like to refer to it when they want to discuss process of impeachment for a president who is of the other party... The other party mentions the constitution a number of times in their platform but do they follow it?

Consider these points taken from tenthamandmentcenter.com

Education. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have anything to do with education? Of course not.
The drug war. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate or prohibit the manufacturing, buying, selling, or using of any drug? Of course not.
Gun-control laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pass any legislation related to guns, ammunition, or magazines? Of course not.
Minimum-wage laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to establish a minimum wage? Of course not.
Foreign aid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to take money from Americans and give it to foreigners and their governments? Of course not.
AMTRAK. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to operate a rail service? Of course not.
Medicare and Medicaid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pay for any American’s health care? Of course not.
Social Security. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have a retirement or disability program? Of course not.
Food stamps. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to feed anyone? Of course not.
Subsidies. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to subsidize art, culture, agriculture, or scientific and medical research? Of course not.
Anti-discrimination laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and prevent or prosecute acts of discrimination? Of course not.
Welfare programs. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to fight poverty, establish a safety net, or give cash to the poor? Of course not.
Organ sales. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate the buying and selling of human organs for transplants? Of course not.
NASA. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to explore outer space? Of course not.
Housing. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to make home loans, give out housing vouchers, or even have a Department of Housing and Urban Development? Of course not.
With respect, is it not the case that the entire existence of the US, including the government, is based on treason? ;)
No. You are correct. The government's existence is not treasonous. Just the people that work there. And it is not all inclusive. The possibility does exist that a government employee does not have their heart set upon our destruction. But the democrats do, for sure. Many Republicans are RINOS and do not have our well being in mind.

But if anyone, of any party, thinks that the present government is authorized in it's participation in any of the above practices, then that person is complicit with the destruction of our country.
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EvanLM wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 3:00 pm
Fred wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:36 am
Robin Hood wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:21 am
Fred wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:10 am All of the way down to the local Mayor?

The answer, of course, is yes. Holding politicians accountable is near impossible. But on the local level, we do have the power to kick the bums out. If treason is the willful destruction of our own country, then the death penalty is appropriate. But rather than simply kill them to be replaced by a worse version, let's educate our neighbor voters to oust the pricks. We do this at the local level and climb up instead of attempting to clean from the top down.

One party has extremely minimal mention of the constitution in their platform, and only like to refer to it when they want to discuss process of impeachment for a president who is of the other party... The other party mentions the constitution a number of times in their platform but do they follow it?

Consider these points taken from tenthamandmentcenter.com

Education. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have anything to do with education? Of course not.
The drug war. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate or prohibit the manufacturing, buying, selling, or using of any drug? Of course not.
Gun-control laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pass any legislation related to guns, ammunition, or magazines? Of course not.
Minimum-wage laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to establish a minimum wage? Of course not.
Foreign aid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to take money from Americans and give it to foreigners and their governments? Of course not.
AMTRAK. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to operate a rail service? Of course not.
Medicare and Medicaid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pay for any American’s health care? Of course not.
Social Security. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have a retirement or disability program? Of course not.
Food stamps. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to feed anyone? Of course not.
Subsidies. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to subsidize art, culture, agriculture, or scientific and medical research? Of course not.
Anti-discrimination laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and prevent or prosecute acts of discrimination? Of course not.
Welfare programs. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to fight poverty, establish a safety net, or give cash to the poor? Of course not.
Organ sales. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate the buying and selling of human organs for transplants? Of course not.
NASA. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to explore outer space? Of course not.
Housing. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to make home loans, give out housing vouchers, or even have a Department of Housing and Urban Development? Of course not.
With respect, is it not the case that the entire existence of the US, including the government, is based on treason? ;)
No. You are correct. The government's existence is not treasonous. Just the people that work there. And it is not all inclusive. The possibility does exist that a government employee does not have their heart set upon our destruction. But the democrats do, for sure. Many Republicans are RINOS and do not have our well being in mind.

But if anyone, of any party, thinks that the present government is authorized in it's participation in any of the above practices, then that person is complicit with the destruction of our country.
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HVDC wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 1:52 pm
Fred wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:10 am All of the way down to the local Mayor?

The answer, of course, is yes. Holding politicians accountable is near impossible. But on the local level, we do have the power to kick the bums out. If treason is the willful destruction of our own country, then the death penalty is appropriate. But rather than simply kill them to be replaced by a worse version, let's educate our neighbor voters to oust the pricks. We do this at the local level and climb up instead of attempting to clean from the top down.

