Wheat and Tares
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Wheat and Tares
I ran across this and felt the need to share.
It gives one to ponder about Wheat and Tares.
Prophetic
Neal A. Maxwell
“Church members will live in this wheat-and-tares situation until the Millennium. Some real tares even masquerade as wheat, including the few eager individuals who lecture the rest of us about Church doctrines in which they no longer believe. They criticize the use of Church resources to which they no longer contribute. They condescendingly seek to counsel the Brethren whom they no longer sustain. Confrontive, except of themselves, of course, they leave the Church, but they cannot leave the Church alone.”
“Becometh As a Child” — May 1996
It gives one to ponder about Wheat and Tares.
Prophetic
Neal A. Maxwell
“Church members will live in this wheat-and-tares situation until the Millennium. Some real tares even masquerade as wheat, including the few eager individuals who lecture the rest of us about Church doctrines in which they no longer believe. They criticize the use of Church resources to which they no longer contribute. They condescendingly seek to counsel the Brethren whom they no longer sustain. Confrontive, except of themselves, of course, they leave the Church, but they cannot leave the Church alone.”
“Becometh As a Child” — May 1996
- InfoWarrior82
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Re: Wheat and Tares
From a man with no scriptural fruits.
He was a smart man... So I wonder how he was able to justify calling himself a prophet, seer, and revelator while having no fruits of a prophet.
All I see is the pot calling the kettle black. Maybe he was one of the tares all along?
He was a smart man... So I wonder how he was able to justify calling himself a prophet, seer, and revelator while having no fruits of a prophet.
All I see is the pot calling the kettle black. Maybe he was one of the tares all along?
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Re: Wheat and Tares
Um. Elder Maxwell, How about those who haven't left the Church, but disapprove of the uses of our tithing and other income (vax, shopping malls, "stipends" for our "unpaid lay clergy," etc.) or who would love to take issue with dozens--hundreds--of issues and changes that are maddening, absurd or unChristlike?
- Chip
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I am a tare, according to Maxwell, but I want to move on.
I told my wife that if anyone at church asks where I am, just tell them that I am waiting on the Lord.
I told my wife that if anyone at church asks where I am, just tell them that I am waiting on the Lord.
- BuriedTartaria
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He’s entitled to his opinion and that quote applies to me. This is from 96. There was a conservative purge in the LDS church in the 90s
I respect his view that he thinks I’m apostate. I think his claims of titles are blasphemous.
I respect his view that he thinks I’m apostate. I think his claims of titles are blasphemous.
- h_p
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Maybe it's because a lot of these people devoted their entire lives to it and built their families, their livelihoods and even their identities around it. Then they find out it was all for naught. Kind of hard to just drop it all and walk away as if nothing happened.
- Original_Intent
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"Some real tares even masquerade as wheat."
What an empty statement, the entire point of tares is that they look like wheat.
What an empty statement, the entire point of tares is that they look like wheat.
- nightlight
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Re: Wheat and Tares
I was under the impression that Zion will be separated from the tares before the millennium?scottja wrote: ↑August 20th, 2022, 4:48 pm I ran across this and felt the need to share.
It gives one to ponder about Wheat and Tares.
Prophetic
Neal A. Maxwell
“Church members will live in this wheat-and-tares situation until the Millennium. Some real tares even masquerade as wheat, including the few eager individuals who lecture the rest of us about Church doctrines in which they no longer believe. They criticize the use of Church resources to which they no longer contribute. They condescendingly seek to counsel the Brethren whom they no longer sustain. Confrontive, except of themselves, of course, they leave the Church, but they cannot leave the Church alone.”
“Becometh As a Child” — May 1996
- Wolfwoman
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Re: Wheat and Tares
My ministering sister last year in relief society said that I was a tare. She didn't name me specifically, but she was talking about those who didn't want to get the vaccine even after RMN urged us to. What can you do?
- TheDuke
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Re: Wheat and Tares
Does seem to apply to some on LDS FF. Some of these bug me too, not the comments but the hypocrisy. While most truly wish to discuss topics and doctrine, I laugh when non-LDS put down LDS, or non-Americans put down America, or non-tithe payers put down how church uses tithing, etc.... mostly they say they must spread their new truth. Which is same as leaving but not leaving alone.
So, you can either say this is good or bad. PLEASE note I am NOT attempting to take a stand with this comment, but simply to say that is applies very, very directly for good or for bad.
BTW I met him a couple of times and really felt his spirit. He taught many good and truthful things that helped me a lot Also, he is the one who led the reversal to Gileadi's ill intended exing (definitely good fruits IMO for those asking or claiming lack thereof).
So, you can either say this is good or bad. PLEASE note I am NOT attempting to take a stand with this comment, but simply to say that is applies very, very directly for good or for bad.
BTW I met him a couple of times and really felt his spirit. He taught many good and truthful things that helped me a lot Also, he is the one who led the reversal to Gileadi's ill intended exing (definitely good fruits IMO for those asking or claiming lack thereof).
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Re: Wheat and Tares
Original_Intent wrote: ↑August 20th, 2022, 6:52 pm "Some real tares even masquerade as wheat."
What an empty statement, the entire point of tares is that they look like wheat.
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Re: Wheat and Tares
The Tares not only masquerade as Wheat.scottja wrote: ↑August 20th, 2022, 4:48 pm I ran across this and felt the need to share.
It gives one to ponder about Wheat and Tares.
Prophetic
Neal A. Maxwell
“Church members will live in this wheat-and-tares situation until the Millennium. Some real tares even masquerade as wheat, including the few eager individuals who lecture the rest of us about Church doctrines in which they no longer believe. They criticize the use of Church resources to which they no longer contribute. They condescendingly seek to counsel the Brethren whom they no longer sustain. Confrontive, except of themselves, of course, they leave the Church, but they cannot leave the Church alone.”
“Becometh As a Child” — May 1996
They falsely believe they are the Wheat.
And are patiently waiting to be harvested.
Content to sit back and grow.
They point to their vibrant shade of green.
And say.
Are we not beautiful?
Surely the Lord supports our efforts.
Pointing to the stunted Wheat who lack sunlight and nutrients.
They ask.
Why are you not thriving?
Have you some Sin that you are hiding?
Is your Faith weak?
Repent.
And you can be Wheat too.
The Whole World can be Wheat.
Everybody Wheat.
That's Gods plan.
Just believe.
No.
Sir H