LDS Church Now Reveres the Pope

[p8riot]

https://news-ca.churchofjesuschrist.org ... her-rsquo-

Why are they encouraging members to volunteer, pay attention and revere what the Pope says? Is the church now a subset of the Vatican? Remember how much they sucked up to Pope when they went to see him.

[Original_Intent]

https://news-ca.churchofjesuschrist.org ... her-rsquo-

Why are they encouraging members to volunteer, pay attention and revere what the Pope says? Is the church now a subset of the Vatican? Remember how much they sucked up to Pope when they went to see him.

A feature of the New World Order is a Global Church.

[endlessQuestions]

It certainly feels as though the church is navigating the membership towards accepting some third party leadership. Fascinating.

[The Red Pill]

https://news-ca.churchofjesuschrist.org ... her-rsquo-

Why are they encouraging members to volunteer, pay attention and revere what the Pope says? Is the church now a subset of the Vatican? Remember how much they sucked up to Pope when they went to see him.

A feature of the New World Order is a Global Church.

I read the story....in a word....nauseating!

I agree, there is definitely a merging of churches going on...all brought to you by the UN...

Progressive woke language is used throughout the article. The truth is the pope is a globalist/marxist thug who is all in with agenda 2030....appears Q15 has also drunk the Kool-aid.

[Niemand]

I was raised Protestant. I am happy enough to have RC friends, and oppose discrimination against them, but I never wish to be RC. That church persecuted many of my ancestors - certainly my Huguenot ones. I can't forget that easily.

[HVDC]

I was raised Protestant. I am happy enough to have RC friends, and oppose discrimination against them, but I never wish to be RC. That church persecuted many of my ancestors - certainly my Huguenot ones. I can't forget that easily.

Yup.

Sir H

[FrankOne]

https://news-ca.churchofjesuschrist.org ... her-rsquo-

Why are they encouraging members to volunteer, pay attention and revere what the Pope says? Is the church now a subset of the Vatican? Remember how much they sucked up to Pope when they went to see him.

We have been taught to follow the example of the Prophet.
Therefore, we should address the Pope as RMN did twice on video and in print.

We are to address him as "His Holiness".

Don't argue it. Obey it.

(yah, this is a joke, but it's true) We do live in klown world.

[Hugh Akston]

I have a lot of respect for Catholics, but not for its clergy or the Vatican. This pope is a conscious fraud and world class hypocrite. A truly shameful human who, among other things, teaches that people can be saved without the Christ.

This article is chock full of absurdities:

• Over use of indigenous (capital “I” no less). Does the church teach that these people are native/indigenous or did they come from somewhere else? Science even says they came from elsewhere. They settled and colonized into tribes not unlike those peoples that came later.

• The moral panic over residential school controversy is almost entirely a hoax and fashion. There are no mass graves and the graves that were found are those that were buried according to Indian customs. What’s the allegation? That they were spending enormous resources to feed, clothe and house the students only to what…murder them in mass? It makes zero sense. These schools were designed as charity for kids being raised in absolute poverty, neglect and/or abuse. Catholic schools are known for being overboard on strictness and guilt, but most grads aren’t referred to as “survivors.” They mostly just drop out of being catholics in early adulthood. I will grant that the entire concept of taking these children out of their communities and families was traumatic and culturally insensitive by today’s standards, but again, this was with the intent to help.

• ]The papal visit has nothing to do with the church, but this article labors greatly to grasp any tie in to make it seem otherwise. This is a harmless phenomenon, but I can’t get over how the church frames so many stories and narratives as though the organization or its members are the center or close to whatever’s important. It’s not always about you and not everything relates to you. We all remember the endless publication of the photos of President Nelson meeting the Pope which felt like it was saying “see, we’re right here with His Holiness, two heads of two great global religions, very important and much prestige” RMN is hamming it up for the camera and meanwhile the pope kinda looks disengaged—like a celebrity doing an obligatory selfie with a fan who paid extra for the backstage meet and greet. As the kids say: cringe.

[FrankOne]

I have a lot of respect for Catholics, but not for its clergy or the Vatican. This pope is a conscious fraud and world class hypocrite. A truly shameful human who, among other things, teaches that people can be saved without the Christ.

This article is chock full of absurdities:

• Over use of indigenous (capital “I” no less). Does the church teach that these people are native/indigenous or did they come from somewhere else? Science even says they came from elsewhere. They settled and colonized into tribes not unlike those peoples that came later.