One party has extremely minimal mention of the constitution in their platform, and only like to refer to it when they want to discuss process of impeachment for a president who is of the other party... The other party mentions the constitution a number of times in their platform but do they follow it?

Consider these points taken from tenthamandmentcenter.com

Education. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have anything to do with education? Of course not.
The drug war. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate or prohibit the manufacturing, buying, selling, or using of any drug? Of course not.
Gun-control laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pass any legislation related to guns, ammunition, or magazines? Of course not.
Minimum-wage laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to establish a minimum wage? Of course not.
Foreign aid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to take money from Americans and give it to foreigners and their governments? Of course not.
AMTRAK. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to operate a rail service? Of course not.
Medicare and Medicaid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pay for any American’s health care? Of course not.
Social Security. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have a retirement or disability program? Of course not.
Food stamps. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to feed anyone? Of course not.
Subsidies. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to subsidize art, culture, agriculture, or scientific and medical research? Of course not.
Anti-discrimination laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and prevent or prosecute acts of discrimination? Of course not.
Welfare programs. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to fight poverty, establish a safety net, or give cash to the poor? Of course not.
Organ sales. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate the buying and selling of human organs for transplants? Of course not.
NASA. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to explore outer space? Of course not.
Housing. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to make home loans, give out housing vouchers, or even have a Department of Housing and Urban Development? Of course not.
Yes.

But it hasn't been our government since we lost the war of 1812.

Sir H
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I think Outer Space was the last thing on their minds.

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Fred wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 3:07 pm
EvanLM wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 3:00 pm
Fred wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:36 am
Robin Hood wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:21 am

With respect, is it not the case that the entire existence of the US, including the government, is based on treason? ;)
No. You are correct. The government's existence is not treasonous. Just the people that work there. And it is not all inclusive. The possibility does exist that a government employee does not have their heart set upon our destruction. But the democrats do, for sure. Many Republicans are RINOS and do not have our well being in mind.

But if anyone, of any party, thinks that the present government is authorized in it's participation in any of the above practices, then that person is complicit with the destruction of our country.
your opinion . . the devisive opinion. . . I don't agree that anyone who agrees with any of your list is complicit . . .more facebook follow me
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freedom of speech is still not denied by you . . .I don't agree with your post and conclusion

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EvanLM wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 3:36 pm freedom of speech is still not denied by you . . .I don't agree with your post and conclusion
Nobody is trying to stop your speech. You're safe

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EvanLM wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 3:36 pm freedom of speech is still not denied by you . . .I don't agree with your post and conclusion
I don't deny anyone's freedom of speech. I have banned no one. Not even you.

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of course. . .your mode . . intimidation

quote from fred, you: I don't care what you think and don't know of anyone that does.

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do you honestly think that he deceived 94% of the republican party? You sure give no credit to a alot of smart people. He spent alot of money and screwewd up the vax but told everyone that they didn't have to take it. over the news he told people that they didn't have to take it and asked the schools to stay open and business also. . . .

but you think your eyes are opened. . . I don't thgink he is the hero to save USA but I do KNOW that he has more followers in this country than any president or rather nonpresident has collected.

Being in denial about that isn't going to change the future . . .nothing will ever prove that he is part of the crime families

and he has them pretty worried cuz he exposed their crimes and they have exposed none of his

btw many people have gone to prison, many government busts caused some to lose their pension and just cuz your news station doesn't report it doesn't mean that it didn't happen

he had every saudi arabian prince locked up in a motel at one time with the demans form their relative king, the young guy would return the money taken out of american banks. Under the ex order to fight crime then Trump claimed all of their money made on crime and went after them when they left the country and took their money. they finally gave it back and then their borhter and cousin king let them out of the motel. This was so many years ago and just a tip of the iceberg of his policing

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EvanLM wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 4:19 pm do you honestly think that he deceived 94% of the republican party? You sure give no credit to a alot of smart people. He spent alot of money and screwewd up the vax but told everyone that they didn't have to take it. over the news he told people that they didn't have to take it and asked the schools to stay open and business also. . . .

but you think your eyes are opened. . . I don't thgink he is the hero to save USA but I do KNOW that he has more followers in this country than any president or rather nonpresident has collected.

