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I am making and organizing a list of inalienable and fundamental rights of humanity to better form the basis for a better US Government. So far I've identified the following broad rights as well as their derivatives in no particular order...

Right to Life:
  • Right to Live
  • Right to Bear Arms
  • Right of Self Defense
  • Right to Bodily Autonomy
Right to Liberty:
  • Freedoms of Thought (Including freedoms of belief and religion)
  • Freedoms of Expression (Including the freedom of Speech, the Press, Artistic Expression, etc)
  • Freedoms of of Choice and Agency (including the freedoms of Self-Determination and Pursuit of Happiness)
  • Freedom of Action
  • Freedom from the Interference of others, businesses, and/or government.
  • Freedom from Bondage and Slavery
  • Freedom of Association and Disassociation
  • Freedom of Consent
  • Freedom of Sexual Consent
  • Freedoms of Contract and Oaths — Right to form, change, or dissolve legal contracts and oaths.
  • Right to Information
  • Right to Privacy
  • Right of Parenthood
  • Right of Human Dignity
Right to Property:
  • Right of Land Ownership
  • Right of Bodily Ownership
  • Right to own Personal Possessions
Can anyone think of any other rights that can be added to list, or expound upon them?

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We may exercise our rights only if doing so does not infringe of the rights to other persons.

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lundbaek wrote: January 6th, 2022, 8:56 am We may exercise our rights only if doing so does not infringe of the rights to other persons.
Obviously. But this is where the Grey Men come to play.

Lol So grey....that now spreading a cold virus has blurred the line beyond all recognition in the minds OF MILLIONS. Including... truly yours.

The recognition of natural rights can only last within a moral society. Hence the cleansing. Hence the "setting in order"

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Wait..!?! I thought all rights for us common folk were bequeathed by Nancy Pelosi and her ilk on capital hill... :?

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nightlight wrote: January 6th, 2022, 9:32 am
lundbaek wrote: January 6th, 2022, 8:56 am We may exercise our rights only if doing so does not infringe of the rights to other persons.
Obviously. But this is where the Grey Men come to play.

Lol So grey....that now spreading a cold virus has blurred the line beyond all recognition in the minds OF MILLIONS. Including... truly yours.

The recognition of natural rights can only last within a moral society. Hence the cleansing. Hence the "setting in order"
Stay on topic please. The grey men nonsense is a large tangent to the discussion.

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To be an inalienable right it must be intrinsic.

Healthcare for example, is not intrinsic. It relies upon an healthcare apparatus, and the labour of others.

Also, negative rights = righteous, while positive rights = satanic. I reckon it possible this speaks to an aspect of the premortal 2/3 1/3 schism at the premortal council, positive rights vs negative rights.

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The right to travel.

To walk, ride, drive your own vehicle without a license, tag, or tax.

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Durzan wrote: January 6th, 2022, 10:20 am
nightlight wrote: January 6th, 2022, 9:32 am
lundbaek wrote: January 6th, 2022, 8:56 am We may exercise our rights only if doing so does not infringe of the rights to other persons.
Obviously. But this is where the Grey Men come to play.

Lol So grey....that now spreading a cold virus has blurred the line beyond all recognition in the minds OF MILLIONS. Including... truly yours.

The recognition of natural rights can only last within a moral society. Hence the cleansing. Hence the "setting in order"
Stay on topic please. The grey men nonsense is a large tangent to the discussion.
Thats hilarious

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Umm... being serious now..

I have often wondered about the erosion of true property rights in America.

Back in early settlement land on the frontier was claimed, and became ones property. Without being bequeathed by any government entity.

Wasn’t a problem, as westward expansion revealed abundant land.

At some point in history, the Federal Government claimed remaining open lands, and you had to file a homestead to get it in your name.

Then even that was closed. Now government became stewards of “public land”.

Backup for a minute.

When did the Government get the power to confiscate someone’s land due to unpaid taxes and sell it on the courthouse steps...??


That is the true travesty of losing rights.

It ought to be, if I own ground free and clear. It should be mine forever, and no one should be able to take it away.

Like English Estates to Landed Gentry. It’s theirs in perpetuity.

Now days, land rights only extend for as long as you pay annual taxes to the local/state political apparatus. Fail to pay your allotted taxes, and the resource is taken away and sold to another who will kowtow to the county commission.

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Durzan wrote: January 6th, 2022, 8:51 am I am making and organizing a list of inalienable and fundamental rights of humanity to better form the basis for a better US Government. So far I've identified the following broad rights as well as their derivatives in no particular order...