• The moral panic over residential school controversy is almost entirely a hoax and fashion. There are no mass graves and the graves that were found are those that were buried according to Indian customs. What’s the allegation? That they were spending enormous resources to feed, clothe and house the students only to what…murder them in mass? It makes zero sense. These schools were designed as charity for kids being raised in absolute poverty, neglect and/or abuse. Catholic schools are known for being overboard on strictness and guilt, but most grads aren’t referred to as “survivors.” They mostly just drop out of being catholics in early adulthood. I will grant that the entire concept of taking these children out of their communities and families was traumatic and culturally insensitive by today’s standards, but again, this was with the intent to help.

• ]The papal visit has nothing to do with the church, but this article labors greatly to grasp any tie in to make it seem otherwise. This is a harmless phenomenon, but I can’t get over how the church frames so many stories and narratives as though the organization or its members are the center or close to whatever’s important. It’s not always about you and not everything relates to you. We all remember the endless publication of the photos of President Nelson meeting the Pope which felt like it was saying “see, we’re right here with His Holiness, two heads of two great global religions, very important and much prestige” RMN is hamming it up for the camera and meanwhile the pope kinda looks disengaged—like a celebrity doing an obligatory selfie with a fan who paid extra for the backstage meet and greet. As the kids say: cringe.

when the world powers turn against the Church leadership, they will realize they've sold out the church for a sack of silver.

[Niemand]

I have a lot of respect for Catholics, but not for its clergy or the Vatican.

I do not agree with their theology necessarily, but there are a number of RC clergy that I do respect.

Three that spring to mind are Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, Cardinal Raymond Burke, and the priest of a small Irish parish whose name escapes me (I have linked his videos here before). Cardinal Burke is a million miles from me on Marian doctrine and certain other things, but the man is also a fighter for freedom and has pointed out the Antichrist nature of recent events... so he does appear to be on the right side of history.

As for boarding schools, I have little time for them, especially when younger children are put in them. They break down family bonds, sense of place and are a gift to abusers. They often seem to bring out the worst in people who went to them, including the upmarket ones.

[Niemand]

I have a lot of respect for Catholics, but not for its clergy or the Vatican. This pope is a conscious fraud and world class hypocrite. A truly shameful human who, among other things, teaches that people can be saved without the Christ.

This article is chock full of absurdities:

• Over use of indigenous (capital “I” no less). Does the church teach that these people are native/indigenous or did they come from somewhere else? Science even says they came from elsewhere. They settled and colonized into tribes not unlike those peoples that came later.

• The moral panic over residential school controversy is almost entirely a hoax and fashion. There are no mass graves and the graves that were found are those that were buried according to Indian customs. What’s the allegation? That they were spending enormous resources to feed, clothe and house the students only to what…murder them in mass? It makes zero sense. These schools were designed as charity for kids being raised in absolute poverty, neglect and/or abuse. Catholic schools are known for being overboard on strictness and guilt, but most grads aren’t referred to as “survivors.” They mostly just drop out of being catholics in early adulthood. I will grant that the entire concept of taking these children out of their communities and families was traumatic and culturally insensitive by today’s standards, but again, this was with the intent to help.

• ]The papal visit has nothing to do with the church, but this article labors greatly to grasp any tie in to make it seem otherwise. This is a harmless phenomenon, but I can’t get over how the church frames so many stories and narratives as though the organization or its members are the center or close to whatever’s important. It’s not always about you and not everything relates to you. We all remember the endless publication of the photos of President Nelson meeting the Pope which felt like it was saying “see, we’re right here with His Holiness, two heads of two great global religions, very important and much prestige” RMN is hamming it up for the camera and meanwhile the pope kinda looks disengaged—like a celebrity doing an obligatory selfie with a fan who paid extra for the backstage meet and greet. As the kids say: cringe.

when the world powers turn against the Church leadership, they will realize they've sold out the church for a sack of silver.

If Harari succeeds Schwab as head of the WEF, it's going to become a lot more obvious. He is quite open with his contempt for religion.

[Subcomandante]

https://news-ca.churchofjesuschrist.org ... her-rsquo-

Why are they encouraging members to volunteer, pay attention and revere what the Pope says? Is the church now a subset of the Vatican? Remember how much they sucked up to Pope when they went to see him.

