Let's pipe salt water from the ocean to the Great Salt Lake

[Fred]

Yup. That is what they are talking about. It's only a few hundred miles through some of the most populated real estate on earth. Should be a piece of cake. Quick, too.

[tribrac]

California is making natural gas illegal. Maybe we can just reverse the Kern River Gas pipeline that runs from Wyoming, through Salt Lake County to LA.

[bbrown]

Putting salt water in the salt lake seems like a bad idea. It is salty because the fresh water stops there. Adding more salt than it naturally should have probably won’t end like they think it will.

[David13]

Well you know, Home Depot was giving away free pipe this week, so all they have to do is go down and get 8 or 900 miles of it, and bingo. As you know, that comes with free installation.
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[gkearney]

How much is it going to cost to pump sea water, which is much more complex than pumping fresh water, over the Sierra Nevada.

There is a similar scheme to refill the Salton Sea in Southern California as well.

[iWriteStuff]

Maybe we should also move some spare glaciers from Antarctica all the way up to the Arctic Ocean to help out those floating polar bears.

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[Fred]

Putting salt water in the salt lake seems like a bad idea. It is salty because the fresh water stops there. Adding more salt than it naturally should have probably won’t end like they think it will.

Apparently, the salt content of the Great Salt Lake is already 5 times more salty than the ocean.

[Sirius]

Or we could repent and as a Nation, turn back to God. Watch things quickly change for the better in every way.

[Fred]

Or we could repent and as a Nation, turn back to God. Watch things quickly change for the better in every way.

I wonder why the Q15 never thought of this. Imagine preaching repentance instead of inclusion and diversity.

Course, they would have to give up their pride parade.

[blitzinstripes]

Or we could repent and as a Nation, turn back to God. Watch things quickly change for the better in every way.

I wonder why the Q15 never thought of this. Imagine preaching repentance instead of inclusion and diversity.

Course, they would have to give up their pride parade.

Preaching repentance is far less profitable. And the "profit" wouldn't like that.

Prosperity gospel sells much better.

That's why they focused so much on the PEF, temple attendance (pay to play), and those "self reliance" classes for starting up a business. Those were "worthy" capital investments designed to pay dividends.

[762X545]

Or divert a portion of the Snake River which always has an excess amount of flow.

[crabman]

Or divert a portion of the Snake River which always has an excess amount of flow.

My thoughts exactly. Pipe from the snake to the bear river and we'd have all the fresh water to refill the great salt lake over time. It's not needed though, as there are wet and dry cycles. Remember the flooding in the 80's?

[sasawest]

Putting salt water in the salt lake seems like a bad idea. It is salty because the fresh water stops there. Adding more salt than it naturally should have probably won’t end like they think it will.

The great salt lake is 5 times saltier than the ocean. While the ocean is of course saltwater I don’t think it will have a drastic effect on the overall health of the lake. If anything it would probably dilute the saltiness since the lake is increasing its salinity the more it’s levels drop.

[EvanLM]

AND. . . how do you propose to fix this?

Officials investigate after fire, explosion at Hoover Dam
Transformer Catches Fire at Hoover Dam
CHRISTOPHER DEVARGAS

Firefighters work the scene after a transformer caught fire on the lower structure of the Hoover Dam Tuesday, July, 19, 2022. The fire was quickly extinguished by the dam fire brigade.

By Gabe Stern, Associated Press/Report for America

Wednesday, July 20, 2022 | 4:57 p.m.

Hoover Dam Fire
Firefighters spray water after a fire on the Arizona side of the Hoover Dam, Tuesday, July 19, 2022, near Boulder City, Nev. Officials say no one was injured when a transformer at Hoover Dam briefly caught fire Tuesday morning.Launch slideshow »
Equipment failure caused a transformer at the Hoover Dam to explode, causing a fire that lasted about a half-hour and sending plumes of black smoke swirling through the air.


Crews quickly extinguished the fire Tuesday morning. Doug Hendrix, public affairs specialist for the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, emphasized that the fire was isolated to the single area, which limited damage to the facility, and that investigators would soon know what caused it.

“We’ve got engineers and some of our senior leadership down there taking a look now, also with some inspectors to see exactly what happened,” Hendrix told KTNV in Las Vegas. Hendrix did not respond Wednesday to emails from The Associated Press.

WHAT IS HOOVER DAM?

Hoover Dam, about 25 miles (40 kilometers) southeast of Las Vegas on the Nevada-Arizona border, is one of the tallest concrete dams in the U.S. at 726 feet (221 meters). It supplies hydroelectric power for about 350,000 homes in Arizona, California and Nevada.

To create hydropower, a renewable energy source, water from the Colorado River flows into the dam, then into a pipe, which spins into a generator that ultimately creates electricity, before it goes into the transformer.

WHAT HAPPENED?

An explosion happened just after 10 a.m. Tuesday on one of the dam's 17 transformers that generate electricity. The explosion caused a thick cloud of black smoke and flames that was caught on camera by visitors but was extinguished by fire crews within a half hour. Officials said equipment within the transformer failed, causing the fire, but they have not yet said what caused the equipment to fail. There were no injuries.

WHERE DOES THE INVESTIGATION STAND?

An investigation into the specifics of what caused the fire is ongoing with no specific timeline for its findings, said Michelle Helms, public affairs officer for the Bureau of Reclamation, in an emailed statement to the AP.

“These investigations take some time,” she said.

IS POWER SUPPLY REDUCED AT THE DAM?

Officials have not said how much power generation was lost.

Hendrix told KTNV the power grid is not affected because the fire was contained to the site of one transformer of 17 total — and remained isolated until fire crews extinguished it.

“All of our protection equipment kicked right in, so it was isolated to that (transformer),” Hendrix told the TV station. “So we were very fortunate.”

WHAT IS A TRANSFORMER?

All power plants have transformers, which are mainly used to increase the voltage of electricity generated to send over transmission lines, said Jordan Kern, an assistant professor of natural resources at North Carolina State University.

“And then once the electricity gets to roughly where it’s going to be consumed, we use another set of transformers to reduce the voltage of the electricity," Kern said, “and then that electricity gets sent out over distribution lines that are insulated and run to people’s houses, businesses, etc.”

Hoover Dam has 17 transformers — nine on its Nevada side and eight on its Arizona side. The fire was extinguished on the fifth Arizona transformer.

HOW RARE IS A POWER PLANT FIRE?

A fire at a power plant is rare, though there's always a risk, Kern said.

“I think most commonly, it’s other electrical equipment," that can cause a fire at a power facility, he said. “It’s not transformers themselves that are causing the fires.”

“But you can imagine there’s just an enormous amount of electrical cable in power plants. And if there are any malfunctioning equipment that ignites a fire, I think that can then spread."

[Fred]

Neither the Arizona side or the Nevada side is using all of the available generators. So it is like losing an extra one. It will make no difference.

[mtmom]

Or divert a portion of the Snake River which always has an excess amount of flow.

Bad idea. Idahoans would get a little cranky if the Snake River was highjacked. Just saying...