Right to Life:
[*]Right to Live
[*]Right to Bear Arms
[*]Right of Self Defense
[*]Right to Bodily Autonomy

Right to Liberty:
[*] Freedom of Thought
[*] Freedom of Action
[*] Freedom of Self-Determination and Persuit of Happiness
[*] Freedom from Bondage
[*] Freedom of Association
[*] Freedom of Consent
[*] Freedom of Sexual Consent
[*] Freedoms of Contract and Oaths — Right to form, change, or dissolve legal contracts and oaths.
[*] Freedoms of Belief and Religion
[*] Freedom of Speech
[*] Freedom of the Press
[*] Right to Information
[*] Right to Privacy
[*] Right of Parenthood
[*] Right of Human Dignity

Right to Property:
[*] Right of Land Ownership
[*] Right of Bodily Ownership
[*] Right to own Personal Possessions.

Can anyone think of any other rights that can be added to list, or expound upon them?
Don’t ask Elder Woaks. He’ll say all these things are Silly.

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LIBERTY

THE FREEDOM TO ACT WITHOUT EXTERNAL OR PRIOR RESTRAINT when those actions are not in direct and harmful conflict with the rights of others.

COROLLARY RIGHTS:

A. To be solely RESPONSIBLE for one's own health, life, education and safety.

B. To engage in any ECONOMIC ACTIVITY desired as long as such activity does not involve compulsion upon others or the assistance of an enemy of these fundamental rights.

1. To engage in voluntary CONTRACTS, written or verbal, without restriction or regulation except where direct and harmful non-contractual consequences to others occur;

2. To unrestricted SELECTION and PURCHASE (from a willing seller) of all available goods and services desired,

3. To circulate and negotiate any tangible asset or sworn evidence thereof as money or a MEDIUM OF EXCHANGE as long as it is voluntarily accepted by another and fraud and misrepresentation are not present.

4. To PUBLISH any written, photographic, or electronic material, as long as others are not involuntarily exposed to such material on their own or contractual property.

5. TO STATE ANY OPINION about another person or product without providing proof or evidence as long as such statements are labeled clearly as opinion.

C. To ASSOCIATE with other persons without coercion as long as that association is desired by all parties, does not constitute a direct and harmful threat to another's rights, and where such association is not in violation of the desires of the property owner.

1. Individuals may PEACEFULLY ASSEMBLE in groups without criminal or treasonous intent as long as private property rights and free movement on public property are not infringed or impeded.

D. To DISASSOCIATE with other persons without public reason or justification

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JK4Woods wrote: January 6th, 2022, 11:04 am Umm... being serious now..

I have often wondered about the erosion of true property rights in America.

Back in early settlement land on the frontier was claimed, and became ones property. Without being bequeathed by any government entity.

Wasn’t a problem, as westward expansion revealed abundant land.

At some point in history, the Federal Government claimed remaining open lands, and you had to file a homestead to get it in your name.

Then even that was closed. Now government became stewards of “public land”.

Backup for a minute.

When did the Government get the power to confiscate someone’s land due to unpaid taxes and sell it on the courthouse steps...??


That is the true travesty of losing rights.

It ought to be, if I own ground free and clear. It should be mine forever, and no one should be able to take it away.

Like English Estates to Landed Gentry. It’s theirs in perpetuity.

Now days, land rights only extend for as long as you pay annual taxes to the local/state political apparatus. Fail to pay your allotted taxes, and the resource is taken away and sold to another who will kowtow to the county commission.
Which means that we no longer own the land. We are renting it from the government who can foreclose if we do not pay their set prices, which we do not get to negotiate.

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Sorry, if I missed it, but I would add intellectual property rights to the list.

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Unfortunately, the whole fundamental property rights issue is now more complex and distorted that it ought to be.

http://rangefire.us/2018/07/10/unfinish ... oose-ends/

With respect to property (land), it's true that the way the system has now been twisted around, even when we think we own property (land), we are actually little more than government tenants, who will be kicked off if we don't pay the rent.

And the fundamental right to own property means little if we don't have the right to actually use it, and that right (to use property) has been seriously eroded. https://libertas.org/policy-papers/property-rights.pdf

https://libertas.org/policy-papers/property-rights.pdf
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CuriousThinker wrote: January 7th, 2022, 3:06 pm Sorry, if I missed it, but I would add intellectual property rights to the list.
Generally yes, but many places have extended those rights to seventy years after their death, which is way too long in my view. Fifty was much better.

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right to declare heirs to personal possessions
right to free enterprise without encroachment of government policies
right to peaceful protest
right to defend self in court of law
right to obtain any and all personal information of all types from medical, local and federal government, FBI, CIA, etc

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Let’s go ahead and mention a right to privacy if we haven’t already.