We have been taught to follow the example of the Prophet.
Therefore, we should address the Pope as RMN did twice on video and in print.

We are to address him as "His Holiness".

Don't argue it. Obey it.

(yah, this is a joke, but it's true) We do live in klown world.

"His Holiness" is strictly correct protocol. I love how learning correct protocols triggers you guys.

[TwochurchesOnly]

https://news-ca.churchofjesuschrist.org ... her-rsquo-

Why are they encouraging members to volunteer, pay attention and revere what the Pope says? Is the church now a subset of the Vatican? Remember how much they sucked up to Pope when they went to see him.

We have been taught to follow the example of the Prophet.
Therefore, we should address the Pope as RMN did twice on video and in print.

We are to address him as "His Holiness".

Don't argue it. Obey it.

(yah, this is a joke, but it's true) We do live in klown world.

"His Holiness" is strictly correct protocol. I love how learning correct protocols triggers you guys.

Correct Protocol -- is that like proper etiquette ?
Yeah, that triggers me
Then there are the words engraved on all the temples,
Holiness to the Lord.
And the commandment "No other gods before me"
" our Father, who art in Heaven - hallowed be thy name..."

Words have meaning
and consequences - same goes for kissing up and bowing down to idols

[endlessQuestions]

https://news-ca.churchofjesuschrist.org ... her-rsquo-

Why are they encouraging members to volunteer, pay attention and revere what the Pope says? Is the church now a subset of the Vatican? Remember how much they sucked up to Pope when they went to see him.

We have been taught to follow the example of the Prophet.
Therefore, we should address the Pope as RMN did twice on video and in print.

We are to address him as "His Holiness".

Don't argue it. Obey it.

(yah, this is a joke, but it's true) We do live in klown world.

"His Holiness" is strictly correct protocol. I love how learning correct protocols triggers you guys.

Know what else is going to be “strictly correct protocol”? Bowing down to the Antichrist.

Hardy har har. Don’t be triggered, y’all. Just make obeisance to the beast.

[GeeR]

Does anyone know if there is a picture out there somewhere showing Nelson following protocol by kissing the ring of the Pope when they first met?

[Chip]

https://news-ca.churchofjesuschrist.org ... her-rsquo-

Why are they encouraging members to volunteer, pay attention and revere what the Pope says? Is the church now a subset of the Vatican? Remember how much they sucked up to Pope when they went to see him.

We have been taught to follow the example of the Prophet.
Therefore, we should address the Pope as RMN did twice on video and in print.

We are to address him as "His Holiness".

Don't argue it. Obey it.

(yah, this is a joke, but it's true) We do live in klown world.

"His Holiness" is strictly correct protocol. I love how learning correct protocols triggers you guys.

May you continue to delight in pious observance of ALL prescribed protocols.

[762X545]

https://news-ca.churchofjesuschrist.org ... her-rsquo-

Why are they encouraging members to volunteer, pay attention and revere what the Pope says? Is the church now a subset of the Vatican? Remember how much they sucked up to Pope when they went to see him.

We have been taught to follow the example of the Prophet.
Therefore, we should address the Pope as RMN did twice on video and in print.

We are to address him as "His Holiness".

Don't argue it. Obey it.

(yah, this is a joke, but it's true) We do live in klown world.

Seriously? Do you think government leaders address Rusty as "Rusty?" No they call him by his given title regardless of whether they agree with the title. While in the service I had to escort Russian military officials on American bases. Do you think I referred to them as "Comrade A$$hole?" No. I referred to them by their given rank and they did the same to me. It's simple courtesy. Not everything has to be anger and hatred regardless of whether you stand on someone's side or not.

[Chip]

https://news-ca.churchofjesuschrist.org ... her-rsquo-

Why are they encouraging members to volunteer, pay attention and revere what the Pope says? Is the church now a subset of the Vatican? Remember how much they sucked up to Pope when they went to see him.

We have been taught to follow the example of the Prophet.
Therefore, we should address the Pope as RMN did twice on video and in print.

We are to address him as "His Holiness".

Don't argue it. Obey it.

(yah, this is a joke, but it's true) We do live in klown world.

Seriously? Do you think government leaders address Rusty as "Rusty?" No they call him by his given title regardless of whether they agree with the title. While in the service I had to escort Russian military officials on American bases. Do you think I referred to them as "Comrade A$$hole?" No. I referred to them by their given rank and they did the same to me. It's simple courtesy. Not everything has to be anger and hatred regardless of whether you stand on someone's side or not.

