LDS Church has Most Valuable Private Real Estate Portfolio in the US, Evidence Suggests

[EvanLM]

The church owns the bulk of Florida's heartland. They have thousands of cattle grazing there right now. Land population cross the world is 40 people per square mile. Still, there are thousands of places where there are 40 square miles with no people. The church has created a money machine. There could be Zion right now if it weren't for the free loaders. There can even be a large number of free loaders. Disabled, crippled, blind, etc. But Los Angeles, Baltimore, and Seattle have shown us a lot of people that have no intention of doing anything productive. Possibly ever. So Satan's democracy get's it's socialist way until every last man, woman, and child, knows for 100% certainty, because of the millions slaughtered as a result, that freedom is the only way that works. Not the chaos of anarchy, but each person realizing that they personally have a responsibility to not be a jack-a$$. Then, it's a walk in the park. The bad people killed each other. The ones that are left are not communists. They will know that the only good democrat is a dead one. It won't be about what I can get for free. It will be the personal satisfaction of knowing that the whole benefits when everyone does their part. Money is an evil god. What would God possibly do with all of the cash in the world? Maybe build a fire.

farm ranch was bought in the 70s . . forested land was bought in 2014

the Lord has rewarded us with cash and ease for many years .. . you, also have been the beneficiary of that cash . . . since you live in a comfortable world . . that's what he does with the cash . . makes your life easy

[EvanLM]

At least 1.7 million acres worth at least $16 billion.


https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2022/04 ... es-widest/

A (probably not complete) list

https://main.d1r5pe9ovkw8w9.amplifyapp.com/

A map:

https://www.truthandtransparency.org/ne ... -suggests/

For those who cannot access the Trib site, some details

"Found in the church’s portfolio — along with the expected meetinghouses and temples — are office towers, shopping centers, residential skyscrapers, cattle ranches and high-mountain timberlands worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

The faith is now Florida’s biggest landowner, controlling well above 2% of its landmass, including an enormous collection of pasturelands outside resort-rich Orlando called Deseret Ranches and a recently acquired expanse of hundreds of thousands of forested acres in the Panhandle"

"Church companies such as Property Reserve, Suburban Land Reserve and Farmland Reserve are sitting on large tracts of developable land in a host of American suburbs. These holdings are heavy in metro regions throughout the rapidly growing South and West — just as the U.S. economy is primed with high demand for new homebuilding.

Even this partial portfolio would make the church — with nearly 7 million members nationally and more than 16.6 million worldwide — the fifth largest private landowner in the U.S., according to The Land Report, which tracks holdings among some of the nation’s wealthiest families."

"Church holdings top $100 million in assessed valuation in at least 15 major urban centers — based on 2019 tax data — and exceed $25 million in at least 66 cities."

"Frequently clustered around Latter-day Saint temples, the portfolio’s most lucrative commercial holdings feature in the country’s top downtown cores."

"The list contains up to $696 million or more in residential lands, vacant spaces and other swaths in America’s suburbs, much of it poised for development. The database details a total of at least 181,000 acres in empty residential lands and vacant farmlands in larger and rapidly growing metro areas, places such as Tulsa, Okla.; Kansas City, Mo.; Lafayette, Ind.; Albany, Ga.; and Modesto, Calif. (where the church just announced plans to build a temple)."

"The database documents farm holdings worth at least $2.3 billion, with notably huge sections of it in Nebraska, rural Montana, Florida, Texas and Utah. Farms, ranches, pastures, orchards and other agricultural lands under church ownership stretch horizon to horizon, with tens of thousands of contiguous acres in many cases."

"Its holdings include acres assessed for use as island resorts, hotels, airports, golf courses, amusement parks, theaters, vineyards, warehouses, truck stations, funeral homes, health clubs, mines and cemeteries. There are even millions of dollars in thousands of tiny odd-shaped parcels and other bits and pieces known as easements."

"Church authorities have consistently said that their for-profit real estate and other business endeavors pay the required taxes.

The vast majority of church properties in the new database are categorized by county assessors for worship, making them tax-exempt.

Add to that a host of other special-purpose properties, dedicated public spaces, vacant areas and other kinds of low-producing acreage, and nearly $8.5 billion total assessed value in the church land portfolio potentially would qualify for lower local property taxes, not including farmlands."

And then this:

"The Tribune found several high-dollar church properties missing from the database, for instance, including some held under other church companies. And this tally excludes huge church landholdings internationally."

"For all the church’s documented U.S. land wealth, scholarly research shows the denomination owns and manages large reserves of land in Britain — of a size rivaling the royal estate — along with massive acreages in Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina and Australia."

misinformation ; the church is the 2nd largest PRIVATE landholder . . . this puts them in a different category than what the article would suggest . . .

[EvanLM]

David O Mckay was pres when cattle ranch was bought . . . decision was made by all church leaders . . .sorry cannot list them

[EvanLM]

oh, cattle ranch was NOT a stake farm . . profit company since the purchase

[EvanLM]

Gotta have land for all those new temples...

or to use as trade like they did on the Martin and Willie historical site . . .which got them as close to the original spot of events as they could . . BLM actually owns the land where the saints were found so many years ago . . .