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Seems for us ordinary folks the issues of property owning is a "local" issue. The federal government does not ask us for a deed or to pay taxes. All the property issues of ownership (but for few on federal land) should be dealt with as it is, at local levels. So, are these rights all defined at the top-level? Seems wrong to me, principles ok (like in the constitution) and implementations at local levels where local differences and processes can mediate them. so, top level rights should be in principle and simple.

then comes the "grey" concept, everything is grey when you think about it. Even our basic truths appear more grey than black-and-white, we cannot even agree to who is god or the top-commandments (tithes, Sabbath, etc...) how can we capture completely all rights in enough detail to remove the "grey"? Constitution framers tried, but years of graft have undone much. I see today that main stream claims are that Americans truly want and will vote for a socialist government. Hell today I saw Biden buy 30M votes with socialism just in tuition! Grey gets greyer whey you provide $10,000 to $40,000 per family to get their vote, i.e. Biden signs it, if you take away house and/or senate in Nov, you will have to give it back...............

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radio used to be petty pure news with the exception of PBS. A liberal agenda has taken over the prime hours of 5-6 am. ticksme off . . .but .. .

Biden bought more than votes and this radio news station this morning interviewed a Biden guy who said that Biden did it cause he is just a great person and then he demonized anyone who felt cheated. true nazism

years ago IHC used to have a program for lab techs, nurses, xray techs, etc. IHC would pay for college while the student worked for them part time. after graduation then the student would work for IHC in any facility through a couple of states.

This actually was a very good program and the only flaw is that you might get into a department that had mean supervisors but it lasted only a couple years then you were free to work wherever you wanted.

So Biden is trying to run the same type of program but his agenda is totaly different. His is a bondage program. All of the debt forgiveness will require the debtor to bond themself to the fed government for services. I am SURE that no one is getting legal advice or reading the contract. or maybe, some like the terms of the contract.

No doubt in my mind that a doctor will performing free services to perform abortions, transgender surgery, medicines for transgender, services for people injured by the shot, giving remdesevir and other things that kill others in an emergency situation as well as in clinicc and hospitals. Even if they do not agree with these practices.

Lawyers will work to further cheat the american public by denying rights unless you have the money like Biden's friends to bribe.

Accountants will help IRS and other agencies to frame and illegally take money from everyone that the demon party decides they need to. Monies plundered from the govt by the demons will be hidden and accountants will basically become liars and thiefs for the govt as it exists today. How many new agents does he need?

Social workers, counselors, psychiatrists and others in this field will give unneeded psychotropic drugs, free counseling to gender confused people and removal of children from homes for no cause and then traffick those children.

Others will be in charge of FEMA camps, prisons, etc. and expected to do the bidding of this govt as it exists today. Some will be put in to a military against the citizens of the US.

Teachers will teach sex ed, gender change, pedophilia, etc from K up through college. And, in fact, he just bought out more colleges as if they aren't liberal enough, and will mandate policy. Could turn out to be a laundering scheme, not sure, but possible. Tuition just went up and a lot of the loans belong to students who didn't finish college.

And every other kind of occupation working for the greater good of these satanists will be filled with the mandate to follow orders.

since he is starting with $10,000 there is additional opportunity to forgive more down the road and increase the requirements. There is nothing obvious to support my position and there is no one yet that has even broached this idea on any website that I follow. I am just sure this is one of the ways to put more people into bondage. Hooked on freebies and willing to do it again in 3 months.

This world is full of people who love money and like freebies in every social class. The constant gripe about money on this website shows that we are truly a covetous people. Most crimes that are committed in our society involve money in some way or other. What a sad world. Bondage for the inability to discipline oneself which includes christians as well as others.

time to build zion, a place of safety

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forgot to mention communication, weather, entertainment, media will all be filled with Biden's minions. He will have a constant supply of Jen snarkys and Jean pee your pants people. more lying interviews, too

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EvanLM wrote: August 26th, 2022, 4:58 am time
The purple circle is currently paused pending a new place to proceed.

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BeNotDeceived wrote: August 27th, 2022, 7:13 am
EvanLM wrote: August 26th, 2022, 4:58 am time
The purple circle is currently paused pending a new place to proceed.
explain, please

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scriptures from the time of Zeezrom, and antichrist

Alma 10:3 and the judge received for his wages according to his time
Alma 11:20 Now it was for the sole purpose to get gain, because they received their wages according to their employ, therefore, they did stir up the people to riotings, and all manner of disturbances and wickedness, that they might have more employ, that they might get more money according to the suits that were brought before them, therefore they did stir up the people AGAINST Alma and
Amulek.