I bet if you mentioned the Pope in a Priesthood meeting and referred to him as "His Holiness" twice, the men around you would be peeved. Even though President Nelson spoke that way, they know it's B.S. and wouldn't appreciate you playing along in Priesthood.

[Niemand]

"His Holiness" is strictly correct protocol. I love how learning correct protocols triggers you guys.

Never mind protocol. He is not our leader, we are not part of his church or anything else. This is a religious title.

[FrankOne]

https://news-ca.churchofjesuschrist.org ... her-rsquo-

Why are they encouraging members to volunteer, pay attention and revere what the Pope says? Is the church now a subset of the Vatican? Remember how much they sucked up to Pope when they went to see him.

We have been taught to follow the example of the Prophet.
Therefore, we should address the Pope as RMN did twice on video and in print.

We are to address him as "His Holiness".

Don't argue it. Obey it.

(yah, this is a joke, but it's true) We do live in klown world.

Seriously? Do you think government leaders address Rusty as "Rusty?" No they call him by his given title regardless of whether they agree with the title. While in the service I had to escort Russian military officials on American bases. Do you think I referred to them as "Comrade A$$hole?" No. I referred to them by their given rank and they did the same to me. It's simple courtesy. Not everything has to be anger and hatred regardless of whether you stand on someone's side or not.

hm. Yah, I guess... seriously.

If you find any other church leader anywhere in the world , excluding Catholic affiliations that have called the Pope, "His Holiness", I'll eat my hat and yours as well. His title is The Pope. Catholics call him "His Holiness" because it is their doctrine that he is infallible as well as other doctrines that implies the same idea that he is "Holy". For another Church leader to call him that is heretical. He isn't Holy except to Catholics.

Try and envision Joseph Smith smiling, lavishing praise on the Pope, and calling him "His Holiness". This is what RMN did.

[Subcomandante]

https://news-ca.churchofjesuschrist.org ... her-rsquo-

Why are they encouraging members to volunteer, pay attention and revere what the Pope says? Is the church now a subset of the Vatican? Remember how much they sucked up to Pope when they went to see him.

We have been taught to follow the example of the Prophet.
Therefore, we should address the Pope as RMN did twice on video and in print.

We are to address him as "His Holiness".

Don't argue it. Obey it.

(yah, this is a joke, but it's true) We do live in klown world.

Seriously? Do you think government leaders address Rusty as "Rusty?" No they call him by his given title regardless of whether they agree with the title. While in the service I had to escort Russian military officials on American bases. Do you think I referred to them as "Comrade A$$hole?" No. I referred to them by their given rank and they did the same to me. It's simple courtesy. Not everything has to be anger and hatred regardless of whether you stand on someone's side or not.

hm. Yah, I guess... seriously.

If you find any other church leader anywhere in the world , excluding Catholic affiliations that have called the Pope, "His Holiness", I'll eat my hat and yours as well. His title is The Pope. Catholics call him "His Holiness" because it is their doctrine that he is infallible as well as other doctrines that implies the same idea that he is "Holy". For another Church leader to call him that is heretical. He isn't Holy except to Catholics.

Try and envision Joseph Smith smiling, lavishing praise on the Pope, and calling him "His Holiness". This is what RMN did.

I'll do one better. I'll give you an Islamic scholar.

https://12gf.org/ideals-for-muslim-chri ... fi-kaskas/

[BenMcCrea]

https://news-ca.churchofjesuschrist.org ... her-rsquo-

Why are they encouraging members to volunteer, pay attention and revere what the Pope says? Is the church now a subset of the Vatican? Remember how much they sucked up to Pope when they went to see him.

We have been taught to follow the example of the Prophet.
Therefore, we should address the Pope as RMN did twice on video and in print.

We are to address him as "His Holiness".

Don't argue it. Obey it.

(yah, this is a joke, but it's true) We do live in klown world.

Yeh but only cos that’s his official title. That’s what everyone calls him. It’s like the Queen of our country is called ‘Her Majesty’. You’re told what to call them before you’re allowed to meet them.

[FrankOne]

We have been taught to follow the example of the Prophet.
Therefore, we should address the Pope as RMN did twice on video and in print.

We are to address him as "His Holiness".