Being in denial about that isn't going to change the future . . .nothing will ever prove that he is part of the crime families

and he has them pretty worried cuz he exposed their crimes and they have exposed none of his

btw many people have gone to prison, many government busts caused some to lose their pension and just cuz your news station doesn't report it doesn't mean that it didn't happen

he had every saudi arabian prince locked up in a motel at one time with the demans form their relative king, the young guy would return the money taken out of american banks. Under the ex order to fight crime then Trump claimed all of their money made on crime and went after them when they left the country and took their money. they finally gave it back and then their borhter and cousin king let them out of the motel. This was so many years ago and just a tip of the iceberg of his policing
Should I feed the troll or ignore it?

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The problem is, that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely,

And more and more, each and every level of them US government becomes, due to the strenuous efforts of those involved with it, becomes more powerful.

Most of the of the phony faced, toothy grinning low life’s that go into it, go into it for one basic reason. To line their pockets.
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EvanLM wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 3:00 pm
Fred wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:36 am
Robin Hood wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:21 am
Fred wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:10 am All of the way down to the local Mayor?

The answer, of course, is yes. Holding politicians accountable is near impossible. But on the local level, we do have the power to kick the bums out. If treason is the willful destruction of our own country, then the death penalty is appropriate. But rather than simply kill them to be replaced by a worse version, let's educate our neighbor voters to oust the pricks. We do this at the local level and climb up instead of attempting to clean from the top down.

One party has extremely minimal mention of the constitution in their platform, and only like to refer to it when they want to discuss process of impeachment for a president who is of the other party... The other party mentions the constitution a number of times in their platform but do they follow it?

Consider these points taken from tenthamandmentcenter.com

Education. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have anything to do with education? Of course not.
The drug war. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate or prohibit the manufacturing, buying, selling, or using of any drug? Of course not.
Gun-control laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pass any legislation related to guns, ammunition, or magazines? Of course not.
Minimum-wage laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to establish a minimum wage? Of course not.
Foreign aid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to take money from Americans and give it to foreigners and their governments? Of course not.
AMTRAK. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to operate a rail service? Of course not.
Medicare and Medicaid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pay for any American’s health care? Of course not.
Social Security. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have a retirement or disability program? Of course not.
Food stamps. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to feed anyone? Of course not.
Subsidies. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to subsidize art, culture, agriculture, or scientific and medical research? Of course not.
Anti-discrimination laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and prevent or prosecute acts of discrimination? Of course not.
Welfare programs. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to fight poverty, establish a safety net, or give cash to the poor? Of course not.
Organ sales. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate the buying and selling of human organs for transplants? Of course not.
NASA. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to explore outer space? Of course not.
Housing. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to make home loans, give out housing vouchers, or even have a Department of Housing and Urban Development? Of course not.
With respect, is it not the case that the entire existence of the US, including the government, is based on treason? ;)
No. You are correct. The government's existence is not treasonous. Just the people that work there. And it is not all inclusive. The possibility does exist that a government employee does not have their heart set upon our destruction. But the democrats do, for sure. Many Republicans are RINOS and do not have our well being in mind.

But if anyone, of any party, thinks that the present government is authorized in it's participation in any of the above practices, then that person is complicit with the destruction of our country.
your opinion . . the devisive opinion. . . I don't agree that anyone who agrees with any of your list is complicit . . .more facebook follow me
you got issues dude! ...good luck with the Facebook folks...you know that's an In-Q-Tel company right???

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hate to be wrong, don't ya

especiaslly when it is clearly outlined, stated and supported by the real world

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EvanLM wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 5:00 pm hate to be wrong, don't ya

especiaslly when it is clearly outlined, stated and supported by the real world
says the guy demanding evidence but providing none...

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David13 wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 4:56 pm The problem is, that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely,

And more and more, each and every level of them US government becomes, due to the strenuous efforts of those involved with it, becomes more powerful.