[EvanLM]

9 million a year in tithing . . .maybe less now . . I think the 9 mil is a year 2000 figure . . . don't know the asset increase per year . . but when they took ownership of the properties and the saints did NOT have to have fund raisers to raise the money for them . . .they took away alot of connection and personal ownership . . I notice that people today talk as if "the church" owns it rather than realizing "we all own it" . . .

my father . . .who was inactive when I was young . . . and never attended the temple . . put in a lot of overtime to contribute to the temples in our area that were built . . and the chapels . . .

my mom spent a lot of time making home decor like embroidered and crocheted towels, etc for the bizarres that would produce funds for the organizations . . we had fund raisers to get camp supplies and worked a lot at the canning center(since I was 16) thus donating much food to bishop's storehouses . . . she was inactive, too

I kinda miss it . . . different feeling and ownership . . . I am proud of my family and my ancestors' contributions . . . and am pretty proud of the churches independence from the government, so far as gaining land and assets. . . just hope there is enough food in store for those who didn't get prepared for the famine

thge most recent acquisition beat out Bill Gates' bid for land in Idaho . . this land purchase would have allowed Gates to keep neighboring farmers from obtaining needed water . . but the church out bid them . . go mormons

[EvanLM]

btw . . .if you are a standing member in this corporation and the leaders get killed or something, then your contribution will still allow you to own the properties . . along with the group . . don't fret . . .it is our inheritance as members of the church . . but, unfortunately, probably will be turned over to Israel . . .

[Reluctant Watchman]

Gotta have land for all those new temples...

or to use as trade like they did on the Martin and Willie historical site . . .which got them as close to the original spot of events as they could . . BLM actually owns the land where the saints were found so many years ago . . .

That's right.. Christ was all about bargaining with Babylon. Dance with the devil.

[Subcomandante]

Gotta have land for all those new temples...

or to use as trade like they did on the Martin and Willie historical site . . .which got them as close to the original spot of events as they could . . BLM actually owns the land where the saints were found so many years ago . . .

That's right.. Christ was all about bargaining with Babylon. Dance with the devil.

He actually did, multiple times. Even calling one of its tax collectors to be a disciple of his...

[Obrien]

John 18:36

[Reluctant Watchman]

Gotta have land for all those new temples...

or to use as trade like they did on the Martin and Willie historical site . . .which got them as close to the original spot of events as they could . . BLM actually owns the land where the saints were found so many years ago . . .

That's right.. Christ was all about bargaining with Babylon. Dance with the devil.

He actually did, multiple times. Even calling one of its tax collectors to be a disciple of his...

And that tax collector had a change of heart. We are literally sucking the teet of babylon right now. I’m baffled how we cannot see the difference today.

[SempiternalHarbinger]

All my life I have shied away from these disturbing and highly unpopular -- even offensive themes [the uses of money]. But I cannot do so any longer, because in my old age I have taken to reading the scriptures and there have had it forced upon my reluctant attention, that from the time of Adam to the present day, Zion has been pitted against Babylon, and the name of the game has always been money -- "power and gain". -Approaching Zion; Hugh Nibley

Money is never going to redeem Zion. We have everything we have needed to redeem Zion for 185 years and all we do is continually regress.

In 1833 the Lord told Joseph Smith "There is even now already in store sufficient, yea, even an abundance, to redeem Zion, and establish her waste places, no more to be thrown down, were the churches, who call themselves after my name, willing to hearken to my voice." D&C 101:75

Two years later the Lord told Joseph Smith, "Behold, I say unto you, were it not for the transgressions of my people, speaking concerning the church and not individuals, they might have been redeemed even now. But behold, they have not learned to be obedient to the things which I required at their hands, but are full of all manner of evil, and do not impart of their substance, as becometh saints, to the poor and afflicted among them;" D&C 105:2-3
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[Artaxerxes]

All my life I have shied away from these disturbing and highly unpopular -- even offensive themes [the uses of money]. But I cannot do so any longer, because in my old age I have taken to reading the scriptures and there have had it forced upon my reluctant attention, that from the time of Adam to the present day, Zion has been pitted against Babylon, and the name of the game has always been money -- "power and gain". -Approaching Zion; Hugh Nibley

Money is never going to redeem Zion. We have everything we have needed to redeem Zion for 185 years and all we do is continually regress.

In 1833 the Lord told Joseph Smith "There is even now already in store sufficient, yea, even an abundance, to redeem Zion, and establish her waste places, no more to be thrown down, were the churches, who call themselves after my name, willing to hearken to my voice." D&C 101:75

Two years later the Lord told Joseph Smith, "Behold, I say unto you, were it not for the transgressions of my people, speaking concerning the church and not individuals, they might have been redeemed even now. But behold, they have not learned to be obedient to the things which I required at their hands, but are full of all manner of evil, and do not impart of their substance, as becometh saints, to the poor and afflicted among them;" D&C 105:2-3
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49 And let there be an agent appointed by the voice of the church, unto the church in Ohio, to receive moneys to purchase lands in Zion.
51 And an epistle and subscription, to be presented unto all the churches to obtain moneys, to be put into the hands of the bishop, of himself or the agent, as seemeth him good or as he shall direct, to purchase lands for an inheritance for the children of God.
52 For, behold, verily I say unto you, the Lord willeth that the disciples and the children of men should open their hearts, even to purchase this whole region of country, as soon as time will permit.

[TwochurchesOnly]

"...and there were no poor among them "

[blitzinstripes]

The scriptures have a tale to tell, for those willing to hear. When the church is wealthy, it is ripe for destruction. This has been the case since the beginning. I would feel much better if the church was destitute, but our faith in the Lord was strong. The massive wealth of the church should sound an alarm in the hearts and minds of the members who know their scriptures.