Don't argue it. Obey it.

(yah, this is a joke, but it's true) We do live in klown world.

Seriously? Do you think government leaders address Rusty as "Rusty?" No they call him by his given title regardless of whether they agree with the title. While in the service I had to escort Russian military officials on American bases. Do you think I referred to them as "Comrade A$$hole?" No. I referred to them by their given rank and they did the same to me. It's simple courtesy. Not everything has to be anger and hatred regardless of whether you stand on someone's side or not.

hm. Yah, I guess... seriously.

If you find any other church leader anywhere in the world , excluding Catholic affiliations that have called the Pope, "His Holiness", I'll eat my hat and yours as well. His title is The Pope. Catholics call him "His Holiness" because it is their doctrine that he is infallible as well as other doctrines that implies the same idea that he is "Holy". For another Church leader to call him that is heretical. He isn't Holy except to Catholics.

Try and envision Joseph Smith smiling, lavishing praise on the Pope, and calling him "His Holiness". This is what RMN did.

I'll do one better. I'll give you an Islamic scholar.

https://12gf.org/ideals-for-muslim-chri ... fi-kaskas/

I went to the page. He has quite the credentials. I was looking to see if he was a "church leader" which means , at least for me, A Leader of a Church. If I missed it, let me know. I couldn't find anything that stated that. A church leader is someone that has a congregation that meets in a church to worship God. I'm not trying to be evasive and I was already contemplating how I could make a hat for both of us , give one to you, then keep it and then eat it. I was thinking a flour tortilla would do well!

I just can't see a leader of a non-Catholic Church, giving honor to a man as "His Holiness" and still face his congregation afterwards. Yah.. I could be wrong on this and in this day and age, there is likely a modern pastor etc that has been turned...ya know the type... female clergy , transgender worship...

You mentioned anger or hate might be associated with my other post. There isn't any. It is funny how nuts this world has gone. If I was still attached to the LDS church, I might be angry....but I'm just a guy with simple faith.

[FrankOne]

https://news-ca.churchofjesuschrist.org ... her-rsquo-

Why are they encouraging members to volunteer, pay attention and revere what the Pope says? Is the church now a subset of the Vatican? Remember how much they sucked up to Pope when they went to see him.

We have been taught to follow the example of the Prophet.
Therefore, we should address the Pope as RMN did twice on video and in print.

We are to address him as "His Holiness".

Don't argue it. Obey it.

(yah, this is a joke, but it's true) We do live in klown world.

Yeh but only cos that’s his official title. That’s what everyone calls him. It’s like the Queen of our country is called ‘Her Majesty’. You’re told what to call them before you’re allowed to meet them.

hm. So, he does not allow others to call him "Pope Francis". Odd that i see everyone that refers to him calling him that in all the first links that I've read. Some name him as "His Holiness Pope Francis" but it appears that those are links made by Catholics. RMN was not in front of, or even near Francis when he used the term "His Holiness". He could have used the term "Pope Francis" as most everyone uses, but he chose not to. I wonder why...

[BenMcCrea]

https://news-ca.churchofjesuschrist.org ... her-rsquo-

Why are they encouraging members to volunteer, pay attention and revere what the Pope says? Is the church now a subset of the Vatican? Remember how much they sucked up to Pope when they went to see him.

We have been taught to follow the example of the Prophet.
Therefore, we should address the Pope as RMN did twice on video and in print.

We are to address him as "His Holiness".

Don't argue it. Obey it.

(yah, this is a joke, but it's true) We do live in klown world.

Yeh but only cos that’s his official title. That’s what everyone calls him. It’s like the Queen of our country is called ‘Her Majesty’. You’re told what to call them before you’re allowed to meet them.

hm. So, he does not allow others to call him "Pope Francis". Odd that i see everyone that refers to him calling him that in all the first links that I've read. Some name him as "His Holiness Pope Francis" but it appears that those are links made by Catholics. RMN was not in front of, or even near Francis when he used the term "His Holiness". He could have used the term "Pope Francis" as most everyone uses, but he chose not to. I wonder why...

Nah, still not buying it. ‘His Holiness the Pope’ is his official title. Referring to the Pope by his official title doesn’t mean you worship him, are in league with him etc etc.

For instance, I privately refer to his ‘Holiness the Pope’ as ‘King of the Pedos’ - but I would never say that in public. Oh crap, I just have…