POSTER: lots of lawsuits in our day . . .lots and lots . . almost everyone in politics. And Trump, instead of lawsuiting the DOJ, then he put a lawsuit against individuals in the DOJ which has pissed them off royally. He found a judge and his (the judges) acceptance of the indictments was one or two days before the raid. hmmmmm btw I use Trump only for an example . . he was a good king but he didn't clean the swamp so we need to put someone in that will

Alma 11:21. . . .Now Zeezrom was expert in the devices of the devil, that he might destroy that which was good (narrator speaks)
Alma 11:22 . . .behold here are six onties of silver, and all these I give thee if thou will deny the existence of a supreme being (Zeezrom speaks)
Alma 11: 24 . . . thou knowest that there is a God, but thou lovest that lucre more than him (Alma speaks)

I am thinking that the bondage and the taking of a mark began years ago. Our politicians dems and reps are accused of making decisions according to a NWO, a secret combination if you will. we have also been told that many are receiving wages beyond their government pay either by plunder or going along.

we have seen also our media compromised that we used to trust, our businesses that have gone along as well and our technology and police officer, judges, teachers, school districts, social services, BLM, and more that I can't remember at this time.

Our farmers are now being pressured by to plow under their crops for pay and some have done it in the USA.

I think that these people have taken the mark already and I don't know what taking the mark would look like. I think the beast and the Drason exist. We hear all of the time that Zuckerberg, Biden, Pelosi, Harrari, Macron, Trudeau and thousands of others are just "poster boys and girls" and the person behind this has not been revealed. This is worldwide and all on board are trying to destroy everything that is good.

I believe that the beast and the dragon have existed for some time now at least power was given at the time of this covid crap that started 2.5 years ago.

Rev 12:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast and they worshipped the beast
Rev 12:7 . . . and power was given him over all kindreds and tongues and nations. (kindreds is an interesting word in this list)
Rev 13:15 . . . as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed
Rev 18: . . . Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man: and his number is 666.

www=666 cern carries the number 666 wef = 666 corona = 666 patents use the #666 - found in many areas and I think more that I have not mentioned have identified their organization with this number. It is an identity number that satan hijacked out of Rev.

Am I not seeing this in our day and did not the 666 begin to appear years ago?

First of all, I think a lot people have taken the mark and a lot of people in politics, banking, whistleblowers, etc. and have been rewarded greatly with the treasures of this world.

I think a lot of people in politics, banking, whistleblowers, etc have not taken the mark and have been killed in the last 8 years. So, I would conclude that the time spoken of in Rev 13:5 has either come to past or is almost at the end.

I believe that some of the new social media gurus like rogan and bigtree and more, maybe even some of the frontline doctor types are working for the beast to wear us down into a no fear attitude or a fear attitude when the beast and dragon are revealed.

Many of us are being programmed to think tha these doctors and such are all "on it" and they have answers and the answers can save us.

While the politicians and other media continue to pour fear into others while they preach all the time that they will save us.

I think that we have been worked over with programming for years and we don't know that we are playing along with it and helping to spread it. over and over and over is the most successful snare with this programming.

I never understood my pat blessing until 8 years ago and I know why. cuz I would have forced the last days and ran as fast as I could to help it come to pass. I am stating this so you know what kind of a warped mind that these ideas come from. I am however, not axious to see all of the destruction but am looking forward to the great miracles that all of us will experience in this day.

and, I am wondering as things get worse, I would like a timeline and awareness of the enemy and how much more patience I will need to muster up to get through it

time to build zion?

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all based on power and $$$$ except with those who already have that . . . it is based on contracts with satan

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Durzan wrote: January 6th, 2022, 8:51 am I am making and organizing a list of inalienable and fundamental rights of humanity to better form the basis for a better US Government. So far I've identified the following broad rights as well as their derivatives in no particular order...

Right to Life:
[*]Right to Live
[*]Right to Bear Arms
[*]Right of Self Defense
[*]Right to Bodily Autonomy

Right to Liberty:
[*] Freedom of Thought
[*] Freedom of Action
[*] Freedom of Self-Determination and Persuit of Happiness
[*] Freedom from Bondage
[*] Freedom of Association
[*] Freedom of Consent
[*] Freedom of Sexual Consent
[*] Freedoms of Contract and Oaths — Right to form, change, or dissolve legal contracts and oaths.
[*] Freedoms of Belief and Religion
[*] Freedom of Speech
[*] Freedom of the Press
[*] Right to Information
[*] Right to Privacy
[*] Right of Parenthood
[*] Right of Human Dignity

Right to Property:
[*] Right of Land Ownership
[*] Right of Bodily Ownership
[*] Right to own Personal Possessions.

Can anyone think of any other rights that can be added to list, or expound upon them?


This is good!

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