Most of the of the phony faced, toothy grinning low life’s that go into it, go into it for one basic reason. To line their pockets.
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I can agree with that an dyou can clearly see th eones that went in to line their pockets . . not Trump . . .hge didn't need to

Daddy Bush starts out with $0 in the CIA . . helps kill JFK gets financially rewarded . . . after that keeps sons in politics to do the same
Hilary came from mafia family . . middle class. . . practice is in patent law or rather stealing patents under the auspices of a lawyer . . . takes bill who is nobody . . gets into politics by running drugs, traficking children, etc. continuesin white house
Pelosi . . mafia family .middle class . . climbs politics and stays forever
Bidens . . nobody but gets in as senator for doing some dirty work . . gets promoted through crime and silence

Obama mom is CIA and so is dad . . well . . those CIA guys just know how tomake money, don't they?
Harris, exception, does come from some wealth generational
Trump general wealth for as many years as the queen

I could go one and name boatloads of politicians and where they are from but ask fred. . . he knows all

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Jason wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 5:02 pm
EvanLM wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 5:00 pm hate to be wrong, don't ya

especiaslly when it is clearly outlined, stated and supported by the real world
says the guy demanding evidence but providing none...
are you bashing or do you really want all the docs? have done it for 2.5 years on this forum with you ignoring it? I just pull up old post with the evidence on it

Guess you just realized that you are wrong about trump, too

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Fred wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:36 am
Robin Hood wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:21 am
Fred wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 11:10 am All of the way down to the local Mayor?

The answer, of course, is yes. Holding politicians accountable is near impossible. But on the local level, we do have the power to kick the bums out. If treason is the willful destruction of our own country, then the death penalty is appropriate. But rather than simply kill them to be replaced by a worse version, let's educate our neighbor voters to oust the pricks. We do this at the local level and climb up instead of attempting to clean from the top down.

One party has extremely minimal mention of the constitution in their platform, and only like to refer to it when they want to discuss process of impeachment for a president who is of the other party... The other party mentions the constitution a number of times in their platform but do they follow it?

Consider these points taken from tenthamandmentcenter.com

Education. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have anything to do with education? Of course not.
The drug war. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate or prohibit the manufacturing, buying, selling, or using of any drug? Of course not.
Gun-control laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pass any legislation related to guns, ammunition, or magazines? Of course not.
Minimum-wage laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to establish a minimum wage? Of course not.
Foreign aid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to take money from Americans and give it to foreigners and their governments? Of course not.
AMTRAK. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to operate a rail service? Of course not.
Medicare and Medicaid. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to pay for any American’s health care? Of course not.
Social Security. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have a retirement or disability program? Of course not.
Food stamps. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to feed anyone? Of course not.
Subsidies. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to subsidize art, culture, agriculture, or scientific and medical research? Of course not.
Anti-discrimination laws. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to have an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) and prevent or prosecute acts of discrimination? Of course not.
Welfare programs. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to fight poverty, establish a safety net, or give cash to the poor? Of course not.
Organ sales. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to regulate the buying and selling of human organs for transplants? Of course not.
NASA. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to explore outer space? Of course not.
Housing. Does the Constitution authorize the federal government to make home loans, give out housing vouchers, or even have a Department of Housing and Urban Development? Of course not.
With respect, is it not the case that the entire existence of the US, including the government, is based on treason? ;)
No. You are correct. The government's existence is not treasonous. Just the people that work there. And it is not all inclusive. The possibility does exist that a government employee does not have their heart set upon our destruction. But the democrats do, for sure. Many Republicans are RINOS and do not have our well being in mind.

But if anyone, of any party, thinks that the present government is authorized in it's participation in any of the above practices, then that person is complicit with the destruction of our country.
My personal feeling is that you can't trust them any farther than you can throw them. And most of those people are way too heavy to throw. 🤨

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dreamtheater76 wrote: September 3rd, 2022, 2:51 pm Joseph F. Smith probably said it best.

“Satan has control now. No matter where you look, he is in control, even in our own land. He is guiding the governments as far as the Lord will permit him. That is why there is so much strife, turmoil, confusion all over the earth. One master mind is governing the nations. It is not the President of the United States… it is not the king or government of England or any other land; it is Satan himself.”

That’s a really old quote. If it was that bad then what is it now? We have a fake president threatening the lives of the American people in a speech he gave at the beginning of the week. We have local elected officials that fully agree with Biden as well as people in our own neighborhoods.
Yeah we are in a lot of crap right now.

If we don’t turn back to God and repent these people are going to destroy all of us.
woa...thanks for that quote, I never knew JFS said anything like that. Gutsy.

as to your last sentence, . As for the country... it's done, cooked well done, stick a fork in it. As for the people, It looks to me like everyone is now divided where they will remain and everyone is going down one way streets. Many streets to different destinations. The good ship L.olly D. S. pop is headed for a mine field and then off a water fall. Dunno where I'm going, but I know where I'm NOT going.

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